| xyclo__ | Hi ailo | 03:52 |
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| ailo | Hi xyclo | 03:53 |
| ailo | Having some nick difficulties. | 03:53 |
| ailo | I would like to change it to ailo.at, which is my launchpad name, but the dot won't work :( | 03:53 |
| === ailo is now known as ailo_at | ||
| persia | ailo_at, You could try ailo·at | 03:56 |
| ailo_at | persia: Maybe too difficult to write? | 03:58 |
| persia | Heh. Depends on your keymap, I suppose. | 03:59 |
| ailo_at | Swedish keymaps aren't that great sometimes | 03:59 |
| ailo_at | Or, keymap | 03:59 |
| xyclo | hey, ever used yoshimi? | 04:00 |
| ailo_at | I tried yoshimi the first time today | 04:01 |
| xyclo | me too | 04:01 |
| ailo_at | Haven't really figured out what it does. | 04:01 |
| xyclo | remember the clicks I told you about, ailo_at? | 04:01 |
| xyclo | It seems it was Zyn all along | 04:02 |
| ailo_at | I was hearing some on Yoshimi, to tell you the truth | 04:02 |
| xyclo | hm | 04:02 |
| ailo_at | When changing notes rapidly on the keyboard, it sounds a little clicky | 04:02 |
| xyclo | you know my issue? | 04:02 |
| xyclo | Some weird scale setting is loaded | 04:02 |
| ailo_at | It's out of tune? | 04:03 |
| xyclo | I play a major scale in my midi keyboard | 04:03 |
| xyclo | and it plays like arabic | 04:03 |
| xyclo | more than out of tune! | 04:03 |
| xyclo | it's bizarre | 04:03 |
| xyclo | know a solution? | 04:03 |
| xyclo | I saved a setting from Zyn | 04:03 |
| xyclo | and loaded into Yosh | 04:03 |
| xyclo | and nothing | 04:04 |
| ailo_at | I don't know. Can't find any scale tuning. | 04:06 |
| xyclo | It's funny though, by now | 04:09 |
| xyclo | ailo_at: about the clicking when changing notes, it might be the sample itself. I did an organ on Zyn and the attack sound can be annoying, sort of like a click | 04:14 |
| xyclo | I am really hoping Yoshimi will let me get rid of the clicks... | 04:14 |
| ailo_at | xyclo: Did you add quick fade in fade out to the sample using a wave editor, or is it a ready sample? | 04:15 |
| xyclo | I have not sampled | 04:16 |
| xyclo | just preset bank | 04:16 |
| ailo_at | If the sample starts at a position other than 0, it is like to cause clicks. | 04:16 |
| xyclo | well, the clicks I am worried about are the random ones, caused by poor performance of Zyn. | 04:17 |
| ailo_at | Could be the synth is not handling the playback right, and adds clicks when playing new notes. | 04:17 |
| ailo_at | If the clicks happen in between notes, that would be strange too | 04:18 |
| xyclo | Yes, the ones I refer to now are in between notes, nothing to do but leave the Synth alone | 04:19 |
| xyclo | holstein reported he had issues with Zyn | 04:19 |
| xyclo | clicks | 04:19 |
| xyclo | and that Yoshimi did not have them | 04:19 |
| ailo_at | Or, maybe I confused myself now. What is in between notes? I was thinking of clicks that happen when the notes aren't changing | 04:20 |
| xyclo | but, the scale issue now... | 04:20 |
| xyclo | I am a bit confused myself | 04:21 |
| ailo_at | I'm making a sampler on puredata, and from my experience there, clicks will happen if fade in /fade out is not working right when starting or stopping notes. | 04:21 |
| xyclo | but, bottomline, Zyn was adding random clicks | 04:21 |
| xyclo | good luck with the samples, ailo_at | 04:34 |
| xyclo | I go to bed, it was a long day | 04:34 |
| holstein | ailo_at: i get some with yoshimi too | 04:40 |
| holstein | but not like zyn | 04:40 |
| ailo_at | It's too bad | 04:44 |
| ailo_at | Seems like a nice program | 04:45 |
| holstein | i can mostly get by withouth them | 04:45 |
| holstein | without* | 04:45 |
| holstein | i turn off the effects | 04:45 |
| holstein | and that helps | 04:45 |
| robertzaccour | hey yall | 07:05 |
| robertzaccour | what codecs and kernel tweaks do i need to make regular ubuntu like ubuntu studio? | 07:05 |
| paultag | robertzaccour: howdy, dude | 07:08 |
| robertzaccour | howdy | 07:08 |
| paultag | robertzaccour: ubuntu studio is almost totally stock ubuntu -- there are some things you can do to make it better suited, but really it's just a collection of settings and packages :) | 07:09 |
| robertzaccour | does anyone know how i can convert ubuntu to what ubuntu studio has as far as multi-media codecs and low-latency kernel goes? | 07:09 |
| paultag | robertzaccour: the -rt kernel, or lowlatency kernel rocks | 07:09 |
| robertzaccour | paultag, i think thats what i need | 07:09 |
| paultag | robertzaccour: the gstreamer package sets might be of use, and the -rt image might be what you need | 07:09 |
| paultag | robertzaccour: what are you trying to do? | 07:09 |
| robertzaccour | i have audio/video sync problems and a bit of lag when recording screencasts with cheese open | 07:09 |
| paultag | robertzaccour: you can actually install ubuntu studio from ubuntu | 07:09 |
| paultag | Oh, hurmm | 07:10 |
| robertzaccour | paultag, how? | 07:10 |
| paultag | robertzaccour: sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-desktop # :) | 07:10 |
| robertzaccour | paultag, would that be exactly the same thing? | 07:10 |
| robertzaccour | but then i still got all the other crap that can't be removed. i'd be best off starting fresh :) | 07:11 |
| paultag | robertzaccour: sure, but that's not really a big deal -- it's not like windows where this stuff gets clotted in a registery somewhere | 07:11 |
| robertzaccour | yes true | 07:11 |
| paultag | up to you, though | 07:12 |
| paultag | robertzaccour: but the basic stuff that might help is jack + -rt kernel | 07:12 |
| paultag | robertzaccour: you don't need all the packages, really | 07:12 |
| robertzaccour | whats that mean? | 07:12 |
| robertzaccour | i found a link for that kernel | 07:13 |
| robertzaccour | http://jackschnippes.freeunix.net/index.php/2010/11/04/lowlatency-kernel-and-realtime-kernel-for-ubuntu-10-10-maverick | 07:13 |
| robertzaccour | now i just need the multimedia packs | 07:13 |
| paultag | robertzaccour: aptitude search gstreamer | 07:14 |
| robertzaccour | paultag, i thought gstreamer is installed by default | 07:14 |
| robertzaccour | oh good idea | 07:14 |
| paultag | robertzaccour: well yeah, it is :) | 07:14 |
| paultag | robertzaccour: but it's a plugin system, you need the bits to stick in there | 07:14 |
| robertzaccour | if i install this stuff with xfce running it will be even more resource friendly | 07:15 |
| paultag | *cough* fluxbox *cough* | 07:15 |
| robertzaccour | haha | 07:19 |
| robertzaccour | i don't know how to configure fluxbox | 07:19 |
| robertzaccour | and why not openbox or enlightenment? | 07:19 |
| paultag | robertzaccour: because I maintain fluxbox :) | 07:20 |
| robertzaccour | oh ok | 07:20 |
| paultag | I'm about as biased as you get | 07:20 |
| robertzaccour | haha | 07:20 |
| robertzaccour | you admit it though | 07:20 |
| paultag | damn skippy I do | 07:20 |
| robertzaccour | did canonical make ubuntu studio? | 07:23 |
| paultag | robertzaccour: no | 07:23 |
| robertzaccour | is ubuntu studio pretty similar to mint? | 07:23 |
| robertzaccour | i know multimedia codecs but kernel? | 07:24 |
| paultag | robertzaccour: no, mint is quite different from ubuntu studio | 07:25 |
| paultag | robertzaccour: ubuntu studio is ubuntu | 07:25 |
| robertzaccour | i will have to wait til i get home to install ubuntu studio | 07:38 |
| robertzaccour | i'm at work atm and i'm on wireless on my laptop haha | 07:38 |
| robertzaccour | wait, is there a way possible to install without wired internet? i know used to no | 07:38 |
| robertzaccour | do i need wired internet to install alternate iso? | 07:43 |
| robertzaccour | hey | 07:53 |
| robertzaccour | look what i found https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu%20Studio%20Upgrade%20from%20Ubuntu | 07:53 |
| robertzaccour | tells how to upgrade from ubuntu to ubuntu studio one command | 07:53 |
| robertzaccour | oops sorry about that meant to paste the link | 08:03 |
| persia | No worries. It's the same software stack: you can switch back and forth whenever you like. | 08:04 |
| robertzaccour | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu%20Studio%20Upgrade%20from%20Ubuntu | 08:04 |
| robertzaccour | thats the link | 08:04 |
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| Phatsta | good day all | 11:23 |
| Phatsta | anyone here good at storage handling in linux? | 12:16 |
| Phatsta | trying to get vmware to access a raid volume but it's giving me the finger... | 12:17 |
| persia | If nobody answers here after a while, you might try #ubuntu | 12:20 |
| Phatsta | thanks persia, I'll do that :) | 12:43 |
| persia | Good luck. | 12:44 |
| ti4mi | hello | 19:20 |
| ti4mi | could someone help me getting external usb midi working? | 19:21 |
| gordonjcp | ti4mi: plug in midi adaptor, use midi adaptor | 19:21 |
| ti4mi | thanks for the response. | 19:22 |
| ti4mi | I can see the USB interface in jackcontrol connection | 19:22 |
| rlameiro | hummm | 19:22 |
| ti4mi | but no reaction when I press a key on the keybaord | 19:22 |
| rlameiro | did you connected it to some synth? | 19:22 |
| ailo_at | ti4mi: Are you using alsa or jack midi? | 19:32 |
| ti4mi | it appears in the ALSA midi tab | 19:38 |
| ti4mi | can I switch it to the jack midi? | 19:38 |
| holstein | theres a package i use | 19:38 |
| holstein | called adjmidid | 19:38 |
| holstein | SORRY | 19:38 |
| holstein | a2jmidid | 19:38 |
| holstein | a2jmidid - daemon for exposing legacy ALSA MIDI in JACK MIDI systems | 19:39 |
| holstein | sudo apt-get install a2jmidid | 19:39 |
| holstein | then you run it from the terminal | 19:39 |
| holstein | when jack is running | 19:39 |
| holstein | and you can route via a through port | 19:40 |
| ti4mi | that worked. I can now rout all soft midi devices: i.e. send signals from rosegarden to ZynSubAddFX | 19:45 |
| holstein | :) | 19:46 |
| ti4mi | but the external hardware keyboard does not appear | 19:46 |
| holstein | ti4mi: USB ? | 19:46 |
| ti4mi | and I do not receive signals | 19:46 |
| ti4mi | yes logilink usb midi cable | 19:46 |
| holstein | hmmm | 19:46 |
| holstein | ti4mi: do you see the logilink when you run lsusb ?? | 19:48 |
| holstein | ti4mi: is this 10.10? | 19:48 |
| ti4mi | it's 10.10 | 19:49 |
| holstein | ti4mi: maybe pastebin the output of | 19:52 |
| holstein | lspci | 19:52 |
| holstein | and | 19:52 |
| holstein | uname -a | 19:52 |
| holstein | lsusb | 19:53 |
| ti4mi | It's now here: | 19:57 |
| ti4mi | http://pastebin.com/0L1js9j3 | 19:57 |
| ti4mi | Thanks in advance for looking at it | 19:58 |
| holstein | sure | 19:59 |
| holstein | well, USB is otherwise working properly | 19:59 |
| holstein | im not seeing it at all | 20:00 |
| holstein | ti4mi: are you? | 20:00 |
| ti4mi | normally usb works well | 20:00 |
| holstein | ti4mi: is this something that has ever worked in linux? | 20:01 |
| ti4mi | is see the cable in alsa part of jack control | 20:01 |
| ti4mi | i do not know | 20:01 |
| holstein | ti4mi: OH, so you do see the cable showing in JACK | 20:01 |
| holstein | i forget where mine shows | 20:01 |
| holstein | BUT a2jmidid lets me connect what i need | 20:02 |
| ti4mi | there's been some other question in the forums on the device | 20:02 |
| holstein | theres another way to do it though i never tried it personally | 20:02 |
| holstein | let me reffer you to #opensourcemusicians | 20:03 |
| holstein | i dont do enough MIDI to really stay up on it | 20:03 |
| ailo_at | ti4mi: What device are we talking about? | 20:06 |
| holstein | ailo_at: the logilink | 20:06 |
| ti4mi | LogiLink USB midi cable | 20:06 |
| ti4mi | well, it's not explicitly stated on the package that it has Linux support | 20:07 |
| ailo_at | tim4mi: and it appears in the alsa tab, when running on default midi setting? | 20:07 |
| ti4mi | @ailo_at: yes | 20:07 |
| ailo_at | And you connect the keyboard to that device with a midi cablie? | 20:08 |
| holstein | showing up there is a good step* | 20:08 |
| ailo_at | cable* | 20:08 |
| ailo_at | Or, I see it has cable ends. But those go into the hardware keyboard, right? | 20:09 |
| ti4mi | @ailo_at: yes | 20:09 |
| holstein | i suppose you should double check that the unit is sending data | 20:09 |
| ailo_at | What program are you trying to use? | 20:09 |
| ti4mi | ZynSubAddFX | 20:10 |
| ti4mi | @holstein. how can I check that? | 20:11 |
| holstein | also, double check that the audio is routed properly | 20:11 |
| holstein | from zyn | 20:11 |
| holstein | check with the 'virtual keyboard' if you want | 20:11 |
| holstein | ti4mi: well, i deally, you would have a MIDI brain around | 20:11 |
| holstein | and can double check that its sending | 20:11 |
| holstein | other than that, you might just have to assume its working | 20:12 |
| ti4mi | sending from 'virtual keyboard to ZynSubAddFX works | 20:12 |
| holstein | cool | 20:12 |
| holstein | double check the MIDI routing then | 20:13 |
| holstein | make sure you have lines connecting the logilink to zyn | 20:13 |
| holstein | or to a2jmidid 's through port | 20:13 |
| ti4mi | yes go that | 20:13 |
| ailo_at | ti4mi: You might want to check that the hardware keyboard is set to channel 1 | 20:14 |
| holstein | yeah, or 'send on all channels' just for testing | 20:14 |
| ailo_at | I'm trying to see if there is a utlity for midi, just to catch input. I know I saw something about that. Puredata has that | 20:15 |
| holstein | rosegarden might | 20:15 |
| holstein | qsynth if you're just looking for a light | 20:15 |
| holstein | for activity | 20:15 |
| holstein | BUT, zyn is a good test too i think | 20:15 |
| ailo_at | How about qmidiroute? | 20:18 |
| ti4mi | will see that. | 20:19 |
| ailo_at | ti4mi: Install qmidiroute, start it and connect your midi device to it. | 20:19 |
| ti4mi | the thing is I got the keyboard once working with a old LPT connector. on an old combuter... | 20:19 |
| ailo_at | It will show all midi events | 20:19 |
| ti4mi | perfect thanks | 20:20 |
| holstein | yeah | 20:20 |
| * holstein makes a note of qmidiroute | 20:20 | |
| holstein | sounds handy | 20:20 |
| ti4mi | appreciate your help | 20:21 |
| ailo_at | Here's an example from me playing with the virtual keyboard http://imagebin.org/137756 | 20:22 |
| holstein | yeah, thats nice :) | 20:22 |
| ti4mi | ok, got that now. when connecting virtual keybard to qmidiroute I can see the same as on your picture | 20:27 |
| ti4mi | but when I play the keyboard, nothing appears | 20:28 |
| ti4mi | so it does either not send midi signals or they do net get received well | 20:28 |
| ailo_at | ti4mi: Then either your keyboard is not working, or the device isn't. You don't have something else to try stick into that cable? | 20:28 |
| ti4mi | i have a effects processor with midi in and out | 20:29 |
| holstein | ti4mi: try that | 20:29 |
| holstein | just to make sure the thing is sending | 20:30 |
| ti4mi | I do not know on where to rout it though | 20:30 |
| holstein | IF you dont use it that way often | 20:30 |
| holstein | i know some of those parameters can be challenging to find | 20:30 |
| holstein | and edit | 20:30 |
| ailo_at | ti4mi: Have you had the logilink working before? | 20:30 |
| ti4mi | nope, i am just diving into midi audio stuff. the thing was a present... | 20:31 |
| holstein | ti4mi: sweet :) | 20:32 |
| ailo_at | ti4Mi: One thing that can be confusing on some midi devices is that "IN" goes to the input. | 20:33 |
| ailo_at | Did you try switching cables? | 20:33 |
| ailo_at | I mean that "IN" is not the input, but is to be connected to an input. | 20:34 |
| ailo_at | I have a device with this smart arrangement | 20:34 |
| ailo_at | The logilink should work out of the box, if it's not damaged. It doesn't need any drivers on any system. | 20:37 |
| ti4mi | B-) how embarrassing and stupidly simple. | 20:43 |
| ti4mi | the midi jack on the logilink has written IN => on it | 20:44 |
| ailo_at | Yeah, it's frustrating how stupid they make those things :) | 20:44 |
| ailo_at | ti4mi: So, it's working now? | 20:45 |
| ti4mi | so I connected it to INPUT outlet on the keyboard. first logic ;-) idea | 20:45 |
| ti4mi | so after you send your idea I changed both and put IN together with OUTPUT on the keyboard and now ZynSubAddFX produces sound by pressing keys on the hardware keyboard | 20:47 |
| ailo_at | ti4mi: Good to hear. | 20:47 |
| ti4mi | ;-) they'd probably put the wrong connector on the wrong cable ends. It's just that you always ask yourself: did I connect the hardware correctly (which I in theory did). We did thing that hardware could also be wrong. | 20:56 |
| ti4mi | The essence in audio: 1) Ubuntu studio works out of the box with cheap devices 2) same as with equipment-only set-ups, always check that the hardware is working as expected first | 20:56 |
| ti4mi | thanks, guy for help and patience. | 20:57 |
| ti4mi | hello is there something like a mpc groovebox emulator on linux | 21:51 |
| ti4mi | ? | 21:51 |
| holstein | ti4mi: what does that do? | 21:53 |
| ailo | Some kind of looping software, you mean? | 21:53 |
| holstein | OH | 21:53 |
| holstein | yeah, i remember now :) | 21:53 |
| ti4mi | a simplyfied sampler, yes | 21:53 |
| ailo | sooperlooper seems pretty good | 21:54 |
| holstein | sooperlooper is nice | 21:54 |
| holstein | analog though | 21:54 |
| holstein | i think seq24 would be a simple sequencer like that | 21:55 |
| holstein | with more options | 21:55 |
| holstein | well, not analog | 21:55 |
| holstein | for audio | 21:55 |
| holstein | rlameiro: ping | 22:36 |
| rlameiro | wow, that was fast :D | 22:36 |
| rlameiro | holstein: pong | 22:37 |
| holstein | hehe | 22:37 |
| holstein | you have some time for some testing? | 22:37 |
| holstein | netjack testing? | 22:37 |
| rlameiro | hummmm | 22:37 |
| holstein | and possible colaboration there after | 22:37 |
| rlameiro | how? se if i can ear? | 22:37 |
| holstein | well, i need to RTFM a bit | 22:37 |
| holstein | and see how to get celt working | 22:38 |
| rlameiro | I would need to reboot into kxstudio | 22:38 |
| holstein | rlameiro: not now | 22:38 |
| rlameiro | and look at it | 22:38 |
| rlameiro | nver tried out netjack | 22:38 |
| holstein | we can schedule something | 22:38 |
| holstein | i need to re-try netjack | 22:38 |
| rlameiro | for me its fine | 22:38 |
| holstein | its been months | 22:38 |
| rlameiro | during next week maybe | 22:38 |
| holstein | since ive even used it locally | 22:38 |
| holstein | rlameiro: what about next friday? | 22:39 |
| holstein | loosely? | 22:39 |
| holstein | the 25th? | 22:39 |
| rlameiro | maybe... | 22:39 |
| holstein | thats about the next free time i have | 22:39 |
| rlameiro | not sure, but it seems possible | 22:39 |
| holstein | actually | 22:39 |
| holstein | i could make some time thursday evening | 22:39 |
| holstein | about this time on thursday | 22:40 |
| rlameiro | ok, i will try | 22:40 |
| holstein | cool | 22:40 |
| rlameiro | :D | 22:40 |
| holstein | if i see you around thursday | 22:40 |
| holstein | i'll ping you | 22:40 |
| rlameiro | let me put it on my calendar | 22:40 |
| holstein | and we can geek out a bit | 22:40 |
| holstein | i'll put it in my book too | 22:40 |
| holstein | rlameiro: the idea is | 22:41 |
| holstein | IF we can connect | 22:41 |
| holstein | kinda lo-fi | 22:41 |
| holstein | to hear each other | 22:41 |
| holstein | and record on both ends | 22:41 |
| holstein | high quality | 22:41 |
| holstein | you can email me yours or vice versa | 22:41 |
| rlameiro | oh.... you want me to play? | 22:42 |
| holstein | rlameiro: well, eventually | 22:42 |
| rlameiro | that is way late over here to play | 22:42 |
| holstein | not that time | 22:42 |
| rlameiro | i live on an apartment :( | 22:42 |
| holstein | that can just be proof of concept | 22:42 |
| rlameiro | yea, we could test it for other day | 22:42 |
| rlameiro | :D | 22:42 |
| rlameiro | exactly | 22:42 |
| holstein | :) | 22:42 |
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