[03:52] Hi ailo === xyclo__ is now known as xyclo [03:53] Hi xyclo [03:53] Having some nick difficulties. [03:53] I would like to change it to ailo.at, which is my launchpad name, but the dot won't work :( === ailo is now known as ailo_at [03:56] ailo_at, You could try ailo·at [03:58] persia: Maybe too difficult to write? [03:59] Heh. Depends on your keymap, I suppose. [03:59] Swedish keymaps aren't that great sometimes [03:59] Or, keymap [04:00] hey, ever used yoshimi? [04:01] I tried yoshimi the first time today [04:01] me too [04:01] Haven't really figured out what it does. [04:01] remember the clicks I told you about, ailo_at? [04:02] It seems it was Zyn all along [04:02] I was hearing some on Yoshimi, to tell you the truth [04:02] hm [04:02] When changing notes rapidly on the keyboard, it sounds a little clicky [04:02] you know my issue? [04:02] Some weird scale setting is loaded [04:03] It's out of tune? [04:03] I play a major scale in my midi keyboard [04:03] and it plays like arabic [04:03] more than out of tune! [04:03] it's bizarre [04:03] know a solution? [04:03] I saved a setting from Zyn [04:03] and loaded into Yosh [04:04] and nothing [04:06] I don't know. Can't find any scale tuning. [04:09] It's funny though, by now [04:14] ailo_at: about the clicking when changing notes, it might be the sample itself. I did an organ on Zyn and the attack sound can be annoying, sort of like a click [04:14] I am really hoping Yoshimi will let me get rid of the clicks... [04:15] xyclo: Did you add quick fade in fade out to the sample using a wave editor, or is it a ready sample? [04:16] I have not sampled [04:16] just preset bank [04:16] If the sample starts at a position other than 0, it is like to cause clicks. [04:17] well, the clicks I am worried about are the random ones, caused by poor performance of Zyn. [04:17] Could be the synth is not handling the playback right, and adds clicks when playing new notes. [04:18] If the clicks happen in between notes, that would be strange too [04:19] Yes, the ones I refer to now are in between notes, nothing to do but leave the Synth alone [04:19] holstein reported he had issues with Zyn [04:19] clicks [04:19] and that Yoshimi did not have them [04:20] Or, maybe I confused myself now. What is in between notes? I was thinking of clicks that happen when the notes aren't changing [04:20] but, the scale issue now... [04:21] I am a bit confused myself [04:21] I'm making a sampler on puredata, and from my experience there, clicks will happen if fade in /fade out is not working right when starting or stopping notes. [04:21] but, bottomline, Zyn was adding random clicks [04:34] good luck with the samples, ailo_at [04:34] I go to bed, it was a long day [04:40] ailo_at: i get some with yoshimi too [04:40] but not like zyn [04:44] It's too bad [04:45] Seems like a nice program [04:45] i can mostly get by withouth them [04:45] without* [04:45] i turn off the effects [04:45] and that helps [07:05] hey yall [07:05] what codecs and kernel tweaks do i need to make regular ubuntu like ubuntu studio? [07:08] robertzaccour: howdy, dude [07:08] howdy [07:09] robertzaccour: ubuntu studio is almost totally stock ubuntu -- there are some things you can do to make it better suited, but really it's just a collection of settings and packages :) [07:09] does anyone know how i can convert ubuntu to what ubuntu studio has as far as multi-media codecs and low-latency kernel goes? [07:09] robertzaccour: the -rt kernel, or lowlatency kernel rocks [07:09] paultag, i think thats what i need [07:09] robertzaccour: the gstreamer package sets might be of use, and the -rt image might be what you need [07:09] robertzaccour: what are you trying to do? [07:09] i have audio/video sync problems and a bit of lag when recording screencasts with cheese open [07:09] robertzaccour: you can actually install ubuntu studio from ubuntu [07:10] Oh, hurmm [07:10] paultag, how? [07:10] robertzaccour: sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-desktop # :) [07:10] paultag, would that be exactly the same thing? [07:11] but then i still got all the other crap that can't be removed. i'd be best off starting fresh :) [07:11] robertzaccour: sure, but that's not really a big deal -- it's not like windows where this stuff gets clotted in a registery somewhere [07:11] yes true [07:12] up to you, though [07:12] robertzaccour: but the basic stuff that might help is jack + -rt kernel [07:12] robertzaccour: you don't need all the packages, really [07:12] whats that mean? [07:13] i found a link for that kernel [07:13] http://jackschnippes.freeunix.net/index.php/2010/11/04/lowlatency-kernel-and-realtime-kernel-for-ubuntu-10-10-maverick [07:13] now i just need the multimedia packs [07:14] robertzaccour: aptitude search gstreamer [07:14] paultag, i thought gstreamer is installed by default [07:14] oh good idea [07:14] robertzaccour: well yeah, it is :) [07:14] robertzaccour: but it's a plugin system, you need the bits to stick in there [07:15] if i install this stuff with xfce running it will be even more resource friendly [07:15] *cough* fluxbox *cough* [07:19] haha [07:19] i don't know how to configure fluxbox [07:19] and why not openbox or enlightenment? [07:20] robertzaccour: because I maintain fluxbox :) [07:20] oh ok [07:20] I'm about as biased as you get [07:20] haha [07:20] you admit it though [07:20] damn skippy I do [07:23] did canonical make ubuntu studio? [07:23] robertzaccour: no [07:23] is ubuntu studio pretty similar to mint? [07:24] i know multimedia codecs but kernel? [07:25] robertzaccour: no, mint is quite different from ubuntu studio [07:25] robertzaccour: ubuntu studio is ubuntu [07:38] i will have to wait til i get home to install ubuntu studio [07:38] i'm at work atm and i'm on wireless on my laptop haha [07:38] wait, is there a way possible to install without wired internet? i know used to no [07:43] do i need wired internet to install alternate iso? [07:53] hey [07:53] look what i found https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu%20Studio%20Upgrade%20from%20Ubuntu [07:53] tells how to upgrade from ubuntu to ubuntu studio one command [08:03] oops sorry about that meant to paste the link [08:04] No worries. It's the same software stack: you can switch back and forth whenever you like. [08:04] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu%20Studio%20Upgrade%20from%20Ubuntu [08:04] thats the link === Blank___ is now known as Blank__ [11:23] good day all [12:16] anyone here good at storage handling in linux? [12:17] trying to get vmware to access a raid volume but it's giving me the finger... [12:20] If nobody answers here after a while, you might try #ubuntu [12:43] thanks persia, I'll do that :) [12:44] Good luck. [19:20] hello [19:21] could someone help me getting external usb midi working? [19:21] ti4mi: plug in midi adaptor, use midi adaptor [19:22] thanks for the response. [19:22] I can see the USB interface in jackcontrol connection [19:22] hummm [19:22] but no reaction when I press a key on the keybaord [19:22] did you connected it to some synth? [19:32] ti4mi: Are you using alsa or jack midi? [19:38] it appears in the ALSA midi tab [19:38] can I switch it to the jack midi? [19:38] theres a package i use [19:38] called adjmidid [19:38] SORRY [19:38] a2jmidid [19:39] a2jmidid - daemon for exposing legacy ALSA MIDI in JACK MIDI systems [19:39] sudo apt-get install a2jmidid [19:39] then you run it from the terminal [19:39] when jack is running [19:40] and you can route via a through port [19:45] that worked. I can now rout all soft midi devices: i.e. send signals from rosegarden to ZynSubAddFX [19:46] :) [19:46] but the external hardware keyboard does not appear [19:46] ti4mi: USB ? [19:46] and I do not receive signals [19:46] yes logilink usb midi cable [19:46] hmmm [19:48] ti4mi: do you see the logilink when you run lsusb ?? [19:48] ti4mi: is this 10.10? [19:49] it's 10.10 [19:52] ti4mi: maybe pastebin the output of [19:52] lspci [19:52] and [19:52] uname -a [19:53] lsusb [19:57] It's now here: [19:57] http://pastebin.com/0L1js9j3 [19:58] Thanks in advance for looking at it [19:59] sure [19:59] well, USB is otherwise working properly [20:00] im not seeing it at all [20:00] ti4mi: are you? [20:00] normally usb works well [20:01] ti4mi: is this something that has ever worked in linux? [20:01] is see the cable in alsa part of jack control [20:01] i do not know [20:01] ti4mi: OH, so you do see the cable showing in JACK [20:01] i forget where mine shows [20:02] BUT a2jmidid lets me connect what i need [20:02] there's been some other question in the forums on the device [20:02] theres another way to do it though i never tried it personally [20:03] let me reffer you to #opensourcemusicians [20:03] i dont do enough MIDI to really stay up on it [20:06] ti4mi: What device are we talking about? [20:06] ailo_at: the logilink [20:06] LogiLink USB midi cable [20:07] well, it's not explicitly stated on the package that it has Linux support [20:07] tim4mi: and it appears in the alsa tab, when running on default midi setting? [20:07] @ailo_at: yes [20:08] And you connect the keyboard to that device with a midi cablie? [20:08] showing up there is a good step* [20:08] cable* [20:09] Or, I see it has cable ends. But those go into the hardware keyboard, right? [20:09] @ailo_at: yes [20:09] i suppose you should double check that the unit is sending data [20:09] What program are you trying to use? [20:10] ZynSubAddFX [20:11] @holstein. how can I check that? [20:11] also, double check that the audio is routed properly [20:11] from zyn [20:11] check with the 'virtual keyboard' if you want [20:11] ti4mi: well, i deally, you would have a MIDI brain around [20:11] and can double check that its sending [20:12] other than that, you might just have to assume its working [20:12] sending from 'virtual keyboard to ZynSubAddFX works [20:12] cool [20:13] double check the MIDI routing then [20:13] make sure you have lines connecting the logilink to zyn [20:13] or to a2jmidid 's through port [20:13] yes go that [20:14] ti4mi: You might want to check that the hardware keyboard is set to channel 1 [20:14] yeah, or 'send on all channels' just for testing [20:15] I'm trying to see if there is a utlity for midi, just to catch input. I know I saw something about that. Puredata has that [20:15] rosegarden might [20:15] qsynth if you're just looking for a light [20:15] for activity [20:15] BUT, zyn is a good test too i think [20:18] How about qmidiroute? [20:19] will see that. [20:19] ti4mi: Install qmidiroute, start it and connect your midi device to it. [20:19] the thing is I got the keyboard once working with a old LPT connector. on an old combuter... [20:19] It will show all midi events [20:20] perfect thanks [20:20] yeah [20:20] * holstein makes a note of qmidiroute [20:20] sounds handy [20:21] appreciate your help [20:22] Here's an example from me playing with the virtual keyboard http://imagebin.org/137756 [20:22] yeah, thats nice :) [20:27] ok, got that now. when connecting virtual keybard to qmidiroute I can see the same as on your picture [20:28] but when I play the keyboard, nothing appears [20:28] so it does either not send midi signals or they do net get received well [20:28] ti4mi: Then either your keyboard is not working, or the device isn't. You don't have something else to try stick into that cable? [20:29] i have a effects processor with midi in and out [20:29] ti4mi: try that [20:30] just to make sure the thing is sending [20:30] I do not know on where to rout it though [20:30] IF you dont use it that way often [20:30] i know some of those parameters can be challenging to find [20:30] and edit [20:30] ti4mi: Have you had the logilink working before? [20:31] nope, i am just diving into midi audio stuff. the thing was a present... [20:32] ti4mi: sweet :) [20:33] ti4Mi: One thing that can be confusing on some midi devices is that "IN" goes to the input. [20:33] Did you try switching cables? [20:34] I mean that "IN" is not the input, but is to be connected to an input. [20:34] I have a device with this smart arrangement [20:37] The logilink should work out of the box, if it's not damaged. It doesn't need any drivers on any system. [20:43] B-) how embarrassing and stupidly simple. [20:44] the midi jack on the logilink has written IN => on it [20:44] Yeah, it's frustrating how stupid they make those things :) [20:45] ti4mi: So, it's working now? [20:45] so I connected it to INPUT outlet on the keyboard. first logic ;-) idea [20:47] so after you send your idea I changed both and put IN together with OUTPUT on the keyboard and now ZynSubAddFX produces sound by pressing keys on the hardware keyboard [20:47] ti4mi: Good to hear. [20:56] ;-) they'd probably put the wrong connector on the wrong cable ends. It's just that you always ask yourself: did I connect the hardware correctly (which I in theory did). We did thing that hardware could also be wrong. [20:56] The essence in audio: 1) Ubuntu studio works out of the box with cheap devices 2) same as with equipment-only set-ups, always check that the hardware is working as expected first [20:57] thanks, guy for help and patience. [21:51] hello is there something like a mpc groovebox emulator on linux [21:51] ? [21:53] ti4mi: what does that do? [21:53] Some kind of looping software, you mean? [21:53] OH [21:53] yeah, i remember now :) [21:53] a simplyfied sampler, yes [21:54] sooperlooper seems pretty good [21:54] sooperlooper is nice [21:54] analog though [21:55] i think seq24 would be a simple sequencer like that [21:55] with more options [21:55] well, not analog [21:55] for audio [22:36] rlameiro: ping [22:36] wow, that was fast :D [22:37] holstein: pong [22:37] hehe [22:37] you have some time for some testing? [22:37] netjack testing? [22:37] hummmm [22:37] and possible colaboration there after [22:37] how? se if i can ear? [22:37] well, i need to RTFM a bit [22:38] and see how to get celt working [22:38] I would need to reboot into kxstudio [22:38] rlameiro: not now [22:38] and look at it [22:38] nver tried out netjack [22:38] we can schedule something [22:38] i need to re-try netjack [22:38] for me its fine [22:38] its been months [22:38] during next week maybe [22:38] since ive even used it locally [22:39] rlameiro: what about next friday? [22:39] loosely? [22:39] the 25th? [22:39] maybe... [22:39] thats about the next free time i have [22:39] not sure, but it seems possible [22:39] actually [22:39] i could make some time thursday evening [22:40] about this time on thursday [22:40] ok, i will try [22:40] cool [22:40] :D [22:40] if i see you around thursday [22:40] i'll ping you [22:40] let me put it on my calendar [22:40] and we can geek out a bit [22:40] i'll put it in my book too [22:41] rlameiro: the idea is [22:41] IF we can connect [22:41] kinda lo-fi [22:41] to hear each other [22:41] and record on both ends [22:41] high quality [22:41] you can email me yours or vice versa [22:42] oh.... you want me to play? [22:42] rlameiro: well, eventually [22:42] that is way late over here to play [22:42] not that time [22:42] i live on an apartment :( [22:42] that can just be proof of concept [22:42] yea, we could test it for other day [22:42] :D [22:42] exactly [22:42] :)