[00:01]  * penguin42 wonders if hamitron always buys his computer stuff in powers of 2
[00:01] <hamitron> haha, it is a cool price :D
[00:01] <hamitron> it is actually £255 plus a bit
[00:02] <penguin42> bah
[00:02] <hamitron> ITX mobo, 8gb ram and i3 cpu
[00:02] <hamitron> :)
[00:03] <hamitron> use it for gaming for now, then use as a sff pc later
[00:04] <hamitron> kinda wishI hadn't wasted money on new games, keyboards and a crash symbol now
[00:06]  * hamitron blames pophey
[00:08] <Pendulum> hamitron: is that like blaming popey?
[00:08] <hamitron> yeh
[00:09] <shauno> crash symbol?
[00:09] <hamitron> for drum kit
[00:09] <shauno> ah
[00:10] <shauno> well, atleast postfix's conf looks nothing like sendmail's used to.  that's more than a small blessing
[00:12] <penguin42> shauno: sendmails looked bad, but in reality most people never needed to touch the bit that looked like line noise
[00:14] <hcfd> Hi guys. I am trying to setup 6 serial ports using setserial on Ubuntu 10.04 LTS. I had these working previously under Ubuntu 10.10. I have the correct UART, IRQ, port (I/O address) information but setserial gives me an error on /dev/ttyS[4-7], and no matter how I set ttyS3, it isn't working.
[00:15] <hcfd> niall@lucifer:~$ setserial /dev/ttyS3 irq 15 port 0xec00
[00:15] <hcfd> Cannot set serial info: Operation not permitted
[00:16] <hcfd> Oops, wrong paste. I was using sudo setserial... and the error I get is: niall@lucifer:~$ sudo setserial /dev/ttyS4 irq 15 port 0xe400
[00:16] <hcfd> Cannot set serial info: Invalid argument
[00:16] <terran> ... getting highlighted on Niall every time
[00:17] <hcfd> ?
[00:25]  * penguin42 is gently shocked setserial is needed in this day and age
[00:27] <BigRedS> gently shocked?
[00:28] <hcfd> penguin42, my card came with its own driver but it doesn't work with recent kernels.. 8250.nr_uarts=nn is needed, and setserial..
[00:29] <penguin42> BigRedS: Well you know, PCI should just work; it's not the days of ISA
[00:30] <BigRedS> penguin42: yeah, I was more amused at the concept of being shocked in a gentle way :)
[00:30] <s-fox> Good morning :)
[00:31] <BigRedS> goood morning!
[00:31] <s-fox> How are you ?
[00:31] <BigRedS> I'm all good. I have just noticed it's no longer "a bit after ten" though :(
[00:32] <BigRedS> you?
[00:32] <s-fox> Not so bad, just doing my rounds on the ubuntu forums.
[00:32] <s-fox> A little bored to be honest ;)
[00:33] <BigRedS> haha. I've noticed I'm crap at writing code to fix other people's problems. I get really bored of it really quickly
[00:33] <penguin42> BigRedS: It's like the parliamentry expense scandal; it's shocking that MPs would run off with our money - but not *really* that surprising to find they did
[00:35] <BigRedS> haha. Sort-of wishing you found it shocking?
[00:35] <penguin42> yeh
[00:36] <hamitron> it is shocking some still seem to think they did nothing wrong, because it was "within the rules"
[00:36] <hamitron> ;)
[00:36] <BigRedS> I'm just amused it was such a scandal
[00:36] <BigRedS> we all know they're embezzling money and, relatively speaking, really not that much went on expenses
[00:36] <jacobw> Yeah, I think there were more important things going on at the time..
[00:37] <jacobw> For months about 30 minutes of Question Time was taken up with "But.. but.. expenses!"
[00:37] <hamitron> they probably used the smoke screen as an ideal time to put dodgy stuff through :/
[00:37] <BigRedS> possibly. But just crap like NPfIT and the like. Can't we all get angry about that sort of stuff?
[00:38] <hamitron> NPfIT?
[00:38] <BigRedS> I think that's its acronym. The NHS IT project
[00:39] <directhex> the "let's buy terrible ms software for billions on a decades-long contract" one?
[00:39] <BigRedS> To be fair to them, there's a lot of terrible non-ms software in there :)
[00:40] <hamitron> they do it with everything, why do something clever with IT? ;/
[00:41] <BigRedS> yeah, I'd just like more people to be annoyed by it
[00:41] <directhex> blaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarg
[00:41] <hamitron> I am annoyed with it and many things :)
[00:43] <hamitron> but in fairness to those deciding on behalf of the NHS thingy, the whole IT industry is messy :/
[00:45] <hamitron> there seems to be an obsession with needing to advance everything every few years, breaking the standards of today to make work tomorrow
[00:45] <shauno> good lord.  getting a self-signed cert onto an iphone is a hell of a mess.
[00:45] <jacobw> change != improvement
[00:46] <hamitron> I'd like to see more major changes, but less often
[00:46] <hamitron> only if changes improve something though :)
[00:48] <hamitron> why I love ubuntu LTS tbh
[00:48] <hamitron> although, it would be even longer if I decided ;)
[00:51]  * bigcalm eyes bigcalm_ 
[00:51] <bigcalm> Why has my workstation woken up?
[00:51] <bigcalm> Silly windows
[00:52] <hamitron> why blame windows?
[00:53] <bigcalm> Because it run windows
[00:53] <bigcalm> Why not? ;)
[00:53] <bigcalm> If I make it sleep, it will wake up around this time each night for a few minutes before going back to sleep
[00:53] <hamitron> suppose
[00:53] <hamitron> :)
[00:53] <bigcalm> Quite odd
[01:09] <s-fox> Goodbye
[08:13] <Myrtti> boo.
[08:17]  * AlanBell jumps
[09:06] <daubers> Morning
[09:16]  * daubers goes to the office
[09:33] <czajkowski> morning
[09:35] <AlanBell> o/
[09:35] <AlanBell> how was the eye?
[09:43] <czajkowski> nice
[09:43] <czajkowski> bit scarey at times
[09:44] <czajkowski> but nice
[09:44] <czajkowski> then we went wine tasting
[09:44] <AlanBell> I fully indend to go on the eye one day
[09:44] <czajkowski> really should have more food in you before you do that
[09:44] <czajkowski> finished off the evneing having yummy steak
[09:45] <AlanBell> I have been to a few things at vinopolis, but they were more wine drinking than wine tasting
[09:45] <daubers> I never intend to go on the eye. Far too high
[09:47] <czajkowski> daubers: I'm scared shitless
[09:47] <czajkowski> it was nice
[09:47] <czajkowski> but whehn it stops at the top I was a bit scared
[09:48] <daubers> czajkowski: Last time I went on anything near that high, I ended up lying on the floor with my eyes closed until they let me off
[09:48] <czajkowski> we also had champagne on it
[09:48] <czajkowski> daubers: oh I did sit for most of it
[09:48] <czajkowski> and only went to the glass windows when I could hold onto the boy
[09:55] <AlanBell> aww
[10:05] <czajkowski> AlanBell: less awwing mister
[10:08]  * AlanBell will behave
[10:09] <AlanBell> probably
[10:11]  * daubers ponders the best way to physically show file creation/deletion events
[10:12] <daubers> Blinky LEDS are a bit pooey
[10:12] <AlanBell> small explosions?
[10:14] <daubers> Hmmm... not convinced
[10:14] <AlanBell> must be an electronic detonation method for these http://www.amazon.co.uk/Peterkin-100-Shot-Gun-Caps/dp/B000H8XSPO
[10:14] <czajkowski> hmm no idea how to change the terminal settings
[10:15] <czajkowski> white background is awful to read
[10:15] <czajkowski> popey: on a mac help?
[10:15] <czajkowski> please
[10:15] <AlanBell> czajkowski: http://superuser.com/questions/150916/change-background-and-font-colors-in-mac-terminal
[10:16] <czajkowski> hmm thanks
[10:18] <czajkowski> whoo
[10:18] <czajkowski> I can see again
[10:18] <AlanBell> yay
[10:18] <czajkowski> Green on black so much better
[10:18] <AlanBell> always happy to make a mac prettier, they are pretty ugly things after all
[10:20] <czajkowski> AlanBell: I now have my own ac on it, I'm not to be trusted it seems
[10:20] <czajkowski> no idea why he thinks that
[10:20] <AlanBell> I can't imagine
[10:21] <daubers> AlanBell: You can get electronic matches
[10:21] <iandiandi_> \help
[10:22] <AlanBell> hi iandiandi_
[10:22] <iandiandi_> hi
[10:22] <iandiandi_> I'm trying to register with freenode in order to use #python but I can't work it out
[10:23] <AlanBell> if anyone is in the kings cross area this afternoon at 3PM there is a show and tell thing at the guardian for the rewired state south by south west hackday
[10:23] <daubers> AlanBell: http://www.rocketstore.co.uk/shop/product.asp?numRecordPosition=1&P_ID=250&strPageHistory=cat&strKeywords=&SearchFor=&PT_ID=116
[10:23] <AlanBell> not sure if issyl0 is involved in this one
[10:23] <AlanBell> !register
[10:24] <iandiandi_> cheers lubotu3
[10:24] <AlanBell> daubers: I used to be involved in a fireworks company (only around november time) I did all the electro-dets
[10:24] <daubers> \o/
[10:24] <AlanBell> iandiandi_: lubotu3 is a bot :)
[10:24] <daubers> AlanBell: I used to build model rockets :)
[10:36] <popey> czajkowski: Shell -> New Window -> Pro
[10:47] <AlanBell> iandiandi: is it not working?
[10:49] <iandiandi> AlanBell: thanks got it now.  I was trying to use Empathy at first and it doesn't seem to allow registration.  On xchat now
[10:52] <AlanBell> if I pair a bluetooth headset with Ubuntu, what interesting things can I do with it?
[10:53] <MartijnVdS> AlanBell: you can use it to call people using empathy
[10:53] <nigelb> hla
[10:53] <nigelb> *hola
[10:53] <MartijnVdS> AlanBell: you can look like an idiot, wearing a bluetooth headset ;)
[10:53] <MartijnVdS> AlanBell: (you know those people talking to thin air)
[10:55]  * AlanBell gets it working with pulse
[10:55]  * AlanBell puts MartijnVdS on /ignore ;)
[10:55] <MartijnVdS> AlanBell: it's all plug/click and play
[10:55]  * Myrtti has a Nokia bluetooth bobble that can be used with any headsets
[10:55] <MartijnVdS> AlanBell: I have one of these: http://www.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=508754
[10:56] <MartijnVdS> AlanBell: Attaches to the amplifier :)
[11:02] <nigelb> MartijnVdS: you can look like an idiot - HAHA
[11:03] <MartijnVdS> nigelb: that's the thing bluetooth headsets are best at ;)
[11:04] <nigelb> MartijnVdS: heh, I agree though.
[11:04] <AlanBell> so do I actually
[11:04] <AlanBell> but having lost my streak I am on an old handset with a somewhat broken microphone
[11:05] <nigelb> AlanBell: Dell Streak?
[11:05] <AlanBell> so I got a headset to make me sound better, and look worse
[11:05] <popey> "lost"
[11:05] <popey> :)
[11:05] <nigelb> Also, 'lost'?
[11:05] <AlanBell> yeah
[11:05]  * nigelb waves to popey 
[11:06]  * AlanBell wonders what handsets will be available on June 11th
[11:06] <nigelb> What's special on June 11?
[11:06] <AlanBell> I get an upgrade on the contract
[11:06]  * MartijnVdS guesses a contract renewal
[11:06] <nigelb> I thought it was your birthday :p
[11:06] <AlanBell> it is a rolling 24 month contract with upgrades every 12 months
[11:06] <nigelb> aah
[11:07] <AlanBell> my birthday is on the 16th June
[11:07]  * nigelb lives a more peaceful life re: phone
[11:08]  * AlanBell will be 100100
[11:08] <nigelb> hah
[11:08] <MartijnVdS> AlanBell: ah, 24 :)
[11:09] <nigelb> no no, 19
[11:09] <MartijnVdS> nigelb: no, 0x24
[11:09] <nigelb> ah
[11:10] <AlanBell> 44 in octal
[11:11] <gord> these days i much prefer buying my own phones rather than getting one with a contract, the freedom is worth it :)
[11:11] <nigelb> gord++
[11:11]  * MartijnVdS loves his contract-free Nexus One
[11:11] <MartijnVdS> if they'd only upgrade it to 2.3 :\
[11:11] <MartijnVdS> *shakes fist at Google*
[11:11] <nigelb> MartijnVdS: get the daily builds
[11:12] <nigelb> my colleague runs a daily build on his nexus one
[11:12] <MartijnVdS> nigelb: I want official builds
[11:12] <gord> i'v lost interest in 2.3 now.. honestly you can get the home screen and the keyboard on the android market these days. apart from that what do you want?
[11:12] <nigelb> I think he uses the cyanogen one
[11:13] <MartijnVdS> nigelb: yeah I'm not using that..
[11:13] <MartijnVdS> for several reasons :)
[11:14] <nigelb> MartijnVdS: heh
[11:24]  * dutchie wants a better phone :(
[11:53] <brobostigon> morning everyone.
[11:55] <Pendulum> morning brobostigon
[11:55] <brobostigon> morning Pendulum
[11:56] <MartijnVdS> \o
[11:56] <brobostigon> o/
[11:56] <dutchie> \o/
[11:56] <MartijnVdS> <<o
[11:57] <dutchie> there must be a way to do the YMCA here
[11:57] <MartijnVdS> nah
[11:59] <Pendulum> \o/ /o\ o= ô ?
[11:59] <Pendulum> not perfect, but pretty close
[11:59] <dutchie> pretty good
[12:07] <Joeb454> Pendulum: you could try using one of these: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%C3%B4
[12:08] <Pendulum> Joeb454: I did
[12:09] <Joeb454> Pendulum: ah, must be my terminal deciding unicode isn't worthy
[12:09]  * Joeb454 investigates
[12:13] <nigelb> o/
[12:33] <issyl0> AlanBell: I'm not, sadly. I didn't sign up in time. I'll be at the presentations though - wouldn't miss at least part of an RS event for the world!
[12:34] <AlanBell> issyl0: the G&T cake was great
[12:34] <issyl0> AlanBell: you lucky thing!
[12:34] <AlanBell> you need to try and get Emma to make that again
[12:34] <issyl0> AlanBell: I'll try!
[12:35] <AlanBell> are you doing the hack the government one?
[12:36] <issyl0> AlanBell: yes - I was the first to sign up for that :P
[12:36] <AlanBell> oh yeah, you said :)
[12:36]  * AlanBell has the memory of a goldfish
[12:37]  * Pendulum just parsed that completely wrong and nearly asked "what goldfish?"
[12:37] <MartijnVdS> Pendulum: /dev/goldfish
[12:38] <issyl0> Pendulum: oh dear :P
[12:38] <Myrtti> chuggachugga says the little home server and renders minecraft maps, again
[12:39]  * Pendulum is still fighting against buying minecraft
[12:39] <Pendulum> it may be a losing battle, but I'm not sure yet
[12:39] <Myrtti> FUTILE!
[12:40] <Pendulum> one of my mates has taken to showing me the map she plays on almost every time we chat on skype :-/
[12:41]  * brobostigon doesnt have a machine capable of running minecraft apparently.so doesnt need to worry.
[12:42] <AlanBell> Pendulum: resistance is futile
[12:42] <brobostigon> the borg*
[12:51] <daubers> brobostigon: They'll get bored of it eventually
[12:52] <brobostigon> daubers: maybe, like most things,
[12:53] <Pendulum> I have to say that minecraft has managed to keep more people I know occupied longer than most things
[12:54] <brobostigon> starship titanic, keptme occupied for years, untill i solved and finsihed it.
[12:56] <issyl0> 26
[12:56] <issyl0> Er.
[12:56] <nigelb> issyl0: 42
[12:56] <brobostigon> :)
[12:56] <brobostigon> lol
[12:56] <nigelb> Pendulum: There are things like Age of Empires.
[12:56] <brobostigon> issyl0: thats hhgttg.
[12:57] <issyl0> Eh?
[12:57] <nigelb> Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy
[12:57] <issyl0> Ah.
[12:58]  * issyl0 has never seen it. Or Star Wars.
[12:58]  * issyl0 != geek.
[12:59] <nigelb> issyl0: I beg to differ.  You are on IRC.  You are a geek :)
[12:59] <brobostigon> http://www.starshiptitanic.com/
[12:59] <AlanBell> issyl0 == geek
[12:59] <AlanBell> evaluates to True
[12:59] <Pendulum> issyl0: you need to read hitchhikers guide the galaxy :P
[12:59] <nigelb> AlanBell: I agree.
[13:00] <nigelb> AlanBell: Now we know what to gift issyl0 at her next birthday.
[13:00] <Pendulum> and the book first before the movie
[13:00] <issyl0> nigelb: hehe, alright :)
[13:00] <issyl0> AlanBell: thanks
[13:01] <issyl0> :P
[13:01] <daubers> issyl0: And read Dirk Gently too! Far better than H2G2 IMHO
[13:01] <Pendulum> daubers: true, but people reference H2G2 more
[13:01] <nigelb> issyl0: Also, you can skip the h2g2 movie, just read all the books ;)
[13:02]  * issyl0 has to go.
[13:02] <issyl0> I'll chat later.
[13:02] <issyl0> AlanBell: see you later :)
[13:02] <nigelb> What I love best is this http://lmgtfy.com/?q=answer+to+life+the+universe+and+everything
[13:02] <brobostigon> and get a copy of the dirk gently tv prog the bbc made.
[13:03] <Pendulum> brobostigon: so the BBC dirk gently is worth watching?
[13:03] <hcfd> Hmm. My 10.04 LTS installation, I just noticed, did not install the PAE kernel even though I have 8GB RAM. Simple fix, but.. surprised I had to do it at all.
[13:03] <brobostigon> Pendulum: definatly, it was really good.
[13:04] <brobostigon> Pendulum: i have a copy here, courtasy of get_iplayer. they only made a single episode.
[13:06] <gord> hcfd, sure you didn't have the 64-bit version?
[13:07] <hcfd> gord: Positive. Also, only 4GB seen.
[13:07] <gord> although maybe 10.04 didn't do it automatically, i can't remember that far back!
[13:07] <hcfd> I think even 9.10 is supposed to (server version)
[13:08] <hcfd> Well, gotta reboot and compile a module from a patchwork quilt. *fingers crossed*
[13:09] <AlanBell> issyl0: I can't go to this one
[13:09] <gord> i know my 32 bit install of natty did
[13:21] <n1md4> afternoon
[13:21] <ball> Mornin'
[13:23] <n1md4> Got a weird problem with a daap share.  I use Rhythmbox to connect, but one of the artists is missing from the list.  I've tried all sorts of restarts; mt-daap, and rhythmbox, deleting caches, etc, and rescanning the audio list using firefly web-front end, still the artist is missing.
[13:27] <jacobw> Afternoon
[13:29] <n1md4> ...just going to try a test, from another computer.
[13:41] <ball> Mornin' emma
[13:43]  * daubers nips out to grab some lunch
[13:48] <n1md4> That didn't work, still missing an artist from daap share :-/
[14:15] <n1md4> damned permissions!  Fixed it, didn't have read permission set.
[14:37] <fujisan>  Where do you buy a i3 2100 in the UK?
[15:23] <BigRedS> I'm not sure if it's a good thing or a bad thing that the huge majority of #empathy hashtags on Twitter are about the 'normal' meaning of the word, rather than the software
[15:25] <dutchie> BigRedS: are you aware of Help -> Debug?
[15:25] <dutchie> (from the contact list)
[15:26] <BigRedS> dutchie: nope. Awesome! Cheers!
[15:26] <dutchie> np
[15:28]  * BigRedS should turn to IRC before Twitter in future :)
[16:24] <jacobw> How does one cut out a peice of an audio file with Jokosher?
[16:32] <ubuntuuk-planet> [Kwabena Aning] LaTeX editors - http://blog.kaning.co.uk/archives/253
[16:41] <Azelphur> has anyone noticed with youtube recently, I'll start watching a video and it'll stream way too slowly, like 20KB/sec and it'll continually stop to buffer
[16:41] <Azelphur> then you hit refresh and it zooms up to 500KB/sec and works fine
[16:57] <exobuzz> youtube is constantly just rubbish for me
[16:58] <AlanBell> sounds like it is working as designed then exobuzz
[16:58] <exobuzz> hehe
[16:59] <exobuzz> Azelphur, btw, i have xbmc working nicely now on ubuntu maverick etc. in case you use your joggler still :
[16:59] <exobuzz> :) even
[16:59] <Azelphur> cool :D
[16:59] <Azelphur> I need to get it going again but still not sure what to do about storage
[17:00] <Azelphur> it nuked those microsd's so fast lol
[17:00] <Azelphur> and I don't want a huge external USB device
[17:00] <exobuzz> small usb stick ?
[17:00] <Azelphur> any recommendations? :D
[17:00] <exobuzz> ive got a couple of http://www.amazon.co.uk/Super-Talent-8GB-Pico-C-Chrome/dp/B001BAW7P4
[17:00] <bigcalm> sanddisk
[17:01] <exobuzz> they write at about 8-10mb/second and read at 25mb ish
[17:01] <Azelphur> exobuzz: got a photo of what that looks like in the joggler? looks like it'd sticko ut :(
[17:01] <exobuzz> it sticks out a bit.. like 1.5cm
[17:02] <Azelphur> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3832397/Photos/December%202010/IMG_20101208_021003.jpg
[17:02] <exobuzz> you could try maybe http://www.lacie.com/us/products/product.htm?pid=11546 if you want even smaller. slower though
[17:02] <Azelphur> my micro usb readers looked so cool
[17:02] <bigcalm> I have a usb hub plugged into mine. That hides under the stand so memory and kb connections are out of sight
[17:02] <exobuzz> i prefer some speed and sticking out a bit
[17:02] <exobuzz> bigcalm, yeh that works nicely too
[17:02] <Azelphur> exobuzz: it's for a clock, so speed isn't an issue ;)
[17:03] <Azelphur> once it boots it'll just sit there.
[17:03] <Azelphur> Read only filesystem is even an option
[17:03] <exobuzz> you should use it for more than a clock. heh
[17:03] <exobuzz> i mean you could watch iplayer on it or something
[17:03] <Azelphur> exobuzz: well I was thinking a mythtv enabled alarm clock
[17:03] <exobuzz> or stream porn. i mean videos
[17:04] <bigcalm> Azelphur: did you try out http://idophp.co.uk/projects/touch_alarm/
[17:04] <Azelphur> bigcalm: that's nothing compared to my joggleclock :o
[17:04] <exobuzz> xbmc looks great on it. nice to have it working again
[17:04] <Azelphur> bigcalm: did you look at my photo
[17:04]  * bigcalm looks
[17:04] <exobuzz> also no full screen hacks. i patched up the xbmc code to work properly with touchscreen in fullscreen mode
[17:04] <bigcalm> I haven't played with it for a long time. Does all that I want it to do
[17:04] <bigcalm> I see, very nice
[17:04] <Azelphur> :D
[17:05] <exobuzz> http://joggler.exotica.org.uk/source/xbmc/ (fyi)
[17:05] <exobuzz> i still need to set upo my bed joggler to use your clock
[17:05] <Azelphur> bigcalm: the activity log displays highlights/ims and the counters in the middle work apart from the unread email one, the weather works too. It's conky :)
[17:05] <exobuzz> Azelphur, is your clock stuff public ?
[17:05] <Azelphur> exobuzz: it's just conky
[17:05] <exobuzz> your config though
[17:05] <Azelphur> I think I lost it when my microsd died :(
[17:05]  * Azelphur has a nose around
[17:05] <exobuzz> *cough* backups
[17:06] <Azelphur> yup, that's where I put it, got it all here :P
[17:07] <Azelphur> exobuzz: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3832397/misc/Feburary%202011/Joggleclock.zip it's complete and utter crap :D
[17:07] <exobuzz> thanks. ill take a look
[17:07] <exobuzz> :
[17:08] <exobuzz> :)
[17:08] <exobuzz> bigcalm, tried out h/w acc video decoding ?
[17:08] <exobuzz> its pretty cool to see 1080p h264 video playing on the joggler with 15% cpu usage
[17:08] <exobuzz> (downscaled to 800x480 of course heh)
[17:10] <bigcalm> Really?
[17:10] <exobuzz> yeh
[17:10] <bigcalm> I haven't done anything with it for months
[17:10] <bigcalm> Work got in the way
[17:11] <bigcalm> Speaking of which. I should switch to the work station and finish off a Drupal skin :(
[17:11] <exobuzz> works with latest emgd. http://joggler.exotica.org.uk/mint/ has it pre-installed
[17:11] <exobuzz> mplayer -va vaapi -vo vaapi /path/to/video.mkv for example
[17:12] <bigcalm> Ta :)
[17:12] <exobuzz> work stuff ? ive done a couple of drupal sites. i was mostly impressed with drupal
[17:12] <bigcalm> I'm more of a backend coder
[17:12] <bigcalm> Messing with CSS is a PitA
[17:13] <exobuzz> with drupal, i have to use semantic views module or i lose my mind with all the bloat views makes
[17:14] <exobuzz> but i liked that it didnt take too long with drupal for example to do some custom modules etc and i like how everthing is split into modules
[17:15] <bigcalm> It's very versatile
[18:11] <lazarus_> sup
[19:21] <pr0ph3t> hi all
[19:23] <pr0ph3t> is there a fairly secure way to control an ubuntu installation remotely from another ubuntu installation?
[19:26] <moreati> pr0ph3t: !ssh
[19:26] <moreati> !ssh
[19:27] <pr0ph3t> moreati, I thought you couldn't nowdays with routers?
[19:27] <pr0ph3t> thanks by the way
[19:27] <moreati> pr0ph3t: ssh works over tcp, and hence through routers. Do you mean NAT?
[19:34] <pr0ph3t> moreati, I mean I can't connect to his ip because it's simply a local ip, but I can't connect to the gateway ip either right?
[19:35] <moreati> pr0ph3t: right, you did mean NAT.
[19:35] <pr0ph3t> moreati, sorry I didn't know I did mean that :P
[19:36] <moreati> pr0ph3t: What are you trying to accomplish - beyond connecting to this remote PC?
[19:37] <pr0ph3t> moreati, my dad is really bad with computers and lives abroad and he needs me to manage some things remotely
[19:38] <pr0ph3t> I will have to gain root access which is quite unsafe right?
[19:39] <pr0ph3t> I'll need tunneling?
[19:39] <moreati> pr0ph3t: 2 ways. 1) Have him install sshd, create a user account and open ports on his NAT router. 2) Both install Skype or Empathy and use desktop sharing
[19:39] <pr0ph3t> moreati, installing skype and empathy is exactly what he's trying to do now and can't do :P
[19:40] <moreati> pr0ph3t: Installing sshd and opening ports is likely to be an even greater challenge
[19:41] <pr0ph3t> moreati, skype is not in the repos
[19:41] <pr0ph3t> I'm giving him commands to paste in the console
[19:41] <pr0ph3t> sudo apt-get install sshd
[19:41] <moreati> pr0ph3t: yes it is, on 10.10 at least, and Empathy is installed out of the box
[20:13] <Neoti> hi all... iv just had a total memory block i can not think how to SSH to com1 ...
[20:13] <Neoti> any help
[20:13] <tugrik> "com1"?
[20:13] <tugrik> do you mean the serial port?
[20:13] <Neoti> a serial port
[20:13] <Neoti> es
[20:13] <Neoti> yes
[20:13] <tugrik> SSH is the wrong program, but I know what you mean :)
[20:13] <tugrik> look at "minicom"
[20:16] <Neoti> yep thats the prog ... im glad someone knew what i ment
[20:16] <Neoti> :)
[20:18] <Jibadeeha> i am liking the unity now in 11.04 alpha 2
[20:18] <Jibadeeha> what do you guys think to it
[20:58] <czajkowski> AlanBell: :D