[00:12] <penguin42> heck, lp is just littered with package failed to install/upgrade errors
[00:14] <micahg> penguin42: indeed, the worst part is they're all different causes
[00:14]  * yofel 's favourite is "failed to	install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: package xy is already	installed and configured"
[00:15]  * penguin42 is getting fairly good at guess-the-language to tell google translate
[00:16] <micahg> penguin42: google translate should be able to guess most
[00:16] <penguin42> yeh
[00:16] <penguin42> one way to learn Dutch I guess
[00:18] <greg-g> :)
[00:18] <greg-g> "Learn Dutch through error messages!"
[00:19] <penguin42> I guess it's unlikely to get me far in conversations
[00:31] <greg-g> penguin42: if it did, you might be having very odd conversations.
[02:51] <Rcart> Hello. Looks like this bug report needs some translation that is what I have just indicated. So, my question is what state should I assign it?
[02:51] <Rcart> sorry: bug 710627
[02:51] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 710627 in totem (Ubuntu) "dossier personnel,s'ouvre parfois avec lecteur vidéo et provoque 1 buc (affects: 1) (heat: 495)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/710627
[02:54] <Rcart> Shoud it be Invalid, right?
[03:08] <charlie-tca> Rcart: bugs are not invalid just because they are not in english
[03:10] <charlie-tca> It can go incomplete awaiting translation
[03:11] <charlie-tca> It can also be converted to a question for the translation team to translate it
[03:13] <charlie-tca> Rcart: thanks for helping with bugs, it really is appreciated
[03:13] <Rcart> charlie-tca: Okay, I'll mark it as Incomplete.
[03:14] <Rcart> charlie-tca: Thank you for helping (:
[03:14] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[03:23] <Rcart> charlie-tca: BTW, do you know if the BugSquad Mentor Program is still working?
[03:23] <charlie-tca> Not working as well as we would like it to
[03:24] <charlie-tca> but it is still an active program, yes
[03:24] <charlie-tca> We just don't have enough mentors to get everyone in quickly
[03:27] <Rcart> I see, I sent my request a week+ ago, but seems I'll have to wait a little more, and with luck get a mentor (:
[03:28] <charlie-tca> Yeah, but you can keep on triaging bugs even without a mentor, you are doing a fine job, and will learn that way too.
[03:36] <Rcart> Sure. besides the How-To triage is pretty good, and the other Wiki entries too.
[04:06]  * Rcart is gonna sleep.
[09:55] <seb128> https://bugs.launchpad.net/~j-truyts
[09:55] <seb128> seems those bugs from this guy are duplicates if someone feels like cleaning the list
[10:27] <jibel> seb128, marking as dup of 718337 which is probably the root cause and a known issue lucid anyway.
[10:28] <seb128> jibel, thanks
[10:30] <jibel> done
[10:44] <seb128> jibel, isn't apt or apport supposed to be smart and limit the bugs users report with such upgrade issues?
[10:45] <jibel> seb128, now it is, but not at the time of lucid.
[10:46] <seb128> ok
[16:30] <seb128> bdmurray, do you know if http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sponsoring/index.html is broken? it seems it didn't update for some hours
[16:32] <bdmurray> seb128: that's a dholbach report
[16:32] <seb128> bdmurray, seems launchpad is having issues
[16:32] <seb128> bdmurray, http://paste.ubuntu.com/567034/
[16:32] <bdmurray> seb128: they removed edge.launchpad.net which is affecting the API
[18:59] <bdmurray> anybody familiar with evolution?  I can't recreate bug 717971 but it seems rather important
[18:59] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 717971 in evolution (Ubuntu) "Can't provide password for account capplet althought it asks me to (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/717971
[18:59] <micahg> hggdh: ^^
[18:59] <bdmurray> the screenshot looks a lot different from what I see
[19:05] <charlie-tca> trying ubuntu 64
[19:11] <patrickmw> bdmurray: that's not a bug
[19:11] <patrickmw> bdmurray: the password is prompted at first use
[19:12] <patrickmw> bdmurray: the checkbox is a little misleading yes
[19:12] <charlie-tca> patrickmw: but he said he never got the prompt to enter it
[19:13] <bdmurray> and if you look at the screenshot it tells you to enter your password but there is no field for it
[19:13] <patrickmw> charlie-tca: it may be a question of when he was expecting it
[19:13] <charlie-tca> like when it asks for it?
[19:14] <patrickmw> correct
[19:14] <charlie-tca> but there is no place to input it
[19:14]  * patrickmw looking at screenshot
[19:15] <patrickmw> oh?
[19:15] <patrickmw> I see now
[19:15] <charlie-tca> unless I missed something there, :-)
[19:16] <patrickmw> something I've noticed
[19:17] <patrickmw> this doesn't look like the default evolution setup window
[19:17] <patrickmw> it look like evolution-settings was run
[19:18] <patrickmw> that error makes to sense to be on that screen.  the only reason I can see that it because I've been developing automated tests for evolution. I haven't seen this
[19:18] <patrickmw> s/to/no
[19:19] <patrickmw> bdmurray: i will try it with evolution-settings
[19:21] <patrickmw> bdmurray: confirmed
[19:21] <patrickmw> bdmurray: i can reproduce the error with evolution-settings.  evolution's first time setup wizard does not have this issue
[19:22] <bdmurray> patrickmw: so to some degree it seems like user error or a corner case
[19:22] <charlie-tca> maybe it's me, but I can not find that wizard in evolution in natty
[19:22] <bdmurray> patrickmw: right?
[19:23] <patrickmw> charlie-tca, bdmuarry: system -> prefs -> email settings
[19:23] <patrickmw> bdmurray: ^^, corner case perhaps, but not user error
[19:26] <Pici> Er, why did the Bug Watch Updater just change the importance of an invalid bug to Critical?  (bug 263059)
[19:26] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 263059 in linux (Ubuntu Intrepid) (and 2 other projects) "[regression] 2.6.27-7 sometimes fails to boot (iwl3945 issue?) (affects: 16) (dups: 13) (heat: 288)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/263059
[19:26] <bdmurray> patrickmw: okay, thanks for all the help!
[19:27] <patrickmw> bdmurray: np.  i will be unavailable for a few hours.  send me an email if you need anything else
[19:27] <micahg> Pici: probably just importing the statuses from that bug tracker
[19:27] <Pici> hmm.
[19:27] <bdmurray> patrickmw: I've recreated it now, just wasn't sure how to get that dialog
[19:29] <MadCow108> hi, I have some questions concerning bug 675669 which renders the package universalindentgui completely unusable
[19:29] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 675669 in universalindentgui (Ubuntu) "Segmentation fault at startup (affects: 5) (dups: 1) (heat: 52)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/675669
[19:30] <MadCow108> it can be fixed by a simple rebuild of the package
[19:30] <MadCow108> but there was no reaction from anybody since the report
[19:30] <MadCow108> how does one get it rebuilt fr natty?
[19:31] <MadCow108> the cause of the problem is bug 689362 but there also no reaction from anybody
[19:31] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 689362 in qscintilla2 (Ubuntu) "abi breaking not reflected in soversion (affects: 2) (heat: 65)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/689362
[19:32] <micahg> MadCow108: you can attach a debdiff requesting a rebuild and subscribe ubuntu-sponsors or I can take a look at it in a bit
[19:35] <MadCow108> rebuilding for natty also triggers this bug: 718936 (patch attached), this is not required for gcc <4.5
[19:35] <MadCow108> thx, I'll look into the sponsors list
[19:35] <micahg> MadCow108: here's a guide, feel free to ping me or just ask in #ubuntu-motu with questions: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SponsorshipProcess
[19:46] <BUGabundo> evening
[19:47] <charlie-tca> Hello, BUGabundo
[19:48] <BUGabundo> hey charlie
[19:49] <bcurtiswx> howdy BUGabundo
[19:50] <BUGabundo> hey curt
[19:57]  * penguin42 wonders if MadCow108 has super cow powers
[19:59]  * BUGabundo sudos MadCow108
[19:59] <kklimonda> hey bugabuga :)
[19:59]  * vish \o/
[20:01] <BUGabundo> you guys are all around today :D
[20:01] <BUGabundo> that's so nice
[20:06] <kklimonda> bummer, I hate january.
[20:06]  * penguin42 checks
[20:06] <penguin42> kklimonda: It's February
[20:07] <kklimonda> I can't do much during this month
[20:07] <kklimonda> and I've screwed up Transmission update because of that.
[20:07] <BUGabundo> LOL
[20:07] <kklimonda> penguin42: yeah, but I'm still dealing with problems that January have brought me ;)
[20:23] <trinikrono> micahg: ping (needs packagin)
[20:23] <trinikrono> hello everyone o/
[20:23] <micahg> trinikrono: it's looking like we're not going to upstream them, I'm just giving the e-mail on the derivatives list a little more time
[20:24] <trinikrono> micahg: you mean link to debian reports if they have them and if they dont, dont file in debian?
[20:25] <micahg> trinikrono: right, seems to be they should only be filed as RFPs if they're actually packaged in Ubuntu
[20:26] <trinikrono> micahg: sounds like you are trying to make into a motu lol
[20:26] <micahg> trinikrono: huh?
[20:27] <trinikrono> make me into a motu ..
[20:27] <micahg> heh
[20:28] <micahg> we need lots of help :)
[20:29] <trinikrono> micahg: so should i work on these needs-packaging bugs, i have 7 of them and everyday i see more in the bugs without a package list
[20:30] <micahg> trinikrono: well, if you have an interest in the package and will maintain it, feel free, otherwise, it just creates more stuff for MOTU to maintain
[20:33] <trinikrono> micahg: that sounds scary i am not a developer yet, just trying to get bugs triaged
[20:34] <micahg> trinikrono: the needs-packaging bugs are there for people interested in maintaining the packages, there's not much for the bug squad to do with them
[21:58] <trinikrono> wow charlie-tca you are on 60 days in a row in 5-A-Day you are really serious about bugs :D
[21:58] <charlie-tca> I just try to do some each day
[22:00] <charlie-tca> trinikrono: you know, couple here, couple there
[22:01] <trinikrono> the most i ever got is 15 so far
[22:01] <trinikrono> i think i need to specialise in bugs
[22:02] <trinikrono> but seriously charlie-tca you should get a cookie or something
[22:03]  * micahg just had some cookies :)
[22:03] <charlie-tca> trinikrono: I don't fix bugs, I just triage them so the developers can fix them
[23:49]  * penguin42 is trying to file a bug and  ubuntu-bug has filled in most of the page but when I'm hitting send I'm getting an error appear under the summary saying 'Constraint not satisfied' - anyone seen that?
[23:50] <BUGabundo> no
[23:51] <penguin42> odd, changed the title and it's OK
[23:51] <penguin42> maybe there are some characters you aren't allowed
[23:53]  * penguin42 almost feels guilty about that, only bug in a package
[23:53] <micahg> penguin42: you can file a bug against the launchpad project, that's an error with JS form validation
[23:54] <micahg> err, not an error, but an unclear description of what's wrong
[23:55] <penguin42> bah, can't recreate it - I wonder what it got upset at