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yofellithpr: I think everything in kubuntu-ppa/backports is already in natty - so there's no point in adding the PPA01:21
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lithprokay, thanks yofel01:21
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psusianyone interested in helping test some ureadahead boot speed improvements?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=168669902:45
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twager!nvidia11:18
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto | The ATI and nVidia binary drivers may not be currently installable at the moment11:18
bullgard!teamviewer | bullgard11:21
eruditehermithey, is there a maverick ppa for gnome 3 that is up to date?11:22
bullgardWill Natty provide a teamviewer package?11:22
Daekdroomeruditehermit, not even the natty ppa for GNOME Shell is up-to-date.11:22
Daekdroomand a gnome 3 ppa for maverick would create such a breakage because of GTK+2 and GTK+311:22
Daekdroom!info teamviewer11:23
ubottuPackage teamviewer does not exist in natty11:23
eruditehermitalso on a related note, does ubuntu have a ATI catalyst driver that works with natty?11:24
eruditehermitthanks for the response Daekdroom btw11:24
Daekdroomeruditehermit, the catalyst driver is currently broken11:24
eruditehermit=(11:24
eruditehermitDaekdroom, any experience with r600g?11:25
Daekdroombut the opensource one works with all cards up to HD5xxx, with 3D accel and all.11:25
Daekdroomr600g is alright. I'm using it.11:25
eruditehermitDaekdroom, how is flash with it11:25
DaekdroomBut you have to enable it in xorg.conf, because it uses r600c by default.11:25
eruditehermitis r600g a lot better than r600c?11:25
DaekdroomFaster, less stable too.11:26
eruditehermit=(11:26
eruditehermitwhat kind of performance benefit is there?11:26
eruditehermit% wise11:26
DaekdroomI have no idea, really.11:26
eruditehermitare you able to play 1080p videos?11:26
eruditehermitand flash videos?11:27
DaekdroomAs far as I know, flash videos are done on the CPU side.11:27
eruditehermitDaekdroom, with some cards with capable drivers some of it is GPU accelerated11:28
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Daekdroomeruditehermit, the open source driver isn't capable.11:28
eruditehermitah11:28
* eruditehermit hates flash11:28
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bullgardDaekdroom: Thank you for your help.11:34
eruditehermitDaekdroom, thanks for answering all my questions =)11:35
eruditehermitDaekdroom, any chance i could ask you a favour?12:04
eruditehermitDaekdroom, would you be willing to post your xorg.conf to pastebin?12:04
eruditehermit2.6.38 is incredible with r600c alone12:05
eruditehermitcan play 1080p vidoes flawlessly and flash 1080p12:05
twager!nvidia12:23
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto | The ATI and nVidia binary drivers may not be currently installable at the moment12:23
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yofeltwager: no, there is no working nvidia driver for natty currently, nowhere12:35
twageryofel: Seems ok in Kubuntu ?12:41
yofelwell, nouveau will work fine in some cases, but the proprietary driver is broken12:45
twagerNouveau will not work for me..12:47
yofelwhat's te12:49
yofel*what's the problem?12:49
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Guest13519anyone else has the problem, that the interface crashs when banshee will start13:05
leniosGuest13519, go to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/ and search for it13:16
leniosif it's not reported, it would be interesting to fill a report13:17
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PiciBleh.  I'm still trying to debug my weird terminal input issue.15:37
penguin42Pici: What happens?15:38
Picipenguin42: Input just seems to go ignored.  I'm not sure if its a problem with gnome-terminal, or with ssh though.15:38
penguin42odd15:38
PiciWhen it happens next, I'll throw strace at both processes and see if either is seeing input.15:39
penguin42so this is an ssh running in a gnome-terminal ?15:41
PiciYeah.15:41
penguin42could be a focus problem? Does the cursor in the terminal change to solid to show it has the focus?15:42
PiciI just got it.. but I saw a definite change in ssh traffic when it happened, so I think it may be a network or ssh issue now.15:42
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graingertns idnentify volvocar17:07
graingertffs17:07
graingertgah17:09
graingertokay17:09
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gpcgraingert: hehe :)17:20
PiciLooks like there are some ssh regressions in natty, I'm still having trouble pinpointing where my issue is, so I'm hoping that whatever fixes those fix my issue too.17:25
share111.10  http://www.hudieai.com/?fromuid=13680918:05
edgyHi, I installed natty kubuntu but before it gives kdm screen it hangs! what's wrong?18:28
edgyany workaround so I can try the system?18:31
qziois it just me or does the menubar for gnome-terminals always come back when I start a new terminal window?18:39
Daekdroomqzio, someone yesterday was asking about that.18:40
DaekdroomI think it was Pici18:40
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Piciqzio: bug 71733219:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 717332 in gnome-terminal (Ubuntu) "gnome-terminal is confused about its menubar status" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/71733219:05
penguin42yeh I duped it with an other one19:37
Machtinso.. let's say i can startx as root, but if i do it as my user, everything's just black.20:28
Machtinit seems everything works fine (because when i switch windows, the borders of the applications are shown) except displaying it.20:29
Machtinit's just a black screen with the mouse on it.. and the borders when i alt+tab. (KDE)20:29
Machtinwhat could that be? :)20:29
Machtinthis place used to be more crowded :o21:01
dupondjeCan somebody surf to http://support.mozilla.com/pa-IN/questions/682192 ?21:16
dupondjeit crashes firefox directly here :s21:16
yofelworks here, but I use the ff4 daily builds21:16
robin0800works in chrome21:17
Machtinworks in opera21:18
Volkodavworks in ff4 beta1121:18
Machtinand whatever firefox is the actual one in 11.0421:18
dupondjestrange :s21:18
Machtini hate to have to be logged in as root. :|21:19
guntbertMachtin: what compels you?21:20
Machtinthe problem with the black screen when i log onto as my user.21:20
dupondjeGot a feeling that my profile is a bit corrupt :(21:21
Machtin(i posted the problem here 50 minutes ago)21:21
guntbertMachtin: just for testing: create another user,...21:21
robin0800Machtin, Create a new user then21:21
Machtinhum, word.21:21
Machtinjust a sec. :)21:21
Machtindidn't work. :|21:23
dupondje$ firefox --help21:23
dupondje/usr/lib/firefox-4.0b11/firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libxul.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory21:23
dupondjeeuh ?21:23
dupondjeanyone else got this ?21:24
Daekdroomdupondje, I do21:24
Machtinyup, me too.21:24
dupondjewoow21:26
dupondje###!!! ABORT: X_GLXVendorPrivateWithReply: BadLength (poly request too large or internal Xlib length error): file /build/buildd/firefox-4.0~b11+build3+nobinonly/build-tree/mozilla/toolkit/xre/nsX11ErrorHandler.cpp, line 19021:26
dupondje:P21:26
Machtinhm.. that's just too odd for me. :/21:28
dupondjeok21:28
dupondjehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/clutter-1.0/+bug/71428021:28
ubottuUbuntu bug 714280 in clutter-1.0 (Ubuntu) "The error was 'BadLength (poly request too large or internal Xlib length erro'." [High,Confirmed]21:28
Machtinguntbert, robin0800: any other idea on that?21:30
robin0800Machtin, you would have to tell us your system, graphic card, drivers and how long you've had the problem21:33
Machtinsince today, i7-920(cpu), nvidia gtx 260 (nouveau)21:34
Machtinrobin0800: if I'm missing anything relevant, please ask :)21:35
robin0800Machtin, pretty sure you can't change the driver as the proprietary one won't work with the new Xserver21:37
Machtinyup, if i try to install nvidia-current it tries to remove X ;)21:38
scott__Hey everyone.  I was wondering if the global menu in 11.04 will support Firefox, Thunderbird, and OO.o/Libreoffice?21:39
robin0800Machtin, google search your problem21:40
Machtinuh, i did. what did you find?21:40
robin0800scott__,  Firefox, Thunderbird, and OO.o/Libreoffice? have to be changed to work with it I think21:41
dupondjescott__: I saw a package firefox-globalmenu ..21:41
scott__they use a different toolkit than GTK+ apps right?21:41
MachtinI try to find stuff on the web before annoying people.. though I admit that I'm not the most professional googler. :/21:41
robin0800Machtin, can't find much myself21:48
Machtinah, ok.21:48
Machtinhm, wait.21:49
MachtinMight it have something to do with upstart/plymouth? I have to cancel it because my crypt-disk-loading doesn't really work.21:49
robin0800Machtin, where its happened before the advise is always to change driver but no good this time21:50
Machtinisn't there some basic driver?21:51
Machtinlike vesa?21:51
Machtinwell.. i'll continue tomorrow.22:25
Machtinsee you around, and thanks!22:25
BUGabundoyhan22:51
Daekdroom!info zeitgeist23:00
ubottuzeitgeist (source: zeitgeist): event logging framework. In component main, is optional. Version 0.5.2-0ubuntu1 (natty), package size 1 kB, installed size 52 kB23:00
DaekdroomI still haven't realized what zeitgeist is about23:01
arandDaekdroom: Accociating events, (time/file edited/chatted with bob/listened to baraphsody)23:08
Daekdroomarand, every fascist's dream, I suppose.23:08
arandYes, extensive monitoring, though presumably you keep your database for yourself in this case.23:09
arandDaekdroom: I guess you could compare it somewhat to these photo-management softwares, making nice timelines and such.23:11
youknowwhoHi, I'm running kubuntu 11.04 alpha 2, and wanted to ask if there's a workaround to be able to install firefox, or get rekonq to run? thanks.23:27
penguin42youknowwho: Firefox works for me; I'm on the current up to date natty, so probably a little after alpha 223:29
youknowwhosorry, I'm running kubuntu on amd64...forgot to mention it...23:30
penguin42youknowwho: Yep, so am I - what happens if you try and run it?23:34
jimlovell777What's responsible for the bar on the left? I may have a few bugs to file but don't know what to file them against or look for in terms of duplicates.23:34
penguin42unity23:34
jimlovell777penguin42: Thanks.23:34
youknowwhopenguin42: when I run the firefox installer and also try to install it from kpackagekit it tells me Error: trying to overwrite '/usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop', which is also in package kubuntu-firefox-installer 11.04ubuntu123:36
jimlovell777Another question, my wireless card has always worked out of the box and for Alpha 2, it isn't. I've followed the steps on the UBuntu Wifi page but hasn't resolved the issue. It's not off in the BIOS, disabled by switch yet it's absent. Know of a page with more troubleshooting steps?23:36
penguin42youknowwho: Odd, I have kubuntu-firefox-installer 11.04ubuntu1 and firefox 4.0~b11+build3+nobinonly-0ubuntu223:37
youknowwhoyeah, that's the package that's trying to install23:38
penguin42same versions?23:38
youknowwhoyes23:40
penguin42for me, that file isn't listed in the kubuntu-firefox-installer package23:41
youknowwhoI did a fresh install not an upgrade, maybe is that?23:43
penguin42dunno - I'd drop the kubuntu-firefox-installer and see if that helps23:43
youknowwhook, I'll give it a try23:46
youknowwhonop, same problem23:49
penguin42well if that's not there what's the conflict with?23:50
youknowwhoI tried reinstalling kubuntu-firefox-installer, that didn't worked23:53
penguin42if you dpkg --purge kubuntu-firefox-installer and then apt-get install firefox exactly what error do you get?23:54
youknowwhoafter I removed it and try to install firefox it worked23:54
youknowwhosuccess!23:55
youknowwhowhat a weird bug...23:56
penguin42there are many weird bugs23:56
youknowwhoone less then...23:57
coz_hey all23:58

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