[01:23] <hazrpg> Hmm... I appear to be having some weird troubles that I never use to have with this install :/
[01:24] <hazrpg> My main enter key on my keyboard just doesn't do anything, I'm having to press enter with my secondary enter (numpad) key
[01:26] <hazrpg> and for some reason, I can't get the menu and bars to stay on my left screen with TwinView - it keeps placing it on the right screen. Whenever I manage to get it to display on the left screen, I have to move my mouse all the way to the left to appear on the right screen. Which is odd behaviour (dispite looking right on the NVIDIA X Server Settings)
[01:27] <hazrpg> Its really driving me insane >_<
[01:33] <hazrpg> Whoop! Fixed my first issue, getting the screens right - can't seem to fix my keyboard issue. Anyone able to help shed some light? Also media buttons aren't working either (mute, volume, etc). I'm using a zboard, I'm guessing its a driver issue.
[03:01] <hazrpg> hmm, still having trouble getting my keyboard to work properly - any ideas?
[06:15] <Myrtti> hm
[06:16] <Myrtti> my kitchen thermometer says it's -26 outside
[06:16] <shauno> what's your kitchen thermometer doing outside?
[06:16] <Myrtti> well, the kitchen window outside thermometer
[06:17] <Myrtti> the assumption is that people go prepare breakfast in the kitchen
[06:17] <Myrtti> so they check the outdoor temperature while at it
[06:17] <shauno> ah
[06:17] <shauno> only time I had to pay attention to temperatures, we had a little station setup, so we'd check from the pc each morning, not the kitchen :)
[06:18] <Myrtti> http://en.ilmatieteenlaitos.fi/weather/Tampere
[06:18] <Myrtti> I guess I'll put my woolly tights on top of my leggings
[06:21] <shauno> ahh.  didn't realise you were nordic
[07:44] <daubers> Morning
[07:55] <AlanBell> morning
[08:08] <MartijnVdS> howdy
[08:11] <MooDoo> hello all
[08:11] <AlanBell> morning MooDoo
[08:11]  * AlanBell likes MooDoo's attitude today
[08:11] <MooDoo> morning AlanBell how are you?
[08:11] <MooDoo> :)
[08:11] <MartijnVdS> https://market.android.com/details?id=com.google.android.apps.androidify
[08:16] <TheOpenSourcerer> morning all
[08:28] <hoover> mornin
[08:32] <DJones> Morning all, happy valentines day to all
[08:35] <TheOpenSourcerer> Just got 2 presents from Mrs TheOpenSourcerer: A Funny Book and a Bottle of Fleurie :-D
[08:37] <DJones> Heh, my present was my wife stayed in bed as I got up for work
[08:37] <TheOpenSourcerer> lol
[08:39] <diplo> morning
[08:41] <screen-x> morning :)
[08:43] <AlanBell> TheOpenSourcerer: that is a very nice drop of plonk
[09:00] <danfish> morning
[09:00] <danfish> my wife's given me the flu for valentine's day :(
[09:04] <DJones> danfish: At least she's a sharing & caring type of person
[09:04] <AlanBell> go to a doctors and demand antibiotics just for kicks :)
[09:05] <danfish> DJones: she can keep this present!
[09:05] <DJones> Is it a cold, flu, or man flu though, that'll be decision maker for how much sympathy she gives you
[09:06] <danfish> AlanBell: I'm there already and I've said no to myself. Lodging an official complaint against myself ;)
[09:07] <danfish> DJones: man flu, so little sympathy.
[09:08] <DJones> I thought if you had flu & worked in a medical practise (hospital/doctors etc) they sent you home so you didn't pass it on to patients
[09:09] <DJones> Or has my wife just been skiving
[09:11] <danfish> DJones: we're short staffed this week, so alcohol gel, mask and get on with it :(
[09:11] <DJones> :)
[09:21] <pr0ph3t> morning all
[09:28] <AlanBell> czajkowski: need any Ubuntu CDs for the plugfest?
[09:29] <bigcalm> AlanBell: na, she's seen the future: a red fedora
[09:30] <MooDoo> :)
[09:30] <AlanBell> I will ask Jon then, he seems set on Ubuntu as the way forward
[09:36] <czajkowski> don't ye start
[09:36] <czajkowski> I got him back on his fb ac
[09:36] <czajkowski> little cheeky fecker
[09:38] <jpds> czajkowski: You should enable the Facebook HTTPS option.
[09:39] <czajkowski> jpds: or just sign out of my ac on his machine
[09:39] <czajkowski> I've my own login
[09:39] <czajkowski> as he doesnt trust me :(
[09:39] <czajkowski> to be fait I've gotten near his phone and done some tweeting
[09:39] <czajkowski> :)
[09:41] <AlanBell> who has root?
[09:41] <AlanBell> is there sudo on a mac?
[09:42] <czajkowski> it's his mac
[09:42] <czajkowski> :)
[09:43] <cbx333> anyone know about IME in ubuntu?
[09:43] <gyre007> \join #httpd
[09:43] <MooDoo> gyre007: oops :)
[09:43] <gyre007> Woops :)
[09:44] <gyre007> typo :)
[09:44] <andylockran> howdy all
[09:44] <andylockran> any ideas how to change the resolution of the console before you boot into X?
[09:47] <mungojerry> andylockran, u mean settings the resolution for the framebuffer?
[09:47] <mungojerry> u can pass a kernel option https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Kernel%20Options
[09:48] <andylockran> ta
[09:51] <czajkowski> AlanBell: re cds not sure I suspect not tbh
[09:54] <doubi> Morning all. I've been searching around for details on the Super+<blah> keyboard shortcuts, but they seem to be separate to the normal ones. E.g., Super+S for the shutdown menu isn't listed in System > Preferences > Keyboard Shortcuts. Why is that?
[09:59] <Neoti|work> morning all
[10:03] <AlanBell> doubi: they might be compiz keybindings
[10:06] <doubi> AlanBell: I saw compiz bandied about in the search results, but assumed I'm not using it if I'm using out-of-the-box Gnome that comes with 10.4?
[10:07] <doubi> Is compiz an alternative to Gnome or a layer on top?
[10:07] <bigcalm> It's extra wizzy-bang stuff
[10:07] <bigcalm> "wobbly windows" and the like
[10:09] <doubi> Ah, I see. Will Google further in that direction.
[10:10] <doubi> It would be nice if Prefs > Keyboard Shortcuts could centralise all extant shortcuts. Bit unintuitive to have two separate sets.
[10:12]  * mungojerry is having to fix a laptop running vista this morning due to team member on holiday. what have i done to deserve this?
[10:13] <gord> doubi, the problem is that prefs -> keyboard shortcuts is gnome specific and compiz is multi-desktop compatible. i agree, its just not as simple as you might like to do
[10:13] <bigcalm> ~ Since you went away I've been hanging around ~
[10:14]  * bigcalm slaps some Pet Shop Boys into Spotify
[10:18] <danfish> Admitting defeat. Going home to curl up and die.
[10:18] <screen-x> danfish: s/die/sleep/
[10:18] <bigcalm> Prechance to dream
[10:18] <bigcalm> danfish: regerate soon
[10:19] <danfish> screen-x: I'll let you know which tomorrow ;)
[10:19] <danfish> bigcalm: tx
[10:19] <DJones> danfish: make sure your wife treats you well, she should be waiting on you hand & foot after giving you the flu
[10:19] <DJones> too slow
[10:22] <doubi> Thanks for the help all. Time for venturing out~
[10:24] <MooDoo> DJones: if she's like my wife, he'll get naff all sympathy
[10:25] <PeteB> Hi. How do I install the VirtualBox extension pack for USB support in Ubuntu 10.10? The GUI has no 'Extensions' section and vboxmanage doesn't understand the 'extpack' option.
[10:25] <exobuzz> add the virtualbox ppa  (listed on virtualbox site), get the latest version from there  and follow instructions from there to install usb
[10:25] <bigcalm> PeteB: there should be a seperate package that will install the extensions
[10:26] <PeteB> bigcalm: you need to use the methods I justdescribed to be able to install it though
[10:26] <exobuzz> in /etc/apt/sources.list.d add a file with deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian maverick contrib
[10:26] <bigcalm> PeteB: ignore me and follow exobuzz's suggestion then ;)
[10:26] <exobuzz> its all on here http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[10:27] <PeteB> exobuzz, are you saying that Canonical pull support for extensions from their version?
[10:27] <bigcalm> The package maintainer might be a little lax
[10:27] <exobuzz> PeteB,  i cant remember what version is in maverick and it might be different
[10:27] <exobuzz> it might be ose edition,
[10:27] <exobuzz> the usb stuff was changed in virtualbox 4
[10:27] <DJones> MooDoo: My wife is the opposite, if I sneeze, she keeps asking "Am I sure I should be going into work"
[10:28] <bigcalm> DJones: it's a bugger to keep my GF home if she's ill
[10:28] <exobuzz> on older virtualbox there were two editions, one with usb and one without..
[10:28] <bigcalm> Council PAs are all over worked
[10:28] <PeteB> Yeah it is the OSE edition, which is why we have to get the extension sperately. Anyway thanks for the info I'll look into it from that link.
[10:28] <exobuzz> now its a single one with usb extensions.. so your version probably is an older one that doesnt have usb support
[10:29] <exobuzz> (and doesnt understand the extension)
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[10:29] <exobuzz> the ose edition didnt have separate extensions afair
[10:29] <exobuzz> you are probably on virtualbox 3
[10:30] <PeteB> Oh yeah, it'sversion 3. I'd thought 10.10 came with 4.0, I must have misread packages.ubuntu.com. ThanksI've just installed it, it's 4.0.2 in Ubuntu 10.10
[10:30]  * exobuzz watches demos on his amiga 500
[10:30]  * MooDoo runs around to exobuzz and reminises
[10:30] <exobuzz> PeteB, i always install from vbox repositories anyway. to get the newest stuff
[10:31] <exobuzz> MooDoo, brings a tear to my eye it does.. *sniff*
[10:31] <MooDoo> exobuzz: i bet, and i gave my a1200 away a few months ago
[10:31] <exobuzz> NOoOooooooO
[10:31] <MooDoo> exobuzz: yeah fraid so....
[10:31] <exobuzz> well.. you can load up uae or something
[10:32] <MooDoo> exobuzz: yeah i do :)
[10:32] <MooDoo> can't beat a bit of chaos engine in the morning :)
[10:32] <exobuzz> last time i tried i found winuae on wine was better than any native linux versions
[10:32] <exobuzz> hehe
[10:33] <exobuzz> i like chaos engine.
[10:33] <exobuzz> 2nd one was sh*t though
[10:33] <MooDoo> yeah, alien breed was another :)
[10:34] <screen-x> while were on virtualbox... try KVM, it really is getting rather good :)
[10:34] <exobuzz> MooDoo, nice music on that
[10:36] <exobuzz> actually i might have to put it on - http://modstream.exotica.org.uk/modstream/?md5=fc3f35f48bf6089ad142f7c9f7708b1c
[10:36] <MooDoo> exobuzz: yup, i kinda miss my a1200 now lol, would of loved a accelerator card in it :)
[10:36] <MooDoo> exobuzz: awesome :)
[10:37] <DeathSling> Hi all, anyone familiar with drbd?    I'm wondering if I should be mounting the partition in /etc/fstab prior to drbd attaching itself to it
[10:38] <exobuzz> i bought a keyboard off allister brimble recently (who made the music for alien breed)
[10:38] <exobuzz> </name dropping>
[10:39] <MooDoo> :)
[10:39] <MooDoo> exobuzz: ooo this sounds familiar
[10:40] <exobuzz> this is an extended long version .. i cant remember if this was in the game or released separately on a diskmag or something. there is another long remix too he did at the time. almost 17 mins long this.
[10:40] <exobuzz> http://www.exotica.org.uk/mediawiki/index.php?title=Special%3AModland&ss=1&title=Special%3AModland&md=qsearch&qs=alien+breed+soundmon
[10:43] <MooDoo> oooo alien breed on the xbox :)
[10:43]  * czajkowski hugs Daviey 
[10:44] <Daviey> czajkowski, o/
[10:44] <Pendulum> morning
[10:48] <PeteB> Upgraded to Virtualbox 4 and everything's fine. Thanks again for the help.
[10:49] <exobuzz> MooDoo, emulator on the xbox ?
[10:49]  * exobuzz also uses winuaex occasionally
[10:50] <MooDoo> exobuzz: no a new version of alienbreed by team 17
[10:50] <exobuzz> aah.. the xbox 360 thing ?
[10:50] <MooDoo> yeah alienbreed evolution
[10:50] <exobuzz> quite pretty that.. it looks a little better than it plays perhaps but nice all the same
[10:51] <exobuzz> there is some brimble music on that too. on the credits screen. remix of the amiga tune
[10:54] <exobuzz> btw i downloaded some terrahawks to watch - you talked about it the other week and reminded me of that show. credits sequence all came back to me when i watched it
[10:58] <czajkowski> TheOpenSourcerer: http://news.enterprise-ireland.com/read/messages?id=19992#19992
[11:06] <davmor2> morning all
[11:08] <popey> morning all!
[11:08]  * czajkowski pokes davmor2 
[11:09]  * davmor2 checks for bruising
[11:09] <davmor2> morning czajkowski
[11:09] <davmor2> morning popey
[11:10] <exobuzz> mornin
[11:13] <czajkowski> if anyone has any comments or know of info out there looking for some replies http://news.enterprise-ireland.com/read/messages?id=19992#19992
[11:19] <bigcalm> popey: did you give your wife the book today?
[11:26] <popey> heheh bigcalm gave it to her days ago :)
[11:26] <bigcalm> Aha, you're not completely bonkers then :P
[11:31] <mungojerry> czajkowski, i have a comment on that story which can help compatibiltiy but i don't wanna crete a login to the forum
[11:35]  * MooDoo wonders where his hug from czajkowski is or is davmor2 just special :p
[11:36] <davmor2> MooDoo: I got poked not hugged honest
[11:37]  * davmor2 hugs czajkowski.......................................well it's valentines day if you can't be nice today we are in a sorry state :D
[11:38] <MooDoo> pah! to v day
[11:39] <bigcalm> My GF left me a card nearly as big as my keyboard on my desk this morning
[11:39] <bigcalm> I forgot to get her a card
[11:39]  * bigcalm feels silly
[11:39] <MooDoo> i got nowt
[11:39]  * DJones senses grovelling will happen later in the mr & mrs bigcalm household
[11:39]  * czajkowski just got flowers and chocolate to work
[11:39] <czajkowski> I am RED
[11:39] <bigcalm> I am taking her out for a meal tonight, hope that makes up for it
[11:40] <MooDoo> my misses hates it and so do i :)
[11:40] <bigcalm> czajkowski: Retired Extreamly Dangerous?
[11:40] <DJones> MooDoo: I hate it, but I hate earache even more
[11:40] <bigcalm> At least we agreed not to get gifts for each other
[11:41] <Oli``> bigcalm: Mine has been telling me not to get her a card all week, citing that Valentine's Day is just an event to sell cards, it's silly and we should just show our affection every day instead of setting some unruly precedent on one day of the year....
[11:41] <Oli``> ... And then leaves me a card on my desk this morning. *sigh*
[11:41] <bigcalm> Oli``: women, eh?
[11:41]  * bigcalm grins at czajkowski
[11:41] <DJones> Oli``: Its just an excuse to make you feel guilty
[11:42] <MooDoo> bigcalm: my wife said she would break my fingers if i got her a card.....i'm happy with that :)
[11:42] <Oli``> DJones: more than likely =)
[11:42] <bigcalm> Haha
[11:42]  * bigcalm ponders proposing over dinner tonight
[11:43] <MooDoo> bigcalm: really?#
[11:43] <bigcalm> MooDoo: not to you :P
[11:43] <MooDoo> bigcalm: i know that lol.......although how rude, am i not worth it ;)
[11:46] <bigcalm> I've never understood how one gets an engagement ring without them knowing to propose with
[11:46] <bigcalm> For that matter, I would need to find out what her ring size is
[11:46] <bigcalm> Married peeps: how did you do it?
[11:47] <mungojerry> i proposed with a jelly ring made of haribo
[11:47] <exobuzz> haribo rings ftw
[11:47] <dwatkins> rings can be adjusted, also: women tend to have other rings which can be measured in secret
[11:47] <bigcalm> Class!
[11:47] <mungojerry> and a massive gran prix rose
[11:47] <Oli``> bigcalm: steal some other jewellery?
[11:47] <MooDoo> which is what i did dwatkins :)
[11:47] <DJones> bigcalm: We just decided & went to the jewellers together so she could pick what she wanted
[11:47] <dwatkins> MooDoo: :D
[11:47] <bigcalm> Oli``: this is the advantage of working from home
[11:48] <mungojerry> djones yeah - she hass to wear it for life so i wanted her/us to pick
[11:48] <bigcalm> "has to"?
[11:49] <bigcalm> If I wait until next year, she might propose to me
[11:49] <Oli``> bigcalm: or take a plaster cast of her hand while she's asleep (you'll need to put a glove on her first because plaster is an irritant, if you're doing a full cast)
[11:49] <bigcalm> Oli``: bit late for that
[11:49] <mungojerry> actually going ring shopping together post-engagement is fun
[11:49] <mungojerry> we decided on 2 rings, and she chose the *smaller* diamond :)
[11:50] <bigcalm> From wikipedia: "Conventionally, the woman's ring is presented as a betrothal gift by a man to his prospective spouse while he proposes marriage or directly after she accepts his marriage proposal. It represents a formal agreement to future marriage. Rings can be bought by the man, the couple together, or by each partner for the other."
[11:50] <bigcalm> I like that thought
[11:50] <Oli``> bigcalm: take a recent photo and CSI-style build a 3D model based around known dimensions in the picture
[11:50] <bigcalm> Oli``: or take one of her existing rings to a jewllers to size
[11:50] <Oli``> bigcalm: where's the fun in that?
[11:50] <Oli``> Apply some science to the problem.
[11:50] <bigcalm> ;)
[11:51] <mungojerry> http://www.everythingusb.com/swarovski-usb-engagement-rings-14440.html
[11:51] <bigcalm> LOL
[11:52] <bigcalm> If she were a geek like me, that would be amusing
[11:52] <MartijnVdS> bigcalm: the trick is to _make_ her one :)
[11:53] <Oli``> You can't force it on her... You need to make her think that becoming a geek was her idea. Inception style
[11:53] <mungojerry> Mrs Mungojerry was the one who asked me to install ubuntu on her laptop
[11:53] <mungojerry> no cajoling..it sells itself
[11:53] <Oli``> mungojerry: impressive
[11:53] <bigcalm> I loved that film and had no problem following it in the cinema. GF was confused :S
[11:54] <Oli``> Not the most bulletproof of plots though
[11:55] <bigcalm> Sure
[11:55] <bigcalm> Really enjoyable though
[11:55] <Ng> they were robbed at the baftas!
[11:55] <bigcalm> I got the blu-ray for xmas. Looking forward to watching it again
[11:56] <Oli``> I'm giving it a good 6 months to let the "why aren't they waking up"-fury from watching in the cinema to pass
[11:57] <Oli``> Anybody here have a Samsung Q330?
[11:59] <bigcalm> Oli``: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBAuMpOpSnA
[12:06] <czajkowski> MooDoo: davmor2 http://pix.ie/czajkowski/2165190
[12:06] <MooDoo> czajkowski: awww lovely
[12:07] <davmor2> czajkowski: Don't worry inconveniences like that go away when you get married ;)
[12:08] <MooDoo> davmor2: +1  :)
[12:08] <bigcalm> Hehe
[12:08] <czajkowski> davmor2: booo
[12:08] <Baikonur> i can't find that link either on irc or twitter
[12:08] <Baikonur> oops, wrong channel
[12:11] <Myrtti> meh, getting depressed at the lecture... boo
[12:11] <czajkowski> Myrtti: *hugs*
[12:11] <Myrtti> atleast coffee and pastry was nice
[12:12] <Myrtti> what a sucky way to spend valentines
[12:15] <czajkowski> :(
[12:44] <gord> hope mega-drives don't take up much power, may have played some of disney's aladdin during my lunch break and just paused so i can finish this evening
[12:46] <andylockran> that subway was lovely :)
[13:23] <andylockran> hey guys, I've got three DNS servers setup for a domain
[13:23] <andylockran> one is master, two are slaves off it.
[13:24] <jpds> Sounds standard.
[13:24] <andylockran> if the master goes down, I'd expect the slaves to continue to serve the DNS, but when the master goes down both slaves stop serving for the domain too
[13:26] <mungojerry> sounds like the slaves are misconfigured just to forward requests  to the master
[13:28] <mungojerry> either that or they don't have a copy of the zone files? can you specify a slave server in nslookup/dig  and query hosts?
[13:28] <andylockran> http://dpaste.com/415638/
[13:28] <andylockran> they have the zone files, and they look right - even when the master is taken down
[13:30] <TheOpenSourcerer> Nokia shares are down 20 percent  since the middle of last week when news of the deal leaked, hitting a  six-month low: http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/Nokia-Microsoft-tie-gets-reuters_molt-410195743.html?x=0&.v=1
[13:33] <Myrtti> meh
[13:34] <mungojerry> andylockran, dunno - worth turning logging up high - also check that transfers are allowed in master config, and DNS ports tcp and udp are allowed in iptables
[13:34] <andylockran> ah
[13:34] <andylockran> I think it's the expiry parameter
[13:35] <andylockran> need to set that high, then if the master is down the slaves can continue being authoritative for longer than the TTL
[13:35] <andylockran> that makes sense right?
[13:39] <mungojerry> what's your current ttl
[13:42] <TheOpenSourcerer> Oooh - a 3D Android smartphone from LG... http://mashable.com/2011/02/14/lg-optimus-3d-hands-on/
[13:42] <TheOpenSourcerer> shiny.
[13:53] <BigRedS> my samsung's 3d...
[13:56] <rtyuio> hello
[13:56] <rtyuio> there
[13:56] <rtyuio> this is the error what i got :  http://paste.ubuntu.com/566966/
[13:57] <czajkowski> why is there no alanbell
[13:57] <rtyuio> what i have to do ?
[14:06] <BigRedS> rtyuio: is this on real-life hardware, or a virtual machine?
[14:06] <BigRedS> if it's real hardware (a mac?), running  sudo grub-mkdevicemap    *might* fix that
[14:08] <BigRedS> Happens especially after a kernel upgrade where /dev/hd** become /dev/sd**. Grub checks its map (/boot/grub/device.map) and doesn't find an sda, since the last time it was run sda was hda
[14:14] <TheOpenSourcerer> czajkowski: AlanBell has fallen off the Internet.
[14:14] <czajkowski> :(
[14:14] <TheOpenSourcerer> His ISP is not working.
[14:14] <BigRedS> Damn ip4 exhaustion
[14:14] <czajkowski> TheOpenSourcerer: ahh ok
[14:16] <screen-x> BigRedS: I've decided its not ipv4 exhaustion thats the problem, its lack of ipv6 uptake..
[14:17] <DJones> chickens pecked through the phone line :)
[14:18] <BigRedS> screen-x: well, yeah. I suppose it's that the wrong one came first
[14:18] <TheOpenSourcerer> DJones: No. His broadband circuit is up, training and authenticating OK. No traffic will pass though. Upstream from the DSLAM/RADIUS servers me thinks.
[14:18] <directhex> TheOpenSourcerer, sounds like IPv4 exhaustion. THE WEBPOCALYPSE HAS COME! REPENT ALL YOUR SUBNETS!
[14:19] <rtyuio> virtual  machine BigRedS
[14:20]  * TheOpenSourcerer has just ordered a new bigboy server from our hosting provider that comes with IPv6 addresses :-) 24G RAM, Hex Core i7-980x, 2x 1.5TB...
[14:20]  * popey waves his /8 IP around
[14:20] <BigRedS> rtyuio: it'd still be worth trying that and then a grub-update. If not, check with whoever provides the vm that they're not doing something that doesn't require grub - I know slicehost don't
[14:21]  * TheOpenSourcerer is liking the look of the Samsung Galaxy S II when his free upgrade comes in June.
[14:21] <screen-x> popey: v4 or v6 :p
[14:21] <popey> v4
[14:21] <TheOpenSourcerer> http://news.techworld.com/mobile-wireless/3260855/samsung-launches-galaxy-s-ii/
[14:21] <czajkowski> TheOpenSourcerer: what no more brick ?
[14:21] <popey> slab
[14:21] <bigcalm> popey: 192.168. ?
[14:21] <TheOpenSourcerer> I'll probably keep it too.
[14:21] <jpds> popey: Go go 10./8.
[14:21] <screen-x> bigcalm: that would be /16
[14:22] <BigRedS> there's never anything interesting at 127/8
[14:22] <TheOpenSourcerer> I do like the Streak - a lot.
[14:22] <bigcalm> screen-x: I don't know about the /# thing
[14:22] <czajkowski> TheOpenSourcerer: odd odd
[14:22] <TheOpenSourcerer> But we get a free h/w upgrade every 12months so it's a shame to not use it.
[14:22] <czajkowski> aye
[14:22] <popey> jpds: 13.
[14:22] <screen-x> !info ipcalc |bigcalm
[14:23] <popey> heheh, the samsung S II _still_ has a lower screen res than an iPhone :D
[14:23] <screen-x> bigcalm: that explains it really well
[14:23] <rtyuio> what i have to do technically ? BigRedS
[14:23] <BigRedS> I'm still amused by the difference between the high-res iphone4 and really low-res ipad
[14:24] <BigRedS> rtyuio: sudo grub-mkdevicemap
[14:24] <BigRedS> rtyuio: sudo update-grub
[14:24] <TheOpenSourcerer> But it isn't a fruit popey (Unless there is some bizarre fruit called a Samsung).
[14:24]  * TheOpenSourcerer Thinks about a phone called a Durian
[14:24] <popey> Durian Durian!
[14:24] <popey> The Reflex!
[14:24] <popey> flex flex flex flex flex!
[14:24] <popey> etc
[14:24] <czajkowski> relax don't do it
[14:25] <davmor2> popey: is that like Duran Duran?
[14:26] <TheOpenSourcerer> davmor2: gets the boiley award for today.
[14:26] <rtyuio> this is what i got : /proc/devices: No entry for device-mapper found
[14:26] <rtyuio> /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a GRUB drive for /dev/sda1.  Check your device.map.
[14:27] <popey> i refuse to explain my joke lest it no longer be "funny"
[14:28] <TheOpenSourcerer> "funny" is definitely in the eye of the beholder in this instance.
[14:30] <popey> ah well
[14:31] <BigRedS> rtyuio: which version of ubuntu are you running? Is this bug 526045 ?
[14:34] <danfish> hah, just been offered a job on the Falkland Islands
[14:34]  * BigRedS wants to go to the falkland islands
[14:34] <danfish> internet a tad pricy http://www.cwfi.co.fk/
[14:34] <DJones> danfish: One way trip?
[14:34]  * BigRedS changes his mind a bit
[14:35] <danfish> DJones: it will be if I don't cook a romantic meal 2nite :D
[14:36] <DJones> danfish: Shouldn't you be tucked up in bed being waited on hand & foot, after all, it wasn't your fault somebody gave you the flu
[14:37] <danfish> DJones: that's a point. There is one fatal flaw - my wife cannot cook at all, zip, nada, nothing
[14:38] <DJones> Takeaway?
[14:39] <kazade> danfish, she can learn ;)
[14:40] <danfish> DJones: bingo
[14:40] <danfish> kazade: it has been attempted but always end in a burnt mess or food poisoning
[14:40] <danfish> sometimes even both
[14:44] <kazade> lol
[14:48]  * TheOpenSourcerer is reminded of the the theme tune to "Butterflies"... 
[14:48]  * TheOpenSourcerer is sometimes heard summing this to his wife after a kitchen calamity.
[14:48] <TheOpenSourcerer> s/summing/humming
[14:49] <czajkowski> http://i.imgur.com/dMX1f.png  <-- grin :)
[14:49] <czajkowski> TheOpenSourcerer: what have you done now...
[14:50] <TheOpenSourcerer> Me? Nothing much. I was reading danfish 's tales of mrs danfish 's cooking skills.
[14:50] <screen-x> Mrs danfish& I must be at about the same level...
[14:51] <TheOpenSourcerer> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butterflies_%28TV_series%29
[14:53] <bigcalm> I love it when iTunes freezes after finishing a video podcast
[14:53] <screen-x> bigcalm: whatever floats your boat...
[14:53] <bigcalm> I lie
[14:56] <bigcalm> popey: do you know how much mates rates is going up to with the VM price increase?
[15:00] <mungojerry> danfish , did you know this before you got married?
[15:01] <popey> bigcalm: no idea
[15:01] <bigcalm> If we lose mates rates, I think Heyley wants us to move to Sky
[15:01] <bigcalm> :S
[15:01] <popey> ewww
[15:02] <danfish> mungojerry: ay
[15:03] <directhex> i want Sky 3D, but cannot justify the massive cost of the 1TB box, nor paying hundreds per year on sports channels i will never watch
[15:05] <mungojerry> my PVR wiped itself the other day :(
[15:05] <mungojerry> lost 250gb of recordings
[15:05] <DJones> mungojerry: Ouch
[15:05] <mungojerry> lost all the battle of britain 70th anniversary programmes too :( have to wait another 5 years for that
[15:07] <kazade> my gf just started working at Sky, we get free Sky+ HD :D
[15:07] <kazade> ... and phone and broadband
[15:09] <mungojerry> i find it funny how everyone is supposed to hate murdoch but love steve jobs
[15:09] <popey> "everyone" ?
[15:10] <popey> you can choose an apple product, for sports fans there is little choice
[15:10] <mungojerry> yeah thats what we're told ... you must all hate murdoch and love jobs
[15:10] <mungojerry> popey i choose to go to the games instead :P
[15:10] <mungojerry> also i think norwegian satellite is now legal..as per judge ruling last month
[15:10] <mungojerry> jobs and murdoch are both tyrants thoguh
[15:11] <mungojerry> murdoch should start a cult
[15:12] <TheOpenSourcerer> Hmm, as much as I dislike Apple's strategy and (IMHO) abuse of Free Software, I don't recall being told to hate or love SJ. And I would presonally think a dinner or few beers with either of them would be fun and enlightening.
[15:13] <mungojerry> except they would buy you cider and tell you you're holding it wrong if you say yo wanted beer
[15:13] <mungojerry> :P
[15:13] <TheOpenSourcerer> lol: http://techcrunch.com/2011/02/14/watch-steve-jobs-gets-kicked-in-the-face-by-the-lg-optimus-pad/
[15:15] <mungojerry> inicdentally on another topic i just compiled the board on natty, have been playing with it: https://live.gnome.org/TheBoardProject
[15:15] <mungojerry> that's shome shexy shoftware
[15:16] <mungojerry> uupc should interview this guy :P
[15:24] <directhex> TheOpenSourcerer, i want to see WebOS succeed. I'm still not happy with android on a technical or user level
[15:33] <andylockran> hey guys - anyone setup multi-master IMAP and has any tips/
[15:38] <screen-x> haha, user just asked me to look through the backups for an email he'd deleted, searched for a while till he remembered it was a letter he'd been sent..
[15:40] <TheOpenSourcerer> directhex: Well, you know what to do... Buy WebOS phones and show them off to people.
[15:41] <directhex> TheOpenSourcerer, i plan to get a pre3
[15:44] <AlanBell> yay
[15:45] <czajkowski> AlanBell: welcome back
[15:45] <AlanBell> did you miss me?
[15:45] <DJones> Miss who?
[15:45] <andylockran> screen-x: that made me laugh
[15:46] <AlanBell> reconfigured my network, all going out through a mobile broadband dongle now
[15:46]  * AlanBell grumbles at ADSL fail
[15:47] <popey>   ____          _   _       _
[15:47] <popey>  / ___|___  ___| |_| |_   _| |
[15:47] <popey> | |   / _ \/ __| __| | | | | |
[15:47] <popey> | |__| (_) \__ \ |_| | |_| |_|
[15:47] <popey>  \____\___/|___/\__|_|\__, (_)
[15:47] <popey>                       |___/
[15:47] <bigcalm> Ug
[15:47]  * popey consumes more bandwidth than is strictly necessary to say that word, knowing AlanBell is on 3g :)
[15:47] <popey> <- spoiler
[15:47] <AlanBell> popey Daviey http://ubuntu-uk.org/ Error establishing a database connection
[15:48] <popey> ooo, what happened there
[15:48] <AlanBell> good job it is TheOpenSourcerer's 3G
[15:48] <popey> box looks hosed
[15:48] <popey> i reckon it's apache OOMing again
[15:48] <Pendulum> AlanBell: yay, you're back!
[15:48] <AlanBell> wasn't me
[15:48] <popey> or rather the kernel OOMing and killing mysql
[15:48] <DJones> For anybody not on the mailing list for ubuntu-uk (Why not) This is worth reading https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-uk/2011-February/028779.html
[15:48] <popey> (because php / apache and/or wordpress is eating too much ram)
[15:49] <AlanBell> Pendulum I knew someone would miss me :)
[15:49] <popey> [525507.235254] Out of memory: kill process 7767 (apache2) score 15715 or a child
[15:49] <popey> [525507.235272] Killed process 7767 (apache2)
[15:49] <popey> yup!
[15:50] <popey> Daviey / X3N mind if I switch from apache to lighty on ubuntu uk box?
[15:50] <TheOpenSourcerer> moar RAM popey
[15:50] <popey> I believe it's a memory leak in php 5.3 or apache
[15:50] <popey> not been able to nail it down
[15:53] <X3N> popey: could be mysql
[15:54] <popey> it isnt
[15:54] <X3N> imo though for future flexibility sticking with apache might be better
[15:54]  * BigRedS blames PHP
[15:54] <BigRedS> but I always do
[15:54] <popey> i had the exact same issue on my vps
[15:54] <popey> fought it for months
[15:54] <popey> switched from apache to lighty, issue gone
[15:55] <popey> its some combination of apache / php / wordpress 3.x
[15:55] <andylockran> hey ho guys.
[15:55] <andylockran> and gals
[15:55] <X3N> are we using the distro wordpress?
[15:55] <andylockran> wondering what the best setup is for multi-server imap store.
[15:55] <popey> upstream
[15:56] <andylockran> :p
[15:56] <BigRedS> popey: you don't have any more details do you? Assuming some of our wordpress users upgrade we'll have hundreds of that sort of setup soon
[15:56] <popey> I dont
[15:56] <popey> I did some testing and was able to reliably cause apache to eat _all_ ram using specific wordpres URLs
[15:56] <BigRedS> eeek. Time for some VMs methinks.
[15:57] <X3N> there are no packages installed for wordpress
[15:57] <popey> X3N: observe my answer to your question above
[15:57] <popey> 15:55:20 < X3N> are we using the distro wordpress?
[15:57] <popey> 15:55:25 < popey> upstream
[15:57] <X3N> ah, then we should use the distro version
[15:57] <popey> no
[15:58] <X3N> why not?
[15:58] <BigRedS> 'cause it'll be ancient
[15:58] <popey> old mc old
[15:58] <BigRedS> wordpress *really* wants to be kept up to date, much more so than you can do with distro packages
[15:58] <X3N> but stable and supported with security updates
[15:58] <popey> we update it regularly
[15:58] <popey> as and when security updates occur
[16:00] <X3N> better to get them through the distro imo
[16:00] <popey> well, we disagree on that
[16:00] <popey> and this has been in place for over 3 years
[16:00] <BigRedS> Themes etc. prefer wordpress-from-wordpress
[16:01] <popey> the time to suggest that we used a different version of wordpress was probably around 1000 days ago.
[16:02] <BigRedS> haha
[16:02] <X3N> well if the only thing we can change is the server, if a bit drastic, so it's really a non-choice
[16:02] <popey> well, having mentioned previously that I have seen this issue on another 10.04 VPS with the same software stack..
[16:02] <popey> and replacing the webserver made the issue go away
[16:03] <popey> the problem is diagnosing memory issues on a php app is _hard_
[16:03] <ubuntuuk-planet> [Jamie Bennett] Tracking open source projects in Linaro - http://www.linuxuk.org/2011/02/tracking-open-source-projects-in-linaro/
[16:03] <X3N> The app shouldn't be able to run the system out of ram anyway
[16:03] <X3N> php is supposed to handle memory managment in a sane way
[16:03] <popey> correct
[16:03] <popey> welcome to my world about a year ago.
[16:03] <BigRedS> It's mostly immaterial. If you ulimit it or whatever it still hits the limit and the php stops
[16:04] <X3N> changing the websever shouldn't fix this really
[16:05] <popey> and reverting to wordpress 2.old will?
[16:06] <X3N> maybe, there might be some kind of obscure bug that is only triggered in new versions
[16:06] <directhex> old wordpress == almost hacked wordpress
[16:06] <popey> well I agree on that point, the issue only arose when I upgraded to wordpress 3.x
[16:07] <popey> however it is entirely possible that the issue is triggerd _in_ php or apache as a result of a code change in wp 3.x
[16:07] <popey> so the upshot is, either someone invests a significant amount of time debugging the issue.. or something else yet to be suggested
[16:07] <popey> or we switch to lighty which has been proven not to have this issue
[16:08] <popey> (but may have other issues as yet not identified)
[16:10] <X3N> just looking at the config i have on my vps
[16:26]  * AlanBell has servers running current wordpress on apache with no apparent issues
[16:29] <Azelphur> is google still doing the thing where they pay you to switch people to firefox?
[16:37] <mgdm> Anyone who's having WP issues - I'd be interested in trying to work out what's going on there
[16:38] <Myrtti> I find it annoying that I can't tell if the wp vulnerability checkup plugin is safe to use on a shell provider hosted wp
[16:38] <mgdm> I've never seen anyone complain about similar who wasn't runnning Ubuntu packages, so i wonder if it's one of the distro specific patches that does it
[16:38] <Myrtti> I don't want it to trawl through all the files on the webhost
[16:39] <X3N> popey: can we put php into debug mode and log it and then have a look?
[16:40] <mgdm> actually
[16:40] <mgdm> can someone who has php5-dev installed, pastebin the output of 'php-config' from the shell?
[16:43] <popey> X3N: I don't know, can we?
[16:47] <X3N> well it's up to you as you're the user of wordpress
[16:47] <popey> I am?
[16:47] <popey> the whole site is wordpress
[16:49] <X3N> oh right, we've moved over
[16:51] <bigcalm> mgdm: php-config
[16:52] <mgdm> bigcalm: eh?
[16:52] <bigcalm> Oops
[16:52] <bigcalm> mgdm: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/567042/
[16:52] <bigcalm> Paste fail :(
[16:53] <mgdm> hehe
[16:58]  * DJones realises that with 30 minutes of the working day left, he hasn't opened his email client...Oops
[16:59] <bigcalm> Nice
[17:00] <bigcalm> I used to fail like that (for maybe half a day). But now I have gmail widgets on my desk top and can't escape newemail
[17:06] <DJones> bigcalm: There was  agrand total of 2 new emails, one of which was a marketing/spam email & the other was just a forwarded mail from one of my assistants to keep me informed :)
[17:50] <BigRedS> I do wish dpkg would say *which* script failed...
[18:24] <jacobw> Evening
[18:39] <andylockran> howdy
[18:43] <hazrpg> afternoon
[18:44] <hazrpg> evening rather
[18:49] <dutchie> loadavg plz2be going down kthxbai
[18:59] <lazarus_> skype is now in the partner repo but how would I enable it from terminal
[19:02] <AlanBell> edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:02] <AlanBell> and uncomment the lines relating to the partner repo, then sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get install skype
[19:03]  * AlanBell should turn on parts as well as joins
[19:26] <hazrpg> Hmm, I just removed OpenJDK, icedtea, web start, and replaced with sun-java6-jre, jdk, plugin... but yeah "java -version" still reports its using OpenJDK?
[19:32] <directhex> dpkg-reconfigure --config java
[19:33] <hazrpg> are you sure that's not: update-alternative --config java ?
[19:33] <hazrpg> because the one you gave me said config was incorrect?
[19:34] <hazrpg> (just found above command in google, but was just about to ask just in case)
[19:36] <hazrpg> Ah that sorted it :)
[19:36] <hazrpg> woot :)
[19:36] <czajkowski> Aloha
[19:37] <Pendulum> hiya czajkowski
[19:40]  * hazrpg 's prolificness with terminal has increased by 1!
[19:42] <hazrpg> Right, can someone please help me with my keyboard issue - can't seem to find an answer to it anywhere :(, yet I've been using the keyboard for years and ubuntu 10.10 just seems to hate me pressing the main enter key. The main enter key just won't response at all :(
[19:42] <hazrpg> nor any of my media keys
[19:42] <hazrpg> respond*
[19:44] <hazrpg> lsusb shows me my keyboard: Bus 008 Device 004: ID 1038:0100 Ideazon, Inc. Zboard
[19:45] <hazrpg> but if I'm not mistaken, Bus 008 Device 003: ID 03eb:3301 Atmel Corp. at43301 4-Port Hub, is also part of my keyboard (it has 2 USB ports on the front of it)
[19:47] <hazrpg> xev response to most keys, the only one's that don't seem to do anything is: Main big enter key, vol-up, vol-down, vol-mute, previous, stop, play/pause, calc, etc
[19:48] <hazrpg> its really frustrating
[19:48] <hazrpg> mainly just the enter key
[19:52] <penguin42> oh never heard of an enter key that doesn't work
[19:52] <moreati> hazrpg: Have you positively confirmed that the enter key still works outside Ubuntu? i.e. are you certain that the physical key still works?
[19:52] <hazrpg> penguin42: I think the issue with this keyboard is it can have the keyset taken off and changed at will
[19:53] <hazrpg> moreati: works fine in Window 7
[19:54] <penguin42> hazrpg: wireshark can sniff usb - see what happens
[19:54] <moreati> hazrpg: what do you mean that the keyset can be changed?
[19:55] <hazrpg> moreati: its a Zboard, by the now owned SteelSeries company
[19:55] <hazrpg> however I've never had an issue in ubuntu until yesterday when I put ubuntu 10.10
[19:55] <hazrpg> problem is also in ubuntu 10.04 too
[19:56] <hazrpg> moreati: the keyset is interchangeable - since its a gaming keyboard
[19:56] <hazrpg> penguin42: just installing now to see what happens, been a while since I used wireshark for anything
[19:57] <moreati> hazrpg: you mean the physical keys can be moved around the keyboard, or the mapping from keys to keycodes?
[19:57] <DJones> hazrpg: programmable keyboard?
[19:57] <penguin42> hazrpg: The 'evtest' pacakge also looks promising
[19:58] <hazrpg> DJones: not quite, its predefined - each keyset has a chip that just tells the main keyboard controller what the button placement is, which then gets sent out to the O/S
[19:58] <hazrpg> moreati: no, the whole keyset just unclips off
[20:00] <hazrpg> penguin42: hmm, wireshark doesn't seem to see any interfaces to capture
[20:00] <penguin42> hazrpg: do it as root
[20:02] <moreati> hazrpg: sounds like it does something non-standard as a USB device, and hence needs a custom driver or driver configuration. File a bug, but I wouldn't hold too much hope
[20:03] <DJones> hazrpg: Azelphur Might be able to help, I seem to remember him having a programmable keyboard, maybe he's come across something that might help
[20:03] <shauno> only thing I could offer is to try booting with atkbd.softraw=0.  that should at least get the unknown scancodes shown up on xev,
[20:07] <hazrpg> shauno: how would i do that?
[20:08] <shauno> I'd hit e to edit the command line in grub .. you can set it on the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT line in /etc/default/grub, but that'll make it a bit more permenant, which I don't like to do until I know it works
[20:10] <shauno> actually, I'd be tempted to try thru the steps in https://wiki.kubuntu.org/LaptopTesting/Keycodes   first
[20:11] <shauno> (yes I know it's not a laptop keyboard, but it is a weird usb keyboard, which tends to be the problem with laptop keyboards)
[20:12] <hazrpg> penguin42: hmm, i don't know what i'm looking for in wireshark for usb devices dude
[20:16] <DJones> Isn't wireshark for network interfaces
[20:19] <hazrpg> DJones: you can capture stuff in usb interfaces too
[20:19] <hazrpg> some guy has managed to make a plugin for wireshark to capture bluetooth too now :)
[20:20] <hazrpg> same guy even made his own usb bluetooth dongle which allows it to go into "monitor mode" so that he can just grab random packets that are flying around in the area
[20:20] <DJones> Interesting, I'd only heard of it in regard to network interfaces
[20:20] <hazrpg> yeah, because most only want it for sniffing packets ^^
[20:21] <hazrpg> DJones: You might be interested in this, http://www.hak5.org/episodes/episode-824 <== its the custom "hack" hardware for sniffing bluetooth devices
[20:22] <hazrpg> it can be made at home too, since he's open-sourced how the hardware is put together
[20:22] <DJones> hazrpg: That might be interesting if I had a machine with bluetooth :)
[20:22] <hazrpg> or rather the chips, circuits, etc
[20:22] <hazrpg> still worth a watch ;)
[20:23] <hazrpg> guy explains everything about it, and how bluetooth hasn't been checked for vulnerabilities for years since no one has ever made a piece of hardware to go into monitor mode - much like wifi has (except putting something in monitor mode on wifi has been around on most hardware)
[20:24] <MartijnVdS> hazrpg: lots of cool bluetooth sniffing hardware out there :)
[20:24]  * MartijnVdS works with several h4x0rs like that :)
[20:25] <Azelphur> woa that was weird, my LAN just randomly went down
[20:25] <Azelphur> and then randomly came back up again
[20:25] <Azelphur> my router has 10 days uptime what is this madness
[20:26] <Azelphur> anyway hazrpg ewww, zboard
[20:26] <hazrpg> penguin42: dude, here's my captures from wireshark: http://www.hazrpg.co.uk/wireshark/enter-key http://www.hazrpg.co.uk/wireshark/num-enter-key http://www.hazrpg.co.uk/wireshark/s-key
[20:28] <hazrpg> Azelphur: what? whats up with that?
[20:28] <AlanBell> woot broadband is back on \o/
[20:28]  * AlanBell reconfigures
[20:28] <Azelphur> hazrpg: nowhere near as good as the logitech hardware for the same price
[20:28] <hazrpg> AlanBell: \o/ hurray!
[20:29] <hazrpg> Azelphur: why do you assume I paid full price for it?
[20:29] <Azelphur> fair enough :p
[20:29] <hazrpg> :P
[20:29] <Azelphur> but yea, no idea on getting that running sorry :(
[20:30] <hazrpg> its weird though, because I've been using this for years... and I don't understand why it doesn't like it now
[20:30] <hazrpg> think it could be the BIOS that's causing it?
[20:30] <hazrpg> since the enter key doesn't work in CMOS either, and it use to on my old machine
[20:30] <Azelphur> *shrug*
[20:35] <shauno> hazrpg: what does showkey -k  return for each of those 3 keys  (return, enter & 's')
[20:36] <penguin42> hazrpg: Sorry, I don't know enough about USB to decode it
[20:38] <AlanBell> !ping
[20:38] <MartijnVdS> !pong
[20:38] <AlanBell> yay
[20:38] <MartijnVdS> AlanBell: you have int0rwebs!
[20:40] <shauno> hazrpg: and showkey -s if you could too, altho that's likely to be an ugly lump you'll want to paste somewhere
[20:40] <hazrpg> shauno: s = 31 (pressed/released), num-enter-key = 96, main enter = nothing
[20:43] <hazrpg> shauno: http://paste.ubuntu.com/567110/
[20:44] <hazrpg> the enter key just isn't reporting anything at all
[20:45] <hazrpg> hmm, have I missed any other suggestions...
[20:45] <hazrpg> *scrolls up for a bit*
[20:48] <MartijnVdS> Great
[20:48] <MartijnVdS> I reported 2 bugs
[20:48] <MartijnVdS> and now the apport retracing service has marked them as duplicates
[20:49] <MartijnVdS> of "secret" bugs that I can't access
[20:49] <MartijnVdS> ಠ_ಠ
[20:51] <shauno> I do think that softraw option is going to help to show scancodes that aren't recognised, but I don't know where you edit the kernel's boot parameters anymore
[20:53] <shauno> (since 2.6.x lies about scancodes it doesn't recognise)
[20:53] <penguin42> hazrpg: Ther eis an event layer debug option in the kernel you could try
[20:54] <hazrpg> cool, how would I do that?
[20:55] <penguin42> hazrpg: I think it's CONFIG_HID_DEBUG in the kernel if you're building one
[20:56] <penguin42> hazrpg: Did you try the evtest package
[20:56] <penguin42> DJones: It seems to have gained USB capture
[21:11] <czajkowski> Pendulum: PING!!!!!!!!!!!
[21:12] <czajkowski> Bigcalm popped the questions, his gf said yes!
[21:12] <czajkowski> re this mornings conversation in here
[21:13] <DJones> \o/
[21:13] <czajkowski> :)
[21:13] <czajkowski> wonder did he use the haribo
[21:13] <DJones> Heh
[21:15] <Pendulum> didn't he say he went out and bought it?
[21:16] <czajkowski> no I remember he was going for a walk...
[21:16] <Pendulum> oh, I thought I saw him mention having bought haribou somehwere
[21:16] <czajkowski> ohh
[21:40] <DJones> Interesting new add on for google chrome http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/02/new-chrome-extension-block-sites-from.html
[21:41] <BigRedS> oooh
[21:42] <DJones> searching for "windows xp" gives me the option to "block microsoft.com" :)
[21:42] <ali1234> cool, i've wanted that for ages
[21:43] <ali1234> i hope someone makes a firefox version though because i hate chrome
[21:44] <ali1234> or even better just allow any logged in user to do this
[21:45] <ali1234> first i would block all those stupid datasheet sites where it is just a list of filenames and no download links
[21:50] <hazrpg> right, sod this for a game of soldiers, I have a feeling its the BIOS - so I'm going to update to the latest firmware - if I don't reappear in about half hr... I've probably broken my system lol.
[21:52] <hazrpg> ooo apparently 0802 fixes the "Logitech G1 Keyboard may not be detected" issue... so hopefully that might fix mine too
[21:53] <ali1234> what keyboard do you have?
[21:53] <hazrpg> its a zboard
[21:53] <hazrpg> (but not the zboard merc, its the regular - original zboard)
[21:53] <ali1234> bios update will only add keyboard detection in the bios
[21:53] <ali1234> legacy mode
[21:55] <hazrpg> yeah but the enter key is non-responsive in applications booted up after bios (i haven't a clue what you'd call these, but e.g. ubuntu alt-install, memtest, etc)
[21:55] <hazrpg> even in the CMOS it doesn't pick it up it would seem
[21:56] <hazrpg> but i never had problems with my keyboard in the past, and i'm wondering if the new hardware is the cause
[21:57] <ali1234> could be
[21:58] <ali1234> memtest for sure uses legacy mode
[21:58] <hazrpg> won't hurt to do a bios update anyways, will it?
[21:58] <hazrpg> the one I have is 0505 and the current one is 0802
[21:59] <hazrpg> thats alot of updates
[22:00] <hazrpg> It has an application in the BIOS to flash it by holding ALT+F2 at the start, which is meant to stop it from being bricked if problems happen if I recall
[22:05] <hazrpg> brb
[22:06] <KrimZon> ali1234: firefox has an extension called OptimizeGoogle which can do that
[22:06] <KrimZon> among other thigns
[22:06] <ali1234> cool
[22:06] <ali1234> i will check it out, thanks
[22:24] <hazrpg> well it now makes a "clicky" noise from the motherboard speaker when I hit the hit in legacy applications
[22:25] <hazrpg> however ubuntu still isn't happy with using my enter key :(
[22:37] <hazrpg> *sigh*
[23:30] <moreati> hazrpg: file a bug if you haven't already, even if just for completeness
[23:31] <hazrpg> I will after I do one more check, going to test out a liveCD of some older ubuntu's since I'm sure it use to work under one of them - if it doesn't then I don't know whats up lol
[23:32] <hazrpg> then file a bug regardless :P
[23:33] <moreati> hazrpg: good plan, also worth testing 10.10 live cd and latest natty ISO if you have the motivation/time
[23:34] <hazrpg> I'm currently in 10.10
[23:34] <hazrpg> but i'll defo test under natty tho :)
[23:35] <moreati> hazrpg: it's possible the live cd behaves differently to an installed/update system
[23:35] <hazrpg> good point...