[02:32] Good evening all [02:32] good evening [02:32] evenin' [02:34] looks like just Scale9x planning on the agenda https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/11February13 [02:37] Yep [02:45] Seems to me we should add Scale to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ConferenceAppearances pretty soon. [02:54] per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ConferenceTopTips do people have tally counters such as http://images.google.com/images?q=tally+counter ? [02:55] I don't, wonders if there is an android "app for that" [02:56] good idea, I'll look. [02:56] They are less than $10 on Amazon or eBay and won't crash :-) [02:57] if not we can make one ;-) [02:57] quite a few in the market [02:58] I have a linux program to do that, if you want to dedicate a laptop to it. :) [02:58] (written for counting meteors) [02:58] * grantbow surfs the developer websites [02:58] akk: cool [02:58] Almost time for meeting [02:59] http://shallowsky.com/software/tuxmeteor.html [03:00] (just posting 'cause I want to show off the silly logo) [03:00] the trouble we had in the past using them was gathering the data [03:00] Getting people to remember to click them? [03:00] akk: gnuplot, nice [03:01] These days I'd use other solutions -- cairoplot makes really pretty plots. [03:01] Ok, everyone here for the meeting raise your hand [03:01] o/ [03:01] \o [03:01] o/ [03:02] Ok, hopefully some people trickle in during the hour. [03:02] The 0th topic is (as always) announcements. Anyone have anything to announce? [03:02] hand raised! [03:03] * eps tries to figure out which left is my left [03:03] wiki: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects edited | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/Scale9x edited [03:04] David Wonderly mentioned that the week for Feb 28 is Ubuntu developer week [03:04] If you want to attend, please check out the mailing list [03:04] and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek [03:05] Good evening everyone. [03:05] Any other announcements? [03:06] If not, we will move on to our only agenda item for tonight. SCALE9X planning. [03:06] SCALE is less than 2 weeks from tonight [03:06] We will have booth at the expo on Saturday and Sunday the 26th and 27th [03:07] And on friday their will be an Ubucon. [03:07] If nhaines is around, perhaps he can briefly discuss the ubucon and what (if anything) is needed. [03:07] (Thanks A LOT nhaines for making this happen and taking the lead) [03:10] OK, if nhaines pops in later, we can disucss the ubucon, if not - I'm assuming enough speakers got back to him and we can disucss any necessary planning on the list. [03:10] Moving on to our booth... [03:10] The main thing we want to confirm tonight is the demo boxes [03:11] MarkDude: Can you confirm the demo boxes you are bringing and whether they will be at the ubuntu table [03:11] I know you are contributing to other tables as well [03:12] Sry yes [03:12] Also for those following along the scale planning is found on the wiki here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/Scale9x [03:12] Please add your name if you are coming and bringing anything [03:12] * MarkDude has 2 machines- the other has iied and most likely needs pats [03:12] o/ [03:13] Can you describe the two machines? And will they be at the Ubuntu table the entire expo? [03:13] or are they on a timeshare ;) [03:13] both of the machines are there full time [03:14] OK, can you add them to the wiki page with a description [03:14] The Dell and the the compaq on the page already [03:14] I may need to scratch the Strata [03:15] are CD sleeves still needed? I can update the old artwork to be for 10.10 discs (or whatever is needed) [03:15] Ah, I see, guess they are not in the table [03:15] iheartubuntu - yes, we still need the sleeve design to be updated. [03:15] * MarkDude will move them to correct place- as pleia2 reminded me to- and I forgot :P [03:15] iheartubuntu: that would be greatly appreciated [03:15] ok - i will do it. [03:16] are these printed in b/w or color? [03:16] basically we just want the sleeves to include checkboxes for the next several releases (instead of last several releases) [03:16] iheartubuntu: both [03:16] I am going to try to pring about 100 in color [03:16] but often they are printed in black and white for cost [03:17] on what sort of paper? [03:17] 8-1/2-11 [03:17] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/CDSleeves [03:17] You can just modify the design [03:17] it's in bzr [03:18] got it thx [03:18] Once you modify it, please send an email to list; so, I can get them printed. :) [03:19] will do. i will get this done sometime tonite [03:19] wiki: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/Scale9x edited [03:19] erichammond1: are you still on track for burning 200 discs? [03:19] * erichammond1 wakes up [03:20] on the wiki page it says you are down for 200 discs - it is in the blank category, but I seem to remember you saying it would be 200 burned discs [03:20] um, my name is in the "blank cds" row [03:20] jdeslip: wishful thinking. [03:20] hehe [03:21] haha [03:21] 6 minutes or so each x200 is quite a bit [03:21] true [03:21] what version #'s do we want on the sleeve? right now its 8.04, 9.04, 9.10, and 10.04 [03:21] I did spend a little time looking around for a CD printing company that would print the CDs for free with a little advertising space on them. [03:21] So, can anyone volunteer some burned cds? [03:22] Didn't make much progress, but it seems that there might be somebody out there for future events. [03:22] iheartubuntu: I think 10.04 10.10 11.04 11.10 [03:22] are we burning them on CD or DVD? [03:22] iheartubuntu: CD [03:22] CD [03:22] i ask because i have better luck with burning to DVD :) [03:22] erichammond1: Canonical will gladly ship CDs at minimal cost for a modest donation, especially for versions they have extra of like 10.04 right now. [03:23] I've looked into getting CDs made too and the costs are quite high in relatively low volumes [03:23] grantbow: We also have a conference pack that includes pressed cds [03:23] jdeslip: I hadn't forgotten :-) [03:24] shipit will work with us to act as a CD replicator at cost [03:24] their cost is much lower than anything I could find [03:24] I can check my notes [03:24] OK, well, it seems like we will have a lot of blank cds on hand and I believe a burning box - DarkwingDucks [03:25] grantbow: I'd love to hear what "cost" is. [03:25] would anyone just have a multiple cd burner they can lend for the weekend? [03:25] I can commit to 50 CDs. let me know what speed you want them burned to and any other info like what ISOs [03:25] erichammond1: np [03:25] I did say I could print some color sleeves (100+?) if the design is updated and somebody contacts me about it more than a day in advance. [03:26] i can do cds as well. just need the number, version and speed [03:26] marking CDs, printing sleeves, folding sleeves, stuffing, all of these are factors we take for "granted" in low volumes. [03:26] erichammond1 - i will post the CD sleeve file to the mailing list sometime tonite [03:26] iheartubuntu: thanks! can you add your name to the wiki page? [03:27] philipballew: the number is however much you can commit to 50? Mostly i386 desktop edition. [03:27] Does speed actually matter? I mean, as long as your burner can handle it? [03:27] jdeslip: Higher speeds means more chance of failures. On modern equipment, I usually go with 8x. [03:27] i can do 50. i assume this is 10.10? not to show up looking like an idiot with the wrong version [03:27] are we in need of any computers? i have an acer aspireone netbook with ubuntu 10.10 on it (desktop, unity, 2D). i can have it avail when im around. [03:27] I do x16 speed for higher reliability - I found speed does matter. [03:28] i have a dell studeo 10.10 ready for use if need be [03:28] not slower than 16x ? [03:28] rww: your script rocks [03:28] Yes, please do 10.10 [03:28] exelent [03:28] so 50 of 10.10? [03:28] Hey guys, sry I'm late [03:28] OK, if the expert say speed matters, do 16x and lower [03:28] grantbow: come to think of it, I don't remember if I merged in those changes you sent me... will go check now. [03:29] iheartubuntu: that would be awesome. please add your name to the wiki if you can do it. :) [03:29] http://rww.name/scripts/cdwrite.sh [03:29] yes. i will do 50 of 10.10 32 bit [03:29] great [03:29] rww: I think it was minor, like using the configured device on all commands as I recall. [03:30] Does anyone have anything else to add about SCALE planning? [03:30] short meetings are not bad - work can still get done at other times :-) [03:31] is there a section in the wiki for burned cds or should i add one? [03:31] philipballew: on here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/Scale9x [03:31] thanks [03:31] there is a table and row for "pre-Burned cds" [03:32] OK, I think we have pretty much everything covered (I will add myself as bringing the banner). [03:33] It would be smart for somebody to bring a backup network switch in the event EricHammond doesn't come through or his switch fails. [03:33] Does anyone have anything else to add before we end the official meeting? [03:33] erichammond1: ya, I heard that guy is unreliable ;) [03:33] ;-/ [03:33] I'm a fan of redundancy [03:33] If anyone else can bring a switch, please add your name to the wiki [03:34] erichammond1: good idea [03:34] (thinks I have spare linksys router I can bring) [03:34] jdeslip: the one that looks best on Android from a quick inspection as a tally counter is from Nuvera Apps named T-Counter [03:34] grantbow: looking at the diff, it 1) makes a couple of changes to eject calls that I think were because my burner needs some ejects that yours didn't, 2) switches the speed from 8x to 16x, and 3) disables MD5SUM checking (that I don't think we got working fully anyway?). I'll leave it for now and see if I can improve the MD5SUM stuff instead of commenting it out and cut down on the eject usage. [03:35] im too slow to update the wiki. i'll do my updating after the meeting (sorry) [03:35] I'll add optional arguments for speed etc. too [03:35] iheartubuntu: no worries [03:36] erichammond1: you bringing some cat5 cable too? [03:36] I have a single CD/DVD burner on my laptop. I will have all of the ISOs you can think of. [03:36] MarkDude: will you be providing your own cat5 cable for demo boxes? [03:36] will there be wi-fi available? [03:36] Sure what osrt of assortment should I bring? [03:36] rww: I think I explained in my email that I didn't expect all of that to get merged - some of the need for the ejects depends on the type of burner you use (manual or automatic tray, etc). [03:37] iheartubuntu: there is but... bandwidth is really bad [03:37] GK has all sorts of cables and wires and such [03:37] ok [03:37] MarkDude: Maybe a few 5" cables? [03:37] grantbow: ah, I didn't look at the email body. indeed you did. [03:37] err 5' [03:37] jdeslip: I don't have spare cables right now. I could buy some cheap online if needed. [03:37] wisdom of sages (akk) NEVER trust wifi at conferences [03:37] grantbow: I think the problems with getting console beeps were actually caused by a headachy bug in compiz. I'll ping my compiz contact and see if that's still an issue. [03:38] DarkwingDuck: This is a new location with multiple times more bandwidth. We don't know how good/bad it will be. [03:38] * MarkDude can bring 20 or so of that size [03:38] 64 bit versions of 10.10 needed/wanted? [03:38] rww: the only important thing was to get all the ejects and calls using the same /dev/ device variable so they all change at once. I tripped on that later and it might not be in the diff [03:38] erichammond1: Aye, but if everyone is using the same connection... [03:38] a tethered phone would be great for scheduled times [03:38] MarkDude: probably 5 or so cables would be good. [03:38] I have a tethered phone to bring [03:38] MarkDude: can you add the cable to the wiki? [03:39] Ok, lets see if any thing else [03:39] OK... so, anyone have any other questions about scale? [03:39] grantbow: It's not. I'll add an otpional argument for device and default it to /dev/sd0 [03:39] sr0 ** [03:39] (and use it in the eject calls) [03:39] oh, lets try to Ustream or Justin TV some stuff for Scale [03:40] Does our booth have limits on network usage (number of computers, wifi broadcasting, ...)? [03:40] Has anyone emailed nhaines to requesting a talking topic for Ubucon? [03:40] rww: There's a kernel issue with console beeps too. [03:40] DarkwingDuck: I did and pleia2 did I think [03:40] tethered phone and ok cheap mic work well even on crappy bandwidth [03:40] As did I [03:40] erichammond1: I am not sure they released that type of info [03:40] erichammond1: If it's the same as last year, number of computers isn't an issue, but wifi wasn't allowed I think. [03:40] sound remains good - picture degrades [03:41] rww: correct. We were not allowed Wifi [03:41] other then provided wifi [03:41] so my little switch only has 4 hardware ports which limits it to 4 computers with Internet access. [03:41] Tethered worked well withNO wifi at Scale [03:42] * MarkDude is just telling all of you to root your phone so tethering can happen [03:42] :D [03:42] akk: ah. I'll just comment the line out, then. [03:42] MarkDude: I can provide tethering if onsite internet fails [03:43] Ok. Let's wrap this up. Please add your name to the wiki if you made a commitment to discs etc. tonight. [03:43] MarkDude: already rooted and some of that GingerBread goodness [03:43] * MarkDude suggest some sort of videos be made [03:43] at least a bit of Ubucon [03:43] Can probably do that with various android phones [03:43] is keeping the sleeve file an SVG format important? [03:43] many folks still dont know what the heck it is :) [03:43] My Internet access through my 4G phone is an 8 device wifi hotspot, but I don't know how much I'll be around the booth. [03:43] iheartubuntu: yes [03:43] Does anyone have a video camera? [03:43] iheartubunut: svg would be best since it is scalable [03:44] Anyone going to be there for Ubucon with a tether phone? [03:44] I will (if needed) [03:45] As will I [03:45] ok [03:45] More discussions on details of SCALE setup etc. will happen on the mailing list, channel in the days leading up to the conference. I think we will plan some sort of meeting on the Friday during/after ubucon [03:46] +1 for after Ubucon [03:46] Is there a meeting next Sunday? [03:46] erichammond1: you mean in two weeks? [03:46] Alright- lets plan on streaming some of Ubucon- [03:46] I am not yet sure - given that a larger fraction of the team will be at scale [03:46] jdeslip: oh, nevermind. SCALE is sneaking up fast. [03:46] It got moved to an in-person one on Saturday last year, which I thought was helpful. [03:47] * MarkDude can create an acct for Ustream- or the Team can use mine [03:47] rww: sounds like a good idea [03:47] rww, if everyone had known about it sure :) [03:48] How about a meeting on the Friday after Ubucon - which can serve as a meet and greet and a planning meeting for the next two days? [03:48] MarkDude: Given all the places that meeting times are posted... [03:49] Ustream also allows for remote participation [03:49] folks can ask questions [03:49] Let's not worry too much about what happened last time, ok ;) I'll send an email to the list proposing a meeting Friday night and trying to get peoples schedules aligned [03:49] jdeslip: Saturday was useful as a "We've done one day of booth. What changes do we need to make for day two?". I'm not gonna be there, though, so my preferences don't count ;) [03:50] * MarkDude is making sure we get the details set as to when to meet- they shifted last time [03:50] No worries, water under the bridge [03:50] rww: not a bad point. I'll send the email to the list and see what people want. Friday or Saturday. [03:50] (and as far as I know, ustream only works if you use Flash, so I won't be remote attending) [03:50] wiki: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/Scale9x edited [03:50] OK... So lets wrap this up for real. Thanks for coming everyone! [03:51] The next official IRC meeting will therefore be in 4 weeks, and we will have an in-person meeting either Friday or Saturday at SCALE [03:52] ---------------------- End of Official Meeting ---------------- [03:52] * rww cuts along dotted line [03:52] * MarkDude will create West Coast Ubuntu for streaming- considering it can be used at OSCON [03:53] unless there is objection- I am willing to help- I just have time for ML [03:53] MarkDude: please not West Coast Ubuntu [03:53] we have enough names as it is [03:53] and have also streamed at events before [03:54] I recommend ubuntu-us-ca but there are other ideas I am sure [03:54] MarkDude: I'd talk to nhaines first, make sure he is OK (and thinks speakers) are OK with streaming video. [03:54] California Ubuntu Team? [03:54] at ubucon that is [03:54] Since, he is the lead for that event, I think this should be passed by him [03:55] jdeslip, I am willing to bet at least 1 speaker will be- I plan on that [03:55] anything more will be bonus [03:56] Or not. Just trying to help here [03:56] I think it is not a good idea: just make sure the organizers/speakers for ubucon are on board ;0 [03:57] I good. [03:57] k [03:57] I mean... my documentation talk at campDKE last year is on youtube lol [03:57] *CampKDE [03:57] MarkDude: California Ubuntu Team is another variant but is better than West Coast Ubuntu. Did you see the discussion during the meeting a month ago? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/11January16 [03:58] DarkwingDuck: in WebM format, I hope ;P? [03:58] DarkwingDuck, and if I was from Europe I would hella view it :D [03:58] I meant to say I think it "IS" a good idea. [03:58] rww: :P [03:58] MarkDude: KDE rocks in the US Brother [03:58] As long as nhaines and speakers are on board [03:58] grantbow, chill, not really going to use the name [03:58] Calibuntu Forniloco [03:58] just as DarkwingDuck knows that KDE is just fine :) [03:59] hehehe [03:59] rww +1 [03:59] rww: +2 [03:59] rww: Sameer has recorded Ustream from his Android phone and I don't think he has flash on it. [03:59] And a nice color blue I might add [03:59] Why not just live stream under the Ubucon or SCALE event name [03:59] I would say Ubucon name [03:59] I have hired a videographer for Ubucon and am preliminarily planning to stream live via Ustream, please do not make aditional plans for recording at Ubucon. [03:59] Sometimes sites server flash to desktop browsers and other formats to phones, I gather. [03:59] grantbow: There are apps for iPhone and Android, yeah. I don't think there's a normal computer interface that doesn't use Flash. Or rather, I couldn't find one when I tried. [03:59] (Personal recording is fine by me as long as it doesn't disrupt.) [04:00] rww: kk [04:00] nhaines, is correct [04:00] nhaines: thanks for the info [04:00] nhaines: nice! who have you hired? [04:00] nhaines: Did you recieve my email? [04:00] That was the #1 thing for streaming- was not letting the tech get in the way [04:01] Video is still dicey that way, so many incompatible formats and platforms. [04:01] grantbow: David Ellsworth, who did the camerawork for SCaLE8X too. [04:01] DarkwingDuck: yes I did! [04:01] nhaines: awesome! [04:01] It was used for questions/statements just a bit- but that was helpful [04:02] akk: yes, we had some problems streaming at the OLPC SF summit a few months back with some laptops we hadn't tested before the event. Last minute scramble finally got something running but it wasn't ideal. [04:02] Ok, so I think that resolves the video issue: nhaines has it covered [04:02] Whoot! [04:02] jdeslip: yes [04:02] Flannel: ping [04:02] nhaines: thanks for handling this :-) [04:03] OK, I am off for the evening. Thanks for all your scale9x commitments everyone! I am really looking forward to meeting everyone! [04:04] grantbow: the video setup for Ubucon last year was major fail so I'm bringing in someone this year. It should be a lot smoother. [04:04] same here jdeslip [04:04] later jdeslip [04:04] akk http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/12036933 [04:04] nhaines: it wasn't a major fail... it failed but, I don't think that was your fault. [04:04] the suond is bad due to the mic [04:05] me/ thinks markdude looks like a professional baseball player [04:05] DarkwingDuck: the Flip couldn't offload the video fast enough and we didn't really have access to the laptop between sessions anyway, so it was poor planning. [04:05] lol [04:05] possibly a pitcher in an imagined W.P. Kinsella short story [04:06] nhaines: Yeah... I think my netbook dying was just as bad LOL [04:06] It's true, in that hat he does look like a baseball player. [04:07] Well ty. I would rather be told I look like a baseball player than say a football or rugby player [04:08] MarkDude: you look like you should play bowling :P:P [04:08] * MarkDude has NO stache now [04:08] No? [04:09] I have one and a goatee now [04:09] or an Oregen lumberjack. [04:09] hehehe [04:09] actually... even without the suit MarkDude looks more and more like a penguin [04:09] :p [04:10] lol [04:10] iheartubuntu, the full transformation will take a while tho [04:10] * iheartubuntu will examine his feet/flippers at scale [04:10] MarkDude: are you bringing the penguin suit? [04:11] Well a replacement [04:11] :) [04:11] the original is in Venezuela [04:11] nice [04:11] ahhhh sweet [04:11] Slightly battle damaged, but still has life in it [04:11] the replacemnt is still in AZ [04:11] hehehe [04:12] long story [04:12] Robyn will be bringing it with her [04:12] * MarkDude misses having a suit at present [04:13] http://www.flickr.com/photos/tatadbb/5425001844/ [04:13] There is the suit at a Debian party in Caracas [04:14] :D [04:15] * MarkDude has been given assignments to take some pics with the suit doing various things [04:19] Cleanshaven I have more of a youth pastor look I think [04:29] akk: tuxmeteor is quite cool, thanks. [04:30] * rww ponders laptop + CRT [04:33] sorry its taking me so long on this SVG - i havent used inkscape for a few months :) [04:33] * MarkDude wonders why no one has ever said that I look like a scientist/professor [04:34] lol [04:34] because you don't ;P? [04:34] [04:34] rww I know [04:34] iheartubuntu - might be easier to edit the markup by hand but I haven't tried it [04:34] almost done [04:35] anyone editing the wiki at this point- the Scale page? [04:35] going home, have fun all [04:35] It's generated, not hand-written in the first place, so I imagine it's probably a mess internally. [04:35] Later Dangerous G [04:41] can i post files to the mailing list? [04:41] iheartubuntu: How big? [04:41] 1.3mb [04:42] iheartubuntu: I wouldn't recommend it. [04:43] Some options: 1) learn bzr and upload it to the LP repo, 2) put it on the wiki, 3) put it on Ubuntu One / some hosting site [04:43] if you don't know bzr already, the SCaLE page of the wiki might be a good bet. [04:43] ok i can put it on the wiki or somethin [04:43] or email it to someone who can put it into bzr for you :) [04:43] whats bzr [04:44] iheartubuntu: the version control software that the CD sleeve files are in [04:44] bazaar, revision control that launchpad uses [04:49] * pleia2 back to guests [04:49] BAH! [04:49] let 'em fend [04:49] :P:P [04:59] ah, right on time [05:00] hah [05:05] Awesome >> Internal Server Error [05:06] MarkDude: on the wiki? that's why I edit in kate and copypaste over. [05:06] not the most reliable server [05:09] Yes, copypasta is your friend [05:10] gedit works if you know what you are doing- or in my case keep it simple :) [05:11] * MarkDude bows to ple ia2 and her inflatable penguin [05:28] Is there any plan to alter the Ubuntu California Team logo to a more updated design in connection with the new Ubuntu font & logos? [05:28] iheartubuntu: not at present. [05:28] im not sure there is a need. I like what we have with the state of California in the logo [05:29] pleia2: did Canonical provide new-branding Ubuntu nametags? [05:29] when I have some free time i might do a few mockups and see what everyone thinks [05:33] orange :P [05:33] The Ca logo rocks [05:34] It was even appreciated at FUDcon [05:56] rww too bad you are not on FB anymore http://www.fbanners.com/banners/932/i+like+turtles.html [05:57] I deleted my cat's facebook profile today. [05:57] are we pushing kubuntu as well? will we have any kubuntu setups? [05:57] also, this website confuses me. what is a banner [05:57] iheartubuntu: DarkwingDuck will be there, so hopefully [05:57] viva la KDE [06:13] iheartubuntu: Yes [06:14] I have Kubuntu on my laptop and I am pushing Kubuntu [06:14] turtles taste great [06:15] :) That they do [06:16] wiki: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/Scale9x edited [06:46] iheartubuntu: you might want to check the Ubuntu branding guidelines from Canonical. [06:47] ?? [06:47] for the logo ideas? [06:47] Branding guideline violations aside, the biggest things that jump out at me from the CD sleeves is that the Ubuntu logo is *way* too big and I'd rather see 32-bit/64-bit instead of i386/AMD64 [06:47] No, for the CD sleeves. [06:48] It amuses me that Debian and Ubuntu call their 32-bit x86 architecture i386, and neither support i386 processors ;) [06:49] I can change it, I just used what was there [06:50] if the new logo was too big, then wasnt the old one too big? would you happen to have a link to the guidelines? [06:51] * iheartubuntu wonders if Canonical should provide basic artwork like cd sleeves so the brand image doesnt deviate [06:52] http://design.canonical.com/the-toolkit/brand-communication-guide/ [06:52] http://design.canonical.com/the-toolkit/ubuntu-brand-guidelines/ [06:52] i think the ubuntu name & logo would look out of proportion with the rest of the cover it was much smaller [06:52] ty [06:55] Anyway, I just think the logo's too big and looks cramped. [06:57] it would be helpful if those guidelines had links to all the SVGs of the examples in the PDFs [06:58] i will try to update it based on the spacing around the name/logo and see how it turns out. [06:59] any searches i do pulls up OLD svgs [07:01] surprising whomever made the PDFs at canonicals pages didnt embed links to the various files they talk about [07:02] iheartubuntu: they're all available from the ubuntu-brand-guidelines page. [07:03] logo assets? [07:04] yup thats it. thanks nhaines ! [07:06] No prob. [07:09] approved to switch to 32 bit and 64 bit? [07:10] i like that much better than 386/amd64 [07:11]