[01:27] <wrst> cyberanger: kde has had that since 4.5 atleast
[01:28] <cyberanger> wrst: kde has had what since 4.5
[01:28] <wrst> the aero snap like features
[01:29] <wrst> the gnome implementation or unity implementation are a little... off compared to kde or win 7
[01:29] <cyberanger> ah, it's had my lack of attention even longer
[01:30] <wrst> it is a nice feature especially on laptops and single monitor machines
[01:31] <cyberanger> openbox I just keep all maximised
[01:32] <wrst> the maximizing isn't such a big deal but you drag one window to one size it is half the size of your monitor do the same with another window and you autmaticallly have them where you can compare
[01:33] <cyberanger> yeah, but it's rare I need that much comparison
[01:33] <cyberanger> screen and terminator
[01:34] <cyberanger> the things I need compared work with those
[01:35] <wrst> its pretty handy and looks cool :)
[01:36] <cyberanger> windows, looks cool, are you trying to kill me?
[01:37] <wrst> the feature is
[01:50] <cyberanger> woohoohoo
[02:17] <wrst> what's up cyberanger?
[02:20] <cyberanger> I think I've got a better backup going
[02:22] <wrst> cool cyberanger
[02:23] <wrst> how are you doing it?
[02:26] <cyberanger> I got off the boost mobile phone (real nice quick and dirty backup, but slow)
[02:26] <cyberanger> and onto my virgin mobile card
[02:27] <cyberanger> which is a bit tricker to run on ubuntu, and linux in general, but it works
[02:28] <wrst> oh you mean network backup... cooler
[02:28] <cyberanger> yeah, trying to get my systems a little more robust
[02:29] <cyberanger> distribute any point of failure
[02:29] <wrst> hey cyberanger could you highlight me i'm working on something here :)
[02:30] <cyberanger> wrst: remind me, how do I do that, silly cli user here ;-)
[02:31] <wrst> haha it worked
[02:31] <wrst> cyberanger:  you won't like this i'm using a dock :)
[02:31] <cyberanger> wrst: your right, what's a dock, sounds evil
[02:33] <cyberanger> wrst: I don't like it
[02:33] <wrst> ha ha
[02:33] <wrst> using gnome-do docky, i think unity might have been better off to have used it
[02:37] <linuxman410> wrst u here
[02:37] <wrst> hey linuxman410 what's up?
[02:38] <linuxman410> just testing out a netbook i bought and fixed
[02:38] <wrst> cool what is it?
[02:39] <linuxman410> i bought a emachine em250 netbook with 250 gig hard drive and gig of ram and a 1.6 atom processor bought it for 54 dollars with broke screen
[02:40] <cyberanger> wrst: the tricky part is the seem to be overriding my dns servers
[02:40] <linuxman410> just replaced screen for 45
[02:40] <cyberanger> and I've gotta circumvent that
[02:41] <linuxman410> its working good running netbook remix 10.10 and love it
[02:41] <wrst> cool
[02:42] <linuxman410> i have 99 dollars in it
[02:43] <wrst> cool cheap
[02:43] <linuxman410> i could  get 180 for it on ebay easy but i am gonna keep this one
[02:44] <linuxman410> plenty of harddrive space it uses a sata drive
[02:44] <wrst> that's nice with sata you can go large
[02:44] <linuxman410> and ram is upgradable too
[02:46] <cyberanger> linuxman410: cool
[02:47] <linuxman410> oh yeah i like the asus eeepc but not enough storage
[02:48] <cyberanger> wrst: just figured out they're being highly restrictive
[02:49] <cyberanger> not blocking external servers, just the transfer I'm needing to run a dns server behind them
[02:50] <cyberanger> kinda annoying
[02:50] <linuxman410> wrst unity is not that bad
[02:50] <wrst> no linuxman410 its not but its not exaclty love either
[02:51] <linuxman410> it runs real good on netbook
[02:51] <wrst> ok yeah on 10.10 its using mutter still
[02:55] <cyberanger> wrst: actually, they're spoofing any outside dns server, ugh
[02:55] <cyberanger> seems like I'm gonna have to cookup something special for this
[02:55] <cyberanger> (which I have to do for hughesnet anyhow)
[02:57] <wrst> cyberanger: yeah might be able to beat the govt off switch if the enact it
[02:58] <cyberanger> wrst: oh I know I can
[02:58] <cyberanger> the issue is methodology
[02:58] <wrst> ha ha
[03:00] <cyberanger> the borders might get shut down in that senerio too, so head to buffalo and point an antenna to Ontario
[03:00] <cyberanger> use a canadian satellite ISP, or a mexican satellite ISP
[03:01] <cyberanger> maybe upgrade the phone plan for us & canadian long distance, dial in
[03:02] <cyberanger> there's allways an option, and egypt proved it too
[03:02] <cyberanger> al jazerra got the feeds out
[03:03] <linuxman410> use vonage
[03:03] <linuxman410> tether your cell phone
[03:04] <linuxman410> i have done that
[03:04] <cyberanger> tethering your cell phone isn't gonna work
[03:05] <cyberanger> based on places that have done a blackout like the kill switch
[03:05] <cyberanger> best case, the ISP's internel network is still running, utilize it
[03:06] <cyberanger> international PSTN lines were overlooked in similar circumstances
[03:06] <linuxman410> how do you get to them
[03:06] <cyberanger> but cell phone towers were powered down, or disconnected from the network
[03:06] <cyberanger> due to their mobility
[03:07] <wrst> well i don't think anyone should have a kill switch anyway but probalby going to happen
[03:07] <cyberanger> linuxman410: same way you'd place a landline call to canada or mexico
[03:07] <cyberanger> wrst: issues is, we already have it
[03:07] <linuxman410> so find a canadian isp
[03:07] <wrst> yeah
[03:08] <cyberanger> wrst: the issue is implementation, unforutnately, limiting repurcussions
[03:08] <linuxman410> get ready to incur some long distance charges
[03:08] <cyberanger> the means to run any packet switched network is that switch being on
[03:08] <cyberanger> they just want to know how to turn it off
[03:09] <cyberanger> linuxman410: or use a provider like hughesnet
[03:09] <cyberanger> a canadian version of hughesnet
[03:10] <cyberanger> or head to buffalo, with a virginmobile.ca data card, and an antenna for it
[03:10] <cyberanger> I'm already distrubited enough for what'd likely happen now
[03:11] <cyberanger> just upgrading for what I expect their new playbook is
[03:11] <linuxman410> 2.95 for canadian dialup
[03:12] <cyberanger> linuxman410: the issue is if they cut the pstn lines
[03:12] <linuxman410> i can make my winmodem run in ubuntu
[03:12] <cyberanger> or add noise to the line, enough to toy with the modem
[03:13] <cyberanger> thus why I'm going with a satellite option, in the long run
[03:13] <linuxman410> seen  a guy on line who run it through his directtv satellite
[03:14] <cyberanger> but gearing up for a short term method, heading to areas I grew up in NY or PA and using directional systems across the lakes
[03:15] <cyberanger> not paranoia, more of an insurance policy
[03:15] <linuxman410> what about wild blue satelite internet
[03:15] <cyberanger> to implement any kill switch is political sucide
[03:15] <cyberanger> wildblue uses a spotbeam technology, and is US only
[03:16] <cyberanger> making it easy to kill for the majority of the US
[03:16] <cyberanger> actually, for wildblue, the entire us
[03:16] <linuxman410> so it has to be hughes net
[03:16] <cyberanger> no, same flaw in the fact it's a US NOC on the other end
[03:17] <linuxman410> so what do you do
[03:18] <cyberanger> my current plan is to use celluar data card, a canadian card
[03:19] <cyberanger> a directional antenna and head near the border
[03:19] <cyberanger> my long term plan is to use Galaxy Broadband
[03:20] <cyberanger> they're the canadian version of hughesnet
[03:20] <cyberanger> and grab older gear, no spotbeam
[03:20] <cyberanger> thus it can go in the back of a car, with a tripod and setup nearly anywhere
[03:23] <cyberanger> thing is, if they want it down, it's going down
[03:25] <linuxman410> i have a old shortwave and i know morse code
[03:28] <linuxman410> also have a cb radio
[03:28] <cyberanger> linuxman410: ham license?
[03:29] <linuxman410> no license
[03:29] <cyberanger> what's stopping you?
[03:30] <linuxman410> do not know i need to get it
[03:30] <cyberanger> that's gonna be ideal, for a small city like where your at
[03:30] <cyberanger> shortwave too
[03:33] <linuxman410> can order hand held ham radio from hong kong for 45
[03:35] <cyberanger> but using it without a license isn't gonna look good
[03:38] <linuxman410> if it is only way to communicate who cares if it looks good
[03:40] <cyberanger> the guy with mutiple means and a ham license
[03:41] <cyberanger> and you said cb, so you've got mutiple means too
[03:43] <linuxman410> i can take the exam on 3-26-11 in sevier county this year
[03:46] <cyberanger> or sooner elsewhere
[03:51] <linuxman410> going to go see ya later
[04:02] <cyberanger> rip_assley: uh.............
[04:13] <excid3|mbp> :P
[16:16] <vychune> o/