[21:57] <hajour> Pendulum,  i am still busy with the school for ubuntu.i heard today if i succeed it will not be 1 primary school but 18
[21:57] <Pendulum> hajour: that's great
[21:57] <hajour> i go work further on it because its evening here
[21:57] <charlie-tca> wow!
[21:58] <hajour> yes i was surprised to when i heard it
[21:58] <hajour> but it need to support electronic school board  so i will dive in it 
[21:59] <hajour> just wanted to let you all know
[22:00] <charlie-tca> Thanks! keep trying... you can do it
[22:00] <hajour> and there must be a good speech program in there are many children on that school with health issues
[22:01] <charlie-tca> We get that everywhere. Orca is good, if the equipment lets it work
[22:01] <hajour> from what i heard is that we need to make speechcontrol working for that
[22:01] <hajour> the bug from orca is still not solved
[22:02] <hajour> so i will do my best
[22:02] <charlie-tca> orca works for many people
[22:02] <hajour> there are bugs in
[22:02] <charlie-tca> yes, will there be no bugs in speechcontrol?
[22:02] <hajour> it need to be eworking for all people
[22:03] <hajour> it first need to be good for it can used not earlier
[22:03] <hajour> people test it charlie-tca 
[22:03] <charlie-tca> okay
[22:04] <hajour> again and again and again
[22:04] <hajour> there is no use to put a nor working program in what is full of bugs
[22:04] <charlie-tca> That's what it takes, but they do not have every computer and card combination. It is hard to make an application work on everything.
[22:04] <hajour> nor=not
[22:05] <charlie-tca> Orca has worked for thousands of people, it is broken for a few. That seems pretty good
[22:05] <hajour> thats why it is necessary to test it by all different people charlie-tca 
[22:06] <charlie-tca> I know, that's why I am one of many testers. How do we get more to test for Ubuntu?
[22:07] <hajour> Jacky will inform when the real testing will begin
[22:07] <UndiFineD> ofcourse SpeechControl will have its fair share of bugs, we build upon existing applications, but the difference is that the major faults are already trickled :)
[22:07] <hajour> we hope people here also will help testing
[22:07] <charlie-tca> Again, why can't we have more people testing in Ubuntu?
[22:08] <hajour> ask in the channels works good
[22:08] <hajour> there are people who do not read forums often
[22:08] <charlie-tca> This is the accessibility channel. This should be the channel to have people test accessibility in Ubuntu
[22:08] <hajour> but are willing to help if you ask them
[22:09] <hajour> in netherlands ubuntu-mwanzo are  people who want to test charlie-tca 
[22:09] <hajour> leoquant told me
[22:10] <hajour> i will ask charlie-tca  and leoquant to
[22:10] <hajour> then we will send them to here if they want to test charlie-tca 
[22:50] <AlanBell> what orca bug hajour?
[22:51] <hajour> UndiFineD, have send it to jmarsden he is looking over it AlanBell 
[22:51] <AlanBell> hajour: you are subscribed to no bugs
[22:52] <AlanBell> UndiFineD is subscribed to one orca bug 718157
[22:52] <hajour> no it is give trough by UndiFineD 
[22:52] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 718157 in gnome-orca "Traceback on cli orca" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/718157
[22:52] <UndiFineD> AlanBell: no it is another one I need to file to LP
[22:52] <AlanBell> which is unconfirmed and has almost no information on it about what happened
[22:52] <UndiFineD> I did it straight t gnome before
[23:30] <erkan^> i have problem with orca
[23:30] <erkan^> :/
[23:30] <erkan^> but good
[23:30] <erkan^> orca for vergrootglasprogramma [zoom program] is not easy
[23:31] <erkan^> but i don't want "speech control" in system, because i am deaf ... how must I do him OFF ?