[01:13] i think retailers for TVs and other consumer stuff have low margins on the equipment, so try to make money on cables and accessories [01:14] they seem to try to push surge protectors which are insanely expensive [01:14] That's correct. [01:14] and extended warranties [01:16] cloudcamp was good in parts I thought [01:16] not sure having everyone in the same discussion for the whole time was the right choice though [01:17] and the general assumption that everyone should be using the cloud for everything seemed a bit odd [18:39] morning [18:49] morning [18:49] morning [19:42] morning [20:42] morning [22:05] morning [23:05] afternoon [23:07] Afternoon [23:19] its not easy going back into nornal sleep patterns when you've been on midnight shifts for a year [23:20] are you on day shifts now? [23:20] no, holiday till next week [23:21] and im flying to chch on thurs morning [23:21] might have to stay up all night [23:54] Hmm. Updating an Intrepid box. [23:57] that's a multi-hop to get it up to date isn't it? [23:58] that also reminds me I need to do a karmic -> lucid upgrade on my vps [23:58] Yeah, Intrepid -> Jaunty -> Karmic -> Lucid and maybe stop there. [23:58] last time it went boom and had to restore