[01:13] <ojwb> i think retailers for TVs and other consumer stuff have low margins on the equipment, so try to make money on cables and accessories
[01:14] <ojwb> they seem to try to push surge protectors which are insanely expensive
[01:14] <hads> That's correct.
[01:14] <ojwb> and extended warranties
[01:16] <ojwb> cloudcamp was good in parts I thought
[01:16] <ojwb> not sure having everyone in the same discussion for the whole time was the right choice though
[01:17] <ojwb> and the general assumption that everyone should be using the cloud for everything seemed a bit odd
[18:39] <ibeardslee> morning
[18:49] <ajmitch> morning
[18:49] <mwhudson> morning
[19:42] <chilts> morning
[20:42] <thumper> morning
[22:05] <ojwb> morning
[23:05] <Atamira> afternoon
[23:07] <hads> Afternoon
[23:19] <Atamira> its not easy going back into nornal sleep patterns when you've been on midnight shifts for a year
[23:20] <ibeardslee> are you on day shifts now?
[23:20] <Atamira> no, holiday till next week
[23:21] <Atamira> and im flying to chch on thurs morning
[23:21] <Atamira> might have to stay up all night
[23:54] <hads> Hmm. Updating an Intrepid box.
[23:57] <ibeardslee> that's a multi-hop to get it up to date isn't it?
[23:58] <ibeardslee> that also reminds me I need to do a karmic -> lucid upgrade on my vps
[23:58] <hads> Yeah, Intrepid -> Jaunty -> Karmic -> Lucid and maybe stop there.
[23:58] <ibeardslee> last time it went boom and had to restore