[09:58] <danilos> gmb, hi :)
[10:08] <gmb> Morning danilos :)
[10:08] <danilos> gmb, how's it going? :)
[10:09] <gmb> Oh, you know, doing mockups whilst outside it rains, that kind of thing.
[10:09] <gmb> danilos: How was your week off?
[10:11] <danilos> gmb, it was pretty good, passed one exam, failed the other one which was the next day (didn't really expect to pass that one :)
[10:15] <danilos> gmb, btw, I just got to gary's email suggestion what I can do today, and one of the things is helping you if we can come up with a way for that
[10:16] <gmb> danilos: Okay. I need to get through a few tasks this morning so it's prbably best if we try to work something out with gary at the standup.
[10:16] <danilos> gmb, sure thing, I'll go back to churning email then :)
[10:16] <gmb> Cool.
[11:58]  * danilos -> food
[13:32] <gary_poster> Oops!
[13:32] <gary_poster> Sorry
[13:33] <gary_poster> bac benji danilos gmb, mumble/kanban in 1 (i.e., enough time for me to get my act together :-P )
[13:37] <bac> sorry, my sound was off
[14:30] <gmb> I'm going to disconnect from the 'net for a while so that I can get stuff done - too many distractions today. Anything urgent, call me on +44 7725 525916
[15:44] <gmb> You know, this whole "not being connected to the web and getting work done" thing has its advantages.
[15:44] <gmb> Of course, it makes inbox zero harder.
[15:49] <gary_poster> :-)
[15:53] <danilos> gmb, if you stay disconnected, it makes inbox zero easier :) at least from your non-connected perspective
[15:53] <gmb> True
[16:25] <benji> gary_poster: I need a judgement call.  Testing this one line change is monstrous.  Either I spend a day or two more on this or I try to push it through as a one line, untested change.
[16:25] <gary_poster> ack, benji.  one sec, lemme store state...
[16:25] <benji> :)
[16:28] <gary_poster> ok, benji.  So, this is the template change that produces a link.  I forget why there are two templates, but there are two, and one of them does what we want, and the other does not.  Questions that do not necessarily lead to a conclusion follow. :-P Is the one template that does what we want tested?  Have you done an implementation call with someone like Graham to doublecheck your assumptions?
[16:29] <gary_poster> (your assumptons of what is necessary to write a test)
[16:29] <benji> the template that includes the unsubscribe link is not tested (that I can find, but I'll looked very hard)
[16:30] <gary_poster> gotcha.  So bugnotification-sending.txt is not pertinent?
[16:30] <benji> I've not talked to Graham or anyone else about it.
[16:31]  * gmb reads scrollback
[16:31] <gary_poster> benji, here's my take.  Tell me what you think.  1) take a look at bugnotification-sending.txt and make sure it doesn't help you somehow, if you have not already.  2) if that's not a help, try Graham.  3) If he agrees with your understanding, go for the one line
[16:32]  * gary_poster was trying to use "Graham" so as not to bother gmb unnecessarily (yet ;-) )
[16:32] <benji> bugnotification-sending.txt is pertenent, but off limits because of it's doctestness (that's my understanding)
[16:32] <gmb> Hah, I have overeager highlights.
[16:32] <gary_poster> :-)
[16:33] <gary_poster> benji, IMO if you can quickly figure out how to use bugnotification-sending.txt to test what you need, I think it is OK.  Alternatively, I'm writing a unit test version of some of the stuff in that file right now; I'm hopeful it will work, and if so, you can use it when I'm done.
[16:34] <benji> I'll take a second look at bugnotification-sending.txt.
[16:35] <gary_poster> benji, if you want to wait for my unit testy bits, you can put this aside and tackle something quick.  bug 718809 might be *too* quick.  Or you could investigate the next steps for your next job (the webservice bits).  That's a bit risky, but...
[16:35] <_mup_> Bug #718809: New users should default to not receiving email for their own actions <story-better-bug-notification> <Launchpad itself:Triaged by yellow> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/718809 >
[16:35] <gary_poster> ok cool
[16:47]  * benji lunches
[17:18]  * gmb -> going afk for a while to make dinner; will check back later
[17:20] <gary_poster> thanks, bye
[19:51] <gary_poster> bac, ping?
[19:51] <bac> gary_poster: hi
[19:51] <gary_poster> hey bac.  quick mumble?
[19:52] <bac> ok
[20:02]  * gary_poster is forced to go out and work on the porch because it is so lovely outside
[20:05]  * gary_poster revels in how nice it is.
[20:05]  * gary_poster goes back to work.
[20:15]  * bac -> optometrist