| jdeslip | Good evening all | 02:32 |
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| grantbow | good evening | 02:32 |
| rww | evenin' | 02:32 |
| grantbow | looks like just Scale9x planning on the agenda https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/11February13 | 02:34 |
| jdeslip | Yep | 02:37 |
| grantbow | Seems to me we should add Scale to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ConferenceAppearances pretty soon. | 02:45 |
| grantbow | per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ConferenceTopTips do people have tally counters such as http://images.google.com/images?q=tally+counter ? | 02:54 |
| jdeslip | I don't, wonders if there is an android "app for that" | 02:55 |
| grantbow | good idea, I'll look. | 02:56 |
| grantbow | They are less than $10 on Amazon or eBay and won't crash :-) | 02:56 |
| grantbow | if not we can make one ;-) | 02:57 |
| grantbow | quite a few in the market | 02:57 |
| akk | I have a linux program to do that, if you want to dedicate a laptop to it. :) | 02:58 |
| akk | (written for counting meteors) | 02:58 |
| * grantbow surfs the developer websites | 02:58 | |
| grantbow | akk: cool | 02:58 |
| jdeslip | Almost time for meeting | 02:58 |
| akk | http://shallowsky.com/software/tuxmeteor.html | 02:59 |
| akk | (just posting 'cause I want to show off the silly logo) | 03:00 |
| grantbow | the trouble we had in the past using them was gathering the data | 03:00 |
| akk | Getting people to remember to click them? | 03:00 |
| grantbow | akk: gnuplot, nice | 03:00 |
| akk | These days I'd use other solutions -- cairoplot makes really pretty plots. | 03:01 |
| jdeslip | Ok, everyone here for the meeting raise your hand | 03:01 |
| akk | o/ | 03:01 |
| MarkDude | \o | 03:01 |
| grantbow | o/ | 03:01 |
| jdeslip | Ok, hopefully some people trickle in during the hour. | 03:02 |
| jdeslip | The 0th topic is (as always) announcements. Anyone have anything to announce? | 03:02 |
| philipballew | hand raised! | 03:02 |
| * eps tries to figure out which left is my left | 03:03 | |
| Eureka | wiki: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects edited | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/Scale9x edited | 03:03 |
| jdeslip | David Wonderly mentioned that the week for Feb 28 is Ubuntu developer week | 03:04 |
| jdeslip | If you want to attend, please check out the mailing list | 03:04 |
| jdeslip | and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek | 03:04 |
| ishimeru | Good evening everyone. | 03:05 |
| jdeslip | Any other announcements? | 03:05 |
| jdeslip | If not, we will move on to our only agenda item for tonight. SCALE9X planning. | 03:06 |
| jdeslip | SCALE is less than 2 weeks from tonight | 03:06 |
| jdeslip | We will have booth at the expo on Saturday and Sunday the 26th and 27th | 03:06 |
| jdeslip | And on friday their will be an Ubucon. | 03:07 |
| jdeslip | If nhaines is around, perhaps he can briefly discuss the ubucon and what (if anything) is needed. | 03:07 |
| jdeslip | (Thanks A LOT nhaines for making this happen and taking the lead) | 03:07 |
| jdeslip | OK, if nhaines pops in later, we can disucss the ubucon, if not - I'm assuming enough speakers got back to him and we can disucss any necessary planning on the list. | 03:10 |
| jdeslip | Moving on to our booth... | 03:10 |
| jdeslip | The main thing we want to confirm tonight is the demo boxes | 03:10 |
| jdeslip | MarkDude: Can you confirm the demo boxes you are bringing and whether they will be at the ubuntu table | 03:11 |
| jdeslip | I know you are contributing to other tables as well | 03:11 |
| MarkDude | Sry yes | 03:12 |
| jdeslip | Also for those following along the scale planning is found on the wiki here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/Scale9x | 03:12 |
| jdeslip | Please add your name if you are coming and bringing anything | 03:12 |
| * MarkDude has 2 machines- the other has iied and most likely needs pats | 03:12 | |
| dragonoid | o/ | 03:12 |
| jdeslip | Can you describe the two machines? And will they be at the Ubuntu table the entire expo? | 03:13 |
| jdeslip | or are they on a timeshare ;) | 03:13 |
| MarkDude | both of the machines are there full time | 03:13 |
| jdeslip | OK, can you add them to the wiki page with a description | 03:14 |
| MarkDude | The Dell and the the compaq on the page already | 03:14 |
| MarkDude | I may need to scratch the Strata | 03:14 |
| iheartubuntu | are CD sleeves still needed? I can update the old artwork to be for 10.10 discs (or whatever is needed) | 03:15 |
| jdeslip | Ah, I see, guess they are not in the table | 03:15 |
| jdeslip | iheartubuntu - yes, we still need the sleeve design to be updated. | 03:15 |
| * MarkDude will move them to correct place- as pleia2 reminded me to- and I forgot :P | 03:15 | |
| grantbow | iheartubuntu: that would be greatly appreciated | 03:15 |
| iheartubuntu | ok - i will do it. | 03:15 |
| iheartubuntu | are these printed in b/w or color? | 03:16 |
| jdeslip | basically we just want the sleeves to include checkboxes for the next several releases (instead of last several releases) | 03:16 |
| jdeslip | iheartubuntu: both | 03:16 |
| jdeslip | I am going to try to pring about 100 in color | 03:16 |
| jdeslip | but often they are printed in black and white for cost | 03:16 |
| iheartubuntu | on what sort of paper? | 03:17 |
| jdeslip | 8-1/2-11 | 03:17 |
| jdeslip | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/CDSleeves | 03:17 |
| jdeslip | You can just modify the design | 03:17 |
| grantbow | it's in bzr | 03:17 |
| iheartubuntu | got it thx | 03:18 |
| jdeslip | Once you modify it, please send an email to list; so, I can get them printed. :) | 03:18 |
| iheartubuntu | will do. i will get this done sometime tonite | 03:19 |
| Eureka | wiki: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/Scale9x edited | 03:19 |
| jdeslip | erichammond1: are you still on track for burning 200 discs? | 03:19 |
| * erichammond1 wakes up | 03:19 | |
| jdeslip | on the wiki page it says you are down for 200 discs - it is in the blank category, but I seem to remember you saying it would be 200 burned discs | 03:20 |
| erichammond1 | um, my name is in the "blank cds" row | 03:20 |
| erichammond1 | jdeslip: wishful thinking. | 03:20 |
| rww | hehe | 03:20 |
| grantbow | haha | 03:21 |
| grantbow | 6 minutes or so each x200 is quite a bit | 03:21 |
| jdeslip | true | 03:21 |
| iheartubuntu | what version #'s do we want on the sleeve? right now its 8.04, 9.04, 9.10, and 10.04 | 03:21 |
| erichammond1 | I did spend a little time looking around for a CD printing company that would print the CDs for free with a little advertising space on them. | 03:21 |
| jdeslip | So, can anyone volunteer some burned cds? | 03:21 |
| erichammond1 | Didn't make much progress, but it seems that there might be somebody out there for future events. | 03:22 |
| jdeslip | iheartubuntu: I think 10.04 10.10 11.04 11.10 | 03:22 |
| iheartubuntu | are we burning them on CD or DVD? | 03:22 |
| rww | iheartubuntu: CD | 03:22 |
| jdeslip | CD | 03:22 |
| iheartubuntu | i ask because i have better luck with burning to DVD :) | 03:22 |
| grantbow | erichammond1: Canonical will gladly ship CDs at minimal cost for a modest donation, especially for versions they have extra of like 10.04 right now. | 03:22 |
| grantbow | I've looked into getting CDs made too and the costs are quite high in relatively low volumes | 03:23 |
| jdeslip | grantbow: We also have a conference pack that includes pressed cds | 03:23 |
| grantbow | jdeslip: I hadn't forgotten :-) | 03:23 |
| grantbow | shipit will work with us to act as a CD replicator at cost | 03:24 |
| grantbow | their cost is much lower than anything I could find | 03:24 |
| grantbow | I can check my notes | 03:24 |
| jdeslip | OK, well, it seems like we will have a lot of blank cds on hand and I believe a burning box - DarkwingDucks | 03:24 |
| erichammond1 | grantbow: I'd love to hear what "cost" is. | 03:25 |
| philipballew | would anyone just have a multiple cd burner they can lend for the weekend? | 03:25 |
| iheartubuntu | I can commit to 50 CDs. let me know what speed you want them burned to and any other info like what ISOs | 03:25 |
| grantbow | erichammond1: np | 03:25 |
| erichammond1 | I did say I could print some color sleeves (100+?) if the design is updated and somebody contacts me about it more than a day in advance. | 03:25 |
| philipballew | i can do cds as well. just need the number, version and speed | 03:26 |
| grantbow | marking CDs, printing sleeves, folding sleeves, stuffing, all of these are factors we take for "granted" in low volumes. | 03:26 |
| iheartubuntu | erichammond1 - i will post the CD sleeve file to the mailing list sometime tonite | 03:26 |
| jdeslip | iheartubuntu: thanks! can you add your name to the wiki page? | 03:26 |
| jdeslip | philipballew: the number is however much you can commit to 50? Mostly i386 desktop edition. | 03:27 |
| jdeslip | Does speed actually matter? I mean, as long as your burner can handle it? | 03:27 |
| rww | jdeslip: Higher speeds means more chance of failures. On modern equipment, I usually go with 8x. | 03:27 |
| philipballew | i can do 50. i assume this is 10.10? not to show up looking like an idiot with the wrong version | 03:27 |
| iheartubuntu | are we in need of any computers? i have an acer aspireone netbook with ubuntu 10.10 on it (desktop, unity, 2D). i can have it avail when im around. | 03:27 |
| grantbow | I do x16 speed for higher reliability - I found speed does matter. | 03:27 |
| philipballew | i have a dell studeo 10.10 ready for use if need be | 03:28 |
| iheartubuntu | not slower than 16x ? | 03:28 |
| grantbow | rww: your script rocks | 03:28 |
| jdeslip | Yes, please do 10.10 | 03:28 |
| philipballew | exelent | 03:28 |
| iheartubuntu | so 50 of 10.10? | 03:28 |
| DarkwingDuck | Hey guys, sry I'm late | 03:28 |
| jdeslip | OK, if the expert say speed matters, do 16x and lower | 03:28 |
| rww | grantbow: come to think of it, I don't remember if I merged in those changes you sent me... will go check now. | 03:28 |
| jdeslip | iheartubuntu: that would be awesome. please add your name to the wiki if you can do it. :) | 03:29 |
| grantbow | http://rww.name/scripts/cdwrite.sh | 03:29 |
| philipballew | yes. i will do 50 of 10.10 32 bit | 03:29 |
| jdeslip | great | 03:29 |
| grantbow | rww: I think it was minor, like using the configured device on all commands as I recall. | 03:29 |
| jdeslip | Does anyone have anything else to add about SCALE planning? | 03:30 |
| grantbow | short meetings are not bad - work can still get done at other times :-) | 03:30 |
| philipballew | is there a section in the wiki for burned cds or should i add one? | 03:31 |
| jdeslip | philipballew: on here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/Scale9x | 03:31 |
| philipballew | thanks | 03:31 |
| jdeslip | there is a table and row for "pre-Burned cds" | 03:31 |
| jdeslip | OK, I think we have pretty much everything covered (I will add myself as bringing the banner). | 03:32 |
| erichammond1 | It would be smart for somebody to bring a backup network switch in the event EricHammond doesn't come through or his switch fails. | 03:33 |
| jdeslip | Does anyone have anything else to add before we end the official meeting? | 03:33 |
| jdeslip | erichammond1: ya, I heard that guy is unreliable ;) | 03:33 |
| erichammond1 | ;-/ | 03:33 |
| erichammond1 | I'm a fan of redundancy | 03:33 |
| jdeslip | If anyone else can bring a switch, please add your name to the wiki | 03:33 |
| grantbow | erichammond1: good idea | 03:34 |
| jdeslip | (thinks I have spare linksys router I can bring) | 03:34 |
| grantbow | jdeslip: the one that looks best on Android from a quick inspection as a tally counter is from Nuvera Apps named T-Counter | 03:34 |
| rww | grantbow: looking at the diff, it 1) makes a couple of changes to eject calls that I think were because my burner needs some ejects that yours didn't, 2) switches the speed from 8x to 16x, and 3) disables MD5SUM checking (that I don't think we got working fully anyway?). I'll leave it for now and see if I can improve the MD5SUM stuff instead of commenting it out and cut down on the eject usage. | 03:34 |
| iheartubuntu | im too slow to update the wiki. i'll do my updating after the meeting (sorry) | 03:35 |
| rww | I'll add optional arguments for speed etc. too | 03:35 |
| jdeslip | iheartubuntu: no worries | 03:35 |
| jdeslip | erichammond1: you bringing some cat5 cable too? | 03:36 |
| DarkwingDuck | I have a single CD/DVD burner on my laptop. I will have all of the ISOs you can think of. | 03:36 |
| jdeslip | MarkDude: will you be providing your own cat5 cable for demo boxes? | 03:36 |
| iheartubuntu | will there be wi-fi available? | 03:36 |
| MarkDude | Sure what osrt of assortment should I bring? | 03:36 |
| grantbow | rww: I think I explained in my email that I didn't expect all of that to get merged - some of the need for the ejects depends on the type of burner you use (manual or automatic tray, etc). | 03:36 |
| DarkwingDuck | iheartubuntu: there is but... bandwidth is really bad | 03:37 |
| MarkDude | GK has all sorts of cables and wires and such | 03:37 |
| iheartubuntu | ok | 03:37 |
| jdeslip | MarkDude: Maybe a few 5" cables? | 03:37 |
| rww | grantbow: ah, I didn't look at the email body. indeed you did. | 03:37 |
| jdeslip | err 5' | 03:37 |
| erichammond1 | jdeslip: I don't have spare cables right now. I could buy some cheap online if needed. | 03:37 |
| MarkDude | wisdom of sages (akk) NEVER trust wifi at conferences | 03:37 |
| rww | grantbow: I think the problems with getting console beeps were actually caused by a headachy bug in compiz. I'll ping my compiz contact and see if that's still an issue. | 03:37 |
| erichammond1 | DarkwingDuck: This is a new location with multiple times more bandwidth. We don't know how good/bad it will be. | 03:38 |
| * MarkDude can bring 20 or so of that size | 03:38 | |
| iheartubuntu | 64 bit versions of 10.10 needed/wanted? | 03:38 |
| grantbow | rww: the only important thing was to get all the ejects and calls using the same /dev/ device variable so they all change at once. I tripped on that later and it might not be in the diff | 03:38 |
| DarkwingDuck | erichammond1: Aye, but if everyone is using the same connection... | 03:38 |
| MarkDude | a tethered phone would be great for scheduled times | 03:38 |
| jdeslip | MarkDude: probably 5 or so cables would be good. | 03:38 |
| jdeslip | I have a tethered phone to bring | 03:38 |
| jdeslip | MarkDude: can you add the cable to the wiki? | 03:38 |
| MarkDude | Ok, lets see if any thing else | 03:39 |
| jdeslip | OK... so, anyone have any other questions about scale? | 03:39 |
| rww | grantbow: It's not. I'll add an otpional argument for device and default it to /dev/sd0 | 03:39 |
| rww | sr0 ** | 03:39 |
| rww | (and use it in the eject calls) | 03:39 |
| MarkDude | oh, lets try to Ustream or Justin TV some stuff for Scale | 03:39 |
| erichammond1 | Does our booth have limits on network usage (number of computers, wifi broadcasting, ...)? | 03:40 |
| DarkwingDuck | Has anyone emailed nhaines to requesting a talking topic for Ubucon? | 03:40 |
| akk | rww: There's a kernel issue with console beeps too. | 03:40 |
| jdeslip | DarkwingDuck: I did and pleia2 did I think | 03:40 |
| MarkDude | tethered phone and ok cheap mic work well even on crappy bandwidth | 03:40 |
| DarkwingDuck | As did I | 03:40 |
| jdeslip | erichammond1: I am not sure they released that type of info | 03:40 |
| rww | erichammond1: If it's the same as last year, number of computers isn't an issue, but wifi wasn't allowed I think. | 03:40 |
| MarkDude | sound remains good - picture degrades | 03:40 |
| DarkwingDuck | rww: correct. We were not allowed Wifi | 03:41 |
| DarkwingDuck | other then provided wifi | 03:41 |
| erichammond1 | so my little switch only has 4 hardware ports which limits it to 4 computers with Internet access. | 03:41 |
| MarkDude | Tethered worked well withNO wifi at Scale | 03:41 |
| * MarkDude is just telling all of you to root your phone so tethering can happen | 03:42 | |
| MarkDude | :D | 03:42 |
| rww | akk: ah. I'll just comment the line out, then. | 03:42 |
| jdeslip | MarkDude: I can provide tethering if onsite internet fails | 03:42 |
| jdeslip | Ok. Let's wrap this up. Please add your name to the wiki if you made a commitment to discs etc. tonight. | 03:43 |
| DarkwingDuck | MarkDude: already rooted and some of that GingerBread goodness | 03:43 |
| * MarkDude suggest some sort of videos be made | 03:43 | |
| MarkDude | at least a bit of Ubucon | 03:43 |
| jdeslip | Can probably do that with various android phones | 03:43 |
| iheartubuntu | is keeping the sleeve file an SVG format important? | 03:43 |
| MarkDude | many folks still dont know what the heck it is :) | 03:43 |
| erichammond1 | My Internet access through my 4G phone is an 8 device wifi hotspot, but I don't know how much I'll be around the booth. | 03:43 |
| rww | iheartubuntu: yes | 03:43 |
| DarkwingDuck | Does anyone have a video camera? | 03:43 |
| jdeslip | iheartubunut: svg would be best since it is scalable | 03:43 |
| MarkDude | Anyone going to be there for Ubucon with a tether phone? | 03:44 |
| jdeslip | I will (if needed) | 03:44 |
| DarkwingDuck | As will I | 03:45 |
| iheartubuntu | ok | 03:45 |
| jdeslip | More discussions on details of SCALE setup etc. will happen on the mailing list, channel in the days leading up to the conference. I think we will plan some sort of meeting on the Friday during/after ubucon | 03:45 |
| DarkwingDuck | +1 for after Ubucon | 03:46 |
| erichammond1 | Is there a meeting next Sunday? | 03:46 |
| jdeslip | erichammond1: you mean in two weeks? | 03:46 |
| MarkDude | Alright- lets plan on streaming some of Ubucon- | 03:46 |
| jdeslip | I am not yet sure - given that a larger fraction of the team will be at scale | 03:46 |
| erichammond1 | jdeslip: oh, nevermind. SCALE is sneaking up fast. | 03:46 |
| rww | It got moved to an in-person one on Saturday last year, which I thought was helpful. | 03:46 |
| * MarkDude can create an acct for Ustream- or the Team can use mine | 03:47 | |
| jdeslip | rww: sounds like a good idea | 03:47 |
| MarkDude | rww, if everyone had known about it sure :) | 03:47 |
| jdeslip | How about a meeting on the Friday after Ubucon - which can serve as a meet and greet and a planning meeting for the next two days? | 03:48 |
| rww | MarkDude: Given all the places that meeting times are posted... | 03:48 |
| MarkDude | Ustream also allows for remote participation | 03:49 |
| MarkDude | folks can ask questions | 03:49 |
| jdeslip | Let's not worry too much about what happened last time, ok ;) I'll send an email to the list proposing a meeting Friday night and trying to get peoples schedules aligned | 03:49 |
| rww | jdeslip: Saturday was useful as a "We've done one day of booth. What changes do we need to make for day two?". I'm not gonna be there, though, so my preferences don't count ;) | 03:49 |
| * MarkDude is making sure we get the details set as to when to meet- they shifted last time | 03:50 | |
| MarkDude | No worries, water under the bridge | 03:50 |
| jdeslip | rww: not a bad point. I'll send the email to the list and see what people want. Friday or Saturday. | 03:50 |
| rww | (and as far as I know, ustream only works if you use Flash, so I won't be remote attending) | 03:50 |
| Eureka | wiki: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/Scale9x edited | 03:50 |
| jdeslip | OK... So lets wrap this up for real. Thanks for coming everyone! | 03:50 |
| jdeslip | The next official IRC meeting will therefore be in 4 weeks, and we will have an in-person meeting either Friday or Saturday at SCALE | 03:51 |
| jdeslip | ---------------------- End of Official Meeting ---------------- | 03:52 |
| * rww cuts along dotted line | 03:52 | |
| * MarkDude will create West Coast Ubuntu for streaming- considering it can be used at OSCON | 03:52 | |
| MarkDude | unless there is objection- I am willing to help- I just have time for ML | 03:53 |
| grantbow | MarkDude: please not West Coast Ubuntu | 03:53 |
| grantbow | we have enough names as it is | 03:53 |
| MarkDude | and have also streamed at events before | 03:53 |
| grantbow | I recommend ubuntu-us-ca but there are other ideas I am sure | 03:54 |
| jdeslip | MarkDude: I'd talk to nhaines first, make sure he is OK (and thinks speakers) are OK with streaming video. | 03:54 |
| MarkDude | California Ubuntu Team? | 03:54 |
| jdeslip | at ubucon that is | 03:54 |
| jdeslip | Since, he is the lead for that event, I think this should be passed by him | 03:54 |
| MarkDude | jdeslip, I am willing to bet at least 1 speaker will be- I plan on that | 03:55 |
| MarkDude | anything more will be bonus | 03:55 |
| MarkDude | Or not. Just trying to help here | 03:56 |
| jdeslip | I think it is not a good idea: just make sure the organizers/speakers for ubucon are on board ;0 | 03:56 |
| DarkwingDuck | I good. | 03:57 |
| MarkDude | k | 03:57 |
| DarkwingDuck | I mean... my documentation talk at campDKE last year is on youtube lol | 03:57 |
| DarkwingDuck | *CampKDE | 03:57 |
| grantbow | MarkDude: California Ubuntu Team is another variant but is better than West Coast Ubuntu. Did you see the discussion during the meeting a month ago? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/11January16 | 03:57 |
| rww | DarkwingDuck: in WebM format, I hope ;P? | 03:58 |
| MarkDude | DarkwingDuck, and if I was from Europe I would hella view it :D | 03:58 |
| jdeslip | I meant to say I think it "IS" a good idea. | 03:58 |
| DarkwingDuck | rww: :P | 03:58 |
| DarkwingDuck | MarkDude: KDE rocks in the US Brother | 03:58 |
| jdeslip | As long as nhaines and speakers are on board | 03:58 |
| MarkDude | grantbow, chill, not really going to use the name | 03:58 |
| rww | Calibuntu Forniloco | 03:58 |
| MarkDude | just as DarkwingDuck knows that KDE is just fine :) | 03:58 |
| DarkwingDuck | hehehe | 03:59 |
| MarkDude | rww +1 | 03:59 |
| DarkwingDuck | rww: +2 | 03:59 |
| grantbow | rww: Sameer has recorded Ustream from his Android phone and I don't think he has flash on it. | 03:59 |
| MarkDude | And a nice color blue I might add | 03:59 |
| jdeslip | Why not just live stream under the Ubucon or SCALE event name | 03:59 |
| DarkwingDuck | I would say Ubucon name | 03:59 |
| nhaines | I have hired a videographer for Ubucon and am preliminarily planning to stream live via Ustream, please do not make aditional plans for recording at Ubucon. | 03:59 |
| akk | Sometimes sites server flash to desktop browsers and other formats to phones, I gather. | 03:59 |
| rww | grantbow: There are apps for iPhone and Android, yeah. I don't think there's a normal computer interface that doesn't use Flash. Or rather, I couldn't find one when I tried. | 03:59 |
| nhaines | (Personal recording is fine by me as long as it doesn't disrupt.) | 03:59 |
| grantbow | rww: kk | 04:00 |
| MarkDude | nhaines, is correct | 04:00 |
| jdeslip | nhaines: thanks for the info | 04:00 |
| grantbow | nhaines: nice! who have you hired? | 04:00 |
| DarkwingDuck | nhaines: Did you recieve my email? | 04:00 |
| MarkDude | That was the #1 thing for streaming- was not letting the tech get in the way | 04:00 |
| akk | Video is still dicey that way, so many incompatible formats and platforms. | 04:01 |
| nhaines | grantbow: David Ellsworth, who did the camerawork for SCaLE8X too. | 04:01 |
| nhaines | DarkwingDuck: yes I did! | 04:01 |
| DarkwingDuck | nhaines: awesome! | 04:01 |
| MarkDude | It was used for questions/statements just a bit- but that was helpful | 04:01 |
| grantbow | akk: yes, we had some problems streaming at the OLPC SF summit a few months back with some laptops we hadn't tested before the event. Last minute scramble finally got something running but it wasn't ideal. | 04:02 |
| jdeslip | Ok, so I think that resolves the video issue: nhaines has it covered | 04:02 |
| DarkwingDuck | Whoot! | 04:02 |
| grantbow | jdeslip: yes | 04:02 |
| DarkwingDuck | Flannel: ping | 04:02 |
| grantbow | nhaines: thanks for handling this :-) | 04:02 |
| jdeslip | OK, I am off for the evening. Thanks for all your scale9x commitments everyone! I am really looking forward to meeting everyone! | 04:03 |
| nhaines | grantbow: the video setup for Ubucon last year was major fail so I'm bringing in someone this year. It should be a lot smoother. | 04:04 |
| iheartubuntu | same here jdeslip | 04:04 |
| MarkDude | later jdeslip | 04:04 |
| MarkDude | akk http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/12036933 | 04:04 |
| DarkwingDuck | nhaines: it wasn't a major fail... it failed but, I don't think that was your fault. | 04:04 |
| MarkDude | the suond is bad due to the mic | 04:04 |
| iheartubuntu | me/ thinks markdude looks like a professional baseball player | 04:05 |
| nhaines | DarkwingDuck: the Flip couldn't offload the video fast enough and we didn't really have access to the laptop between sessions anyway, so it was poor planning. | 04:05 |
| MarkDude | lol | 04:05 |
| iheartubuntu | possibly a pitcher in an imagined W.P. Kinsella short story | 04:05 |
| DarkwingDuck | nhaines: Yeah... I think my netbook dying was just as bad LOL | 04:06 |
| akk | It's true, in that hat he does look like a baseball player. | 04:06 |
| MarkDude | Well ty. I would rather be told I look like a baseball player than say a football or rugby player | 04:07 |
| DarkwingDuck | MarkDude: you look like you should play bowling :P:P | 04:08 |
| * MarkDude has NO stache now | 04:08 | |
| DarkwingDuck | No? | 04:08 |
| DarkwingDuck | I have one and a goatee now | 04:09 |
| iheartubuntu | or an Oregen lumberjack. | 04:09 |
| DarkwingDuck | hehehe | 04:09 |
| iheartubuntu | actually... even without the suit MarkDude looks more and more like a penguin | 04:09 |
| iheartubuntu | :p | 04:09 |
| grantbow | lol | 04:10 |
| MarkDude | iheartubuntu, the full transformation will take a while tho | 04:10 |
| * iheartubuntu will examine his feet/flippers at scale | 04:10 | |
| DarkwingDuck | MarkDude: are you bringing the penguin suit? | 04:10 |
| MarkDude | Well a replacement | 04:11 |
| DarkwingDuck | :) | 04:11 |
| MarkDude | the original is in Venezuela | 04:11 |
| grantbow | nice | 04:11 |
| DarkwingDuck | ahhhh sweet | 04:11 |
| MarkDude | Slightly battle damaged, but still has life in it | 04:11 |
| MarkDude | the replacemnt is still in AZ | 04:11 |
| DarkwingDuck | hehehe | 04:11 |
| MarkDude | long story | 04:12 |
| MarkDude | Robyn will be bringing it with her | 04:12 |
| * MarkDude misses having a suit at present | 04:12 | |
| MarkDude | http://www.flickr.com/photos/tatadbb/5425001844/ | 04:13 |
| MarkDude | There is the suit at a Debian party in Caracas | 04:13 |
| DarkwingDuck | :D | 04:14 |
| * MarkDude has been given assignments to take some pics with the suit doing various things | 04:15 | |
| MarkDude | Cleanshaven I have more of a youth pastor look I think | 04:19 |
| grantbow | akk: tuxmeteor is quite cool, thanks. | 04:29 |
| * rww ponders laptop + CRT | 04:30 | |
| iheartubuntu | sorry its taking me so long on this SVG - i havent used inkscape for a few months :) | 04:33 |
| * MarkDude wonders why no one has ever said that I look like a scientist/professor | 04:33 | |
| MarkDude | lol | 04:34 |
| rww | because you don't ;P? | 04:34 |
| MarkDude | <delayed reaction> | 04:34 |
| MarkDude | rww I know | 04:34 |
| grantbow | iheartubuntu - might be easier to edit the markup by hand but I haven't tried it | 04:34 |
| iheartubuntu | almost done | 04:34 |
| MarkDude | anyone editing the wiki at this point- the Scale page? | 04:35 |
| grantbow | going home, have fun all | 04:35 |
| rww | It's generated, not hand-written in the first place, so I imagine it's probably a mess internally. | 04:35 |
| MarkDude | Later Dangerous G | 04:35 |
| iheartubuntu | can i post files to the mailing list? | 04:41 |
| rww | iheartubuntu: How big? | 04:41 |
| iheartubuntu | 1.3mb | 04:41 |
| rww | iheartubuntu: I wouldn't recommend it. | 04:42 |
| rww | Some options: 1) learn bzr and upload it to the LP repo, 2) put it on the wiki, 3) put it on Ubuntu One / some hosting site | 04:43 |
| rww | if you don't know bzr already, the SCaLE page of the wiki might be a good bet. | 04:43 |
| iheartubuntu | ok i can put it on the wiki or somethin | 04:43 |
| pleia2 | or email it to someone who can put it into bzr for you :) | 04:43 |
| iheartubuntu | whats bzr | 04:43 |
| rww | iheartubuntu: the version control software that the CD sleeve files are in | 04:44 |
| pleia2 | bazaar, revision control that launchpad uses | 04:44 |
| * pleia2 back to guests | 04:49 | |
| DarkwingDuck | BAH! | 04:49 |
| DarkwingDuck | let 'em fend | 04:49 |
| DarkwingDuck | :P:P | 04:49 |
| seidos | ah, right on time | 04:59 |
| rww | hah | 05:00 |
| MarkDude | Awesome >> Internal Server Error | 05:05 |
| rww | MarkDude: on the wiki? that's why I edit in kate and copypaste over. | 05:06 |
| rww | not the most reliable server | 05:06 |
| MarkDude | Yes, copypasta is your friend | 05:09 |
| MarkDude | gedit works if you know what you are doing- or in my case keep it simple :) | 05:10 |
| * MarkDude bows to ple ia2 and her inflatable penguin | 05:11 | |
| iheartubuntu | Is there any plan to alter the Ubuntu California Team logo to a more updated design in connection with the new Ubuntu font & logos? | 05:28 |
| nhaines | iheartubuntu: not at present. | 05:28 |
| iheartubuntu | im not sure there is a need. I like what we have with the state of California in the logo | 05:28 |
| nhaines | pleia2: did Canonical provide new-branding Ubuntu nametags? | 05:29 |
| iheartubuntu | when I have some free time i might do a few mockups and see what everyone thinks | 05:29 |
| MarkDude | orange :P | 05:33 |
| MarkDude | The Ca logo rocks | 05:33 |
| MarkDude | It was even appreciated at FUDcon | 05:34 |
| MarkDude | rww too bad you are not on FB anymore http://www.fbanners.com/banners/932/i+like+turtles.html | 05:56 |
| rww | I deleted my cat's facebook profile today. | 05:57 |
| iheartubuntu | are we pushing kubuntu as well? will we have any kubuntu setups? | 05:57 |
| rww | also, this website confuses me. what is a banner | 05:57 |
| rww | iheartubuntu: DarkwingDuck will be there, so hopefully | 05:57 |
| rww | viva la KDE | 05:57 |
| DarkwingDuck | iheartubuntu: Yes | 06:13 |
| DarkwingDuck | I have Kubuntu on my laptop and I am pushing Kubuntu | 06:14 |
| iheartubuntu | turtles taste great | 06:14 |
| DarkwingDuck | :) That they do | 06:15 |
| Eureka | wiki: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/Scale9x edited | 06:16 |
| nhaines | iheartubuntu: you might want to check the Ubuntu branding guidelines from Canonical. | 06:46 |
| iheartubuntu | ?? | 06:47 |
| iheartubuntu | for the logo ideas? | 06:47 |
| nhaines | Branding guideline violations aside, the biggest things that jump out at me from the CD sleeves is that the Ubuntu logo is *way* too big and I'd rather see 32-bit/64-bit instead of i386/AMD64 | 06:47 |
| nhaines | No, for the CD sleeves. | 06:47 |
| rww | It amuses me that Debian and Ubuntu call their 32-bit x86 architecture i386, and neither support i386 processors ;) | 06:48 |
| iheartubuntu | I can change it, I just used what was there | 06:49 |
| iheartubuntu | if the new logo was too big, then wasnt the old one too big? would you happen to have a link to the guidelines? | 06:50 |
| * iheartubuntu wonders if Canonical should provide basic artwork like cd sleeves so the brand image doesnt deviate | 06:51 | |
| nhaines | http://design.canonical.com/the-toolkit/brand-communication-guide/ | 06:52 |
| nhaines | http://design.canonical.com/the-toolkit/ubuntu-brand-guidelines/ | 06:52 |
| iheartubuntu | i think the ubuntu name & logo would look out of proportion with the rest of the cover it was much smaller | 06:52 |
| iheartubuntu | ty | 06:52 |
| nhaines | Anyway, I just think the logo's too big and looks cramped. | 06:55 |
| iheartubuntu | it would be helpful if those guidelines had links to all the SVGs of the examples in the PDFs | 06:57 |
| iheartubuntu | i will try to update it based on the spacing around the name/logo and see how it turns out. | 06:58 |
| iheartubuntu | any searches i do pulls up OLD svgs | 06:59 |
| iheartubuntu | surprising whomever made the PDFs at canonicals pages didnt embed links to the various files they talk about | 07:01 |
| nhaines | iheartubuntu: they're all available from the ubuntu-brand-guidelines page. | 07:02 |
| iheartubuntu | logo assets? | 07:03 |
| iheartubuntu | yup thats it. thanks nhaines ! | 07:04 |
| nhaines | No prob. | 07:06 |
| iheartubuntu | approved to switch to 32 bit and 64 bit? | 07:09 |
| iheartubuntu | i like that much better than 386/amd64 | 07:10 |
| rww | It's technically ambiguous, but sounds like a good idea to me. | 07:11 |
| iheartubuntu | ive updated the files on my server. here is a PNG version of what it looks like now... http://iheartubuntu.com/ubuntu-us-ca/sleeve-02-13-2011.png | 07:31 |
| iheartubuntu | you may not like it. its not entirely different but i did follow the guidelines on the amount of spacing surrounding the logo | 07:31 |
| iheartubuntu | it is slightly smaller and doesnt hug the edges anymore | 07:32 |
| iheartubuntu | nhaines - possibly when i have time the whole cd sleeve should be reworked so it looks more professional. With pictograms and all. | 07:40 |
| MarkDude | http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=101883396557677 | 15:42 |
| MarkDude | Protect the wifi from pirates and raiders - next Sat at Saxbys, all are invited | 15:43 |
| MarkDude | Help us set up a classroom for teaching Linux, FOSS and other good stuff | 15:43 |
| === MarkDud is now known as MarkDude | ||
| jamiedmattingly | MarkDude, ill be there looks like fun | 16:45 |
| MarkDude | Cool deal jamiedmattingly | 16:45 |
| MarkDude | Bring a laptop or 2 for testing it | 16:46 |
| jamiedmattingly | i have my netbook is that ok? | 16:46 |
| MarkDude | Yes | 16:46 |
| MarkDude | We want to test the wired also | 16:46 |
| MarkDude | this is phase 1 | 16:46 |
| MarkDude | phase 2 (if needed) they will buy a router we can put Linux on | 16:47 |
| jamiedmattingly | i have an old laptop with lubuntu that is just wired | 16:47 |
| MarkDude | so we can control the bandwidth for meetings and stuff | 16:47 |
| * MarkDude has a few P2s he plans on testing- yay Puppy Linux | 16:47 | |
| MarkDude | You driving or taking BART? | 16:48 |
| * MarkDude should put public transport option on the page | 16:48 | |
| jamiedmattingly | ill be driving coming from vallejo there is no real pub trans to walnut creek that i know of | 16:50 |
| iheartubuntu | nhaines - Ive attempted to reduce the ubuntu font & circle of friends on the cover of the CD sleeve. I think it looks more professional. Let me know what you think. ty. http://iheartubuntu.com/ubuntu-us-ca/sleeve-alt-version2.png | 16:53 |
| iheartubuntu | if you like this version best, i can update the wiki | 16:54 |
| MarkDude | jamiedmattingly, nothing reasonable | 16:58 |
| MarkDude | like 3 buses to BART or Sumthin | 16:58 |
| MarkDude | you can park in back of Saxbys for FREE | 16:58 |
| jamiedmattingly | that was the plan | 16:59 |
| * MarkDude was thinking that if we have extra time - we can try a few networked games | 17:00 | |
| jamiedmattingly | that sounds fun | 17:00 |
| MarkDude | We can also bring desktops if anyone feels bold | 17:00 |
| MarkDude | they have 2 bigscreens there- that make great monitors | 17:00 |
| MarkDude | GK has setup full machines there for release parties | 17:01 |
| MarkDude | akk, should I bring your plant to Socal?It may be some distance, but, I am not sure when would work otherwise | 17:02 |
| MarkDude | the ground cherry and a hummingbird plant | 17:03 |
| akk | MarkDude: Ha -- funny idea, but it would actually work! I could bring it home from there. | 17:03 |
| MarkDude | Cool | 17:03 |
| * MarkDude is also bringing a small starter as well as some seeds I just started | 17:03 | |
| * MarkDude has always wanted to start seeds in February- this is hte 1st time I have done so | 17:04 | |
| * akk just planted an apple tree over the weekend, keeps looking every few hours to see if there are any new buds :) | 17:04 | |
| akk | I always start things a little too late. Over the winter I forget about planting. | 17:04 |
| * MarkDude planted the seeds yesterday- already checked on them 20 ties | 17:05 | |
| MarkDude | times | 17:05 |
| MarkDude | my chocolate mint survivedthe winter | 17:05 |
| iheartubuntu | on burned CDs, do we just mark them on the disc as well, or do you guys go all out with cd labels | 17:05 |
| MarkDude | iheartubuntu, normally use a sharpie to write on them also | 17:06 |
| iheartubuntu | ok cool | 17:06 |
| * MarkDude has someone else with *good* handwriting do so | 17:06 | |
| iheartubuntu | do we print these cd sleeves on regular white paper? or some cardstock? | 17:06 |
| MarkDude | Regular white paper | 17:07 |
| MarkDude | laser printers do the best job of it | 17:07 |
| pleia2 | DarkwingDuck: 21:29:18 < nhaines> pleia2: did Canonical provide new-branding Ubuntu nametags? | 17:11 |
| pleia2 | (the pack was sent to him, not me, I have to fly down and already have too much to pack :)) | 17:11 |
| * MarkDude is making Fedbuntoo badges :D | 17:11 | |
| iheartubuntu | wish i had color laser :) | 17:12 |
| iheartubuntu | wow, i found a site that prints color laser... 1000 cd sleeves would cost $70. | 17:13 |
| iheartubuntu | so liz will be carrying the penguin on board a plane? :) | 17:20 |
| iheartubuntu | pleia2 - are you interested in me updating the "with team information" fliers with the new ubuntu font/artwork? | 17:21 |
| pleia2 | uninflated ;) | 17:21 |
| * MarkDude is looking forwardto pic with big-ass penguin | 17:21 | |
| pleia2 | iheartubuntu: our logo is on a lot of things, including all our printed t-shirts, we need to talk about this as a team if we want to update the logo | 17:21 |
| pleia2 | I thought we had decided not too | 17:21 |
| pleia2 | s/too/to | 17:21 |
| * MarkDude votes for keeping the awesome logo that rocks | 17:22 | |
| MarkDude | they can pry it from my cold dead hands..... | 17:22 |
| pleia2 | yeah, me too | 17:22 |
| jamiedmattingly | isnt the ubuntu logo itself changing with the new release? | 17:23 |
| MarkDude | It has an international appeal to it- everyone *knows* it is Cali | 17:23 |
| pleia2 | jamiedmattingly: yeah, it changed last year | 17:23 |
| iheartubuntu | i havent changed the logo on the links i provided on the scale page. | 17:23 |
| iheartubuntu | http://iheartubuntu.com/ubuntu-us-ca/ | 17:23 |
| pleia2 | iheartubuntu: there is no harm in offering your suggestions, I'm just saying that it's not up to me :) | 17:23 |
| MarkDude | We still are not FORCEd to change the logo | 17:23 |
| iheartubuntu | my logo and picto files are just ideas. | 17:23 |
| jamiedmattingly | its what was on grantbows shirt right?? | 17:23 |
| iheartubuntu | the "sleeve-02-13-2011" version is the links i provided on the scale page. the alt versions are just that, alt versions. | 17:24 |
| pleia2 | jamiedmattingly: it's the very basic circle of friends: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Brand?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=blackeubuntulogo.png | 17:25 |
| pleia2 | grantbow's shirt was just a Ubuntu Developer Summit picture for Natty | 17:25 |
| MarkDude | https://picasaweb.google.com/tuxwingsgroup/FUDcon#5568817889103927714 | 17:25 |
| MarkDude | The shirt is to the right on the pic | 17:26 |
| jamiedmattingly | ok thanks i was confused i guess. i am a blonde after all :) | 17:27 |
| * MarkDude thinks the new logo is contrary to one of the things that 1st interested me in Ubuntu | 17:27 | |
| MarkDude | my circle of friends is varied | 17:27 |
| MarkDude | the idea of all the circles - all overthe world - being the same? :P | 17:28 |
| iheartubuntu | my ubuntu calif circle is more of a pictogram than anything. | 17:28 |
| * iheartubuntu is blonde too. maybe that explains things | 17:29 | |
| pleia2 | MarkDude: how can all circles be the same? humanity is very diverse :) | 17:29 |
| jamiedmattingly | especially here in cali | 17:31 |
| iheartubuntu | do we have an SVG of the ubuntu california logo? the "info-sheet-california.svg" is missing some graphic, i assume is the ubuntu california logo | 17:33 |
| pleia2 | the svg is on the logo page | 17:33 |
| pleia2 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/Logo | 17:33 |
| iheartubuntu | great, thanks | 17:35 |
| iheartubuntu | so many important ubuntu web links i have floating around now :) | 17:35 |
| DarkwingDuck | pleia2: Not name tags no. I have lanyards and CD holders. | 19:50 |
| pleia2 | ^^ nhaines | 19:55 |
| nhaines | DarkwingDuck, pleia2: thanks. I remember Canonical saying they were going to send out printable templates for nametags. I was hoping to co-opt them for Ubucon. :) | 20:27 |
| nhaines | I'm going to try hard to get an Android scheduling app out for Ubucon. Maybe for SCaLE too while I'm at it. | 20:28 |
| akk | That would be cool! If it saves the schedule so it works offline, I'd use it. | 20:29 |
| DarkwingDuck | nhaines: I came up with a draft idea for one but when my old laptop died it died with it... | 20:35 |
| DarkwingDuck | More or less it was a calander reader | 20:36 |
| DarkwingDuck | You build a public calander with google and downloaded it via the app. THen you could star what you wanted to be a part of and it was give an alarm before it started. | 20:37 |
| Eureka | wiki: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/UbuntuHours edited | 21:05 |
| nhaines | DarkwingDuck: this is specifically for OpenConference, but I fail at git so I can't seem to grab the files. | 22:00 |
| DarkwingDuck | nhaines: git clone gitaddress | 23:36 |
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