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sagacihey01:25
sagacihi03:58
head_victimGday sagaci 05:27
sagaciwhat's happening05:27
head_victimJust submitted my first job application in about 15 years05:28
head_victimYou?05:29
sagacitrying set up a blog05:30
head_victimI don't have enough stuff interesting to say to write a blog.05:31
sagacineither do I but it'll fill in five minutes here and there05:31
head_victimI've often considered it so I could write up things I've done so if I need to do it again I have it online to check with05:32
sagaciand just "won" an opensuse t-shirt05:32
head_victimHaha yeah I saw that, not sure I'd fit a medium though and it's not my wife's style05:32
sagacineither would I but I have a student interested in FLOSS that would appreciate it05:33
head_victimAh fair call.05:33
sagaciin primary school, learning logo and python05:34
sagaciwish I had that kind of a brain back then05:34
sagacinot that I do now05:34
head_victimThey'll be more developer skilled than I am :/ I just wish I had of realised I liked IT before I did a Psychology degree.05:35
sagaciyeah but I think there'd be a lot of crap you'd have to study for an IT degree05:36
sagacitake most of the fun out of it05:36
head_victimYeah I would have done it though, would be better suited to jobs I'd enjoy more than I'm doing now05:36
sagacii just took one of the units from the comp faculty. the Unix/Linux environment... took all the exercises and exams and tried to work through it05:37
Phlostenhead_victim: you are not alone, there are huge amounts of uni graduates these days that end up working in entirely different industries05:39
Phlostenwe make kids pick their careers far too early in life05:40
head_victimPhlosten: Oh I'm currently using my degree, that's not a problem, I just wish I could have done it combined with something IT so I could be where I want :D05:40
Phlostenand work experience placement does not seem to be valued as much anymore05:41
head_victimThat's because we're all too money focussed05:41
Phlostenindeed, which is sad, because a fulfilling career is not just about money05:42
sagacifulfilling career... rm -rf'ing the main server on your last day of work05:43
Phlostenfirefox seems to crash a hell of a lot under Ubuntu, guessing it is most likely the Flash plugin, but still very annoying06:12
head_victimI keep crashing the pdf plugin06:13
head_victimDoesn't open the file, if I quit an dsave all tabs and then re open it works06:13
head_victimcaryb & blahdeblah & any other Brisbanites - I'm in preliminary talks with someone who cold emailed me off the wiki I think. They are a student at a public high school and have floated the idea of Ubuntu-AU coming to do a talk. I have given them a few things to think about as to what they want from us but would you be interested in coming along for this sort of thing? Obviously date and time tbc.09:34
blahdeblahWhere is it?09:39
head_victimblahdeblah: actually looks closer to caryb than you or I, Dakabin appears to be just past Kallangur and Petrie. Maybe I can see if jfer is interested as well. 09:41
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head_victimAlthough I'd be willing to carpool people if that were a better option09:42
blahdeblahWell, let me know what you come up with.  If it's a Friday i might be able to come.09:42
head_victimI've just put to them they need to decide what sort of information they want from us, I've suggested an installfest for the IT class09:42
head_victimI also need to know what suits them best, either after school, during school, or on the weekend.09:43
head_victimBut I think it's too good an opportunity to turn down.09:43
blahdeblahhead_victim: Absolutely.  If i can make it work, i will.10:18
head_victimblahdeblah: cool so if I'm trying to guide them to a timeframe fridays work for you? How about weekends or weeknights?10:22
blahdeblahhead_victim: Some weeknights & Saturdays can work for me - just depends on how much notice i get.10:39
head_victimblahdeblah: no worries, I'm waiting for them to get back to me now just thought I'd get what sort of an idea I could so I could work out a time where more than just me can go10:40
head_victimI'm fine for talking and doing but when it comes to technical stuff I don't just know it off the top of my head, I need to look it up.10:40
sagacihi10:50
carybJared, I can do that if you want. Dakabin is 15 mins from me10:56
head_victimcaryb: sweet, figure if we have a team of 2 - 3 it will work great10:57
carybno probs:-)10:57
head_victimIs there a "better" time of the week for you? Just if they start talking times and days I'd like to get a general feel of what does and doesn't work10:58
caryb4th fri night of the month is out other than that is ok10:58
carybI can do daytime during the week to10:59
head_victimOk cool. Well if anything does eventuate I'll try to aim for probably a friday if possible, seems to suit us all as long as I don't have a shift on10:59
carybI need to by a new Ubuntu polo shirt11:00
carybwould almost be better to get them made locally11:01
head_victimI think I would prefer one of the new branded ones as well11:01
head_victimIt would be 30 bucks each if we both got one and combined postage11:05
head_victimNot sure it's much cheaper11:05
head_victimIt's about 32 just for the shirt and postage11:05
sagacithe meerkat ones?11:06
head_victimNah the polo's, like what I'm wearing in the open day photos but with the new branding logo11:06
sagacigot a link handy?11:07
head_victimhttp://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=64811:07
sagaciah right, i'd rather one of them than the meerkat shirts11:08
head_victimYeah, they don't date as easily, unless they change the branding again (which they did 2 months after my other polo arrived)11:08
sagacii just prefer the plain look11:09
carybthats the shirt11:19
carybI don't a shirt alligned to a release 11:19
elkyI think the re-branding has been a much bigger thing than they expected, so I don't think it's something we'll see again for quite a while.11:20
caryb           ^ want11:20
carybwould be good to get one with the AU logo but that is not possible11:22
elkySure it is. We're perfectly able to walk in to any embroidery and have it done.11:23
carybdo we get the official shirt & add our bit, or start from scratch elky?11:24
head_victimIs it acceptable to get the official ubuntu stuff embroidered as well?11:24
carybgreat minds think alike.... Lol11:24
head_victimHaha, rivers have polo shirts for 4 bucks each atm..............11:25
elkySo long as you're not using the logo for commercial purposes, you're entitled to get the official ubuntu logo too.11:25
head_victimAh well, we should drum up an order on the list.11:25
elkyTake in the shirt and plonk down two pdf files. I want that on that sleeve, and this on the other. Thanks!11:25
sagacirankings on the shoulders11:26
sagaciubuntu sergeant, ubuntu corporal11:26
sagacino, not really11:26
elkyhead_victim, i'd be careful with that to be honest. It's not a cheap venture to get them done.11:27
head_victimelky: I was just think we could order what people pay for.11:27
elkyyes, but this will involve taking money up front and hoping the people who paid have a reasonable concept of patience.11:28
sagaciget some decent fabric, i don't want it crapping up within a few washes11:28
sagaci30-40 a shirt?11:28
sagaciprobably easier to go via the official merch store, if enough people ordered11:28
carybI myself prefer to buy through Canonical so they make some profit11:28
elkyhead_victim, using something like one of the online stores would be better.11:28
elkysagaci, you'll struggle to get them to make special things for you.11:29
carybI have a vested interest in keeping them viable11:29
sagaciblahdeblah, shirt order from Canonical, viable?11:29
elkysagaci, you're talking polos, more than that for two pieces of embroidery on a small-run (less than hundreds)11:29
sagacilike little circle of friends logo, yeah11:30
elkysagaci, well these guys were talking about having the ubuntu-au dot-art logo too.11:30
sagaciahh11:30
sagacidrives effort and price up11:30
carybif someone is getting AU polo I'm interested11:31
sagacijust stick a business card on the pocket11:31
sagacii'd prefer polo from ubuntu store11:31
elkyhead_victim, caryb there's also places like zazzle.com.au which can do stuff and post it for nil profit to yourself11:32
elkyhence fitting the trademark guidelines11:33
head_victimI'm shooting an email to some people to see if it is viable.11:33
sagaci-au shirts?11:34
carybPolos starting at:11:36
caryb$47.4511:36
caryb@ zazzle.com.au would be cheaper to get the Ubuntu one & add our logo11:37
head_victimI'll let you know what ballpark figure they come back with for 2 logos and supplying the shirt11:37
blahdeblahsagaci: I'm 0 for 1 with orders from the Canonical store, so asking me whether it's viable is probably not the best idea... ;-)11:38
head_victimWon't know until we ask I guess. If it's $50 I'm probably going to just buy a 30 dollar shirt from canonical and leave it at that11:38
elkygeez, zazzle is not the way to go for embroidery. they insist on "converting" it. So the simple circle of friends logo will cost $66 to set up.11:39
sagacirip off11:39
elkywell i can see their logic, but yeah.11:39
head_victimYeah to do it right isn't cheap11:40
sagacii'll get two shirts from the canonical store11:40
elkyhead_victim, depends *how* really11:40
head_victimBut I've emailed a local embroidery store and will see if it's worth persuing.11:40
elkyhead_victim, promo places are also an option.11:40
head_victimMy wife suggested them (it's who they refer people to, she works at a quilting store)11:40
head_victimhttp://www.mtgravatt.embroidme.com.au/11:43
elkyhead_victim, http://www.printapromo.com.au/uniforms-and-clothing/custom-polo-shirts/mens-unisex seems to have sensible minimums11:52
head_victimAh yeah the embroid me don't have a minimum numbe rjust no idea about pricing11:52
head_victimYou can order just one if you want11:52
elkyyeah, but if that one is $70, then they can go jump :P11:53
head_victimYep but you have to email for a quote, I gave an indication of 10 - 20 shirts11:54
head_victimANd they're just up the road so organising it is easy :P11:54
head_victimThey look like they use the same tshirt suppliers though. Gives us a good idea how much we should be looking at though11:58
sagaciare you hell-bent on getting -au shirts?12:05
elkyhead_victim, or how much they'll be ripping you off :P12:05
elkysagaci, yeah12:05
head_victimsagaci: not "hell-bent" but if I'm going to be buying a shirt anyway and it won't cost much more for an -AU one then why not is my theory12:06
elkyI'm sure it'll be fine though, and local would be better than having to pay postage twice.12:06
sagaciyep12:06
sagacii'd like to know the final design would look like12:06
sagacibut hard unless a prototype is made12:07
head_victimWell yeah that will be the next fig... I mean decision ;)12:07
head_victimI figure whoever organises it is probably most likely the one taking the final call on it as they'll be putting in the work12:08
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