[13:47] <charlie-tca> xubuntu 10.04.2 386 images will not boot at all
[14:04] <charlie-tca> any help with these would be great! cjwatson will look in about 3 hours 
[14:28] <charlie-tca> problem found
[14:55] <charlie-tca> w00t! 10.04.2 with 10.04 LTS docs even... also got firefox 3.6.13
[16:31] <charlie-tca> cody-somerville: busy? my Xubuntu amd64 desktop image for 10.04.2 is oversize and I need to try and get it down 10MB or so
[16:48] <charlie-tca> mr_pouit, micahg :  Xubuntu amd64 desktop image for 10.04.2 is oversize and I need to try and get it down 8-10MB or so. the image is at 704MB now
[17:10] <micahg> charlie-tca: classically that has meant to drop a language pack
[17:11] <charlie-tca> how/who do I do that?
[17:11] <micahg> charlie-tca: that I don't know :)
[17:11] <charlie-tca> oh
[17:11] <charlie-tca> thanks, at least I got that much now
[17:11] <micahg> at least I think that's what Ubuntu does
[17:14] <charlie-tca> powerpc images will stay oversize, too
[17:42] <cody-somerville> to drop language packages, we update the seeds
[17:42] <cody-somerville> although I'm curious how it got oversized. Our releases usually leave a fair bit of room I thought.
[17:43] <charlie-tca> I think the new docs did it, but I am not positive
[17:43] <charlie-tca> Can we update and make it fit a cd again?
[17:45] <cody-somerville> FYI, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/567059/
[17:47] <cody-somerville> release amd64 was 695M, amd64 is now 704M
[17:47] <charlie-tca> yeah, I need to make it 700 or less again
[17:50] <micahg> Firefox and Thunderbird updates probably didn't help with size
[17:50] <charlie-tca> cody-somerville: can you remove a language pack?
[17:51] <cody-somerville> yea
[17:51] <charlie-tca> Thanks
[17:52] <charlie-tca> I seem pretty determined to get this one, huh?
[17:52] <cody-somerville> xubuntu-docs is only 1.9Mbs btw
[17:52] <micahg> why do we need byobu?
[17:52] <charlie-tca> oh, that ain it then
[17:53] <charlie-tca> byobu makes using a tty easier, if you don't have the gui up
[17:53]  * charlie-tca don't really know the answer, though
[17:53] <cody-somerville> byobu is included in the other desktop seeds too
[17:55] <micahg> Thunderbird increased .7 and Firefox .6 MB
[17:55] <micahg> it's only 77k
[17:56] <cody-somerville> hmm.. I don't think this is going to be as easy as we'd like
[17:56] <charlie-tca> yeah, but lots of those "only" bits add up
[17:57] <charlie-tca> oh-oh
[17:57] <cody-somerville> ah, never mind. language packages aren't a part of the xubuntu meta package
[17:59] <micahg> well, 10.04.3 will probably be harder as we'll probably have a bug jump in Firefox size (3-5MB)
[17:59] <charlie-tca> hm, this is different for me. I never got quite this deep into the image, I guess.
[18:00] <charlie-tca> we won't spin that image. Normally, we only get the first .1 image, then we are done with the LTS
[18:00] <charlie-tca> Since we did not get the .1, I pushed for the .2
[18:00] <micahg> oh, ok, well, it'll probably be Firefox 4, idk if that's worth updating for
[18:00] <micahg> or maybe even 5 :)
[18:00] <cody-somerville> might as well do .3 if we can ;) we can always use the experience
[18:01] <charlie-tca> Okay, I'm willing then
[18:02] <charlie-tca> Pretty soon they will think we are real again, though
[18:03] <charlie-tca> hm, are we ready to respin the image now?
[18:04] <cody-somerville> not yet
[18:04] <charlie-tca> okay
[18:04] <micahg> charlie-tca: isn't that a good thing (being real)?
[18:05] <charlie-tca> sure, if we can do it
[18:06] <charlie-tca> I think it would be great to build us up again
[18:06] <charlie-tca> and it would help mr_pouit too, if they would listen to us once in while, at least ;-)
[18:09] <cody-somerville> bzr branch lp:langpack-o-matic 
[18:09] <cody-somerville> oops
[18:09] <cody-somerville> mischan
[18:15] <cody-somerville> how about droping bn, hi, and ar? That'll free up 7.59 all together.
[18:16] <cody-somerville> (Mb)
[18:16] <micahg> wow, I thought the langpacks were 10MB each :(
[18:17] <cody-somerville> es, pt, de, and fr are all over 10MB
[18:17] <cody-somerville> es and fr are closer to 20MB
[18:18] <cody-somerville> alright, no objections? committing now.
[18:18] <charlie-tca> yes, bn, hi, and ar sounds good
[18:19] <cody-somerville> done
[18:19] <charlie-tca> Thank you very much