[01:21] <yofel> lithpr: I think everything in kubuntu-ppa/backports is already in natty - so there's no point in adding the PPA
[01:21] <lithpr> okay, thanks yofel
[02:45] <psusi> anyone interested in helping test some ureadahead boot speed improvements?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1686699
[11:18] <twager> !nvidia
[11:21] <bullgard> !teamviewer | bullgard
[11:22] <eruditehermit> hey, is there a maverick ppa for gnome 3 that is up to date?
[11:22] <bullgard> Will Natty provide a teamviewer package?
[11:22] <Daekdroom> eruditehermit, not even the natty ppa for GNOME Shell is up-to-date.
[11:22] <Daekdroom> and a gnome 3 ppa for maverick would create such a breakage because of GTK+2 and GTK+3
[11:23] <Daekdroom> !info teamviewer
[11:24] <eruditehermit> also on a related note, does ubuntu have a ATI catalyst driver that works with natty?
[11:24] <eruditehermit> thanks for the response Daekdroom btw
[11:24] <Daekdroom> eruditehermit, the catalyst driver is currently broken
[11:24] <eruditehermit> =(
[11:25] <eruditehermit> Daekdroom, any experience with r600g?
[11:25] <Daekdroom> but the opensource one works with all cards up to HD5xxx, with 3D accel and all.
[11:25] <Daekdroom> r600g is alright. I'm using it.
[11:25] <eruditehermit> Daekdroom, how is flash with it
[11:25] <Daekdroom> But you have to enable it in xorg.conf, because it uses r600c by default.
[11:25] <eruditehermit> is r600g a lot better than r600c?
[11:26] <Daekdroom> Faster, less stable too.
[11:26] <eruditehermit> =(
[11:26] <eruditehermit> what kind of performance benefit is there?
[11:26] <eruditehermit> % wise
[11:26] <Daekdroom> I have no idea, really.
[11:26] <eruditehermit> are you able to play 1080p videos?
[11:27] <eruditehermit> and flash videos?
[11:27] <Daekdroom> As far as I know, flash videos are done on the CPU side.
[11:28] <eruditehermit> Daekdroom, with some cards with capable drivers some of it is GPU accelerated
[11:28] <Daekdroom> eruditehermit, the open source driver isn't capable.
[11:28] <eruditehermit> ah
[11:28]  * eruditehermit hates flash
[11:34] <bullgard> Daekdroom: Thank you for your help.
[11:35] <eruditehermit> Daekdroom, thanks for answering all my questions =)
[12:04] <eruditehermit> Daekdroom, any chance i could ask you a favour?
[12:04] <eruditehermit> Daekdroom, would you be willing to post your xorg.conf to pastebin?
[12:05] <eruditehermit> 2.6.38 is incredible with r600c alone
[12:05] <eruditehermit> can play 1080p vidoes flawlessly and flash 1080p
[12:23] <twager> !nvidia
[12:35] <yofel> twager: no, there is no working nvidia driver for natty currently, nowhere
[12:41] <twager> yofel: Seems ok in Kubuntu ?
[12:45] <yofel> well, nouveau will work fine in some cases, but the proprietary driver is broken
[12:47] <twager> Nouveau will not work for me..
[12:49] <yofel> what's te
[12:49] <yofel> *what's the problem?
[13:05] <Guest13519> anyone else has the problem, that the interface crashs when banshee will start
[13:16] <lenios> Guest13519, go to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/ and search for it
[13:17] <lenios> if it's not reported, it would be interesting to fill a report
[15:37] <Pici> Bleh.  I'm still trying to debug my weird terminal input issue.
[15:38] <penguin42> Pici: What happens?
[15:38] <Pici> penguin42: Input just seems to go ignored.  I'm not sure if its a problem with gnome-terminal, or with ssh though.
[15:38] <penguin42> odd
[15:39] <Pici> When it happens next, I'll throw strace at both processes and see if either is seeing input.
[15:41] <penguin42> so this is an ssh running in a gnome-terminal ?
[15:41] <Pici> Yeah.
[15:42] <penguin42> could be a focus problem? Does the cursor in the terminal change to solid to show it has the focus?
[15:42] <Pici> I just got it.. but I saw a definite change in ssh traffic when it happened, so I think it may be a network or ssh issue now.
[17:07] <graingert> ns idnentify volvocar
[17:07] <graingert> ffs
[17:09] <graingert> gah
[17:09] <graingert> okay
[17:20] <gpc> graingert: hehe :)
[17:25] <Pici> Looks like there are some ssh regressions in natty, I'm still having trouble pinpointing where my issue is, so I'm hoping that whatever fixes those fix my issue too.
[18:05] <share1> 11.10  http://www.hudieai.com/?fromuid=136809
[18:28] <edgy> Hi, I installed natty kubuntu but before it gives kdm screen it hangs! what's wrong?
[18:31] <edgy> any workaround so I can try the system?
[18:39] <qzio> is it just me or does the menubar for gnome-terminals always come back when I start a new terminal window?
[18:40] <Daekdroom> qzio, someone yesterday was asking about that.
[18:40] <Daekdroom> I think it was Pici
[19:05] <Pici> qzio: bug 717332
[19:37] <penguin42> yeh I duped it with an other one
[20:28] <Machtin> so.. let's say i can startx as root, but if i do it as my user, everything's just black.
[20:29] <Machtin> it seems everything works fine (because when i switch windows, the borders of the applications are shown) except displaying it.
[20:29] <Machtin> it's just a black screen with the mouse on it.. and the borders when i alt+tab. (KDE)
[20:29] <Machtin> what could that be? :)
[21:01] <Machtin> this place used to be more crowded :o
[21:16] <dupondje> Can somebody surf to http://support.mozilla.com/pa-IN/questions/682192 ?
[21:16] <dupondje> it crashes firefox directly here :s
[21:16] <yofel> works here, but I use the ff4 daily builds
[21:17] <robin0800> works in chrome
[21:18] <Machtin> works in opera
[21:18] <Volkodav> works in ff4 beta11
[21:18] <Machtin> and whatever firefox is the actual one in 11.04
[21:18] <dupondje> strange :s
[21:19] <Machtin> i hate to have to be logged in as root. :|
[21:20] <guntbert> Machtin: what compels you?
[21:20] <Machtin> the problem with the black screen when i log onto as my user.
[21:21] <dupondje> Got a feeling that my profile is a bit corrupt :(
[21:21] <Machtin> (i posted the problem here 50 minutes ago)
[21:21] <guntbert> Machtin: just for testing: create another user,...
[21:21] <robin0800> Machtin, Create a new user then
[21:21] <Machtin> hum, word.
[21:21] <Machtin> just a sec. :)
[21:23] <Machtin> didn't work. :|
[21:23] <dupondje> $ firefox --help
[21:23] <dupondje> /usr/lib/firefox-4.0b11/firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libxul.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[21:23] <dupondje> euh ?
[21:24] <dupondje> anyone else got this ?
[21:24] <Daekdroom> dupondje, I do
[21:24] <Machtin> yup, me too.
[21:26] <dupondje> woow
[21:26] <dupondje> ###!!! ABORT: X_GLXVendorPrivateWithReply: BadLength (poly request too large or internal Xlib length error): file /build/buildd/firefox-4.0~b11+build3+nobinonly/build-tree/mozilla/toolkit/xre/nsX11ErrorHandler.cpp, line 190
[21:26] <dupondje> :P
[21:28] <Machtin> hm.. that's just too odd for me. :/
[21:28] <dupondje> ok
[21:28] <dupondje> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/clutter-1.0/+bug/714280
[21:30] <Machtin> guntbert, robin0800: any other idea on that?
[21:33] <robin0800> Machtin, you would have to tell us your system, graphic card, drivers and how long you've had the problem
[21:34] <Machtin> since today, i7-920(cpu), nvidia gtx 260 (nouveau)
[21:35] <Machtin> robin0800: if I'm missing anything relevant, please ask :)
[21:37] <robin0800> Machtin, pretty sure you can't change the driver as the proprietary one won't work with the new Xserver
[21:38] <Machtin> yup, if i try to install nvidia-current it tries to remove X ;)
[21:39] <scott__> Hey everyone.  I was wondering if the global menu in 11.04 will support Firefox, Thunderbird, and OO.o/Libreoffice?
[21:40] <robin0800> Machtin, google search your problem
[21:40] <Machtin> uh, i did. what did you find?
[21:41] <robin0800> scott__,  Firefox, Thunderbird, and OO.o/Libreoffice? have to be changed to work with it I think
[21:41] <dupondje> scott__: I saw a package firefox-globalmenu ..
[21:41] <scott__> they use a different toolkit than GTK+ apps right?
[21:41] <Machtin> I try to find stuff on the web before annoying people.. though I admit that I'm not the most professional googler. :/
[21:48] <robin0800> Machtin, can't find much myself
[21:48] <Machtin> ah, ok.
[21:49] <Machtin> hm, wait.
[21:49] <Machtin> Might it have something to do with upstart/plymouth? I have to cancel it because my crypt-disk-loading doesn't really work.
[21:50] <robin0800> Machtin, where its happened before the advise is always to change driver but no good this time
[21:51] <Machtin> isn't there some basic driver?
[21:51] <Machtin> like vesa?
[22:25] <Machtin> well.. i'll continue tomorrow.
[22:25] <Machtin> see you around, and thanks!
[22:51] <BUGabundo> yhan
[23:00] <Daekdroom> !info zeitgeist
[23:01] <Daekdroom> I still haven't realized what zeitgeist is about
[23:08] <arand> Daekdroom: Accociating events, (time/file edited/chatted with bob/listened to baraphsody)
[23:08] <Daekdroom> arand, every fascist's dream, I suppose.
[23:09] <arand> Yes, extensive monitoring, though presumably you keep your database for yourself in this case.
[23:11] <arand> Daekdroom: I guess you could compare it somewhat to these photo-management softwares, making nice timelines and such.
[23:27] <youknowwho> Hi, I'm running kubuntu 11.04 alpha 2, and wanted to ask if there's a workaround to be able to install firefox, or get rekonq to run? thanks.
[23:29] <penguin42> youknowwho: Firefox works for me; I'm on the current up to date natty, so probably a little after alpha 2
[23:30] <youknowwho> sorry, I'm running kubuntu on amd64...forgot to mention it...
[23:34] <penguin42> youknowwho: Yep, so am I - what happens if you try and run it?
[23:34] <jimlovell777> What's responsible for the bar on the left? I may have a few bugs to file but don't know what to file them against or look for in terms of duplicates.
[23:34] <penguin42> unity
[23:34] <jimlovell777> penguin42: Thanks.
[23:36] <youknowwho> penguin42: when I run the firefox installer and also try to install it from kpackagekit it tells me Error: trying to overwrite '/usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop', which is also in package kubuntu-firefox-installer 11.04ubuntu1
[23:36] <jimlovell777> Another question, my wireless card has always worked out of the box and for Alpha 2, it isn't. I've followed the steps on the UBuntu Wifi page but hasn't resolved the issue. It's not off in the BIOS, disabled by switch yet it's absent. Know of a page with more troubleshooting steps?
[23:37] <penguin42> youknowwho: Odd, I have kubuntu-firefox-installer 11.04ubuntu1 and firefox 4.0~b11+build3+nobinonly-0ubuntu2
[23:38] <youknowwho> yeah, that's the package that's trying to install
[23:38] <penguin42> same versions?
[23:40] <youknowwho> yes
[23:41] <penguin42> for me, that file isn't listed in the kubuntu-firefox-installer package
[23:43] <youknowwho> I did a fresh install not an upgrade, maybe is that?
[23:43] <penguin42> dunno - I'd drop the kubuntu-firefox-installer and see if that helps
[23:46] <youknowwho> ok, I'll give it a try
[23:49] <youknowwho> nop, same problem
[23:50] <penguin42> well if that's not there what's the conflict with?
[23:53] <youknowwho> I tried reinstalling kubuntu-firefox-installer, that didn't worked
[23:54] <penguin42> if you dpkg --purge kubuntu-firefox-installer and then apt-get install firefox exactly what error do you get?
[23:54] <youknowwho> after I removed it and try to install firefox it worked
[23:55] <youknowwho> success!
[23:56] <youknowwho> what a weird bug...
[23:56] <penguin42> there are many weird bugs
[23:57] <youknowwho> one less then...
[23:58] <coz_> hey all