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| charlie-tca | Good morning | 15:32 |
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| mark76 | Morning | 15:35 |
| mr_pouit | hey | 15:36 |
| ochosi | hi charlie-tca | 23:26 |
| charlie-tca | Hello, ochosi | 23:29 |
| charlie-tca | Hey, got a report that a couple of launchers are empty in today's image | 23:29 |
| charlie-tca | browser and something else are missing the actual launcher | 23:29 |
| ochosi | right, i just talked to mr_pouit and he said he's in the process of uploading them | 23:30 |
| ochosi | mr_pouit ^ | 23:30 |
| * charlie-tca too slow, again | 23:30 | |
| ochosi | nvm | 23:30 |
| ochosi | i haven't been able to test the new launchers yet | 23:30 |
| ochosi | but i can quickly do that later | 23:30 |
| charlie-tca | I am downloading the 10.04.2 images to test them | 23:30 |
| ochosi | i just wanted to ask you about the meeting minutes from this week | 23:31 |
| ochosi | nice | 23:31 |
| charlie-tca | I didn't get them posted yet | 23:31 |
| ochosi | k, np | 23:31 |
| charlie-tca | I am behind again | 23:31 |
| ochosi | just wanted to check what my todo-items are to be sure not to miss anything | 23:31 |
| ochosi | iirc the deadline for the UWN article is wednesday, correct? | 23:32 |
| charlie-tca | yes, if you can do it | 23:32 |
| ochosi | i'll try | 23:32 |
| charlie-tca | if not, it is fine to run over | 23:32 |
| ochosi | it'll be a bit hasty for sure, because from tomorrow till wednesday i'll be visiting my parents | 23:32 |
| ochosi | so not really time to write it there i suppose | 23:32 |
| charlie-tca | shoot for the end of the week then | 23:33 |
| mr_pouit | it's already uploaded | 23:33 |
| charlie-tca | Thank you, mr_pouit | 23:33 |
| mr_pouit | but maybe the current elementary icon theme in natty doesn't contain the icons | 23:33 |
| mr_pouit | (I only use trunk from bzr, so I didn't check) | 23:33 |
| ochosi | yeah, same here mr_pouit | 23:34 |
| ochosi | i haven't checked yet | 23:34 |
| ochosi | but i think browser and email icons should be there | 23:34 |
| ochosi | what icon-names did you use in the launchers? | 23:34 |
| ochosi | charlie-tca: ok, thanks, i think until the end of the week it's doable (UWN) | 23:35 |
| charlie-tca | That would be great | 23:35 |
| ochosi | k, i'll quickly reboot to natty and check whether the launchers work and also whether the icons are there... brb | 23:35 |
| ochosi | mr_pouit: i'm afraid it's true, something must've gone wrong, the three launchers are just empty | 23:41 |
| ochosi | mr_pouit: no icon, nothing else | 23:41 |
| mr_pouit | grmpf | 23:42 |
| mr_pouit | I hate that when that happens | 23:42 |
| ochosi | sry :) | 23:42 |
| ochosi | charlie-tca: btw, you said you | 23:42 |
| ochosi | 'd send another email to the ubuntu-art ml? | 23:42 |
| ochosi | is that still the plan? | 23:42 |
| charlie-tca | yes | 23:45 |
| ochosi | ok | 23:45 |
| charlie-tca | to try and get more color into the wallpapers, right? | 23:45 |
| ochosi | yes, i'm in favor of that | 23:45 |
| ochosi | another thought: i think that a darker wallpaper works better with the theme than one as bright as maverick's default | 23:46 |
| ochosi | i've been testing the maverick-wp for a while and then switched back to the one from karmic and it's a lot nicer | 23:46 |
| charlie-tca | I will suggest that, too, then. Let's see if we can get a mix of some kind | 23:46 |
| ochosi | yep | 23:46 |
| mr_pouit | ochosi: beh, I think this is due to the fact that I hide these .desktop from the main menu | 23:47 |
| ochosi | it's a good idea to give them some input now, because somehow after a short period of submissions the "trail has gotten cold" a bit now..… | 23:47 |
| ochosi | mr_pouit: awwh | 23:47 |
| mr_pouit | xfce4-panel queries this menu, and cannot find these desktop files, so the launcher is empty | 23:47 |
| charlie-tca | Yeah, I agree, ochosi. I will try to shake it up again | 23:48 |
| ochosi | mr_pouit: so we have to find a solution to integrate those default launchers in a meaningful way | 23:48 |
| charlie-tca | I seem pretty good at that ;-) | 23:48 |
| ochosi | charlie-tca: yep, go for it ;) | 23:48 |
| mr_pouit | ochosi: yeah ;] (I just tried here on Debian, and they are visible, because I didn't change my menu) | 23:49 |
| ochosi | right | 23:49 |
| ochosi | hm, what do you think about having an entry called "Default Web Browser" and "Default Email Client" in Internet? | 23:50 |
| ochosi | s/Internet/Network | 23:50 |
| charlie-tca | I like that idea | 23:50 |
| ochosi | btw, somehow the category-name Internet might even make more sense to most people than "Network".... | 23:51 |
| ochosi | (even though i'm aware that "internet" isn't correct for what can be in that category) | 23:51 |
| mr_pouit | ochosi: no, they are not called like that, and we can't change their name without breaking translations | 23:51 |
| ochosi | arrr | 23:51 |
| ochosi | so either "Web Browser" (with the "Default") or nothing? | 23:52 |
| mr_pouit | yeah | 23:52 |
| ochosi | not much room for ideas, hu? | 23:52 |
| mr_pouit | that's why I hide them by default, because it's a bit redundant | 23:52 |
| ochosi | we could also create a subcategory/menu of settings called "Default Applications"? | 23:52 |
| ochosi | including a launcher to the default app-settings (that you'd normally call through xfce4-settinsg) | 23:53 |
| ochosi | (i mean "Preferred Applications") | 23:53 |
| mr_pouit | yeah, I think we can | 23:53 |
| ochosi | btw, Preferred Applications is kinda misleading | 23:53 |
| mr_pouit | or we put them back at the top-level menu | 23:53 |
| ochosi | hmyeah, but i don't really like that too much | 23:54 |
| ochosi | feels like a step back | 23:54 |
| charlie-tca | Long as it is not going to screw people up when they change the default app | 23:54 |
| ochosi | i tested it after the last meeting | 23:54 |
| ochosi | charlie-tca: no, those launchers always use whatever is the exo-default | 23:55 |
| ochosi | mr_pouit: i mean i can imagine having default browser and mail-client in the top-lvl-menu, but with file-manager and terminal the list gets a bit long imo…+# | 23:55 |
| * ochosi doesn't like his old keyboard | 23:56 | |
| mark76 | What about using launchers within launchers? | 23:56 |
| ochosi | mark76: what's that? | 23:56 |
| mark76 | You know how when you create a launcher you can add them to a sidebar in the launcher creation window | 23:57 |
| mark76 | Look. Just add a launcher to your panel and you'll see | 23:57 |
| ochosi | mark76: we're talking about the menu | 23:57 |
| mark76 | Oh right | 23:57 |
| ochosi | ;) | 23:57 |
| mark76 | I think the menu should have what's installed in it | 23:58 |
| mr_pouit | ochosi: bwah, even a new category will need new translations (unless we call it like an existing desktop file, e.g. "Preferred Applications", so we can reuse translations from exo)… | 23:58 |
| ochosi | mr_pouit: hm, in terms of consistency we should either stick to "preferred" in both places or switch to "default" instead completely | 23:58 |
| ochosi | using "preferred" in xfce4-settings and "default" in the menu doesn't make any sense | 23:59 |
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