[03:52] <xyclo__> Hi ailo
[03:53] <ailo> Hi xyclo
[03:53] <ailo> Having some nick difficulties.
[03:53] <ailo> I would like to change it to ailo.at, which is my launchpad name, but the dot won't work :(
[03:56] <persia> ailo_at, You could try ailo·at
[03:58] <ailo_at> persia: Maybe too difficult to write?
[03:59] <persia> Heh.  Depends on your keymap, I suppose.
[03:59] <ailo_at> Swedish keymaps aren't that great sometimes
[03:59] <ailo_at> Or, keymap
[04:00] <xyclo> hey, ever used yoshimi?
[04:01] <ailo_at> I tried yoshimi the first time today
[04:01] <xyclo> me too
[04:01] <ailo_at> Haven't really figured out what it does.
[04:01] <xyclo> remember the clicks I told you about, ailo_at?
[04:02] <xyclo> It seems it was Zyn all along
[04:02] <ailo_at> I was hearing some on Yoshimi, to tell you the truth
[04:02] <xyclo> hm
[04:02] <ailo_at> When changing notes rapidly on the keyboard, it sounds a little clicky
[04:02] <xyclo> you know my issue?
[04:02] <xyclo> Some weird scale setting is loaded
[04:03] <ailo_at> It's out of tune?
[04:03] <xyclo> I play a major scale in my midi keyboard
[04:03] <xyclo> and it plays like arabic
[04:03] <xyclo> more than out of tune!
[04:03] <xyclo> it's bizarre
[04:03] <xyclo> know a solution?
[04:03] <xyclo> I saved a setting from Zyn
[04:03] <xyclo> and loaded into Yosh
[04:04] <xyclo> and nothing
[04:06] <ailo_at> I don't know. Can't find any scale tuning.
[04:09] <xyclo> It's funny though, by now
[04:14] <xyclo> ailo_at: about the clicking when changing notes, it might be the sample itself. I did an organ on Zyn and the attack sound can be annoying, sort of like a click
[04:14] <xyclo> I am really hoping Yoshimi will let me get rid of the clicks...
[04:15] <ailo_at> xyclo: Did you add quick fade in fade out to the sample using a wave editor, or is it a ready sample?
[04:16] <xyclo> I have not sampled
[04:16] <xyclo> just preset bank
[04:16] <ailo_at> If the sample starts at a position other than 0, it is like to cause clicks.
[04:17] <xyclo> well, the clicks I am worried about are the random ones, caused by poor performance of Zyn.
[04:17] <ailo_at> Could be the synth is not handling the playback right, and adds clicks when playing new notes.
[04:18] <ailo_at> If the clicks happen in between notes, that would be strange too
[04:19] <xyclo> Yes, the ones I refer to now are in between notes, nothing to do but leave the Synth alone
[04:19] <xyclo> holstein reported he had issues with Zyn
[04:19] <xyclo> clicks
[04:19] <xyclo> and that Yoshimi did not have them
[04:20] <ailo_at> Or, maybe I confused myself now. What is in between notes? I was thinking of clicks that happen when the notes aren't changing
[04:20] <xyclo> but, the scale issue now...
[04:21] <xyclo> I am a bit confused myself
[04:21] <ailo_at> I'm making a sampler on puredata, and from my experience there, clicks will happen if fade in /fade out is not working right when starting or stopping notes.
[04:21] <xyclo> but, bottomline, Zyn was adding random clicks
[04:34] <xyclo> good luck with the samples, ailo_at
[04:34] <xyclo> I go to bed, it was a long day
[04:40] <holstein> ailo_at: i get some with yoshimi too
[04:40] <holstein> but not like zyn
[04:44] <ailo_at> It's too bad
[04:45] <ailo_at> Seems like a nice program
[04:45] <holstein> i can mostly get by withouth them
[04:45] <holstein> without*
[04:45] <holstein> i turn off the effects
[04:45] <holstein> and that helps
[07:05] <robertzaccour> hey yall
[07:05] <robertzaccour> what codecs and kernel tweaks do i need to make regular ubuntu like ubuntu studio?
[07:08] <paultag> robertzaccour: howdy, dude
[07:08] <robertzaccour> howdy
[07:09] <paultag> robertzaccour: ubuntu studio is almost totally stock ubuntu -- there are some things you can do to make it better suited, but really it's just a collection of settings and packages :)
[07:09] <robertzaccour> does anyone know how i can convert ubuntu to what ubuntu studio has as far as multi-media codecs and low-latency kernel goes?
[07:09] <paultag> robertzaccour: the -rt kernel, or lowlatency kernel rocks
[07:09] <robertzaccour> paultag, i think thats what i need
[07:09] <paultag> robertzaccour: the gstreamer package sets might be of use, and the -rt image might be what you need
[07:09] <paultag> robertzaccour: what are you trying to do?
[07:09] <robertzaccour> i have audio/video sync problems and a bit of lag when recording screencasts with cheese open
[07:09] <paultag> robertzaccour: you can actually install ubuntu studio from ubuntu
[07:10] <paultag> Oh, hurmm
[07:10] <robertzaccour> paultag, how?
[07:10] <paultag> robertzaccour: sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-desktop # :)
[07:10] <robertzaccour> paultag, would that be exactly the same thing?
[07:11] <robertzaccour> but then i still got all the other crap that can't be removed. i'd be best off starting fresh :)
[07:11] <paultag> robertzaccour: sure, but that's not really a big deal -- it's not like windows where this stuff gets clotted in a registery somewhere
[07:11] <robertzaccour> yes true
[07:12] <paultag> up to you, though
[07:12] <paultag> robertzaccour: but the basic stuff that might help is jack + -rt kernel
[07:12] <paultag> robertzaccour: you don't need all the packages, really
[07:12] <robertzaccour> whats that mean?
[07:13] <robertzaccour> i found a link for that kernel
[07:13] <robertzaccour> http://jackschnippes.freeunix.net/index.php/2010/11/04/lowlatency-kernel-and-realtime-kernel-for-ubuntu-10-10-maverick
[07:13] <robertzaccour> now i just need the multimedia packs
[07:14] <paultag> robertzaccour: aptitude search gstreamer
[07:14] <robertzaccour> paultag, i thought gstreamer is installed by default
[07:14] <robertzaccour> oh good idea
[07:14] <paultag> robertzaccour: well yeah, it is :)
[07:14] <paultag> robertzaccour: but it's a plugin system, you need the bits to stick in there
[07:15] <robertzaccour> if i install this stuff with xfce running it will be even more resource friendly
[07:15] <paultag> *cough* fluxbox *cough*
[07:19] <robertzaccour> haha
[07:19] <robertzaccour> i don't know how to configure fluxbox
[07:19] <robertzaccour> and why not openbox or enlightenment?
[07:20] <paultag> robertzaccour: because I maintain fluxbox :)
[07:20] <robertzaccour> oh ok
[07:20] <paultag> I'm about as biased as you get
[07:20] <robertzaccour> haha
[07:20] <robertzaccour> you admit it though
[07:20] <paultag> damn skippy I do
[07:23] <robertzaccour> did canonical make ubuntu studio?
[07:23] <paultag> robertzaccour: no
[07:23] <robertzaccour> is ubuntu studio pretty similar to mint?
[07:24] <robertzaccour> i know multimedia codecs but kernel?
[07:25] <paultag> robertzaccour: no, mint is quite different from ubuntu studio
[07:25] <paultag> robertzaccour: ubuntu studio is ubuntu
[07:38] <robertzaccour> i will have to wait til i get home to install ubuntu studio
[07:38] <robertzaccour> i'm at work atm and i'm on wireless on my laptop haha
[07:38] <robertzaccour> wait, is there a way possible to install without wired internet? i know used to no
[07:43] <robertzaccour> do i need wired internet to install alternate iso?
[07:53] <robertzaccour> hey
[07:53] <robertzaccour> look what i found https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu%20Studio%20Upgrade%20from%20Ubuntu
[07:53] <robertzaccour> tells how to upgrade from ubuntu to ubuntu studio one command
[08:03] <robertzaccour> oops sorry about that meant to paste the link
[08:04] <persia> No worries.  It's the same software stack: you can switch back and forth whenever you like.
[08:04] <robertzaccour> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu%20Studio%20Upgrade%20from%20Ubuntu
[08:04] <robertzaccour> thats the link
[11:23] <Phatsta> good day all
[12:16] <Phatsta> anyone here good at storage handling in linux?
[12:17] <Phatsta> trying to get vmware to access a raid volume but it's giving me the finger...
[12:20] <persia> If nobody answers here after a while, you might try #ubuntu
[12:43] <Phatsta> thanks persia, I'll do that :)
[12:44] <persia> Good luck.
[19:20] <ti4mi> hello
[19:21] <ti4mi> could someone help me getting external usb midi working?
[19:21] <gordonjcp> ti4mi: plug in midi adaptor, use midi adaptor
[19:22] <ti4mi> thanks for the response.
[19:22] <ti4mi> I can see the USB interface in jackcontrol connection
[19:22] <rlameiro> hummm
[19:22] <ti4mi> but no reaction when I press a key on the keybaord
[19:22] <rlameiro> did you connected it to some synth?
[19:32] <ailo_at> ti4mi: Are you using alsa or jack midi?
[19:38] <ti4mi> it appears in the ALSA midi tab
[19:38] <ti4mi> can I switch it to the jack midi?
[19:38] <holstein> theres a package i use
[19:38] <holstein> called adjmidid
[19:38] <holstein> SORRY
[19:38] <holstein> a2jmidid
[19:39] <holstein> a2jmidid - daemon for exposing legacy ALSA MIDI in JACK MIDI systems
[19:39] <holstein> sudo apt-get install a2jmidid
[19:39] <holstein> then you run it from the terminal
[19:39] <holstein> when jack is running
[19:40] <holstein> and you can route via a through port
[19:45] <ti4mi> that worked. I can now rout all soft midi devices: i.e. send signals from rosegarden to ZynSubAddFX
[19:46] <holstein> :)
[19:46] <ti4mi> but the external hardware keyboard does not appear
[19:46] <holstein> ti4mi: USB ?
[19:46] <ti4mi> and I do not receive signals
[19:46] <ti4mi> yes logilink usb midi cable
[19:46] <holstein> hmmm
[19:48] <holstein> ti4mi: do you see the logilink when you run lsusb ??
[19:48] <holstein> ti4mi: is this 10.10?
[19:49] <ti4mi> it's 10.10
[19:52] <holstein> ti4mi: maybe pastebin the output of
[19:52] <holstein> lspci
[19:52] <holstein> and
[19:52] <holstein> uname -a
[19:53] <holstein> lsusb
[19:57] <ti4mi> It's now here:
[19:57] <ti4mi> http://pastebin.com/0L1js9j3
[19:58] <ti4mi> Thanks in advance for looking at it
[19:59] <holstein> sure
[19:59] <holstein> well, USB is otherwise working properly
[20:00] <holstein> im not seeing it at all
[20:00] <holstein> ti4mi: are you?
[20:00] <ti4mi> normally usb works well
[20:01] <holstein> ti4mi: is this something that has ever worked in linux?
[20:01] <ti4mi> is see the cable in alsa part of jack control
[20:01] <ti4mi> i do not know
[20:01] <holstein> ti4mi: OH, so you do see the cable showing in JACK
[20:01] <holstein> i forget where mine shows
[20:02] <holstein> BUT a2jmidid lets me connect what i need
[20:02] <ti4mi> there's been some other question in the forums on the device
[20:02] <holstein> theres another way to do it though i never tried it personally
[20:03] <holstein> let me reffer you to #opensourcemusicians
[20:03] <holstein> i dont do enough MIDI to really stay up on it
[20:06] <ailo_at> ti4mi: What device are we talking about?
[20:06] <holstein> ailo_at: the logilink
[20:06] <ti4mi> LogiLink USB midi cable
[20:07] <ti4mi> well, it's not explicitly stated on the package that it has Linux support
[20:07] <ailo_at> tim4mi: and it appears in the alsa tab, when running on default midi setting?
[20:07] <ti4mi> @ailo_at: yes
[20:08] <ailo_at> And you connect the keyboard to that device with a midi cablie?
[20:08] <holstein> showing up there is a good step*
[20:08] <ailo_at> cable*
[20:09] <ailo_at> Or, I see it has cable ends. But those go into the hardware keyboard, right?
[20:09] <ti4mi> @ailo_at: yes
[20:09] <holstein> i suppose you should double check that the unit is sending data
[20:09] <ailo_at> What program are you trying to use?
[20:10] <ti4mi>  ZynSubAddFX
[20:11] <ti4mi> @holstein. how can I check that?
[20:11] <holstein> also, double check that the audio is routed properly
[20:11] <holstein> from zyn
[20:11] <holstein> check with the 'virtual keyboard' if you want
[20:11] <holstein> ti4mi: well, i deally, you would have a MIDI brain around
[20:11] <holstein> and can double check that its sending
[20:12] <holstein> other than that, you might just have to assume its working
[20:12] <ti4mi> sending from 'virtual keyboard to  ZynSubAddFX works
[20:12] <holstein> cool
[20:13] <holstein> double check the MIDI routing then
[20:13] <holstein> make sure you have lines connecting the logilink to zyn
[20:13] <holstein> or to a2jmidid 's through port
[20:13] <ti4mi> yes go that
[20:14] <ailo_at> ti4mi: You might want to check that the hardware keyboard is set to channel 1
[20:14] <holstein> yeah, or 'send on all channels' just for testing
[20:15] <ailo_at> I'm trying to see if there is a utlity for midi, just to catch input. I know I saw something about that. Puredata has that
[20:15] <holstein> rosegarden might
[20:15] <holstein> qsynth if you're just looking for a light
[20:15] <holstein> for activity
[20:15] <holstein> BUT, zyn is a good test too i think
[20:18] <ailo_at> How about qmidiroute?
[20:19] <ti4mi> will see that.
[20:19] <ailo_at> ti4mi: Install qmidiroute, start it and connect your midi device to it.
[20:19] <ti4mi> the thing is I got the keyboard once working with a old LPT connector. on an old combuter...
[20:19] <ailo_at> It will show all midi events
[20:20] <ti4mi> perfect thanks
[20:20] <holstein> yeah
[20:20]  * holstein makes a note of qmidiroute
[20:20] <holstein> sounds handy
[20:21] <ti4mi> appreciate your help
[20:22] <ailo_at> Here's an example from me playing with the virtual keyboard http://imagebin.org/137756
[20:22] <holstein> yeah, thats nice :)
[20:27] <ti4mi> ok, got that now. when connecting virtual keybard to  qmidiroute I can see the same as on your picture
[20:28] <ti4mi> but when I play the keyboard, nothing appears
[20:28] <ti4mi> so it does either not send midi signals or they do net get received well
[20:28] <ailo_at> ti4mi: Then either your keyboard is not working, or the device isn't. You don't have something else to try stick into that cable?
[20:29] <ti4mi> i have a effects processor with midi in and out
[20:29] <holstein> ti4mi: try that
[20:30] <holstein> just to make sure the thing is sending
[20:30] <ti4mi> I do not know on where to rout it though
[20:30] <holstein> IF you dont use it that way often
[20:30] <holstein> i know some of those parameters can be challenging to find
[20:30] <holstein> and edit
[20:30] <ailo_at> ti4mi: Have you had the logilink working before?
[20:31] <ti4mi> nope, i am just diving into midi audio stuff. the thing was a present...
[20:32] <holstein> ti4mi: sweet :)
[20:33] <ailo_at> ti4Mi: One thing that can be confusing on some midi devices is that "IN" goes to the input.
[20:33] <ailo_at> Did you try switching cables?
[20:34] <ailo_at> I mean that "IN" is not the input, but is to be connected to an input.
[20:34] <ailo_at> I have a device with this smart arrangement
[20:37] <ailo_at> The logilink should work out of the box, if it's not damaged. It doesn't need any drivers on any system.
[20:43] <ti4mi> B-) how embarrassing and stupidly simple.
[20:44] <ti4mi> the midi jack on the logilink has written IN => on it
[20:44] <ailo_at> Yeah, it's frustrating how stupid they make those things :)
[20:45] <ailo_at> ti4mi: So, it's working now?
[20:45] <ti4mi> so I connected it to INPUT outlet on the keyboard. first logic ;-) idea
[20:47] <ti4mi> so after you send your idea I changed both and put IN together with OUTPUT on the keyboard and now  ZynSubAddFX produces sound by pressing keys on the hardware keyboard
[20:47] <ailo_at> ti4mi: Good to hear.
[20:56] <ti4mi> ;-) they'd probably put the wrong connector on the wrong cable ends. It's just that you always ask yourself: did I connect the hardware correctly (which I in theory did). We did thing that hardware could also be wrong.
[20:56] <ti4mi> The essence in audio: 1) Ubuntu studio works out of the box with cheap devices 2) same as with equipment-only set-ups, always check that the hardware is working as expected first
[20:57] <ti4mi> thanks, guy for help and patience.
[21:51] <ti4mi> hello is there something like a mpc groovebox emulator on linux
[21:51] <ti4mi> ?
[21:53] <holstein> ti4mi: what does that do?
[21:53] <ailo> Some kind of looping software, you mean?
[21:53] <holstein> OH
[21:53] <holstein> yeah, i remember now :)
[21:53] <ti4mi> a simplyfied sampler, yes
[21:54] <ailo> sooperlooper seems pretty good
[21:54] <holstein> sooperlooper is nice
[21:54] <holstein> analog though
[21:55] <holstein> i think seq24 would be a simple sequencer like that
[21:55] <holstein> with more options
[21:55] <holstein> well, not analog
[21:55] <holstein> for audio
[22:36] <holstein> rlameiro: ping
[22:36] <rlameiro> wow, that was fast :D
[22:37] <rlameiro> holstein: pong
[22:37] <holstein> hehe
[22:37] <holstein> you have some time for some testing?
[22:37] <holstein> netjack testing?
[22:37] <rlameiro> hummmm
[22:37] <holstein> and possible colaboration there after
[22:37] <rlameiro> how? se if i can ear?
[22:37] <holstein> well, i need to RTFM a bit
[22:38] <holstein> and see how to get celt working
[22:38] <rlameiro> I would need to reboot into kxstudio
[22:38] <holstein> rlameiro: not now
[22:38] <rlameiro> and look at it
[22:38] <rlameiro> nver tried out netjack
[22:38] <holstein> we can schedule something
[22:38] <holstein> i need to re-try netjack
[22:38] <rlameiro> for me its fine
[22:38] <holstein> its been months
[22:38] <rlameiro> during next week maybe
[22:38] <holstein> since ive even used it locally
[22:39] <holstein> rlameiro: what about next friday?
[22:39] <holstein> loosely?
[22:39] <holstein> the 25th?
[22:39] <rlameiro> maybe...
[22:39] <holstein> thats about the next free time i have
[22:39] <rlameiro> not sure, but it seems possible
[22:39] <holstein> actually
[22:39] <holstein> i could make some time thursday evening
[22:40] <holstein> about this time on thursday
[22:40] <rlameiro> ok, i will try
[22:40] <holstein> cool
[22:40] <rlameiro> :D
[22:40] <holstein> if i see you around thursday
[22:40] <holstein> i'll ping you
[22:40] <rlameiro> let me put it on my calendar
[22:40] <holstein> and we can geek out a bit
[22:40] <holstein> i'll put it in my book too
[22:41] <holstein> rlameiro: the idea is
[22:41] <holstein> IF we can connect
[22:41] <holstein> kinda lo-fi
[22:41] <holstein> to hear each other
[22:41] <holstein> and record on both ends
[22:41] <holstein> high quality
[22:41] <holstein> you can email me yours or vice versa
[22:42] <rlameiro> oh.... you want me to play?
[22:42] <holstein> rlameiro: well, eventually
[22:42] <rlameiro> that is way late over here to play
[22:42] <holstein> not that time
[22:42] <rlameiro> i live on an apartment :(
[22:42] <holstein> that can just be proof of concept
[22:42] <rlameiro> yea, we could test it for other day
[22:42] <rlameiro> :D
[22:42] <rlameiro> exactly
[22:42] <holstein> :)