[03:32] <c2tarun> hi...
[03:35] <Daskreech> hi
[08:37] <bambee> morning
[09:41] <Quintasan> \o
[09:44] <valorie> o/
[10:29] <afiestas> Riddell: finally I won't make it to finish kde-disk-utility for 19 :/ not if I want to make it right
[10:35] <Riddell> afiestas: 24th is feature freeze
[10:35] <Riddell> but best to get it right rather than rush
[10:42] <afiestas> Riddell: in 24? :s
[10:42] <afiestas> I thought it was the 19 :s
[10:42] <afiestas> or the 18, but not 14 >.<
[10:49] <debfx> Riddell: could you sync pyudev and get it through NEW?
[10:49] <debfx> bug #718399
[10:50] <debfx> it's a dependency of the new synaptiks version
[10:52] <Riddell> afiestas: Thursday 24th February
[10:52] <Riddell> debfx: ok
[10:53] <afiestas> a fuck, I read "24h"
[10:53] <afiestas> xDDD
[10:53] <afiestas> not 24h xD
[10:53] <afiestas> *
[10:53] <afiestas> *24th 
[11:01] <bambee> It's not possible yet to clone a branch from a bzr repository in our own account ? (language-selector)
[11:03] <Riddell> bambee: you can
[11:03] <Riddell> bzr branch lp:foo
[11:03] <Riddell> bzr push lp:~me/<product>/<branchname>
[11:04] <bambee> ok thanks :)
[12:14] <Riddell> shadeslayer: what happened to neon announce?
[12:17] <c2tarun> can anyone help me with this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/566943/  I asked this on motu but I was in hurry so didn't understand. Can anyone please explain?
[12:18] <Riddell> shadeslayer: shall I upload dcmtk?
[12:19] <Riddell> c2tarun: looks like it's missing a library from the linking arguments
[12:20] <c2tarun> Riddell: yup some library is missing when compiling libtools, but I dont know what libraries are missing and where to add them?
[12:22] <Riddell> hmm, those are from openssl so -lssl -lcrypto should cover it
[12:23] <c2tarun> Riddell: how did you find it? :( and where should I add -lssl and -lcrpto?
[12:24] <Riddell> I googled for BIO_s_socket
[12:24] <Riddell> but you already have -lssl -lcrypto in the link line, so it is a mystery
[12:25] <c2tarun> Someone told me its the problem of the order in which they are mentioned. The prob is I dont know the file in which I have to change the order.
[12:25] <Riddell> possibly, you can try running it mannually
[12:25] <Riddell> cd debian/tmp-build-pgsql/src/stored; debian/tmp-build-pgsql/libtool --silent --tag=CXX --mode=link /usr/bin/i686-linux-gnu-g++   -L../lib -L../cats  -o btape btape.o block.o butil.o dev.o device.o label.o vtape.o lock.o ansi_label.o dvd.o ebcdic.o autochanger.o acquire.o mount.o record.o read_record.o reserve.o stored_conf.o match_bsr.o parse_bsr.o scan.o spool.o vol_mgr.o wait.o \
[12:26] <Riddell>  -lbacsql -lbacfg -lbac  -lm -lpthread -ldl   -lssl d-lcrypto
[12:26] <Riddell> whee that was long
[12:26] <c2tarun> Riddell: I am not getting what is meaning of manually ?
[12:27] <Riddell> c2tarun: running the command yourself instead of through make
[12:27] <Riddell> then changing the order to see if it helps
[12:27] <c2tarun> the problem is I dont know where to change the order :) I mean in which file. :/
[12:28] <c2tarun> even if I compile it manually by changing order and this fixes it, still I have to know the file to make changes.
[12:28] <bambee> dev: https://code.launchpad.net/~bambi/language-selector/kcm :)
[12:30] <c2tarun> Riddell: you there?
[12:31] <Riddell> c2tarun: doing it manually is a first step to check that the idea works at all
[12:34] <zorael> Is there any way of downloading and running the textual ubiquity from a live natty session? (I don't have an alternate image and the graphical installer crashes halfway through, as per bug #716048 )
[12:34] <zorael> 'ubiquity debconf_ui' doesn't seem to do the trick.
[12:34] <c2tarun> Riddell: sorry but I failed to find any libtool file in source code folder :(
[12:37] <Riddell> c2tarun: just copy and paste the failed command from your package build
[12:37] <Riddell> zorael: I don't think there's any such thing as a console frontend to ubiquity
[12:37] <c2tarun> Riddell: I think it is in the pastebin. should I paste that pastebin link again?
[12:38] <Riddell> c2tarun: that's from a buildd, you'd need it from a local build
[12:38] <zorael> Riddell: Perhaps I'm wording it wrong. The textual intaller on the alternate image?
[12:38] <zorael> +s
[12:38] <c2tarun> Riddell: ok wait. It'll take some time.
[12:38] <Riddell> zorael: you would need an alternate image for that
[12:39] <zorael> Riddell: All right, thanks.
[12:48] <Riddell> 10.04.2 testing http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/
[13:06] <yofel> o/
[13:06] <Riddell> morning yofel
[13:24] <Riddell> ScottK, maco: owncloud updated
[13:44] <c2tarun> Riddell: ping
[13:44] <Riddell> hi c2tarun 
[13:45] <c2tarun> Riddell: hi :) u remembered the error I asked few minutes ago.
[13:45] <c2tarun> ?
[13:46] <Riddell> yes
[13:46] <c2tarun> Riddell: That error was due to new linkage technique followed in natty. When building the package on maverick machine, I am not getting any error :( I tried this earlier but forgot to tell you.
[13:47] <c2tarun> Riddell: I build that package again on my system and since I am using maverick, build was successful
[13:48] <Riddell> not an uncommon issue, gcc gets updated each release and that tends to cause some new issues to arrise
[13:49] <c2tarun> Riddell: no that was not due to gcc. That was because maverick allows indirect linking with libraries. In natty this kind of linking is prohibited. So all the libraries required must be either linked directly or they'll give an error.  Check this out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/ToolchainTransition
[13:50] <debfx> Debian started removing qt3/kde3 packages: kguitar klineakconfig knetdockapp komba2 kwavecontrol orsa tork xcardii complearn-gui kallery kdetv
[13:50] <debfx> Riddell: ↑
[13:52] <Riddell> debfx: so I see, I think we should follow them
[13:53] <ScottK> Since Lucid will be supported on the desktop longer than Natty, I don't see any rush though.
[14:00] <c2tarun> Riddell: looked at that page?
[14:03] <yofel> c2tarun: so, did the reordering help?
[14:04] <Riddell> c2tarun: yes, it's interesting, by gcc I was meaning the whole toolchain
[14:04] <c2tarun> yofel: Riddell asked me to build that package on my system. On my system package build successfully without any reordering. To build it on natty I should know the place for reordering but I dont know :(
[14:04] <c2tarun> Riddell: so what should I do?
[14:05] <debfx> still I see no reason why we should support them in natty
[14:05] <debfx> so I think we should remove the first batch in natty and the rest in natty+1
[14:08] <Riddell> c2tarun: make a natty chroot with debootstrap, build the package there until it fails, run the failed linking command manually, change the ordering to check it fixes it, then work out what needs to be done to the build system to make that change
[14:09] <Riddell> debfx: how do you mean first batch?
[14:11] <c2tarun> Riddell: I builded the package on natty chroot. but I dont know what do you mean by linking command manually :( (I mean I dont know how to do that?) + I looked and tried but failed to find the place to make the change which MAY fix the error. I am not much familiar with shell scripting, do you think I should read something about it?
[14:13] <Riddell> c2tarun: copy and paste the linking command that filed to get the same problem
[14:13] <Riddell> then change the order of the linking commands to see if that fixes it
[14:13] <Riddell> s/filed/failed/
[14:13] <kubotu> Riddell: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed"
[14:13] <Riddell> s/You/kubotu/
[14:13] <kubotu> Riddell: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed"
[14:15] <debfx> Riddell: for example all packages that Debian removes before natty beta1
[14:15] <c2tarun> Riddell: sorry to ask this again but still I am not getting how to change the order. Should I simply execute the failed command by changing the order on terminal? I dont think that'll do :(
[14:15] <yofel> c2tarun: for now do exactly that
[14:15] <Riddell> c2tarun: yes
[14:15] <c2tarun> Riddell: ok.
[14:16] <Riddell> that's the first step to check the problem can be fixed
[14:17] <c2tarun> Riddell, yofel: how running the command can work? as pbuilder removes all the changes made in the chroot and finishes the task.
[14:18] <yofel> c2tarun: use the kubuntu pbuilder hooks or just login to pbuilder and build there yourself
[14:19] <c2tarun> yofel: ok, I dont know how to access the file outside the chroot after logging into pbuilder. so please either tell me that or please tell me how to use pbuilder hook :(
[14:19] <Riddell> or don't use pbuilder
[14:19] <c2tarun> Riddell: that may be good, but without using pbuilder how can i get natty build?
[14:20] <Riddell> 14:08 < Riddell> c2tarun: make a natty chroot with debootstrap
[14:20] <yofel> c2tarun: the chroot is in /var/cache/pbuilder/build/<pbuilder_PID>/ so you can access the chroot fine from the outside
[14:21] <yofel> c2tarun: as for the pbuilder hooks: 'bzr co lp:~kubuntu-members/pbuilder/pbuilder-hooks ~/.pbuilder-hooks'
[14:22] <yofel> c2tarun: and then add HOOKDIR="$HOME/.pbuilder-hooks" to your ~/.pbuilderrc
[14:23] <c2tarun> yofel: actually I am using pbuilder-dist, so it is in ~/pbuilder and I can access chroot from outside, but problem is accessing files outside chroot from inside.
[14:23] <yofel> why do you want to do that? just copy them from the outside into the chroot
[14:23] <yofel> and the other way around isn't possible I think
[14:25] <c2tarun> yofel: hmm...  you mean I should log into chroot first and then copy the files from other terminal right? ok I'll try
[14:25] <yofel> yes
[14:33] <shadeslayer> Riddell: well .. it would be nice :)
[14:34] <shadeslayer> ( regarding dcmtk )
[14:41] <Riddell> shadeslayer: uploaded
[14:41] <shadeslayer> thanks! :)
[14:42] <shadeslayer> and about neon
[14:42] <shadeslayer> yofel: Quintasan valorie how about we leave artwork for now?
[14:44] <shadeslayer> nigelb: really? O_O
[14:44] <shadeslayer> nigelb: linkie to photo plz
[14:44]  * shadeslayer hasn't seen what fabsh made
[14:44] <yofel> shadeslayer: if we don't get anything by evening today, I agree
[14:44] <shadeslayer> hmm
[14:45]  * shadeslayer pokes #oxygen once more
[14:46] <nigelb> shadeslayer: http://twitter.com/fabsh
[14:47] <nigelb> shadeslayer: well, not blatent
[14:47] <nigelb> shadeslayer: I realized its an app that does that.
[14:47] <shadeslayer> yep
[14:48]  * nigelb goes to wok
[14:48] <nigelb> *work
[14:48] <shadeslayer> O_O http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvDDu9GXoLI
[14:48] <shadeslayer> i *have* to try this
[15:37] <bambee> someone is an apt-pkg guru ?
[15:37] <yofel> depends on the problem..
[15:39] <bambee> actually language-selector installs pkg using qapt-batch => qapt-batch updates the cache, and the cache (self._cache instanceOf type apt.Cache) has to be reloaded to match changes  => it's required to update listviews 
[15:40] <bambee> actually packages are only marked as "mark_install" or "mark_delete" but never has "is_installed" for example , so listview update does not work as expected
[15:40] <yofel> talk to JohntheEchidna when you see him, he wrote qapt
[15:41] <bambee> ok
[16:08] <rbelem> Riddell, ping
[16:08] <Riddell> hi rbelem 
[16:08] <rbelem> Riddell, :-)
[16:09] <rbelem> Riddell, what do you think about add the current patches for ksambashare to the packages
[16:09] <rbelem> Riddell, they are working, but the ui is not the optimal
[16:09] <shadeslayer> bah ovi is down >.>
[16:10] <rbelem> shadeslayer, :-D
[16:10] <Riddell> rbelem: if it's working reliably and doesn't have obvious problems, sure
[16:10] <shadeslayer> 45 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 44059ms
[16:10] <Riddell> rbelem: where can I find it to test it?
[16:10] <shadeslayer> :<
[16:11] <rbelem> Riddell, the plugin patch is here http://reviewboard.kde.org/r/6308/
[16:11] <rbelem> Riddell, and the ksambashare is in kdelibs git
[16:12] <Riddell> rbelem: is the kdelibs patch different than what is in 4.6?
[16:12] <rbelem> Riddell, yup
[16:12] <shadeslayer> Riddell: so what can be done about the KWallet issue
[16:12] <rbelem> Riddell, it just entered when they open the repos for 4.7
[16:13] <Riddell> shadeslayer: what KWallet issue?
[16:13] <shadeslayer> Riddell: the one on the todo?
[16:15] <shadeslayer> hmm
[16:15] <yofel> shadeslayer: the sso one?
[16:16] <shadeslayer> there was this network issue
[16:16] <shadeslayer> yofel: no
[16:16] <shadeslayer> where when you login it automagically opens KWallet
[16:16] <yofel> what's the problem there?
[16:17] <shadeslayer> yofel: currently when you login and have autoconnect set for a network AND you store your network secrets in kwallet, kwallet prompts you for a pass as soon as you login
[16:17] <yofel> aaah, right
[16:19] <Riddell> why is that a problem?
[16:19] <shadeslayer> idk ... i saw it in the wiki somewhere
[16:19] <shadeslayer> now i don't
[16:20] <shadeslayer> maybe i'm starting to go the apachelogger way 
[16:22] <Riddell> the only thing we had on the todo list is the ubuntu one sso issue, which ubuntu one says they'll solve at some point
[16:22] <shadeslayer> yeah ....
[16:22] <shadeslayer> i really can't remember where i saw that task
[16:22] <shadeslayer> altho i did see it :P
[16:23] <yofel> Riddell: they actually removed the depends on gnome-keyring already, they depend on the d-bus service now
[16:24] <yofel> got to debug that when I couldn't get uone to work in natty
[16:24] <yofel> need to get them to add the depends again until we actually have ksecretserviced
[17:24] <Riddell> rbelem: creating shares doesn't work for me
[17:25] <rbelem> Riddell, there are two patches in the git for ksambashare, i forgot to say :-(
[17:26] <Riddell> rbelem: in kdenetwork or kdelibs?
[17:26] <rbelem> Riddell, the second one fixes a problem with the share permissions
[17:26] <rbelem> Riddell, kdelibs
[17:26] <Riddell> kdelibs I just grabbed kio/kio/ksamba*
[17:26] <Riddell> from trunk
[17:26] <Riddell> anything else I need?
[17:27] <rbelem> Riddell, includes/KSambaShare, a small change to CMakeList.txt and kio/CMakeList.txt
[17:28] <rbelem> Riddell, the changes just add the files
[17:29] <rbelem> Riddell, i will point the two git hashes
[17:29] <rbelem> the second 617af27182d85458e7e2e9e35046f1513d9da232
[17:30] <rbelem> and the first d49c4b4391c1f34b950e5565b8b89ad5e610a203
[17:30] <rbelem> Riddell, ^
[17:34] <Riddell> rbelem: and does creating shares work for you?
[17:34] <rbelem> Riddell, yup
[17:34] <rbelem> Riddell, ah! I forgot to add the samba verification
[17:34] <rbelem> Riddell, do you have samba installed?
[17:35] <Riddell> rbelem: yes
[17:36] <rbelem> :-(
[17:36] <Riddell> I can create shares in nautilus
[17:36] <Riddell> (although i can't actually log into them)
[17:37] <Riddell> rbelem: why is there still advanced/propsdlgplugin/ and simple/ ?
[17:37] <rbelem> Riddell, remove them is the next step after plugin receive shipt
[17:38] <Riddell> rbelem: remove which?
[17:38] <rbelem> Riddell, the simple and the nfs dirs
[17:40] <rbelem> afiestas__, and me will work to write a fileshare kcm to replace the current, which lives in the simple dir
[17:40] <rbelem> Riddell, ^
[17:42]  * Riddell tries compiling trunk
[17:42] <shadeslayer> !!!
[17:42] <shadeslayer> Riddell: use Neon?
[17:42] <rbelem> Riddell, git master?
[17:42] <Riddell> neon?  never heard of it.  if only there was a dot story or something to announce these things
[17:43] <Riddell> rbelem: yes (for kdelibs)
[17:43] <rbelem> :-D
[17:43] <rbelem> Riddell, i have the packages here
[17:43] <shadeslayer> :P
[17:43] <rbelem> Riddell,  i will send the libkio to you
[17:43] <shadeslayer> valorie: Quintasan yofel announce it without the artwork i say
[17:43] <shadeslayer> :P
[17:45] <yofel> yeah..
[17:46] <rbelem> Riddell, media.rbelem.info/libkio5_4.6.0-0ubuntu2_i386.deb
[17:48] <shadeslayer> hmm
[17:48] <shadeslayer> where did the akonadi notes plasmoid go from KDE PIM in experimental
[17:48] <shadeslayer> someone gobbled it up
[17:49] <yofel> shadeslayer: kjots (in 4.5.93)
[17:49] <shadeslayer> hmm
[17:50] <rbelem> Riddell, media.rbelem.info/kdelibs5-dev_4.6.0-0ubuntu2_i386.deb
[17:54] <Riddell> rbelem: doesn't help
[17:54] <Riddell> I can remove shares though
[17:54] <rbelem> :-/
[17:55] <rbelem> Riddell, are you running dolphin from a terminal?
[17:56] <rbelem> Riddell, you can see the error messages
[17:57] <Riddell> yes though nothing about samba in the output
[17:58] <rbelem> :-(
[18:00]  * rbelem is looking for errors
[18:05] <rbelem> Riddell, it is working well here
[18:05] <rbelem> o.O
[18:07] <Riddell> rbelem: the share gets created by shareData.setName() right?
[18:08] <rbelem> rbelem, by save()
[18:08] <rbelem> shareData.save()
[18:09] <Riddell> rbelem: if (shareData.setAcl(model->getAcl()) != KSambaShareData::UserShareAclOk) {
[18:09] <Riddell> that is true
[18:09] <Riddell> so save() never gets called
[18:10] <rbelem> checking...
[18:11] <Riddell> yes, if I comment out the return after that if then it works
[18:12] <Riddell> so, what is that if line doing?
[18:12] <rbelem> Riddell, inside the if is there a return, right?
[18:13] <Riddell> rbelem: yes (except I just commented it out on my computer)
[18:14] <rbelem> Riddell, that if is ok, but shareData.setAcl is not working for you :-(
[18:15] <rbelem> Riddell, could you qCritical() << model->getAcl();?
[18:15] <rbelem> :-)
[18:16] <Riddell> rbelem: I'm getting a UserSharePathNotAllowed
[18:17] <rbelem> Riddell, :-O what is the path?
[18:17] <Riddell> ~/jr/Documents
[18:18] <rbelem> Riddell, it should return the error....
[18:18] <Riddell> having commented out the return the share is created (although as I say I can't actually connect)
[18:18] <rbelem> Riddell, do you have sambashare in your `groups`
[18:19] <rbelem> cmd
[18:20] <Riddell> yes
[18:21] <rbelem> Riddell, did you add the  qCritical() << model->getAcl(); to there?
[18:21] <Riddell> rbelem: it's set to ""
[18:22] <rbelem> Riddell, hum... that's the why
[18:23] <rbelem> Riddell, select the everybody to read-only and save with the if enabled
[18:23] <Riddell> rbelem: but even if I set it to something e.g. "Everyone:f" I still get UserSharePathNotAllowed
[18:23] <rbelem> Riddell, weird
[18:24] <rbelem> Riddell, is your user the owner of the dir?
[18:25] <Riddell> yes
[18:26] <Riddell> and I can use the commend line, this work fine:  net usershare add docs /home/jr/Documents comment Everyone:f
[18:27] <rbelem> checking...
[18:29] <rbelem> Riddell, if (!pathInfo.permission(QFile::ReadUser | QFile::WriteUser)) {
[18:29] <rbelem> Riddell, return KSambaShareData::UserSharePathNotAllowed;
[18:30] <rbelem> Riddell, just in this case it returns the UserSharePathNotAllowed
[18:31] <Riddell> rbelem: wait, I made a mistake
[18:31] <Riddell> it's returning UserShareAclInvalid
[18:32] <rbelem> Riddell, ah! ok
[18:32] <rbelem> Riddell, that's because model->getAcl() is returning ""
[18:34] <Riddell> rbelem: right, if I set something in the UI for the ACL then it creates the share, otherwise not
[18:34] <rbelem> Riddell, if you go to line 260 in kdelibs/kio/kio/ksambashare.cpp
[18:35] <rbelem> Riddell, and replace the latest + by *
[18:35] <rbelem> Riddell, it will work
[18:36] <Riddell> rbelem: yay!
[18:36] <Riddell> it works
[18:36] <Riddell> awesomeness
[18:36] <rbelem> :-D
[18:36] <Riddell> ok, now I must run to valentine's dinner
[18:36] <Riddell> thanks rbelem :)
[18:37] <rbelem> Riddell, i thank you
[18:37] <rbelem> Riddell, have a awesome dinner :-)
[19:00] <shadeslayer> finally
[19:00] <shadeslayer> it works \o/
[21:06] <sheytan> Quintasan ping pong
[21:06] <Quintasan> sheytan: pong ping
[21:06] <sheytan> what's up?
[21:07] <Quintasan> nothing much, reading visual novel since I don't want to see qtscriptbindings until Wed
[21:07] <sheytan> Quintasan you want me to showup here :)
[21:07] <sheytan> So you had a deal? :D
[21:08] <Quintasan> oh yeah at some point in time I did
[21:08] <Quintasan> But I forgot what was it -_-
[21:08] <sheytan> happens to me too :D
[21:09] <Quintasan> I do too much stuff
[21:09] <Quintasan> Reading at least five books and two walls of text daily is sure demanding but I never get tired :O
[21:09] <Quintasan> sheytan: I'll ping you back if I recall what I wanted
[21:10] <sheytan> Quintasan do you like drink liters of coffee? :D
[21:10] <Quintasan> nah
[21:10] <sheytan> It's impossible to not get tired :D
[21:10] <Quintasan> I drink tea
[21:11] <Quintasan> But well, it looks like my leaves got dry
[21:11] <sheytan> oh, anyway, i'm going to like lie on bet and do nothing. Ping me when you will have a question ;)
[21:30] <micahg> hi, can someone take a look at bug 689362
[21:53] <debfx> hm 2.4.4 added new virtual functions
[23:17] <valorie> quintasan, tazz, yofel, shadeslayer - #project-neon