[00:00] <metroid1> hi, does anyone here use talika (a gnome panel app)?  i just did a reinstall and decided to use xubuntu this time but i really want to use talika as well...
[00:01] <charlie-tca> You can install xfapplet and use gnome panel apps
[00:02] <metroid1> i have installed xfapplet but talika doesn't show up in the list... should i do anything else?
[00:02] <charlie-tca> you installed talika already?
[00:03] <charlie-tca> It might be a separate app too
[00:03] <metroid1> i did install it already
[00:03] <charlie-tca> I don't know then. Sorry
[00:03] <metroid1> but it isn't in the repos
[00:04] <charlie-tca> Anybody know how to make xfapplet see an applet that is not showing up?
[00:04] <charlie-tca> I'll ask...
[00:04] <metroid1> thanks
[00:09] <metroid1> i installed talika before i installed xfapplet but i then reinstalled it after but maybe i should do a complete uninstall and re-install just in case?
[00:09] <charlie-tca> Of course, now we wait too :-)
[00:09] <metroid1> :)
[01:35] <WACOMalt> Hello, anyone active?
[01:37] <WACOMalt> I am running Ubuntu 10.04 server with xfce, and for some reason am having some interesting issues... I am trying to set up automatic log in, and when I open the Login Settings, I cannot unlock the screen to chaneg the settings!
[01:37] <WACOMalt> clickging unlock does nothing
[01:38] <WACOMalt> running this as sudo from the command prompt is throwing MANY errors
[01:39] <WACOMalt> http://pastebin.com/XdFc17nL
[01:54] <metroid1> haha
[01:54] <metroid1> i did but i like eating all the time
[01:54] <metroid1> i made pizza toast
[01:55] <metroid1> it was ok but not awesome
[01:55] <metroid1> :D --sorry too many conversations happening at the same time but i am sure you are all glad to hear about my pizza toast.
[02:06] <lighta> yes
[02:06] <lighta> sound tasty =)
[02:39] <Graet> metroid1, pm me you recipie if its vegetarian :P
[02:39] <Graet> lmao
[02:39] <maestr0123> HI everyone!  I'm in need of help.
[02:39] <maestr0123> anyone out there not busy?
[02:40] <Graet> sorry, i'm more of a need help than give help type, only installed xubuntu yesterday ;)
[02:41] <maestr0123> well, that's ok, looks like we're in the same boat :-P
[02:41] <Graet> :)
[02:43] <maestr0123> Just installed xubuntu on a friend's computer.  He can't get his logitech webcam to work.  Any advice out there?  it would be greatly appreciated...
[02:46] <lighta> !ask | maestr0123
[02:47] <maestr0123> oh ok, sorry for my poor ettiquette
[02:47] <lighta> no problem =)
[02:48] <lighta> so what's your issue ?
[02:48] <maestr0123> does anyone know where i can find a driver for a logitech webcam?
[02:48] <lighta> what did you tryed already and wich one it is ?
[02:49] <maestr0123> which one it is, i don't know (it's a friend's)  i was hoping for maybe a list with pictures or a common one
[02:49] <lighta> something like that ? http://qce-ga.sourceforge.net/#supported ?
[02:50] <maestr0123> that just may do... thanks!
[02:50] <lighta> you welcom
[04:06] <WACOMalt> I am running Ubuntu 10.04 server with xfce, and for some reason am having some interesting issues... I am trying to set up automatic log in, and when I open the Login Settings, I cannot unlock the screen to chaneg the settings! Clickging unlock does nothing.  Running this as sudo from the command prompt is throwing MANY errors
[04:06] <WACOMalt> http://pastebin.com/XdFc17nL
[04:30] <David-A> WACOMalt: what happens when you try to unlock LoginScreenSettings in the gui as normal user?
[04:32] <robertzaccour> can i install gtk themes in xubuntu?
[04:34] <David-A> robertzaccour: i am quite sure you can, but i cant tell you how, right off my head
[04:34] <robertzaccour> ok thanks
[04:34] <robertzaccour> I'm looking for crunchbang theme for xfce so i can install it in xubuntu
[04:35] <WACOMalt> David-A: Nothing happens. Still greyed out, same error.
[04:35] <WACOMalt> tried installing full ubuntu-desktop package as someone suggested in the forums, with no luck
[04:36] <David-A> robertzaccour: i tweeked a theme by writing my own ~/.gtkrc-2.0, if you dl a theme i think you are supposed to copy it to ~/.themes/
[04:36] <WACOMalt> I mostly sounds like gdmsetup is an unfinished software.  I have got around this screen by setting up autologin in a different way.
[04:36] <WACOMalt> I have also fixed some dumb sudoers setup I had mixed up :P
[04:37] <WACOMalt> Also it seem accessing over VNC prevents a few different types of windows from working correctly, with some X errors about not being able to get the display.
[04:38] <David-A> WACOMalt: you mean Unlock accepts your password but does not unlock anything?
[04:40] <WACOMalt> David-A: I am never prompted for a password
[04:41] <WACOMalt> and nothing happens but throwing the same error as usual
[04:41] <WACOMalt> http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/07/13/automatically-log-into-xfce-without-a-login-manager/ I am currently trying to use this method instead.. Does that seem like a good idea?
[04:41] <WACOMalt> this is a headless server, just need in some fasion for the user "wacomalt" toget logged in and run his .bash_profile commands
[04:44] <David-A> WACOMalt: you want to run graphical programs remotly, or just remote terminal/ssh?
[04:44] <WACOMalt> currently I have both working, and I would like to keep it that way. I have SSH and VNC working. (vncserver gets started with the user's login)
[04:45] <robertzaccour> is xubuntu a lot faster with the new xfce than ubuntu is with the current gnome?
[04:45] <WACOMalt> I didnt really notice a difference
[04:45] <WACOMalt> but then I am on a remote computer anyways
[04:46] <metroid1> is there a way to make the panel task list icons only with no text?
[04:46] <David-A> WACOMalt: i dont know anything about VNC, sorry
[04:47] <WACOMalt> no problem. Basically it's just another program launching from my .bah_profile file
[04:47] <WACOMalt> and should be treated no differently
[04:48] <WACOMalt> This server is solely a LAMP+ftp and Minecraft server
[04:49] <David-A> metroid1: maybe tasklist>properties>fixedlength=(some low number, about the same as the panel hight)
[04:50] <metroid1> David-A: ah, yeah. but i have my panel on the side of my screen and it is fairly wide
[04:54] <David-A> metroid1: right, interesting: length sets hight
[04:54] <ball> wombat wombat wombat
[04:56] <WACOMalt> I really prefer managing server contents rather than the server itself T_T  I've literally been setting this server up all day. From 5am till now (9pm)  Quite a learning curve
[04:56] <David-A> metroid1: i was wrong, the fixed length is the length of the whole list, not each button, so with few programs i see more than the icon anyway
[05:47] <robertzaccour> I noticed that when i do screencast video recording with a webcam open the video and audio lag and go out of sync. is it likely that xfce might save me here? I'm using Gnome now.
[05:57] <robertzaccour> hey yall
[05:58] <robertzaccour> When I record screencasting with webcam open the audio and video go out of sync and lag a little. Is it possible xfce might fix my problem? I have gnome now
[09:54] <TornadoXubuntu> Hello! Please I am having a huge delay of almost (30sec) upon my right click on the desktop. I am using Xubuntu 10.10 and Thunar 1.0.2 as my file manager. Please Any suggestions or ideas?
[09:55] <TornadoXubuntu> This delay is only visible on the desktop but no where else.
[09:56] <TornadoXubuntu> there is also a delay of 35 seconds or so while right clicking and prompting to create a new file or document
[09:56] <TornadoXubuntu> i never had such a issue before on the same terminal
[09:56] <TornadoXubuntu> any suggestions are greatly appreciated.
[11:30] <Arpad2> hello
[11:30] <knome> hey
[11:32] <Arpad2> I would just ask for any thought of you about one hing. I have interrupted te distro upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10. What consequencies might have had that?
[11:32] <knome> Arpad2, broken stuff.
[11:33] <knome> Arpad2, i had the same, and that produced a pretty much broken system
[11:33] <Arpad2> might this be resolved during the next upgrade?
[11:34] <knome> might be, if you get to upgrade.
[11:35] <Arpad2> i think that the propriatry nvidia driver doesnt have 3d support at all is connection with my interrution of the upgrade
[11:36] <Arpad2> well, than I'll wait to the next release
[11:37] <Arpad2> I suppose there isnt much else to do...
[11:37] <dagnytaggart> Greetings. I am looking for some assistance in writing inputs from the command line. In particular, I can run '"gpg" [Press Enter]. Program then responds with "Enter input", I enter input, then press "Ctrl-D" - program then closes and outputs the result I want to stdout. This is the behavior I am looking for, just without the human input - need to condense it down to one statement entered on the command line. Thoughts?
[11:40] <knome> Arpad2, you can try 'apt-get autoclear'
[11:40] <Arpad2> knome: ok
[11:41] <Sysi> autoclean i think?
[11:41] <knome> dagnytaggart, you probably should look at 'gpg --help'. i suppose you can enter an input file
[11:41] <Sysi> or is that different
[11:41] <knome> yeah, autoclean...
[11:41] <Arpad2> :) thx Sysi
[11:43] <dagnytaggart> knome, Yes, can be done with an input file, but I have ascii text to deal with initially. I could take this text, create a .asc file with it, import it, capture the stdout after I import (which contain the information, namely name and e-mail address of a PGP public key), then delete the public key from my keychain, and delete the temporary .asc file I created from the text.
[11:44] <dagnytaggart> ...but this seems a bit circuitous. I was hoping for something a bit more straightforward utilizing just the ascii text. "gpg [enter] past public key ascii text [ctrl-d]", does do it, but necessitates human input. Was looking to have a web server execute this. Any ideas?
[11:48] <knome> dagnytaggart, i don't completely understand - you want to automatically convert text A to text B with gpg. where does text B need to go?
[11:49] <dagnytaggart> Essentially I take in a public key in ASCII text from a user through PHP, and I need to extract the name and e-mail address associated with that public key.
[11:49] <knome> right. isn't there some php modules to do that?
[11:49] <dagnytaggart> PHP allows me to run its exec() function which calls command line functions for me, and puts the stdout into an array for me to use in PHP.
[11:50] <dagnytaggart> Right now, the way to get the stdout I want necessitates me being at the command line pressing [enter], pasting, and [ctrl-d]. Was hoping to condense this down to something that could be automated.
[11:51] <knome> dagnytaggart, you probably want gpg to supress all warnings and just go.
[11:51] <dagnytaggart> And there are PGP packages intended for encrypting, decrypting, and all the like. A little overkill for this situation, where I don't need to do anything more than get a name and e-mail address off a public key. But will look and see how they implement dealing with ascii text in those if they do at all.
[11:52] <knome> mm-hmm
[20:49] <kenter46> i'm having a hard time getting my logitech webcam to work.  it wants me to screw around in the terminal window with all these commands that i don't understand.  is there an easier way?
[20:50] <kenter46> i'm having a hard time getting my logitech webcam to work.  it wants me to screw around in the terminal window with all these commands that i don't understand.  is there an easier way?
[20:57] <cannonfodder> hey you guys...im on gnome and i just installed xubuntu via aptitude
[20:58] <cannonfodder> what i need to know now is what command do i type to start the xfce desktop environment after i kill gnome
[20:58] <cannonfodder> actually...wats the propper way to shut gnome down?
[20:58] <pleia2> cannonfodder: you can log out and select xfce from the login screen
[20:58] <cannonfodder> and wats the proper way to start xfce
[20:59] <cannonfodder> i want to learn how to do it from the terminal though
[20:59] <cannonfodder> is there a way?
[20:59] <Sysi> create ~/.xinitrc file and put there startxfce4
[20:59] <Sysi> then login on console and say startx
[21:00] <Sysi> you can't have GDM running i think
[21:00] <cannonfodder> ya im sure i cant
[21:00] <cannonfodder> i will /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[21:00] <cannonfodder> that works right?
[21:00] <cannonfodder> since thats the daemon
[21:01] <pleia2> what version of ubuntu are you using?
[21:01] <cannonfodder> netbook version the newest one
[21:01] <Sysi> that works but it's really alias for 'service gdm stop'
[21:01] <cannonfodder> ah ok
[21:01] <cannonfodder> Sysi  what do you mean .xinitrc ?
[21:02] <cannonfodder> do i create a file  named that?
[21:02] <cannonfodder> and put in in my home directory?
[21:02] <cannonfodder> and is it a bash file?
[21:02] <cannonfodder> or just a simple text file
[21:02] <Sysi> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xfce
[21:02] <cannonfodder> thanks
[21:02] <Sysi> ck-lauch-session sould not be needed in *buntu
[21:03] <cannonfodder> ok cool
[21:03] <kenter46> Any ideas with the Logitech webcam
[21:04] <Sysi> copy paste given commands to terminal or/and find better manual
[21:04] <kenter46> ?
[22:22] <matu> Hi, is this normal ? http://img24.imageshack.us/i/cran130211231938.png/
[22:22] <matu> apt-get : unknown command
[22:22] <matu> i just performed a fresh install
[22:25] <matu> after i added one source i was able to install nautilus using apt-get
[22:25] <knome> not normal
[22:26] <matu> it is very bad :/ in addition of that i performed a md5 from mac os in order to test the iso it said the sum it looked the md5sum was not same, but now it looks it is same using md5sum on the "same" image
[22:27] <matu> sorry for my bad english did you get me ?
[22:27] <matu> should i reinstall ?
[22:27] <matu> it is bad i can't think my system is safe...
[22:29] <matu> what should i do knome ?
[22:46] <knome> what does 'aptitude' output?
[22:47] <knome> matu, you could actually even try 'sudo aptitude autoclean'
[22:47] <knome> also erm
[22:47] <knome> did you enable the root user?
[22:48] <matu> apt-get now works but it was really weird so i thought it was worth writing
[22:48] <knome> okay.
[22:48] <knome> what did you do to fix it?
[22:48] <matu> maybe it was because of the "sudo su" and not "sudo -i su" ?
[22:48] <knome> probably
[22:49] <matu> hum i added the "canonical friends" in the sources of the installer (synaptic i guess)
[22:50] <Sysi> (partner) shouldn't matter
[22:52] <charno> hi together
[22:53] <matu> partner right
[22:53] <matu> i was thinking about "partenaire" in french haha
[22:53] <matu> hi charno , thank you Sysi
[22:54] <charno> i've some trouble with installing vmware workstation 7.1
[22:54] <charno> no, wrong... the installation went right
[22:54] <charno> but i can't run it
[22:55] <charno> The program itself seems to run, but I get tons of these: (vmware-modconfig:20607): Gtk-WARNING **: GModule (/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/engines/libpixmap.so) initialization check failed: Gtk+ version too old (micro mismatch)
[22:55] <charno> i get also some other output, like a description of the kernel modules
[22:55] <charno> so I think that just the GUI doesn'n seem to be shown
[22:56] <charno> also I get this one: Fontconfig error: "conf.d", line 1: no element found
[22:56] <charno> anybody here who can and wants to help me with that?
[23:01] <knome> have you searched google and the ubuntu forums?
[23:07] <charno> yes, i did
[23:07] <charno> didn't find anything very useful
[23:07] <charno> just problems with the kernel modules which i don't have
[23:07] <charno> i assume it has something to do with the gtk-version
[23:07] <charno> but I think it should be the same as in ubuntu?
[23:09] <charno> and i found some people claiming that this version of vmware runs on ubuntu 10.10, and i didn't find anything similar to my errors
[23:21] <knome> hmm, kernel modules
[23:21] <knome> you probably need to install some kernel headers
[23:21] <knome> at least
[23:21] <knome> i don't know exactly, haven't run vmware in ages
[23:22] <charno> okay
[23:22] <charno> sorry, there's a misunderstanding
[23:23] <charno> i don't have the problems with the kernel modules
[23:23] <knome> yes, gtk version is the same than in ubuntu
[23:24] <charno> okay
[23:24] <charno> so that shouldn't be the point
[23:24] <charno> i assume that fontconfig wouldn't prevent the GUI from being shown (at least with a crappy front)
[23:25] <charno> so I'll have to do some more research
[23:27] <charno> but thanks anyway
[23:27] <charno> and a good night
[23:28] <knome> no problem
[23:28] <knome> night