[00:01] * penguin42 wonders if hamitron always buys his computer stuff in powers of 2 [00:01] haha, it is a cool price :D [00:01] it is actually £255 plus a bit [00:02] bah [00:02] ITX mobo, 8gb ram and i3 cpu [00:02] :) [00:03] use it for gaming for now, then use as a sff pc later [00:04] kinda wishI hadn't wasted money on new games, keyboards and a crash symbol now [00:06] * hamitron blames pophey [00:08] hamitron: is that like blaming popey? [00:08] yeh [00:09] crash symbol? [00:09] for drum kit [00:09] ah [00:10] well, atleast postfix's conf looks nothing like sendmail's used to. that's more than a small blessing [00:12] shauno: sendmails looked bad, but in reality most people never needed to touch the bit that looked like line noise [00:14] Hi guys. I am trying to setup 6 serial ports using setserial on Ubuntu 10.04 LTS. I had these working previously under Ubuntu 10.10. I have the correct UART, IRQ, port (I/O address) information but setserial gives me an error on /dev/ttyS[4-7], and no matter how I set ttyS3, it isn't working. [00:15] niall@lucifer:~$ setserial /dev/ttyS3 irq 15 port 0xec00 [00:15] Cannot set serial info: Operation not permitted [00:16] Oops, wrong paste. I was using sudo setserial... and the error I get is: niall@lucifer:~$ sudo setserial /dev/ttyS4 irq 15 port 0xe400 [00:16] Cannot set serial info: Invalid argument [00:16] ... getting highlighted on Niall every time [00:17] ? === gary_ is now known as Guest60135 === Guest33861 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest18873 [00:25] * penguin42 is gently shocked setserial is needed in this day and age [00:27] gently shocked? [00:28] penguin42, my card came with its own driver but it doesn't work with recent kernels.. 8250.nr_uarts=nn is needed, and setserial.. [00:29] BigRedS: Well you know, PCI should just work; it's not the days of ISA [00:30] penguin42: yeah, I was more amused at the concept of being shocked in a gentle way :) [00:30] Good morning :) [00:31] goood morning! [00:31] How are you ? [00:31] I'm all good. I have just noticed it's no longer "a bit after ten" though :( [00:32] you? [00:32] Not so bad, just doing my rounds on the ubuntu forums. [00:32] A little bored to be honest ;) [00:33] haha. I've noticed I'm crap at writing code to fix other people's problems. I get really bored of it really quickly [00:33] BigRedS: It's like the parliamentry expense scandal; it's shocking that MPs would run off with our money - but not *really* that surprising to find they did [00:35] haha. Sort-of wishing you found it shocking? [00:35] yeh [00:36] it is shocking some still seem to think they did nothing wrong, because it was "within the rules" [00:36] ;) [00:36] I'm just amused it was such a scandal [00:36] we all know they're embezzling money and, relatively speaking, really not that much went on expenses [00:36] Yeah, I think there were more important things going on at the time.. [00:37] For months about 30 minutes of Question Time was taken up with "But.. but.. expenses!" [00:37] they probably used the smoke screen as an ideal time to put dodgy stuff through :/ [00:37] possibly. But just crap like NPfIT and the like. Can't we all get angry about that sort of stuff? [00:38] NPfIT? [00:38] I think that's its acronym. The NHS IT project [00:39] the "let's buy terrible ms software for billions on a decades-long contract" one? [00:39] To be fair to them, there's a lot of terrible non-ms software in there :) [00:40] they do it with everything, why do something clever with IT? ;/ [00:41] yeah, I'd just like more people to be annoyed by it [00:41] blaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarg [00:41] I am annoyed with it and many things :) [00:43] but in fairness to those deciding on behalf of the NHS thingy, the whole IT industry is messy :/ [00:45] there seems to be an obsession with needing to advance everything every few years, breaking the standards of today to make work tomorrow [00:45] good lord. getting a self-signed cert onto an iphone is a hell of a mess. [00:45] change != improvement [00:46] I'd like to see more major changes, but less often [00:46] only if changes improve something though :) [00:48] why I love ubuntu LTS tbh [00:48] although, it would be even longer if I decided ;) [00:51] * bigcalm eyes bigcalm_ [00:51] Why has my workstation woken up? [00:51] Silly windows [00:52] why blame windows? [00:53] Because it run windows [00:53] Why not? ;) [00:53] If I make it sleep, it will wake up around this time each night for a few minutes before going back to sleep [00:53] suppose [00:53] :) [00:53] Quite odd === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [01:09] Goodbye === Guest18873 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest6324 === MonsterKiller is now known as monsterkiller === Guest6324 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest47378 === Guest47378 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest37333 === Azelphur is now known as zz_Azelphur === zz_Azelphur is now known as Azelphur === Guest37333 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest35904 === HazRPG1 is now known as HazRPG === Guest35904 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest16160 === Guest16160 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest82325 === Guest82325 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest7810 [08:13] boo. [08:17] * AlanBell jumps === Guest7810 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest46673 === simon__ is now known as SimonMX [09:06] Morning [09:16] * daubers goes to the office === Guest46673 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest41287 === simon__ is now known as SimonMX [09:33] morning [09:35] o/ [09:35] how was the eye? === drew is now known as Guest5886 [09:43] nice [09:43] bit scarey at times [09:44] but nice [09:44] then we went wine tasting [09:44] I fully indend to go on the eye one day [09:44] really should have more food in you before you do that [09:44] finished off the evneing having yummy steak [09:45] I have been to a few things at vinopolis, but they were more wine drinking than wine tasting [09:45] I never intend to go on the eye. Far too high === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [09:47] daubers: I'm scared shitless [09:47] it was nice [09:47] but whehn it stops at the top I was a bit scared [09:48] czajkowski: Last time I went on anything near that high, I ended up lying on the floor with my eyes closed until they let me off [09:48] we also had champagne on it [09:48] daubers: oh I did sit for most of it [09:48] and only went to the glass windows when I could hold onto the boy [09:55] aww [10:05] AlanBell: less awwing mister [10:08] * AlanBell will behave [10:09] probably [10:11] * daubers ponders the best way to physically show file creation/deletion events [10:12] Blinky LEDS are a bit pooey [10:12] small explosions? [10:14] Hmmm... not convinced [10:14] must be an electronic detonation method for these http://www.amazon.co.uk/Peterkin-100-Shot-Gun-Caps/dp/B000H8XSPO [10:14] hmm no idea how to change the terminal settings [10:15] white background is awful to read [10:15] popey: on a mac help? [10:15] please [10:15] czajkowski: http://superuser.com/questions/150916/change-background-and-font-colors-in-mac-terminal [10:16] hmm thanks [10:18] whoo [10:18] I can see again [10:18] yay [10:18] Green on black so much better [10:18] always happy to make a mac prettier, they are pretty ugly things after all [10:20] AlanBell: I now have my own ac on it, I'm not to be trusted it seems [10:20] no idea why he thinks that [10:20] I can't imagine [10:21] AlanBell: You can get electronic matches [10:21] \help [10:22] hi iandiandi_ [10:22] hi [10:22] I'm trying to register with freenode in order to use #python but I can't work it out [10:23] if anyone is in the kings cross area this afternoon at 3PM there is a show and tell thing at the guardian for the rewired state south by south west hackday [10:23] AlanBell: http://www.rocketstore.co.uk/shop/product.asp?numRecordPosition=1&P_ID=250&strPageHistory=cat&strKeywords=&SearchFor=&PT_ID=116 [10:23] not sure if issyl0 is involved in this one [10:23] !register [10:23] Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode [10:24] cheers lubotu3 [10:24] daubers: I used to be involved in a fireworks company (only around november time) I did all the electro-dets [10:24] \o/ [10:24] iandiandi_: lubotu3 is a bot :) [10:24] AlanBell: I used to build model rockets :) === Guest41287 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest60735 [10:36] czajkowski: Shell -> New Window -> Pro [10:47] iandiandi: is it not working? [10:49] AlanBell: thanks got it now. I was trying to use Empathy at first and it doesn't seem to allow registration. On xchat now [10:52] if I pair a bluetooth headset with Ubuntu, what interesting things can I do with it? [10:53] AlanBell: you can use it to call people using empathy [10:53] hla [10:53] *hola [10:53] AlanBell: you can look like an idiot, wearing a bluetooth headset ;) [10:53] AlanBell: (you know those people talking to thin air) [10:55] * AlanBell gets it working with pulse [10:55] * AlanBell puts MartijnVdS on /ignore ;) [10:55] AlanBell: it's all plug/click and play [10:55] * Myrtti has a Nokia bluetooth bobble that can be used with any headsets [10:55] AlanBell: I have one of these: http://www.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=508754 [10:56] AlanBell: Attaches to the amplifier :) [11:02] MartijnVdS: you can look like an idiot - HAHA [11:03] nigelb: that's the thing bluetooth headsets are best at ;) [11:04] MartijnVdS: heh, I agree though. [11:04] so do I actually [11:04] but having lost my streak I am on an old handset with a somewhat broken microphone [11:05] AlanBell: Dell Streak? [11:05] so I got a headset to make me sound better, and look worse [11:05] "lost" [11:05] :) [11:05] Also, 'lost'? [11:05] yeah [11:05] * nigelb waves to popey [11:06] * AlanBell wonders what handsets will be available on June 11th [11:06] What's special on June 11? [11:06] I get an upgrade on the contract [11:06] * MartijnVdS guesses a contract renewal [11:06] I thought it was your birthday :p [11:06] it is a rolling 24 month contract with upgrades every 12 months [11:06] aah [11:07] my birthday is on the 16th June [11:07] * nigelb lives a more peaceful life re: phone [11:08] * AlanBell will be 100100 [11:08] hah [11:08] AlanBell: ah, 24 :) [11:09] no no, 19 [11:09] nigelb: no, 0x24 [11:09] ah [11:10] 44 in octal [11:11] these days i much prefer buying my own phones rather than getting one with a contract, the freedom is worth it :) [11:11] gord++ [11:11] * MartijnVdS loves his contract-free Nexus One [11:11] if they'd only upgrade it to 2.3 :\ [11:11] *shakes fist at Google* [11:11] MartijnVdS: get the daily builds [11:12] my colleague runs a daily build on his nexus one [11:12] nigelb: I want official builds [11:12] i'v lost interest in 2.3 now.. honestly you can get the home screen and the keyboard on the android market these days. apart from that what do you want? [11:12] I think he uses the cyanogen one [11:13] nigelb: yeah I'm not using that.. [11:13] for several reasons :) [11:14] MartijnVdS: heh [11:24] * dutchie wants a better phone :( === Guest60735 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest83222 === RHCSAMatt is now known as SuperMatt [11:53] morning everyone. [11:55] morning brobostigon [11:55] morning Pendulum [11:56] \o [11:56] o/ [11:56] \o/ [11:56] < there must be a way to do the YMCA here [11:57] nah [11:59] \o/ /o\ o= ô ? [11:59] not perfect, but pretty close [11:59] pretty good [12:07] Pendulum: you could try using one of these: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%C3%B4 [12:08] Joeb454: I did === monsterkiller is now known as MonsterKiller [12:09] Pendulum: ah, must be my terminal deciding unicode isn't worthy [12:09] * Joeb454 investigates [12:13] o/ === Guest83222 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest27185 [12:33] AlanBell: I'm not, sadly. I didn't sign up in time. I'll be at the presentations though - wouldn't miss at least part of an RS event for the world! [12:34] issyl0: the G&T cake was great [12:34] AlanBell: you lucky thing! [12:34] you need to try and get Emma to make that again [12:34] AlanBell: I'll try! [12:35] are you doing the hack the government one? [12:36] AlanBell: yes - I was the first to sign up for that :P [12:36] oh yeah, you said :) [12:36] * AlanBell has the memory of a goldfish [12:37] * Pendulum just parsed that completely wrong and nearly asked "what goldfish?" [12:37] Pendulum: /dev/goldfish [12:38] Pendulum: oh dear :P [12:38] chuggachugga says the little home server and renders minecraft maps, again [12:39] * Pendulum is still fighting against buying minecraft [12:39] it may be a losing battle, but I'm not sure yet [12:39] FUTILE! [12:40] one of my mates has taken to showing me the map she plays on almost every time we chat on skype :-/ [12:41] * brobostigon doesnt have a machine capable of running minecraft apparently.so doesnt need to worry. [12:42] Pendulum: resistance is futile [12:42] the borg* [12:51] brobostigon: They'll get bored of it eventually [12:52] daubers: maybe, like most things, [12:53] I have to say that minecraft has managed to keep more people I know occupied longer than most things [12:54] starship titanic, keptme occupied for years, untill i solved and finsihed it. [12:56] 26 [12:56] Er. [12:56] issyl0: 42 [12:56] :) [12:56] lol [12:56] Pendulum: There are things like Age of Empires. [12:56] issyl0: thats hhgttg. [12:57] Eh? [12:57] Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy [12:57] Ah. [12:58] * issyl0 has never seen it. Or Star Wars. [12:58] * issyl0 != geek. [12:59] issyl0: I beg to differ. You are on IRC. You are a geek :) [12:59] http://www.starshiptitanic.com/ [12:59] issyl0 == geek [12:59] evaluates to True [12:59] issyl0: you need to read hitchhikers guide the galaxy :P [12:59] AlanBell: I agree. [13:00] AlanBell: Now we know what to gift issyl0 at her next birthday. [13:00] and the book first before the movie [13:00] nigelb: hehe, alright :) [13:00] AlanBell: thanks [13:01] :P [13:01] issyl0: And read Dirk Gently too! Far better than H2G2 IMHO [13:01] daubers: true, but people reference H2G2 more [13:01] issyl0: Also, you can skip the h2g2 movie, just read all the books ;) [13:02] * issyl0 has to go. [13:02] I'll chat later. [13:02] AlanBell: see you later :) [13:02] What I love best is this http://lmgtfy.com/?q=answer+to+life+the+universe+and+everything [13:02] and get a copy of the dirk gently tv prog the bbc made. [13:03] brobostigon: so the BBC dirk gently is worth watching? [13:03] Hmm. My 10.04 LTS installation, I just noticed, did not install the PAE kernel even though I have 8GB RAM. Simple fix, but.. surprised I had to do it at all. [13:03] Pendulum: definatly, it was really good. [13:04] Pendulum: i have a copy here, courtasy of get_iplayer. they only made a single episode. [13:06] hcfd, sure you didn't have the 64-bit version? [13:07] gord: Positive. Also, only 4GB seen. [13:07] although maybe 10.04 didn't do it automatically, i can't remember that far back! [13:07] I think even 9.10 is supposed to (server version) [13:08] Well, gotta reboot and compile a module from a patchwork quilt. *fingers crossed* [13:09] issyl0: I can't go to this one [13:09] i know my 32 bit install of natty did [13:21] afternoon [13:21] Mornin' [13:23] Got a weird problem with a daap share. I use Rhythmbox to connect, but one of the artists is missing from the list. I've tried all sorts of restarts; mt-daap, and rhythmbox, deleting caches, etc, and rescanning the audio list using firefly web-front end, still the artist is missing. === em is now known as emma [13:27] Afternoon [13:29] ...just going to try a test, from another computer. === LjL-Temp` is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest64955 === emma is now known as em [13:41] Mornin' emma [13:43] * daubers nips out to grab some lunch [13:48] That didn't work, still missing an artist from daap share :-/ === Guest64955 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest21831 [14:15] damned permissions! Fixed it, didn't have read permission set. [14:37] Where do you buy a i3 2100 in the UK? === Guest21831 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest12700 [15:23] I'm not sure if it's a good thing or a bad thing that the huge majority of #empathy hashtags on Twitter are about the 'normal' meaning of the word, rather than the software [15:25] BigRedS: are you aware of Help -> Debug? [15:25] (from the contact list) [15:26] dutchie: nope. Awesome! Cheers! [15:26] np [15:28] * BigRedS should turn to IRC before Twitter in future :) === Guest12700 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest12124 [16:24] How does one cut out a peice of an audio file with Jokosher? [16:32] [Kwabena Aning] LaTeX editors - http://blog.kaning.co.uk/archives/253 [16:41] has anyone noticed with youtube recently, I'll start watching a video and it'll stream way too slowly, like 20KB/sec and it'll continually stop to buffer [16:41] then you hit refresh and it zooms up to 500KB/sec and works fine [16:57] youtube is constantly just rubbish for me [16:58] sounds like it is working as designed then exobuzz [16:58] hehe [16:59] Azelphur, btw, i have xbmc working nicely now on ubuntu maverick etc. in case you use your joggler still : [16:59] :) even [16:59] cool :D [16:59] I need to get it going again but still not sure what to do about storage [17:00] it nuked those microsd's so fast lol [17:00] and I don't want a huge external USB device [17:00] small usb stick ? [17:00] any recommendations? :D [17:00] ive got a couple of http://www.amazon.co.uk/Super-Talent-8GB-Pico-C-Chrome/dp/B001BAW7P4 [17:00] sanddisk [17:01] they write at about 8-10mb/second and read at 25mb ish [17:01] exobuzz: got a photo of what that looks like in the joggler? looks like it'd sticko ut :( [17:01] it sticks out a bit.. like 1.5cm [17:02] http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3832397/Photos/December%202010/IMG_20101208_021003.jpg [17:02] you could try maybe http://www.lacie.com/us/products/product.htm?pid=11546 if you want even smaller. slower though [17:02] my micro usb readers looked so cool [17:02] I have a usb hub plugged into mine. That hides under the stand so memory and kb connections are out of sight [17:02] i prefer some speed and sticking out a bit [17:02] bigcalm, yeh that works nicely too [17:02] exobuzz: it's for a clock, so speed isn't an issue ;) [17:03] once it boots it'll just sit there. [17:03] Read only filesystem is even an option [17:03] you should use it for more than a clock. heh [17:03] i mean you could watch iplayer on it or something [17:03] exobuzz: well I was thinking a mythtv enabled alarm clock [17:03] or stream porn. i mean videos [17:04] Azelphur: did you try out http://idophp.co.uk/projects/touch_alarm/ [17:04] bigcalm: that's nothing compared to my joggleclock :o [17:04] xbmc looks great on it. nice to have it working again [17:04] bigcalm: did you look at my photo [17:04] * bigcalm looks [17:04] also no full screen hacks. i patched up the xbmc code to work properly with touchscreen in fullscreen mode [17:04] I haven't played with it for a long time. Does all that I want it to do [17:04] I see, very nice [17:04] :D [17:05] http://joggler.exotica.org.uk/source/xbmc/ (fyi) [17:05] i still need to set upo my bed joggler to use your clock [17:05] bigcalm: the activity log displays highlights/ims and the counters in the middle work apart from the unread email one, the weather works too. It's conky :) [17:05] Azelphur, is your clock stuff public ? [17:05] exobuzz: it's just conky [17:05] your config though [17:05] I think I lost it when my microsd died :( [17:05] * Azelphur has a nose around [17:05] *cough* backups [17:06] yup, that's where I put it, got it all here :P [17:07] exobuzz: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3832397/misc/Feburary%202011/Joggleclock.zip it's complete and utter crap :D [17:07] thanks. ill take a look [17:07] : [17:08] :) [17:08] bigcalm, tried out h/w acc video decoding ? [17:08] its pretty cool to see 1080p h264 video playing on the joggler with 15% cpu usage [17:08] (downscaled to 800x480 of course heh) [17:10] Really? [17:10] yeh [17:10] I haven't done anything with it for months [17:10] Work got in the way === Guest12124 is now known as LjL-Temp [17:11] Speaking of which. I should switch to the work station and finish off a Drupal skin :( === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest16286 [17:11] works with latest emgd. http://joggler.exotica.org.uk/mint/ has it pre-installed [17:11] mplayer -va vaapi -vo vaapi /path/to/video.mkv for example [17:12] Ta :) [17:12] work stuff ? ive done a couple of drupal sites. i was mostly impressed with drupal [17:12] I'm more of a backend coder [17:12] Messing with CSS is a PitA [17:13] with drupal, i have to use semantic views module or i lose my mind with all the bloat views makes [17:14] but i liked that it didnt take too long with drupal for example to do some custom modules etc and i like how everthing is split into modules [17:15] It's very versatile === denny- is now known as denny [18:11] sup [19:21] hi all [19:23] is there a fairly secure way to control an ubuntu installation remotely from another ubuntu installation? [19:26] pr0ph3t: !ssh [19:26] !ssh [19:26] SSH is the Secure SHell protocol, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH for client usage. PuTTY is an SSH client for Windows; see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ for it's homepage. See also !scp (Secure CoPy) and !sshd (Secure SHell Daemon) [19:27] moreati, I thought you couldn't nowdays with routers? [19:27] thanks by the way [19:27] pr0ph3t: ssh works over tcp, and hence through routers. Do you mean NAT? [19:34] moreati, I mean I can't connect to his ip because it's simply a local ip, but I can't connect to the gateway ip either right? [19:35] pr0ph3t: right, you did mean NAT. [19:35] moreati, sorry I didn't know I did mean that :P [19:36] pr0ph3t: What are you trying to accomplish - beyond connecting to this remote PC? [19:37] moreati, my dad is really bad with computers and lives abroad and he needs me to manage some things remotely [19:38] I will have to gain root access which is quite unsafe right? [19:39] I'll need tunneling? [19:39] pr0ph3t: 2 ways. 1) Have him install sshd, create a user account and open ports on his NAT router. 2) Both install Skype or Empathy and use desktop sharing [19:39] moreati, installing skype and empathy is exactly what he's trying to do now and can't do :P [19:40] pr0ph3t: Installing sshd and opening ports is likely to be an even greater challenge [19:41] moreati, skype is not in the repos [19:41] I'm giving him commands to paste in the console [19:41] sudo apt-get install sshd [19:41] pr0ph3t: yes it is, on 10.10 at least, and Empathy is installed out of the box [20:13] hi all... iv just had a total memory block i can not think how to SSH to com1 ... [20:13] any help [20:13] "com1"? [20:13] do you mean the serial port? [20:13] a serial port [20:13] es [20:13] yes [20:13] SSH is the wrong program, but I know what you mean :) [20:13] look at "minicom" [20:16] yep thats the prog ... im glad someone knew what i ment [20:16] :) [20:18] i am liking the unity now in 11.04 alpha 2 [20:18] what do you guys think to it [20:58] AlanBell: :D === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away === issyl0 is now known as Guest53231 === MonsterKiller is now known as monsterkiller