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pooliehi guys00:56
pooliei've just been bitten by bug 57593700:56
poolie:(00:56
ubot4Launchpad bug 575937 in tomboy (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Can't synchronize Tomboy Notes: Server returned 404 NOT FOUND (affects: 27) (dups: 5) (heat: 144)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/57593700:56
pooliethis is about the third time i've ended up with all my notes conflicting :(00:56
duanedesignpoolie: did the script mentioned in the bug work?06:46
pooliei didn't try it because 2 or 3 other people reported it didn't work06:47
duanedesignpoolie: yeah. I guess it was a silly question. Had the script worked you wouldnt have conflicting notes06:47
pooliehm06:48
poolieand would it have worked?06:48
duanedesignpoolie: i have not used it before06:55
ryeduanedesign, poolie ?06:55
duanedesignbug 57593706:56
ubot4Launchpad bug 575937 in tomboy (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Can't synchronize Tomboy Notes: Server returned 404 NOT FOUND (affects: 27) (dups: 5) (heat: 144)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/57593706:56
ryemorning, by the way06:56
ryeawesome06:56
duanedesign:)06:56
ryepoolie, what ubuntu version are you on?06:56
ryebasically that script takes the oauth credentials from the token that syncdaemon is using and stuffs them into gconf, preserving tomboy notes token.06:58
ryeundecided, incomplete?06:58
ryeconfirmed, high!06:58
ryeah, it is undecided and incomplete for tomboy06:59
ryeand that's correct because tomboy does not know how to delete oauth tokens07:00
poolieistm that tomboy could be a bit smarter about resolving conflicts too07:07
pooliein some of these the two versions seem identical07:07
ryepoolie, tomboy does not resolve the conflicts, it either renames the local version or overwrites it, it does not check the contents and uses only revision ids07:12
ryewell, somehow that's conflict resolution07:12
pooliei know; it would be nice if it at least checked if the texts were identical07:14
ryepoolie, re bug #689982, i understand it may be a bit late, but do you have any fragment of the repetitive xsession-errors messages from that era?07:47
ubot4Launchpad bug 689982 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu) "spins, writing errors, in gnome_settings_manager_stop (affects: 1) (heat: 64)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/68998207:47
poolierye, i believe it was just that one line i quoted08:13
poolie>> assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed08:13
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ralsinagood morning everyone!11:27
karnihi ralsina :)11:29
duanedesignhello ralsina karni11:40
karnihi duanedesign :)11:41
duanedesignU1 is looking great on Natty11:41
karniduanedesign: I'm a little afraid of the new UI. does it rock ;) ? I'm very fond of Gnome.11:43
duanedesignI am on classic desktop at the moment. Though Ii do like Unity11:44
karniaha :)11:44
karniduanedesign: is the classic installed by default, too?11:45
duanedesignI had to make a smart ass coment on OMG Ubuntu. They had an article about the new indicators and of course there was complaining11:45
karniduanedesign: throw the link at me11:45
duanedesignwith indicators, complaining. with out indicators, complaining. /me facepalms11:46
duanedesignkarni: sure11:46
karni:D11:46
duanedesignhttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/02/ubuntu-one-in-natty-becomes-notification-savvy/#dsq-new-post11:46
duanedesignoops, probablly take off that last bit11:47
karniok11:47
karni"Same here; development files were lost because of its bad syncing." jezz.. ppl don't know what svn, git, bzr, etc is ? I'd never use Db neither U1 for syncing my trunk sources.11:55
zygahi12:27
zygaI just installed nightly on maverick, it seems there is a dependency missing12:27
zygaTraceback (most recent call last):12:28
zyga  File "/usr/bin/u1sdtool", line 33, in <module>12:28
zyga    from ubuntuone.platform.linux.tools import (12:28
zygaImportError: No module named platform.linux.tools12:28
zygais there anything I can install quickly to resolve this?12:28
duanedesignhello zyga12:30
ralsinazyga: I'm afraid that's probably not a dependency but instead that our maverick nightlies are broken12:30
zygauh :/12:30
ralsinazyga: should be fixed in a couple of hours12:30
zygaI did this to check a bugfix related to bug 69014512:30
ubot4Launchpad bug 690145 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu) "ubuntuone-preferenes fails to start when network load is high (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/69014512:30
zygaralsina, oh, great - I can wait12:30
ralsinazyga: sorry about that12:31
karnifacundobatista: hey :) what's SYS_CONNECTION_RETRY ? does it mean SD should reconnect or it means SD *is* reconnecting?12:45
ryeralsina, broken nightlies on maverick? I suppose natty is ok now?12:47
ryesince i am running that12:47
ralsinarye: well, natty nightlies were ok friday night and I am using them12:47
ryehm, why would maverick ones break?12:48
* rye is checking...12:48
facundobatistakarni, see docs/states_manager.svg , SYS_CONNECTION_RETRY means that it went to READY state, ready to reconnect if conditions ok12:48
ralsinarye: that is a missing file so I would guess packaging rules?12:48
ryeralsina, arghhh12:48
karnifacundobatista: oh.. thanks!12:48
alecuhello all!13:42
ralsinahello alecu! You are in OMGUbuntu!13:43
alecuyeah, I saw it during the weekend :-)13:43
alecuralsina, I also couldn't help but read the comments... and they talk about how annoying popups turn out to be :-(13:45
ralsinaalecu: don't worry, that's nerd talk13:46
karnialecu: I think they look really nice. does it pop up when it connects for the first time?13:46
ralsinaalecu: and if you tell them "disable them here", they shut up ;-)13:46
karniralsina++13:46
alecuI love this comment by duanedesign: "Ubuntu One had notifications in the first release. People complained so they were removed. Then people complained because they were gone. Now they are back and guess what...people are complaining."13:47
kklimondayeah13:47
ralsinaalecu: as long as there are people that want them and people who doesn't, you will get complains both ways. It's just a matter of being smart and choosing who to annoy13:47
karnifor those who'd get annoyed, theres the indicator by rye, right?13:49
ryekarni, it is not yet compatibile with unleashed-queues syncdaemon13:50
karnirye: ack13:50
karnirye, alecu: I like both of your work!13:50
ryekarni, bug #71717213:51
ubot4Launchpad bug 717172 in ubuntuone-control-panel (and 1 other project) "Allow pynotify notifications to be enabled/disabled (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/71717213:51
karni(although I haven't used it myself! lol ;) )13:51
karnibut I read articles and saw screenshots of them.13:51
karnirye: tnx13:51
ryekarni, my sd is stuck now and is in constant "WORKING", every 10 minutes i get a popup13:51
karnirye: not sure why you telling me this? :) you'll be able to turn the popups off in the final release (That's what I read)13:52
karnirye: you can't blame pop'ups for not knowing SD is 'stuck' ;) but certainly it's at least a papercut13:53
alecukarni, I love your work too, and I'll probably be asking you a few android dev questions in a little while :-)13:53
karnialecu: you'll love it more once it's ready! :) I'll be happy to answer your questions.13:54
ralsinaalecu dobey thisfred standup in 4'13:56
thisfredroger wilco13:56
ralsinamandel, standup in 4'13:56
ralsinanessita is not here because she spent the weekend rocking, everyone else is on loan :-)13:57
mandelme14:00
thisfredtoo early14:00
mandelno, its 15:0014:00
thisfrednope14:00
thisfrednow it is14:00
thisfredme14:00
mandelcunt ;)14:00
mandelme14:00
* karni chuckles14:01
alecuhmmm....14:01
dobeyme14:01
alecume14:01
ralsiname14:02
thisfredDONE: Add icon to bubbles (Bug #717312)14:02
thisfredTODO: u1couch API. Bug #702183, Bug #702116, make UDF notifications aggregate14:02
thisfredBLOCKED: Don't know if xorg and the nvidia drivers are working14:02
ubot4Launchpad bug 717312 in ubuntuone-client "Icon not shown on messaging menu (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/71731214:02
ubot4Launchpad bug 702183 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Syncdaemon needs to open the control panel in the background and change the launcher icon to urgent when the user exceeds their quota (affects: 1) (heat: 120)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/70218314:02
ubot4Launchpad bug 702116 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Syncdaemon needs to show and update a progressbar in the Ubuntu One launcher for pending operations (affects: 1) (heat: 120)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/70211614:02
thisfredmandel: you14:02
mandelDONE: Splited dbus reusable code so that it can be used on windows .Added tests to ensure methods relay the params correctly. Experimented with namepipes over the weekend and decide to go with twisted pb.14:02
mandelTODO: Implement twisted pb server & client.14:02
mandelBLOCKED: no14:02
mandelLOVE: jar food14:02
mandelHATE: open jars with 1 arm14:02
mandeldobey, please14:02
ralsinacome on dobey, I have a call in 6 minutes :-)14:03
dobeyλ DONE: releases for narwhal, fix tiny distcheck issue,14:04
dobeyλ TODO: banshee mustic store fixes, finish bug 673012, evaluate SRUs for maverick14:04
dobeyλ BLCK: on-call for jury duty14:04
dobeyalecu: go14:04
alecuDONE: worked on a branch to add dbus configurable notifications14:04
alecuTODO: finish said branch, resume droidcouch api work14:04
alecuBLOCKED: no14:04
ralsinaDONE: reviews, canonicaladmin, bug #714976 bug #71267414:04
ralsinaTODO: reviews, management stuff, sprint planning, triage another 8 tons of bugs, some coding (my days are all alike)14:04
ralsinaBLOCKED: no14:04
ubot4ralsina: Bug 714976 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/714976 is private14:04
alecu(oh, I forgot another TODO: setup natty on my desktop, and look into libunity again)14:05
dobeyworkstation14:05
ralsinaCan I get reviews for https://code.launchpad.net/~ralsina/ubuntuone-client/fix_712674_on_1.4/+merge/49460 and https://code.launchpad.net/~ralsina/ubuntuone-client/fix_714976/+merge/49623 ? Don't be too harsh on me ;-)14:06
dobeyunless you mean you're going to burn a cd, and prop it up on your desk14:06
mandeldobey: natty runs on any arch, even furnitures ;)14:06
thisfredralsina: on it14:06
ralsinathisfred: cool, thx14:06
alecudobey, my laptop is a workstation too14:06
ralsinamandel: call on cparrino's number in 4'14:06
mandelralsina: ok, launches skype14:07
dobeyalecu: well, it indeed does not fit in a pocket14:07
thisfredralsina: ah, both C. That's probably best left to someone with more C-fu, sry14:08
alecudobey, I've got a pocket in my backpack that fits my laptop!14:08
ralsinathisfred: well, they would probably have been better DONE by someone with better C-fu, too ;-)14:09
dobeyenough with the flattery already14:09
ralsinaBut hey, it's coding, and it has kept me smiling through the morning :-)14:09
ralsinadobey: I thought you told me incomplete bugs expire by themselves?14:10
dobeyralsina: after some arbitrary period of time, yes. not a few days. it's like 2 months or something14:10
ralsinadobey: check https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/41871214:10
ubot4ralsina: Error: Bug #418712 is private.14:10
ralsinaIt turned 13-months old saturday :-)14:10
dobeyralsina: ah, the configuration option was disabled for some reason. i just enabled it14:11
dobeyralsina: and that bug was only set to incomplete 1 month ago14:12
dobeyralsina: the timeout is determined from that time, not when the bug was filed14:12
ralsina 2010-01-12 is not a month ago14:13
dobeyoh, right. nevermind me then14:13
ralsinathe old YYYY-MM-DD strikes again :-)14:14
dobeyno14:14
dobeythe "not quite awake yet" strikes again14:14
ralsinahahahaha14:14
ralsinaI had to look twice, luckily Joshua had a comment on 2009-08-25 :-)14:15
dobeyi just keep forgetting it's 201114:15
dobeyat least, until i'm more awake14:16
ralsinadobey: got rid of the blank lines in https://code.launchpad.net/~ralsina/ubuntuone-client/fix_712674_on_1.4/+merge/4946014:41
dobeyok14:48
alecuHola nessita! I'm loving the new look of the control panel initial screen.14:58
nessitahi alecu. Thanks! all design and UX team credit15:02
dobeyhrmm15:04
dobeysomething seems wrong with launchpad15:04
dobeyrodrigo_: did you see https://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/tarmac/no-more-edge/+merge/49649 ?15:23
rodrigo_dobey, no, looking15:28
rodrigo_dobey, tarmac? you want me to approve that?15:38
dobeyrodrigo_: err, sorry. stupid paste error :(15:41
dobeyrodrigo_: https://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/couchdb-glib/vapi-build/+merge/4928115:41
karniTime to go buy breakfast. I'm calling it a day, I'll be online a little later if anybody needs me.15:57
joshuahooveralecu, thisfred: how's the unity work going?16:02
thisfredjoshuahoover: not so good: I have an nvidia card, and so no way to run unity16:04
thisfredthough I have not tried updating today yet16:04
alecujoshuahoover, we've also been trying the latest libunity builds, but they don't yet work with python.16:05
alecujoshuahoover, there's a bug for that, let me find it.16:05
thisfredyeah that too16:05
joshuahooveralecu, thisfred: are you guys in touch with anyone from the dx team about this? this is a HUGE roadblock for us to get unity integration working on time for feature freeze16:06
thisfredwe're subscribedt o the overarching bug that's tracking the second issue16:07
joshuahooverif you guys get me the bug # i can follow up on it :)16:07
thisfredI don't know what can be done about nvidia and xorg not working together16:07
alecubug #70924016:08
ubot4alecu: Bug 709240 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/709240 is private16:08
thisfredah thx, almost had it16:08
joshuahooverthanks alecu and thisfred!16:08
alecuwell, it's not private!16:08
dobeythisfred: you can downgrade to the non-broken xorg, and don't do a dist-upgrade16:08
* dobey hugs his still-working nvidia :)16:08
thisfreddobey, which version would that be? :)16:09
dobeyii  xorg           1:7.6~3ubuntu4 X.Org X Window System16:09
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dobeyi've just been doing apt-get upgrade, and for the things held back which aren't X, for whatever reason, doing install $package for them separately, and avoiding dist-upgrade16:10
dobeyalso avoiding dist-upgrade because i don't want to get things re-installed which i explicitly removed already16:10
thisfreddobey: thx!16:11
thisfredof course I'll probably have to downgrade a bunch of other stuff16:12
dobeythisfred: well, only the xorg packages16:12
dobeyafaict16:12
joshuahooveralecu, thisfred, ralsina: #1 & #3 in bug #709240 are fixed, so that leaves #2 in that bug, which ken is following up on since it's also blocking the new gwibber on natty16:15
ubot4joshuahoover: Bug 709240 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/709240 is private16:15
alecujoshuahoover, great. Do you know what irc channel is this being worked on?16:16
joshuahooveralecu: good question, i'm not sure...let me find out16:16
rodrigo_dobey, added a comment to the branch16:17
dobeyrodrigo_: cool, thanks16:17
alecujoshuahoover, I would guess #ayatana on freenode16:18
dobeyrodrigo_: i'll try to move them over. it's easier to keep them in the same dir for the dependencies though16:19
rodrigo_dobey, yeah, but I prefer having the test programs separated, so if it's not too much hassle, please move them16:21
dobeyyeah i will look and see16:21
gekkerwhat info do i need to provide, for a nautilus crash when ubuntuone-syncdaemon is running?16:37
gekkerin a bug report...16:37
thisfreddobey I'm not having much luck with downgrading xorg. How would you go about that? apt-get install package=version does not seem to work16:57
thisfredmaybe I should just go with a VM on my other machine17:10
dobeythisfred: not sure. what's the error?17:15
thisfreddobey: no error it says 'xorg is already at the newest version'17:19
thisfredwhich yeah, it is17:19
dobeythisfred: you did apt-get install xorg=1:7.6-3ubuntu4?17:20
thisfredyessir17:21
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thisfredhmmm apt-cache show does not show a newer version either17:23
dobeyor look in your /var/cache/apt/archives/ directory for the older xorg packages17:24
thisfredI have 3ubuntu3 and 3ubuntu1 in addition to 3ubuntu4... But if it works for you with 4, I wonder what is up17:26
thisfredmaybe it's the nvidia drivers rather than xorg that need to be held back17:28
thisfredhmm, or xorg-core17:30
dobeyi don't know, i never had to downgrade xorg, because i never upgraded it to the new broken version in the first place17:31
dobeythisfred: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/567054/17:31
thisfredthx. trying virtualbox in parallel, who knows that works17:32
thisfredyeah virtualbox does not work with unity yet either17:58
thisfred*or* I can break my laptop even more, and install xorg from xorg-edgers. At least that one doesn't conflict with nvidia-current...18:06
thisfredtotally doing that18:06
dobeywell it doesn't matter because the ABI changed, so the nvidia driver won't load18:09
* karni has a terrible headache ouch18:30
ralsinayou can make it ignore the ABI change and it works18:30
ralsinaI was in that situation in Arch a few months ago18:30
ralsinaI think something like X -ignore-abi or similar18:31
ralsinas/and it works/and it may work/18:31
dobeyoh right, that worked with the previous X+nvidia break18:31
dobeybut i guess maybe not now18:31
ralsinawell, it's something to try at least :-)18:32
ralsinadobey: can you re-check https://code.launchpad.net/~ralsina/ubuntuone-client/fix_714976/+merge/49623 ?18:37
dobeydone18:43
ralsinadobey: coo, thx!18:47
ralsinadobey: you were totally right about the published files thing, BTW18:48
dobeyi try :)18:49
ralsinahehehe19:01
ralsinaNow I only need a simple way to test doing async calls to syncdaemon and see if it ever returns anything. Because either it never does or it returns empty, and I am tired of debugging in programs that disassociate from terminals ;-)19:02
dobeyralsina: write a python script that does the call with async dbus then :)19:06
ralsinadobey: yeah, that's the plan19:07
ralsinadobey: but I believe on tracing bugs in the app where they happen until it's impractical. Now it's impractical ;-)19:07
dobeyi tend to prefer until evidence points elsewhere, rather than impracticality :)19:08
dobeyi tend to find tracing bugs in any app to be generally impractical anyway19:08
ralsinadobey: well, it is particularly impractical in gtk+ apps in my short experience, since I can't attach a freaking debugger ;-)19:08
dobeyyes you can19:09
dobeyattach <pid> works in gdb regardless of the widget library :)19:09
dobeyand in python you can embed pdb anywhere you want, of course19:10
ralsinadobey: yes, I can attach but then I can't set breakpoints because I must be missing some debugging symbols19:14
ralsinadobey: I use pudb19:14
ralsinaon python, that is19:14
dobeywell you can always just g_warn ("blah blah") in the code, and remove it when you finish debugging :)19:15
ralsinadobey: I resorted to fprintf :-D19:16
ralsinadobey: looks like bug #576408 is the exact same bug as in the published files, but for udfs.19:25
ubot4Launchpad bug 576408 in ubuntuone-client ""Share on Ubuntu One" and "Stop synchronizing on Ubuntu One" menu items disabled (affects: 7) (heat: 30)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/57640819:25
ralsinayay, I get to learn how to use syncdaemon from python now  :-)19:25
ralsinaAnybody wants to laugh and tell my why a small script is obviously wrong?20:28
ralsinahttps://pastebin.canonical.com/43304/20:28
karniralsina: oops I don't think I'm authorized ;)20:29
* karni lied. I just wan't stay away from U1F for longer than an hour..20:30
ralsinakarni: it's a python+dbus script, I can put it on a public pastebin :-)20:30
karniralsina: oh, if it's dbus, then no need xD20:30
ralsinahehe20:30
karniralsina: hhaha sorry, I haven't been there (yet!)20:30
ralsinakarni: it's fun, in a way ;-)20:31
alecuralsina, will take a look in 40'20:31
ralsinaalecu: awesome20:31
* alecu runs to kindergarten20:31
karniralsina: I only know it's a bus of messages, event/signal driven. and I'm soo making use of such approach right now in U1F20:31
ralsinaalecu: don't hurt yourself laughing at it, but I am learning twisted and DBus is pretty opaque to me20:32
ralsinakarni: having DBus is one of the best parts of coding on Linux20:32
karniralsina: :)20:32
ralsinakarni: sadly I know it's cool and I have used it, but I don't quite understand it20:32
ralsinakarni: it's quite jargon-heavy20:32
karniralsina: at least you have used it, which I can't say about myself (doh)20:32
ralsinakarni: hehehe20:33
ralsinaby used it, I mostly mean  I have bashed my head against it for hours20:33
karnibut I know U1 and other apps use it to send messages between each other20:33
ralsinaBut now I have people I can ask and they have to explain it to me! mbwahahaha20:33
karniralsina: that's something (I have really *used* Android then ;) )20:33
karniralsina: hahahah20:33
karniralsina: the worst part of the whole adventure is that we hit at least 3 Android bugs during AU1 / U1F developmnent, which drove me really crazy :<20:37
ralsinaThat sucks20:37
beunokarni, if you don't hit system bugs, whatever you're doing is not terribly exciting  ;)20:37
karniralsina: for example, there's no Base64 url safe encoder!20:37
karnibeuno: hahah20:38
ralsinaOh, hehe, I found how to trigger notifications without doing anything useful.20:38
karnibeuno: right! just the thought of deadlines is enough 'exciting' ;)20:38
beunodeadlines, I have rarely seen people killed by those lines20:38
ralsinakarni: what do you want? Writing CRUD for store stocking systems? ;-)20:38
ralsinaTurns out that if you connect via DBUS to syncdaemon and ask for anything, you get a "Synchroniation finished" bubble :-)20:39
ralsinaEven if you didn't upload or download anything20:39
karnibeuno: remember how we had that favourite file sync feature? ATM I'm working on *uploading*/sync those fav items based on timestamp if it's modified locally (say, somebody added some notes to a text file or modified a picture)20:39
karniralsina: that's messy ;)20:40
karnibeuno: I mean, it syncs-down, and I want them to sync-up as well.20:40
beunokarni, awesome20:40
karnibeuno: got a sec? I'd like to ask about the disk space management. I've got an idea but haven't documented it yet20:42
beunokarni, sure20:42
karnibeuno: so basically, you open an activity to manage files/space20:42
karnibeuno: you receive info how many files/folders you have, how many of these are favourite and how many just downloaded20:42
karnibeuno: you have an option to clear the downloaded/cached files [non-fav], or.. and now the question20:43
karnibeuno: perhaps a list of favoruite files sorted desc. by last time modified, which once you unselect gets deleted as well - what do you think?20:43
karnibeuno: we can delete cached files, but we can't just 'remove all fav's too', unless that's what the user explicitly wants.20:44
karnibeuno: because at the same time, we turn of the 'favourite' status of an entry. thus, we sync the file no more.20:44
karnibeuno: also, an option to specify how much at most U1 can take up20:45
beunoso, it sounds more like a filter than a sorting option20:46
karniif the user fills that up, he'll get notified next time he want's to download a file20:46
* beuno nods20:46
beunothat sounds good20:46
karnibeuno: what I meant - list all favourite files, but sorted from (doh!) less recently modified. so that user can start unselecting some.20:46
beunokarni, right, I don't know if I would sort by recently modified by default20:47
karnibeuno: I also permitted the app to connect on wifi/mobile (while not roaming), but sync only when suitable connection is present20:47
karnibeuno: uhm. any ideas? that list idea is pretty fresh, so we can totally change that20:48
beunokarni, I would group by which folder they are in, and sort alphabetically, closer to what they actually see on the regular view20:48
karnibeuno: makes perfect sense, will do that.20:48
beunoI think ordering it by last modified assumes people will stop syncing the newest or oldest, and I'm not sure that's the case most of the time or not20:49
karnicoming back to connection - I did that because the user may want to download a single file on mobile, even if mobile is not his/her preffered sync connection20:49
karnibeuno: right.. I just thought that files which are syned more often [i.e. are favourite and more frequently downlaoded] are less likely to be unchecked20:50
beunokarni, +1 on the connection config20:50
karnigood20:50
beunokarni, so, I'm not sure if that would be the case vs folders that use up the most space, for example20:51
karnibeuno: I'll compile the feature list for the space management and ping you for an ack20:51
beunoso, if there isn't a super obvious default, use whatever everything else is using  :)20:51
karniaa right..20:51
karnibeuno: we can definitely make that space management screen much more fancier in the future20:53
beunokarni, design is working on it as we speak!20:54
karnibeuno: right! =D20:55
karnibeuno: I'm thinking of droppping the 'favourite file' in favour of 'synced file' as in 'synced folder' (formal name for UDF, if I'm not mistaken. that's what aquarius said once)20:58
beunokarni, yeah, that sounds more accurate20:58
karniokey20:58
karnithe user will instantly know what we're talking about if we say 'synced files take up X megs' 'you have selected Y synced files' etc20:59
karniheh, I *always* get Internal Server Error when saving a wiki page, and it *always* saves correctly21:15
kklimondayeah21:17
karnibeuno: I've scribbled some of those notes at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/mkarnicki/u1f/#Brainstorming under Disk-space management. you probably subscribed to the wiki anyway. feel free to edit anything anytime.21:17
karniI'll grab something to drink.21:17
ralsinabeuno: what't the name of your team on launchpad?21:17
kklimondait's a known problem, it should go away when they update wiki at some point (there is a bug about it)21:17
ralsinaAnd, are you the ones that should get funambol bugs?21:18
karniubot4: @ping21:25
ubot4ping-pong, a fun game for all the family21:25
karnipong would be enough, but thanks ;)21:25
beunoralsina, ~ubuntuone-web21:38
beunokarni, looking21:38
ralsinabeuno, thx!21:38
beunokarni, right, KB/s, the same as on the desktop client21:38
karnibeuno: ac21:49
karni*ack21:49
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ralsinaeod for me. have a nice evening!22:53
karniralsina: thanks, bye bye22:58
karnitime for supper. have a nice evening guys23:22
karniI could use those markers at that stage with the upload command, but - there's a simpler way to do that, and I'm going to do just that.23:22
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