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mkanyicyhow to make an 'expo' keyboard shortcut on kubuntu?00:08
mkanyicyright now I point a mouse to the top left corner for this effect to take place, but i need a keyboard shortcut for it as well00:09
mkanyicyFYI: i am not using compiz, nor ccsm00:09
mkanyicybut kubuntu's default desktop effects (whatever it uses). am using kubuntu lucid00:10
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tortтрям01:05
BajKIs it just me or is 11.04 so much quicker compared to 10.10?01:10
BajKI mean, I am running it in vbox and it is almost quicker and more responsive (with compositing and anything) than my real 10.10 install01:10
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FloridaGuydoes ppa or backports have a newer kernel then the 2.6.35.2601:29
rosco_yCan anyone tell me how to set the icons on the activity bar?01:30
FloridaGuyrosco_y: you want to add icons to panel01:31
rosco_yFloridaGuy: Thank you, not quite.  I am using the "Activities", and for some of them I've (accidentily) been able to associate an icon with an activity--I'd like to do the same for my other activies, but I haven't been able to figure out how to do that.01:32
FloridaGuyrosco_y: dont know...never used it01:34
rosco_yFloridaGuy: Thanks in any case--I appreciate the effort :)01:34
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trudellhi all, hi james03:04
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Jackalopei have a question when i scroll sometimes it looks like my screen is in pieces03:36
Jackalopelike overlaps as well03:36
Jackalopeanyone lol?03:37
lithpri know this is a stupid question, but i cannot either a) configure Auto eth0 or b) make Network Manager use my custom configuration by default.03:57
lithprdarn it, i could have helped Jackalope03:57
trudellhi lith03:58
trudelli cannot understood your question03:59
trudelli use here b alternative04:00
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weecolit is 4:16 here04:16
weecolso good morning from here04:16
weecoluk04:16
weecolseems quiet04:16
lithpr... too quiet.04:18
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mattyit's only about 11 my placepm here and it's dead quiet at04:26
mattymy place04:26
mattydamn trackpad ;)04:26
trudelllithpr, are you pr_ ?04:41
lithprpr_ ?04:42
trudellyeah, you are the brazilian that i talk after?04:42
trudellthat was using nickname pr_?04:43
trudellare you here?04:45
lithprno04:46
lithpri am not pr_04:47
trudellhi matty05:03
mattyhello05:04
mcurranAnyone have any suggestions for me tonight?  I'm getting this error from konqueror (kde3.5) every time I try to mount a removable device in the media section "Error - Konqueror    Connection is closed"?05:12
trudellare you using gutsy ou hardy?05:15
mcurranintrepid05:22
mcurranBT4R205:23
trudellso are you using kde 3.5 from ppa, dont?05:23
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mcurranNo, I'm using backtrack 4 r2 as an hd install, but noone there or online seems to have this same issue.  It's from one of my packages I setup, because this is the second reinstall and it's reoccurring again.  I can mount the removable media manually, but my media section doesn't want to work anymore.  I've checked /etc/fstab and /etc/mtab and they are fine...05:29
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trudellso... try to install kde 3.5 from ppa repository, maybe  solve your problem05:35
trudellkde 3.5 is obsolete in intrepid and before versions05:36
trudellso, have some problems05:36
trudellmaybe the problem are in konqueror compilation05:39
trudellthat not recognize properly the devices mountage archicteture05:40
trudelldevelopers from ppa are developing kde 3.5 for all kubuntu distros05:45
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AciDI don't have any video with dragon player, only sound. Everything works fine in vlc. Anybody experiencing that problem ? (it may be related with the last update of xserver-xorg-video-intel from ppa)06:27
AciDtrying to revert to the pp6 version of that intel server06:36
rajvihello all06:45
rajvia newbie here06:46
rajvii have a story06:46
rajvii m from the country06:46
rajvin i mm the only kid in 100 miles who ses open sorce06:46
rajvion ubuntu 10.10 every apps gets installed but returns an "exit code -1"06:48
rajvihello can i get some assistance06:49
gr8m8you can't get assistance if you don't hang around...07:05
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keeperhi all07:54
fhd_Hi guys, just wanted to tell you that I'm extremely impressed by the state of Kubuntu and KDE in 10.10. I'm definitely here to stay and I'm also planning to get back to KDE hacking, maybe Kubuntu too. Thank you all very much!07:57
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trudellhey ya09:44
MHBhi all10:23
MHBi'm new user for kubuntu10:23
MHBi can not reg to kubuntu form10:24
venttiis it just me or is the kde 4.6 / ubuntu combination as buggy as hell?10:25
venttiserious question10:25
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venttimust be me then :)10:33
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Space_Manventti: just you :)10:45
venttihmmm ...10:45
Space_Manwhat sort of bugs do you have?10:45
venttia number of bugs it seems...10:46
venttinote though - i use kubu 10.10 64 bit on hp laptop with at mob radeon 465010:47
venttiati*10:47
ventti...10:47
venttiexample...10:47
venttiin firefox i cannot r click,and save as an image...10:47
amichairwill LibreOffice be backported to existing releases?10:47
venttiinstead i must view image information and save from there10:47
venttiweird - note this has been documented...10:48
ventti...10:48
venttifurthermore... i cannot install login screen themes without inputting some argy-bargy on cmd line first - again this is documented...10:48
venttii cannot install normal desktop themes10:49
ventti... clicking on URL's here and in chat clients makes Thunderbird instead of browser open...10:49
venttiand a beauty...10:50
venttiediting the KDE kickstart menu is impossible10:50
venttiit just cant be done properly10:50
venttithats it for now.... its been an interesting 48 hrs with Kubuntu for me :)10:50
ventti(ex ubuntu and arch user, btw)10:51
venttithoughts Space_Man ?10:52
yofelventti: I can save as image fine here in firefox11:03
yofelthe kdm bug is indeed known :/11:03
yofelwhat an URL is opened with depends on what you have set in default applications11:04
venttiyofel browser should be default for URL IMO :) not mail client - weird. each time i wanna save image, R-click, save as does not work... i have to view image info box then select 'save as' button in this box - i dont have url to page where this is documented, but its known issue11:06
venttie3diting kde kickstart is a big pain too... see http://www1.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=168495611:07
coder2Hello. Could please someone explain how to paste file into some folder using Dolphin? Looks like it is not possible in list view and the folder has more entries11:07
yofelah, I use firefox 4 here, not sure what 3.6 did there - as for the URL, you're trying to open the URL from a gnome app? That the configuration for kde/gnome applications are seperate is known, and won't probably change soon :/11:07
gjhxsh?11:08
gjhxsh?11:08
gjhxsh?11:08
yofelcoder2: use Edit->Paste11:08
yofelfrom the menu bar11:08
yofelgjhxsh: ?11:09
venttiFF 3.6.13 here - urls opening from xchat and kopete both try to open with thunderbird11:09
coder2yoffel: Thank you. But it is not convenient way.11:09
coder2Another question: How to prevent unwanted dragging of K menu items right after click on them? Turn of animation?11:11
coder2When I click on the "K" menu, and then choose some item before the animation ends the item start dragging11:12
coder2It is very annoying11:12
yofelwell, they're supposed to be draggable, but you can turn off the animation11:13
ventticoder2 i have experienced this as well - makes me think i am going to move the item to the desktop each time :)11:13
venttiit seems very touchy11:13
yofelsystem settings -> desktop effects -> all effects -> sliding popups11:13
coder2yofel: The dragging operation works wtong then.11:13
coder2sorry, wrong11:14
yofelwait, you're clicking on an entry *while* the animation is still running? why?11:15
coder2yofel: because animation is quite long process, an I have computer desktop experience since 198911:19
venttianyway.. will see what (if any) issue arise over the next few days / week - if there's more then i may very well head to another distro...11:20
venttihttp://www.brighthub.com/hubfolio/matthew-casperson/articles/105170.aspx  -comments are interesting, especially those on page 411:20
venttianyway, will see how we go11:20
fhd_Which -dev packages are required to compile plamoids?11:22
coder2yofel: I think that the dragging of menu items should be an option like "Lock widgets". And dragging must not start if mouse cusror is not moving relating the screen coords, not the moving menu  coords11:22
fhd_s/plamoids/plasmoids/11:22
amichairwill LibreOffice be backported to existing releases?11:23
yofel_coder2: true..11:28
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yofelventti: tried kickoff editing - I can reorder application launchers, but it indeed fails when you try to reorder subfolders11:28
venttiyofel as an example i wanted to move the development folder, but no way in hell would it move to where i wanted it - it always ended up under soemthing else11:30
venttidid u see this... (i think you might have logged off)...11:31
ventti<ventti> http://www.brighthub.com/hubfolio/matthew-casperson/articles/105170.aspx  -comments are interesting, especially those on page 411:31
venttiwhat happens yofel if you try to install a logon screen theme? does it work for you as it should?11:32
coder2Next question: How to prevent the "file name" control in the file dialog losing focus whem the mouse cursor leaves its area?11:32
yofelventti: only if you run it with 'kdesudo kcmshell4 kdm'11:33
yofelknown bug11:33
venttiok11:33
venttidespite all that i have mentioned above - it seems stable :)11:33
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venttiworks fine11:34
venttidespite bugginess11:34
ventti:)11:34
Guest77346)11:34
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dagnytaggartGreetings. I am looking for some assistance in writing inputs from the command line. In particular, I can run '"gpg" [Press Enter]. Program then responds with "Enter input", I enter input, then press "Ctrl-D" - program then closes and outputs the result I want to stdout. This is the behavior I am looking for, just without the human input - need to condense it down to one statement entered on the command line. Thoughts?11:47
rorkhow many dagnytaggarts could exist on this planet?11:49
dagnytaggartIt is a literary reference - quite possibly a few.11:52
rorkBased on your reaction at least two indeed :). I thought you might've been an old UT player.11:55
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sanatirindonesia ???12:33
Peace-sanatir: mm12:35
Peace-sanatir: your language?12:35
Peace-indi?12:35
Peace-!indi12:35
Peace-anyway to get the channel you could type12:35
sanatirmy lang indonesia12:36
Peace-     !yourlanguage12:36
Peace-for example for me that  i am italian12:36
Peace-   !it12:36
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)12:36
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c2tarunhow can i format a pen-drive in kubuntu?13:39
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kuvuhi. how do I disable desktop effects via tty? file to edit? thanks for the help13:42
kuvusystemsettingsrc looks cryptic13:44
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yofelc2tarun: partitionmanager should be able to do that13:49
smosehey! is there a way to reset graphics in kde?13:52
mattyyou mean reset X13:53
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smoseyes13:56
smosenvm. i found a way.14:04
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BluesKajHiyas all14:18
mattyhello14:18
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natagot somebody here?14:22
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avihayHi, I have a broken kubuntu 10.04, and I've decided to replace it with a fresh kubuntu 10.10. I've already readyed a usb stick with the installation. I wonder if I could get some help and tips for the installation. some of the issues are: how do I get a list of manually installed packages, so that I can reinstall them, how well will my encripted privet folder fare after the installation? do I start useing grub2? I think it's best if most of my filesystem14:23
avihaywould remain EXT3, especially because of the long time it takes to process the package information.14:23
nataif you wan reinstall u better write down wat software u install before and not suggest using software backup list14:25
natacos some other software make yr system unstable b4 will also reinstall back14:26
Tm_Tavihay: "dpkg --get-selections" is command to obtain the list of installed and uninstalled package14:28
Tm_Ts14:28
natad software backup list i think u can do it at "synaptic/file/generate package download script"14:29
Peace-Tm_T: kdesudo skanlite works14:29
natai din try b4 but hope it can14:29
natahehe14:29
avihayTm_T: I'm looking for a list of packages that I manually installed14:29
Peace-Tm_T: skanlite nope14:29
Peace-Tm_T: which group should i add to my user?14:29
avihayfor example, firefox, wine, ibus14:30
avihayI didn't want to go with the synaptic script path for some reason14:31
avihaythe list in synaptic is far from complete14:33
natabefore reformat, u can try create new user account(select same group to enable view yr encrp. file), everything will be fine14:34
nataat "software source" of synaptic, in tab updates, if u selected "Pre-released update", yr computer may become unstable. i try it b414:37
avihaywell, actually, dpkg --get-selections is very close to what I wanted, thanks Tm_T14:37
avihay<nata> before reformat, u can try...    was aimed for me?14:37
nataya14:38
avihaymy home folder is on a separate partition14:38
yofelfor manually installed packages aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' should be pretty accurate, --get-selections doesn't make a difference between automatically or manually installed.14:39
natahaha, sifu come ad14:40
avihayI rarly use aptitude, and as far as I know apt and aptitude don't keep the same manually/automatically installed database14:40
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nata<avihay>b4 tat i create new acc, and all private file change to group also can "read and write" then move to new acc. then delete old acc. after tat create back 1 new acc with UID and name wat els same as before and all the things move back to tis acc. everything was fine14:44
avihayso you just copied them out of the encrypted file, then copied them back?14:46
BluesKajavihay, both apt and aptitude draw from the same repositories , it'd been reported that aptitude organizes and installs application dependncies better than apt , but afaik there's no proof one is superior to the other14:49
nataalmost means like tat. but u must use 2nd acc to move all yr 1st acc file for safety purpose (note tat u must enable group can read and write yr file whe u at 1st acc)14:50
natau try create 2nd acc test system stable @ not oni decide to do14:50
BluesKaj!u14:52
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nata<avihay>pls ensure yr 3th acc UID must same as yr 1st acc u oni can get back yr encrp. file. all can be done at "system setting/user management"14:56
natatry yr best14:56
natai wan gambling ad14:57
natabye bye14:57
natahehe14:57
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ZenGuymorning people.. I want to know does a kubuntu have a similar system tray access to wifi access points like windows 7 and gnome network manager? I've been using pclinuxos which is different but i've seen some screenshots that have a nice looking wifi access gui15:50
PasNoxNetworkManager plasmoid ?15:50
PasNoxhi all15:50
PasNoxi'm having trouble since i installed kde 4.6 on my kubuntu 10.10 64bits15:51
franzmaximilianhello. again an old problem that i faced a couple of releases ago (but I forgot the solution now).  The menu that should be at the bottom of the screen does not appear when I bring the mouse down there. I think I only need to activate it manually from konsole and set new properties, but i forgot the command i need to activate it.  Pls help15:51
PasNoxxorg seem to leak ( nvidia propriatary drivers ), plasma / kwin is slow and take seconds switching tasks15:51
PasNoxand koepte simply crash / take many seconds to initialize while before it was very quick15:51
ZenGuypasnox have you tried reinstalling the kde 4.6 or trying an all together new profile? I'm not a linux expert15:52
PasNoxno i did not tried a new profile15:53
PasNoxi will try just now15:53
PasNoxbah i have no other user and i tired of creating a new one ... :D15:55
ZenGuyfranzmaximilian: are you refering to the panel or widgets screen?15:56
BluesKajhe left15:57
BluesKajprobly had no panel15:57
marxjohnsonMy girlfriend has an iPod with a load of music from iTunes, what's my best bet for her to manage putting music in her iPod from Kubuntu?15:59
PasNoxamarok15:59
marxjohnsonreally? It didn't seem to react to the iPod. Do I need to turn on anything special?16:00
marxjohnsonhaha ignore that I just found it16:00
fhd_Hi. Which -dev packages do I need to compile Plasma widgets?16:01
PasNoxmarxjohnson: :)16:04
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dolomiteslow day17:08
dolomiteanyone else testing 11.04? looking good17:09
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abimelehsalve17:14
abimelehqualcuno parla italiano spero17:14
Fanfare!it17:17
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)17:17
phoenix_firebrdis it safe to remove nepomuk and virtuoso?17:19
BluesKajphoenix_firebrd, I forgot to ask you yesterday, are you running 64 bit ?17:20
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: no17:21
BluesKajok17:21
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: the new driver from nvidia was buggy, after that i reverted back to the driver in repos17:21
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: flash works in all browsers , except chromium. i found out that it was a bug in chromium17:22
BluesKajphoenix_firebrd, I tried the driver too , it definitey shouldn't be recommended for my grfx card on kubuntu 10.1017:22
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: ya17:23
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: is it safe to remove nepomuk abd virtuoso?17:25
mfraz74Twice today I've had 2 different computers lock up, logging in remotely and running 'top' showed that xorg was at 100%17:25
mfraz74only way I could get the computers working again was to reboot, any ideas of causes?17:25
BluesKajok, phoenix_firebrd good to hear , chromium is ok for regular monitors but not a plasma tv like I use here on the media-server...it's menu and tab fonts aren't adjustable for large scrns , they aren't integrated with kde font settings in application appearance17:26
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: did you try google chrome?17:27
abimelehhi evryone17:27
phoenix_firebrdabimeleh: hi17:27
abimelehsorry for my english17:27
phoenix_firebrdmfraz74: did you see the logs for any error messages17:28
abimelehi spech so so englih17:28
phoenix_firebrdi spech englih too17:28
mfraz74phoenix_firebrd: no, didn't seem to be anything in the Xorg logs, and no error messages17:28
phoenix_firebrdmfraz74: weired17:28
mfraz74phoenix_firebrd: Both computers had Firefox running with some Flash.17:28
BluesKajphoenix_firebrd, yes , I removed nepomuk-virtuoso a while ago17:29
mfraz74Wondering if it had something to do with the new version of flash that was released this week17:29
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: then i will try, hopefully it shouldn't beak my system17:29
phoenix_firebrdmfraz74: ya17:29
BluesKajphoenix_firebrd, no you should be fine17:30
phoenix_firebrdmfraz74: stop the flash plugin and see17:30
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: good17:30
mfraz74phoenix_firebrd: I couldn't as there was no response on the screen and the mouse wouldn't work17:31
phoenix_firebrdmfraz74: whats your processor?17:31
BluesKajmfraz74, and graphics card and driver ?17:32
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antonio__ciao17:35
abimelehciao antonio17:35
abimelehunico italiano qui17:35
abimelehcon mè17:36
antonio__ciao ci sono anche io17:37
abimelehbenvenuto17:37
antonio__grazie17:37
abimelehinstallato da poco?17:37
antonio__ho appena installato konversation17:38
antonio__prima volta17:38
abimelehio la ho su un pc virtuale17:38
abimelehnon richiede grande ram17:38
antonio__io su uno reale, ma non ho capito ancora come funziona17:39
abimelehho windows e kubutu17:39
abimelehtranquillo17:39
antonio__io uguale17:39
abimelehfunzia come windosw17:39
antonio__ma uso solo ubuntu17:39
abimelehallora..come vedisotto ha una specie di start17:39
abimelehcon un ak17:39
abimelehla vedi?17:40
antonio__a si17:40
abimelehquella è la barra degli strumenti come windows17:40
abimelehda li trovi tutto17:40
antonio_si ma funziona solo kubuntu17:40
abimelehlo sò17:40
abimelehti dico che sono simili17:41
abimelehvicino a k17:41
abimelehvedi un disegno di un pc17:41
abimelehpoi altre icone17:41
antonio__no17:41
abimelehcosa vedi?17:41
antonio__delle cartelle simili ad un foglio exel17:41
Pici!it17:41
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abimelehno dentro la chat17:42
abimeleheheh17:42
abimelehquarda fuori dalla finerta della chat17:42
abimeleho la hai ingrandita al max?17:42
abimelehriduci la finestra17:43
antonio__si in alto c'è file ecc..17:43
abimelehecco questa è la chat17:43
abimelehdove leggi file edit17:43
abimelehbookmarks17:43
abimelehsetting17:43
abimelehwindows17:43
abimelehhelp17:44
abimelehsono tutte parti della chat17:44
abimelehcis ei fino a qui?17:44
antonio__si ci sono17:44
abimelehquada alla tua sx17:44
abimelehvedi la k17:44
abimelehfuori dalla finestra della chat?17:45
antonio__no17:45
abimelehriduci ad icona la chat17:45
abimelehsai come si fà'17:45
abimeleh?17:45
abimelehmagari ti trovi spaesato17:46
abimelehsopra edit17:46
abimelehci dovrebbe essere #kubuntu-konversation17:46
abimelehlo vedi?17:47
trudellhi bjak17:47
trudellhi blue17:47
antonio_non c'era17:47
antonio_ora ho cliccato sulla scritta17:47
trudellla garantia soy yo17:48
trudellhi irwell17:49
nataopera cannot detect ibus got who knows how to fix?17:49
trudellwhat is ibus?17:50
trudellsomeone apple bridge?17:50
Irwellhi trudell17:50
nata1 kind of input method17:50
trudellhi irwell17:51
BluesKajnata , ask in  ##opera17:51
nataenglish friend, english. haha17:51
nataibus daemon17:51
trudellsome apple s**t?17:53
nataapple?17:53
Irwelli think trudell means like ipod and iphone17:53
trudellipod, ipad iphone, imac, icarus, ibus17:54
nataoh...me kubuntu 10.10 la, kde 4.617:54
Pici"IBus is an Intelligent Input Bus. It is a new input framework for Linux"17:54
Pici!ibus17:54
ubottuIBus is used to allow multilingual input such as Chinese, Japanese, Korean (CJK), Devanagari and Dravidian characters in !GUI applications - see also: !SCIM. For more info on Ibus see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ibus17:54
natagood man17:54
trudellbus is a asian translator for western people?17:55
natafor eastern people more i think17:56
natadamn opera i fix it before but when upgrade kde 4.6 cannot detect again17:57
BluesKajit's a language input application, not a translotor17:57
BluesKajerr translator17:57
Irwell!test17:57
ubottuFailed!17:57
trudelleastern people cant found a common sense in their languages?17:57
natahaha17:58
trudellwell, multi-language support dont solve the matter?17:58
nataopera dnt knw using wat kind of language cos ibus cannot be detect17:59
natais d samee17:59
trudellso.... nata, why opera? why not firefox?17:59
trudellmy firefox supports strange languages like russian, arabic, and easter asian languages like japanese korean and chinese18:01
nataeasy friend, i using 2 of them. using opera at linux cos it can syn bookmark with opera in windows. i using 2 system18:01
natafirefox no problem18:01
trudellpero, no perro18:02
natai juz wan to fix opera if can18:02
trudellbut.. what's happening?18:03
trudellwassap with your opera. describe18:03
nataopera in kubuntu cannot use ibus input method lo.18:03
trudellare you sure?18:04
nataso opera in kubuntu me oni can using english, other language cannot18:04
natasure lahaha18:04
Riddellnata: it should be able to, we have an ibus-qt module (assuming opera is loading the module and the module is set up right)18:04
trudelli dont hav this problem here18:05
natawait i check it 1st18:05
trudellbut i prefer firefox than opera18:06
trudellopera is slow, without recurses, without fun18:07
trudellwithout good plugins18:07
Peace-trudell: ?18:07
share1midroi is fast18:08
Peace-trudell: opera can use kpart plungs18:08
Peace-...18:08
nataqt-module got install ad, how to setup?18:08
share1wrong! arora is fast18:08
Peace-trudell: slow?18:08
share1http://www.hudieai.com/?fromuid=13680918:08
natahaha, opera become great now18:08
Peace-trudell: i guess you have not tried opera18:08
natafirefox is good in add on18:08
trudellbut firefox have best support to plugins and addons18:08
Peace-trudell: this is what you think18:09
natachrome oni good for multi core processor18:09
trudellwell, a long time i used opera18:09
Peace-trudell: it's your personal point of view18:09
trudellfirefox is 10x faster18:09
Peace-trudell: here it's faster opera.18:09
Peace-\ chromium18:09
trudellyes! do you think different?18:10
Peace-rekonq18:10
Peace-trudell: of course i think different...18:10
Peace-1 opera can use kpart18:10
trudellchromium is poor of recurses18:10
Peace-trudell: this is always your point of view18:10
trudellso... tell us your thoughts18:10
Peace-i think everyone can test browser....18:11
Peace-for example i need only rekonq18:11
trudellyeah, but i prefer firefox18:11
Peace-but with webkitkde i need only konqueror18:11
natacool down friend18:11
trudellyesterday i was talking with blueskaj18:11
natajuz diffrent 1-2 s speed oni18:11
Peace-!offtopic | trudell18:11
ubottutrudell: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!18:11
trudellso... he tell me taht ktorrent is better than azureus18:12
Pici!best18:12
ubottuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.18:12
Peace-!offtopic | trudell18:12
trudellalright18:12
trudelli will stop18:12
natakk18:13
trudell:-P18:13
trudellmy solution for your problem is change to firefox LOL18:13
Peace-nata: what's your problem ?18:14
BluesKajkonqeror is afine browser once it's setup ,. but's so much work and rekonq is hopeless IMO18:14
Peace-BluesKaj: xD18:14
trudellhe said that ibus dont run in his kubuntu18:14
nata<Peace>opera cannot use ibus input method18:14
styrbjorneyes it can18:14
Peace-ibus?18:15
Peace-o dbus?18:15
natagot run in kubuntu, but juz opera cannot detect it18:15
styrbjornehow do you start your x session?  .xsession or .xinitrc18:15
nataibus daemon18:15
trudellmaybe ibus be a apple dbus version18:15
trudell*an18:15
Peace-nata: you need that to do what?18:15
nata<styrbjorne> waoo..techniq base i dnt know le18:16
szikarhi all18:16
natai wan other input sometime not oni in english18:17
antonio_join/ubuntu.it18:17
Peace-!it | antonio_18:17
ubottuantonio_: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)18:17
Peace-nata: what? you need another language in opera?18:18
BluesKajnata , your english either needs improvement or quit using unknown short forms in your text18:18
nataya18:18
natasorry sorry friend. english not very good18:18
Peace-nata: go into #opera18:18
styrbjornenata, did you get my message?18:18
natastybjorne: got. i think is x session...18:20
styrbjornecan you post links in this channel?  http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=19224 is a possible answer to your problem with Opera and Ibus.18:20
natamayb18:21
styrbjornei realize it's a bsd forum, but worth trying.18:21
natapeace, what u means? go into #opera?18:21
trudellquesto canale lol18:22
natak18:22
trudellgrazie, grazie18:22
trudellnatra have you installed libtext for asian languages?18:23
natathanks styrbjorne, i will try it later18:23
trudellinternacional asian fonts18:24
BluesKajnata, it's a chatroom like this one , except it's for opera support18:25
natagot install few libtext18:25
trudellbut he got a problem blueskaj18:27
natanvm la trudell. we stop here18:27
natahehe18:27
BluesKajyeah, maybe the guys at ##opera can help him with his problem, trudell18:28
trudellhttp://jp.linux.com/18:31
trudelli hope blueskaj18:31
trudelli hate opera for these problems18:32
trudellslow, no recurses, few plugins, few addons18:32
BluesKajtrudell, I'm quite sure nata is in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia18:33
trudellkual is a bear?18:36
trudellhttp://zaim.frens.net/projects/firefox/18:38
BluesKajKuala Lumpur is a city in Malaysia18:38
BluesKaj:)18:39
trudellthere they pratice mu-wai-tai?18:39
trudellhttp://www.spreadfirefox.com/node/281218:40
trudellhey bluekaj you had reason, ktorrent is better than azureus18:42
trudellktorrent find more clients, seeders and have a lot of good plugins, dht runs better18:43
trudellazureus is slowest18:43
trudellblueskaj, do you know some good porgram to edonkey client?18:45
BluesKajtrudell, Amule18:46
trudellmy amule is strange, is an svn version18:46
BluesKajI haven't used it in yrs , i prefer torrent sites18:46
trudellyeah, me too18:47
BluesKajno , it should be in the repos18:47
trudellamule is slow, but... have more films18:47
BluesKajit's the connections that are slow not the client18:47
trudellmy amule have a lot of things in fault18:48
BluesKaj!aMule-AdunanzA | trudell18:50
BluesKajaMule-AdunanzA is a peer-to-peer file sharing application, designed to connect to the eDonkey and Kadu networks. It is specifically designed for systems located behind Fastweb NAT network. It has a wide range of features, including many of the original eMule and aMule client,18:50
trudelladunanza? is an african version of emule?18:51
BluesKajdunno18:51
trudellhave an program that runs edonkey and torrent clients in same time?18:52
trudell*any18:52
natain windows got18:54
trudelli use only linux18:55
trudellnata, are you malaysian?18:55
natadnt hv18:55
nataya18:55
natau live in brazil?18:55
trudellsomebody maybe develop it, dont?18:56
trudellya, eating malaysian bananas18:56
trudelllol18:56
natain linux i din saw it b418:56
natahaha. banana where also got la18:57
trudellhehe18:57
natain linux powerful downloader vy few18:58
trudellmaybe in future comes to linux18:58
trudellthe dc++ hub for linux is good, but is a lot different18:59
natahave to depend whos sale computer preinstall system19:00
trudelli cant use dc++ very well19:00
natai cant help u19:01
natahaha19:01
trudelli can connect, talk, make all, but nothing of transfer data19:01
natathen already no point d19:01
natahehe19:02
natad main purpose of small cityzen like us is to download19:02
BluesKaj!dcc19:03
ubottuThere are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. When bitten by this bug ops in #ubuntu remove users so they are no longer targets. To fix it have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit19:03
trudellmaybe these public hub s**ts, dont?19:03
natain linux i still cannot video call. cannot detect my old webcam. no point also19:03
BluesKaj!v4l2 | nata19:04
natawebcam not support it i think19:04
trudellhey blue, send me that music site that you had posted after noon19:05
BluesKajv4l2, nata , check it out19:05
natai wan went out a while, chat later19:05
natak19:05
trudell!v4|219:05
BluesKajno v4l219:06
trudell!v4l219:06
Irwell!bot | trudell19:06
ubottutrudell: Hi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots19:06
trudellubbotu dont know about it19:06
BluesKajlook in kpackagekit or synaptic or ..19:06
BluesKajor muon19:07
trudellmoo on?19:08
trudellmoo on have supercow powers?19:08
BluesKajtrudell, I don't recall posting a music site testerday19:08
trudell:-(19:09
BluesKaj!muon19:09
BluesKajbot is useless today , it's factoid db needs updating19:10
trudellubbotu didnt know moo on?19:10
BluesKajmuom19:10
BluesKajn19:10
BluesKajtrudell, sudo aptitude install muon19:10
trudellis it gud?19:11
yofel!info muon19:11
ubottumuon (source: muon): package manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.2-0ubuntu1 (maverick), package size 139 kB, installed size 952 kB19:11
BluesKajyes it's good19:11
yofelhm, too short - but muon is really nice19:11
trudelli'll try19:12
trudellthese conversations are good, a chance to do experiences with large types of programs19:13
trudellwell guys, i must to go... i will see you later19:15
trudellbye19:16
optimushey guys i have a bluetooth keyboard and mouse they are attached together the mouse works but keyboard doesnt can you please help me fix this?19:43
optimussorry the keyboard and mouse pad are one unit if that makes more sense19:44
basyHi, after last update my kernel crushed with error like: /init error on line 61 '/scripts/functions/' missing...19:46
basyNow i have to boot older kernel :o( How to repair ?19:46
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optimushello anyone here?20:18
optimusi need to find out how to install a newer plasma-desktop on top of 9.04 any ideas20:19
james147optimus: what version do you have?20:19
humanwhan?20:20
optimusim not sure20:20
optimusi upgraded to 10.04 and wish i hadnt20:21
optimusbut i have a remastersys of my previous system20:21
optimusits on kernel 2.6.30-9 if that helps20:21
james147optimus: it wont be easy to get a new version of kde on such an old version of kubuntu20:21
optimusjames147 im in for the trip i have been working on getting this done forever basically i have a dell xps m2010 and the mouse is attached to the keyboard and theyre both bluetooth in karmic the keyboard doesnt work a bug report was filed and developers dropped the idea of fixing it.20:23
humanI still have 7.10 working)20:23
yofeloptimus: do you have an unreleased version of karmic? 2.6.30 was only present in early karmic, and karmic was released with 2.6.31-14. And there aren't any kubuntu KDE backports for anthing older than lucid currently20:23
optimusyofel i had upgraded the system and i had to upgrade my kernel to 2.6.32-29 because grub2 didnt work at all20:24
optimusi have been remastering bt4 to fit my system requirements and it sucks all the way through im just glad i have been remastering my system as i go i have exactly 6 dvds of each step lol20:25
optimusno i have something to fall back on. All i really want is my previous version 9.04 with the newest plasma-desktop i just need to figure out how to get this done i was thinking about loading the old system and then changing out the repos and aptitude install plasma-desktop20:27
optimusso anyone up to help? will my idea work out or just fail miserably20:28
james147optimus: I doupt there is any compiled version for 9.04... you will probally need to compile from source as well as any new dependencies....20:29
optimusjames147 okay so basically i need to download and compile all dependencies and the actual plasma desktop20:30
optimussounds like a party20:30
james147optimus: but even then you will probally encounter allot of problems :p20:32
optimusthis sucks20:35
optimusi cant get my bluetooth keyboard to work in karmic the mouse attached to the keyboard works the keys dont20:36
optimusalright reverting my system back to remastered verison 9.04 talk later guys20:37
harvi_svkhi guys...... have you got working twitter in microbloging widget on plasma desktop? Im running Kubuntu 10.04  - KDE 4.4.520:39
* BluesKaj wonders why ppl fool with bluetooth KBs and mice , bt is so finicky ...the regular wireless kbs and mice wok on all flavours of linux20:43
BluesKajwok=work20:43
droidftwwhats the difference between ubuntu and kubuntu20:45
james147droidftw: ubuntu comes with the gnome desktop enviroment and kubuntu comes with the kde desktop enviroment20:46
droidftwwhich is better to use for a new user20:48
ZenGuywhat os were you using before?20:49
ZenGuydroidftw: try kubuntu and if it's a good fit for you stick with it20:52
droidftwok20:52
venttidroidftw if you are a new user i recommend ubuntu not kubuntu20:52
ZenGuyIf you could I would suggest install both kubuntu and ubuntu and mount the same home directory and from time to time boot into each one to better get a feel for both desktop enviroments20:54
PasNoxEvening20:55
james147ZenGuy: ^^ or install kubuntu-desktop from ubuntu or ubuntu-desktop from kubuntu and switch between them at login20:55
PasNoxi'm experiencing very strange behavior since i upgraded to kde 4.620:55
PasNoxmany application now take many times to do simple task they was doing very quickly before20:55
rosco_yhow can I open the CUPS client software?20:55
ZenGuywhat time is it?20:55
harvi_svkinstall ubuntu and then install KDE enviroment from from repositories. You would have gnome and KDE and you can switch between them to see which one is better for you.20:55
james147PasNox: try creating a new user and see if it better on them20:56
rosco_yZenGuy: :) I've got 3:53p, Eastern Time20:56
PasNoxjames147: it's very boring because i have to reconfigure all software that cause problem20:56
PasNoxjames147: i'm not sure but it seem my problem is related to dbus or akonamid20:56
ZenGuyit 's still the afternoon here too20:57
BluesKajZenGuy, I found that kde was more to my taste both visually and organizationally right from the first time a used Linux ...maybe I'm the exception but was more difficult to navigate in than kde20:57
PasNoxok let try with a new user ...20:57
PasNoxbrb :)20:57
BluesKajgnome was more difficult , that is20:57
rosco_ydoes anyone know how to open the CUPS client software (I think it's browser-based)20:58
BluesKajrosco_y, swat20:58
ZenGuyBluesKaj: gnome was more difficult because it's lack of options made getting what you want done much harder20:58
* james147 thinks swat is for samba20:58
BluesKajjames147, is correct again20:58
BluesKaj:)20:59
rosco_yBluesKaj: swat?20:59
ZenGuyBluesKaj: gnome is esy at some level for users but there comes a point/threshold where it becomes a pain to do what you want .. and kde fils that gap20:59
BluesKajno rosco_y , I'm mistaken20:59
james147rosco_y: try "http://localhost:631"20:59
rosco_yjames147: !! you rule!  thanks!21:00
BluesKajrosco_y, did you look in kmenu/system settings/printer configuration?21:01
ZenGuyis installing a ubuntu desktop enviroment alongside a kubuntu install equally stable as install ubuntu itself?21:02
ZenGuyfor some reason i always got the impression it would be less stable to run things that way21:03
BluesKajZenGuy, it's stable , but there are some probs with gnome's latest offerings , or so I21:04
BluesKajI've seen in the #ubuntu chat21:04
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harvi_svkZenguy: I don't think so, It's stable, I used it 4 week ago21:05
ZenGuyBluesKaj: yeah one reason i've been hessitating to recommend ubuntu to my friedns IRL since 10.4 was the panel rearrangeing icons and stuff... weird bugs like those would trun people off easily21:06
BluesKajnautlilus is becoming a bit decrepit as well , I have to admit I prefer dolphin now altho i do miss konqueror21:07
ZenGuyBluesKaj: nautilus was fine until I tried windows vista/7 explorer whhich has drop-down location menu.. dolphin search also rivals that of windows 7 too21:09
harvi_svkBluesKaj: I haven't got any problems with nautilus but realy I missed konqeror and dolphin too. I think they are better21:10
BluesKajI like W7 ,but it has too much microsoft baggage likw windows live etc21:10
harvi_svkBluesKaj: and some apps you can't uninstall, like IE :(21:11
BluesKajI always think of kde and kubuntu in general as fast and clean.21:11
ZenGuyfirst thing I did when installing windows 7 was disable a lot of features that leaked info.. thumbnail preview, search index, windows network player, sharing, etc21:12
BluesKajI must admit tho that windows media player 12 has finally impressed me ...wish we had something like it in kubuntu.21:14
harvi_svkzenguy: My first thing what I do when I was installing win7 was install antivirus soft. :D21:14
ZenGuyI must admit I have never launch windows media player.. but the new screenshot of IE does looks nice.. I haven;t used my windows 7 install since my laptop hardware messed up last march.. I was to lazy to put the crews back since i had fixed the problem21:15
ZenGuyharvi_svk: thats rule #!21:15
ZenGuy#121:16
harvi_svk...and then install VGA drivers and tons of usefull software21:17
BluesKajVLC is a fine media player , but it doesn't organize media very well in my experience , so i just go to the media I want and launch a plyer from the open with dialog21:17
harvi_svkI saw new VLC on win. and I think it has some media library or something like that21:19
BluesKajeven juk doesn't do too well with some of my ripped stuff ...it came highly recommended . but so far I'm disappointed21:19
AciDHi, using the kde 4.6 ppa, I'm experiencing a video playback problem : I have no video display (only sound) under dragon, kaffeine of smplayer, but video works under vlc. Anybody with the same pb ?21:20
BluesKajfor some reason juk fails to list/include several albums and I can't igure out why21:21
ZenGuybrb21:22
BluesKajAciD, have you installed kubuntu-restricted-extras and added the medibuntu repos to your package manager /sources.list ?21:23
BluesKajand enabled the canonical partner repos21:24
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AciDBluesKaj: yes, it worked flawlessly few days ago21:24
AciDBluesKaj: I just found an interesting thread linking that problem with cairo-dock (http://ubuntu-virginia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1310062)21:25
AciDBluesKaj: too bad the solution (running cairo-dock -c (or killing cairo-dock) doesn't solve my pb..21:25
BluesKajhmm AciD , dunno how to help .is there bug on launchpad?21:27
AntOggHow do I access my "Wallet" and is there a way to keep it from asking me for my password to connect to internet everytime I log in?21:27
AciDBluesKaj: i'm investigating21:28
PasNoxjames147: done (new user), starting a new session was really bad - xorg is now eating 25% cpu and 250mb ram, and bad of all - same problems :/21:30
james147PasNox: hmm.... make sure your fully upto date and dont have any missing packages : "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"21:31
PasNoxjames147: i'm sure i'm uptodate21:32
* james147 suggest running it anyway... it wont hurt21:33
PasNoxdamn21:33
PasNoxalways problems with this distro :'(21:33
PasNoxdone21:33
PasNoxno new packages and still problem21:33
PasNoxnow my computer become slow21:33
PasNoxas a fucking 486 DX221:33
PasNox:'(21:33
james147PasNox: what graphics card do you have/.21:33
PasNoxnvidia 9600se 768mb ddr221:34
PasNox9600GS*21:34
james147PasNox: which drivers are you using?21:34
PasNoxprop21:34
PasNoxlast available21:34
james147PasNox: the nvidia ones?21:34
PasNoxyes21:35
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PasNoxin kontact i use google akonadi for contacts & calendar - it always working fine - but now it s just not work, each time i click on contacts or calendar kontact freeze long long time ( like my kopete bug ) and cpu is eating %21:36
james147PasNox: you could try renaming /etc/X11/xorg.conf to see if the open drivers behave any better21:36
PasNoxi think my problem is not drivers  ( or maybe could be related to xorg leak )21:36
PasNoxbut i have other problems  regarding akonadi / dbus21:37
PasNoxeach thing that try to communicate with dbus / akonadi freeze the desktop for long long minutes21:37
PasNoxnow in process viewer21:37
PasNoxi see many entry process for dbus while when i start the computer there is only 121:38
PasNoxhow do i restart / stop akonadi ?21:38
PasNoxjames147: kde boom :/21:44
james147:(21:44
PasNoxi just restarted kde andi have kopete / kontact auto start21:45
PasNoxthey both freeze21:45
PasNoxnow i need to wait they stop to freeze21:45
PasNoxjames147: what's the state of akonadi google resource ?21:46
PasNoxthey were working fine since long time and now seem to freeze :/21:46
PasNoxsome minutes ago i was still able to get my contacts ( with a very long freeze delay )21:47
PasNoxbut now it does not work at all :/21:47
PasNoxeven kopete is still freezen21:47
rorkPasNox which version are you running?21:47
rorkof kubuntu21:47
PasNox10.10 64bits with kde 4.6.021:48
PasNoxrork:21:48
james147PasNox: not sure, havnt been following it, last I hard though it couldnt sync, but only read21:48
PasNoxfor my part it always read / sync without problems21:48
PasNoxi'im 99.9% sure all my problems are related to dbus and /or akonadi21:49
rorkI tried google resource in kde 4.60 in Natty, calender only and couldn't get it to work either. I still have to check it out21:49
PasNoxi runned kopete in gdb and check back trace21:49
PasNoxit was blocked on21:49
PasNoxq_dbus_reply_and_block() call21:50
PasNoxdamn damn damn, all apps using that does not start ( or zomby )21:50
PasNoxzombie*21:50
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PasNoxok nothing run :/ have to full reboot fuck fuck fuck21:52
PasNoxcya21:52
PasNoxjames147: ok after a fulll reboot problems persists, now kopete / kontact does no longer run, they start byt freeze indefinitly21:57
PasNoxis there a way to force all package on my system to be reinstalled ?22:00
PasNoxor reconfigured22:00
james147PasNox: dpkg-reconfigure22:00
PasNoxjames147: no aware of dbus / akonadi bugs ?22:01
james147PasNox: afraid i am not22:01
PasNoxok22:02
PasNoxlet try reconfigure all ...22:02
PasNoxjames147: which version of kde / distro are u running ?22:04
james147PasNox: kde 4.6 on archlinux22:04
james147^^ though i didnt have any problems with 4.6 on maverick when i was running it22:05
AntOggdoes a kubuntu come with an encryption manager of sorts and if not does anyone have any ideas on a good to install?22:05
macokgpg22:05
AntOgggood one*22:05
macodunno if its installed by default or not, but thats the usual one for kde22:06
AntOggthanks maco :)22:06
PasNoxjames147: well i was not having problems too the first days i installed it22:06
PasNoxbut more i used it more i had problems and now apps does no longer want to run22:07
PasNoxi'm scared22:07
james147hmm... and a clean profile didnt help at all?22:07
PasNoxno22:08
PasNoxit was more bad22:08
lanc_hi22:15
PasNoxjames147: reconfigure all does not help ( and lead to error )22:18
PasNox:(22:18
james147PasNox: ^^ what error?22:18
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PasNoxjames147: dpkg-maintscript-helper: error: couldn't identify the package22:18
james147hmm. anything else?22:19
PasNoxno22:19
james147PasNox: try "sudo apt-get install -f"22:19
PasNoxjames147: http://paste.kde.org/465622:20
PasNoxit seem to go where i think it goes: dbus seem to be THE problem :(22:20
james147PasNox: yeah ^^ dpkg erroring suggests there is a problem with a package somewhere22:21
james147thats probally wahts casusing that error22:21
PasNoxjames147: the command u give does nothing22:21
PasNoxhow could i reinstall dbus ?22:21
james147PasNox: try passing --reinstall with apt-get install22:22
PasNoxok dbus reinstalled22:23
PasNoxask to reboot ... :(22:23
PasNoxcy22:23
PasNoxjames147: i reinstalled dbus, polkit-kde and policykit-desktop-privileges and still have problems :/22:47
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youknowwhoHi, I'm running kubuntu 11.04 alpha 2, and wanted to ask if there's a workaround to be able to install firefox23:19
rorkyouknowwho: maybe ask in #ubuntu+1 it's the official channel for natty23:23
youknowwhorork: ok, thanks!23:25
ventti how the hell do you set your wallpaper to either tile stretch or centre??? using kubu 10.10 64 bit, tnx23:33
StarminnI've tried using KDE on a few occasions right after coming from Windows, but I found it somewhat unintuitive. It's probably just the way my mind works or something, but I was just wondering from those who use it on a regular basis, when compared to GNOME, is there anything that is easier in KDE to accomplish than in GNOME? (Not concerned about harder things, only easier, and I'm not going ot rebuttle so don't worry lol)23:34
ventti3 days now of kde/ubu bugs for me - will be heading to either another kde distro or gnome ubu shortly i think23:34
ventti(ex arch and ubu user btw)23:34
Starminnventti: I haven't touched KDE in a while and I'm only answering because nobody else is, but I believe the option *should* be under the Control Panel->Wallpaper or something. Try right-clicking the desktop and hitting "Desktop settings" and it may be there too? (same program I think)23:36
venttiHi Starminn - if i right click on desktop there is no option for 'desktop Settings' - its not there23:37
venttiOK...23:38
wafahi23:38
venttiit is under 'View Folder Settings'23:38
StarminnI can't even begin to imagine why it's there, but hey, so long as you have it.23:39
wafai am a new user of kubuntu23:39
venttiThanks Starminn - this is just one of many issues with the distro that i have encountered in the last 72 hrs and that others have bene on about over the last few weeks23:40
wafai am trying to install g++ , i had an error message23:40
venttitheres all sorts wrong with it23:40
venttiissues with changing order of kde kickstart menu23:40
venttidesktop effects disabling23:40
wafaany one can help?23:40
venttiinability to set login screen themes without inputting a buncha crap in cmd line first23:41
Starminnventti: Yeah... I find KDE a pain in the you-know-what, personally.... Takes 5 clicks to do something that tajes two in GNOME, but hey, just me.. *shrug*23:41
macoStarminn: then why do you hang out in this channel?23:41
StarminnI came here curious for what's EASIER in KDE but I guess I won't get it23:41
venttibut when its just stiing there its so damn pretty - this is why i like it... note thoough...23:41
ventti..23:41
venttithat kde under oother distros performs a lot better23:41
Starminnmaco: This is why: " I've tried using KDE on a few occasions right after coming from Windows, but I found it somewhat unintuitive. It's probably just the way my mind works or something, but I was just wondering from those who use it on a regular basis, when compared to GNOME, is there anything that is easier in KDE to accomplish than in GNOME? (Not concerned about harder things, only easier, and I'm not going ot rebuttle so don't wor23:41
Starminnmaco: For the record, I've never been tothis channel before, by the way. :)23:42
venttiiits just with Ubuntu - the two are not made for eachother :(23:42
macoStarminn:  it's more about what's impossible in gnome and possible in kde23:42
ventti[END RANT]23:42
Starminnventti: Ah, duly noted. I'll have to try KDE on other distros.23:42
ventti:)23:42
wafahelloooooooooooo23:42
Starminnmaco: Oh, what am I missing out on?23:42
venttiarchlinux, opensuse23:42
venttikde - far less probs than with ubuntu23:43
macoStarminn: well for example in gnome you have two options for mouse focus:  either click-to-focus or focus-follows-mouse.  kde has, in addition to those, focus-under-mouse (so if a new window pops up, it doesnt steal focus) and focus-strictly-under-mouse (if the mouse is over the desktop, the last window it waas over does NOT retain focus)23:44
wafai need helpppppppppppppp23:44
macoStarminn: kmail has the ability to set which folder on the remote imap server to use as trash. evolution does not.23:44
macoStarminn: things like that23:44
macowafa: then ask a question instead of whinging23:44
wafai asked23:45
wafaalready but didn't get any answer23:45
macowafa: no you didnt. all you said is there was an error. you didnt even say what it was23:45
wafain fact23:45
Pici!details23:45
ubottuPlease give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."23:45
wafai installed kubuntu23:45
wafabut when i tried to install g++ or java23:46
Starminnmaco: Ah, I use Thunderbird anyway. So basically the others are about windows stealing focus, sounds handy, alright.  What else?23:46
wafai had an error message23:46
macowafa: tell us the message23:46
macoStarminn: its just all that kind of stuff.... gnome removes features and options with each release. kde adds them23:46
wafaE:impossible to find the package g23:47
wafahere's the command i used23:47
wafasudo apt-get install g++23:48
wafaand got the same answer when i tried to install sun-java623:49
wafasudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk sun-java6-jre23:49
wafathis is the command i used23:49
Daskreechventti: huh?23:49
maco!info sun-java6-jre23:50
ubottuPackage sun-java6-jre does not exist in maverick23:50
macowafa: well that answers that23:50
venttiDaskreech huh? what?23:50
wafahow can i install it then23:50
DaskreechYou can't set the login screen unless you change the command line?>23:50
maco!find openjdk23:50
ubottuFound: openjdk-6-dbg, openjdk-6-demo, openjdk-6-doc, openjdk-6-jdk, openjdk-6-jre23:50
macowafa: use those ^23:50
macoand g++ isn't a package name23:51
macothe package is gcc23:51
maco(gcc != "gnu c compiler" nowadays, it's "gnu compiler collection")23:51
wafabut g++ shld be in the package as well isn't it23:51
wafai have already gcc23:51
macobut the package *name* is gcc23:51
macowell then you should be good to go23:52
wafabut i need to install g++23:52
wafaso wht  shall i do then23:52
macohrmmm wait it does seem there's one named that23:52
macodid you just install today?23:52
macodid you run "sudo apt-get update" yet?23:53
wafayes23:53
Daskreechventti: ^^^23:53
macowafa: the second question?23:54
wafait's regarding java23:54
wafau know maco23:54
macono, answer my second question23:54
wafano i ddnt23:54
wafaok i do it right now and i tell u23:55
macoit wont know what packages exist until you run that23:55
venttiDaskreech dunno what you are asking me man.you want me to repeat what i said? elaborate on something specific?...23:55
ventti...23:55
maco(or wait a day, since its run automatically to check for updates)23:55
venttiall i was saying is that kubu 10.10 is very buggy- at least it is for me23:55
Daskreechventti: yes you said that you cannot change login screen without changing the command line I think. what's that about?23:56
wafait doesn't work23:57
venttiif i go to add a new login screen theme, it fails any time - this can only be done if a tweak is applied via cmd line first... this in fact is a documented bug - will try and find URL23:57
DaskreechReally?23:57
macowafa: sudo apt-get update didnt work?23:57
macowafa: the command failed?23:57
Daskreechhmm I changed mine pretty easily23:57
wafano23:58
venttiDaskreech - ok - maybe its more than just the distro... perhaps issue with h/w too - am using hp laptop ati mobility radeon hd 465023:59
wafayou know the i think that there something wrong in the configuration23:59
venttidunno... but anyway, i have seen this issue discussed elsewhe23:59
DaskreechAh I'm using a aTI X..umm 1300 i think23:59

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