[00:15] <DarkwingDuck> rekonq is having a hard time with flash.... am I doing something wrong on my end?
[00:18] <valorie> does flash work in any other browsers, DarkwingDuck?
[00:18] <valorie> I have no flash at all now
[00:18] <valorie> for a few days, since an upgrade
[00:20] <DarkwingDuck> valorie: yup
[00:20] <valorie> yup you have it in FF, etc.?
[00:20] <DarkwingDuck> yup
[00:20] <valorie> k
[00:20] <DarkwingDuck> but i hate ff
[00:21] <valorie> lol
[00:21] <valorie> I even tried Konq, my old standbye
[00:21] <valorie> no flash anywhere
[00:21] <valorie> uninstalled, reinstalled
[00:21] <valorie> no good
[00:22] <c2tarun> is quickly only for gtk applications? Not for Qt?
[00:22] <DarkwingDuck> hmmmm...
[00:34] <nixternal> anyone using gcal or gmail contacts with kmail? if so, HOW? I have followed every tutorial there is and not a single one has worked
[00:35] <nixternal> nevermind. kmail, akonono, and such aren't good.
[00:36] <DarkwingDuck> I've been using gmail contacts with KMail for a wihle.
[00:36] <DarkwingDuck> Well, with kontact.
[00:37] <c2tarun> nixternal: I used evolution once when I was using ubuntu. I think methods are same. This page might help you http://tricksfind.blogspot.com/2010/09/setup-gmail-account-in-evolution.html
[00:41] <nixternal> pfft, you don't even need to do that with kmail. kmail can set it up for you with just your gmail email address. i can't get the akonono stuff working with contacts or calendar. i don't see errors at all, nor do i see my calendar or contacts either
[00:41] <nixternal> tbird is just as shitty too
[00:41] <nixternal> contacts in mutt is easy when using the google terminal scripts
[01:24] <micahg> valorie: DarkwingDuck: bug 716311
[01:24] <micahg> debfx: is there something that needs to be done for qscintilla2?
[01:31] <maco> nixternal: i do that
[01:38] <maco> nixternal: i added the cal & contacts resources through the akonadi interface, not through kontact
[01:39] <maco> my calendar is still successfully showing me my gcal
[01:47] <nixternal> maco: I have done the same, no luck
[01:59] <DarkwingDuck> micahg: the problem with bug 716311 is that Flash works just fine in FF. It only doesn't work in Rekonq.
[01:59] <micahg> DarkwingDuck: ah, then you have a different bug :)
[02:00] <DarkwingDuck> micahg: Aye, I'm looking for a bug to fit it into
[02:00] <nixternal> i think micahg is lost, he told me he hates kubuntu
[02:00] <DarkwingDuck> hehehe
[02:00] <DarkwingDuck> Hey nixternal 
[02:00]  * micahg never said that
[02:00]  * micahg used KDE for many years
[02:00] <nixternal> you told me that one time in band camp
[02:04] <DarkwingDuck> Where is rekonq's plugin folder?
[03:32] <DarkwingDuck> Riddell, ScottK, apachelogger: I have a couple meetings setup with Jono Bacon about the Community and Kubuntu community. So, I'll be updating from there.
[03:33] <valorie> nice!
[10:08] <debfx> micahg: no, I've marked the bug as won't fix
[10:46] <Riddell> ScottK, maco: nudge nudge http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/owncloud :)
[12:03] <debfx> Riddell: is there a description of what packages the kubuntu package set ought to contain?
[12:04] <Riddell> debfx: the kubuntu seeds
[12:04] <Riddell> lp:~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/kubuntu.natty/
[12:04] <Riddell> you can find the exact set that expands to with edit_acl.py from lp:~ubuntu-archive/ubuntu-archive-tools/trunk
[12:05] <debfx> the package list is somewhat weird
[12:05] <debfx> for example it contains libgnomecanvasmm2.6 but not phonon
[12:06] <debfx> but the list is not automatically updated to contain the packages in the kubuntu seed?
[12:07] <Riddell> it is automatically updated, but yes it includes some weirdness, there's usually a good reason for the weirdness but I often can't work it out
[12:07] <Riddell> phonon isn't directly needed and probably some other package set has something that depends on something that depends on phonon so it's not considered a kubuntu exclusive package
[12:08] <Riddell> you can ask cjwatson to add overrides though
[12:09] <Riddell> s/needed/seeded/
[12:09] <kubotu> Riddell: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed"
[12:09] <Riddell> oh wheesht kubotu 
[12:22] <debfx> even kubuntu-debug-installer is not in the package set ^^
[12:26] <Riddell> debfx: well same thing, something in edubuntu will depend on kde bits which depends on that so it's not considered kubuntu only
[12:27] <Riddell> debfx: just e-mail colin and ask for an override
[12:28] <debfx> Riddell: what about packages like attica, shared-desktop-ontologies or libqalculate which are very qt/kde-ish but not strictly kde?
[12:30] <Riddell> shared-desktop-ontologies is used by gnome and xfce, attica and libqalculate would be good to have though
[12:48] <shadeslayer> DarkwingDuck: rekonq doesn't have a plguins folder :)
[12:49] <shadeslayer> DarkwingDuck: put the flash plugin in ~/.mozilla/plugins
[12:49] <shadeslayer> do you have amd64 by any chance?
[12:58] <Riddell> video support removed from kopete :(
[13:05] <shadeslayer> whaaa
[13:05] <shadeslayer> oh yes
[13:05] <shadeslayer> Riddell: just saw your mail to kopete devel
[13:05] <shadeslayer> oh btw .. what do we do about dcmtk?
[13:07] <shadeslayer> oh quite interesting
[13:08] <shadeslayer> setup-packaging-environment set's up a packaging env
[13:08] <shadeslayer> nice
[13:09] <Riddell> shadeslayer: I uploaded dcmtk, now we wait and see if it passed MIR surely?
[13:10] <shadeslayer> uh there was a update
[13:10] <shadeslayer> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/702026
[13:11] <Riddell> shadeslayer: ah, well might be time to stop trying and give up
[13:12] <Riddell> might worth discussing with upstream
[13:13] <shadeslayer> yeah ... altho looking at the package itself i have little hope :(
[13:15] <shadeslayer> wait
[13:15] <Riddell> ...!
[13:15] <shadeslayer> it does build again libjpeg62
[13:16] <shadeslayer> http://paste.kde.org/4806
[13:17] <shadeslayer> http://nokiaplanb.com/about/ << Oh boy
[13:18] <bambee> hi
[13:19] <Riddell> http://nokiaplanc.com/
[13:19] <Riddell> hola bambee 
[13:19] <bambee> :)
[13:20] <shadeslayer> lol
[13:25] <shadeslayer> omg
[13:25] <shadeslayer> im on the uds.ubuntu.com site
[13:27] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: im famous!!!
[13:28] <Riddell> so is the back of apachelogger's head
[13:30] <shadeslayer> yeah :P
[13:32] <ScottK> Riddell: Commented.
[13:34] <bambee> w00t uds website rocks :D
[13:34] <shadeslayer> yeah :D
[13:35] <shadeslayer> Riddell: apachelogger will find a way (excuse) to prove that the back of his head is more famous than me :P
[13:39] <al> nokia - back to the boots
[13:40] <Riddell> al: more realistic than http://nokiaplane.com/
[13:41] <Riddell> bonjour Tonio_ 
[13:41] <al> yea
[13:42] <Riddell> http://nokiaplang.com/  last one is interesting
[13:42] <Tonio_> hey Riddell ! long time no see... how are you ?
[13:42] <Tonio_> Riddell, I'm gonna have a baby
[13:43] <Tonio_> ;)
[13:43] <bambee> another french ?
[13:43] <bambee> nice :)
[13:46] <ScottK> Tonio_: Congratulations.
[13:46] <ScottK> debfx: Do I remember correctly that you had some kdesudo fixes you wanted upstream?  If so, ^^^.
[13:47] <tazz> lol on the website http://uds.ubuntu.com/ is the "<!---" and "—!>"  intentional?
[13:47] <Tonio_> ScottK, thanks ;)
[14:36] <debfx> hi Tonio_
[14:36] <debfx> could you add me to the kdesudo dev team?
[14:36] <debfx> it would be good to get a new release out
[14:36] <Tonio_> hey debfx 
[14:36] <Tonio_> debfx, sure, did you apply for this ?
[14:37] <debfx> apply in what way?
[14:46] <debfx> Tonio_: ^
[14:49] <Tonio_> debfx, subscribe to the project
[14:51] <Tonio_> debfx, could you subscrie to https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-kdesudo
[14:51] <Tonio_> please
[14:51] <Tonio_> ?
[14:51] <debfx> Tonio_: ah yes, I have
[14:51] <Tonio_> debfx, done
[14:52] <Tonio_> you should have access now
[14:52] <debfx> thanks :)
[15:52] <Riddell> new lucid CDs for testing http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/lucid/daily-live/20110215.2/
[16:29] <Riddell> my telephone went for a swim in the river tay last weekend, any advise on a replacement?
[16:40] <Riddell> ari-tczew: hmm, did you have things for sponsored upload or did I imagine that?
[16:44] <ari-tczew> Riddell: 2 syncs are waiting for you :)
[16:45] <Riddell> ari-tczew: for syncs anyone with upload rights can ack it then subscribe ubuntu-archive
[16:45] <tazz> Riddell, n900 ?
[16:45] <Riddell> tazz: hmm, dead platform :(
[16:46] <tazz> Riddell, but the hardware is good, nokia will come out with atleast 1 more maemo device.
[16:46] <tazz> that tells me, atleast one os upgrade.
[16:46] <tazz> but yea true... dead plateform.
[16:47] <tazz> Riddell, or else buy a really cheap phone. And dont care what it is.
[16:47] <ari-tczew> Riddell: I don't have upload rights for main :)
[16:47] <Riddell> that has been my tactic so far, I've never spent more than 15 pounds on a mobile
[16:48] <tazz> Riddell, continue with the tactic... 
[16:48] <tazz> you can afford to send more phones swimming.
[16:53] <shadeslayer> Riddell: Desire S
[16:53] <shadeslayer> something from the new HTC Series
[16:55] <Riddell> shadeslayer: you know for the cost of one of those HTC Desire's I could buy another netbook
[16:55] <Riddell> or two
[16:55] <Riddell> second hand HTC Hero seems about the top of my price limit, £125
[16:55] <shadeslayer> oh
[16:56] <shadeslayer> Riddell: don't they have contracts in Scotland ?
[16:56] <shadeslayer> where you get the most expensive phones for dirt cheap prices
[16:56] <Riddell> contracts cost money
[16:56] <shadeslayer> un branded phones too
[16:56] <shadeslayer> Hero is old tho
[16:56] <shadeslayer> so don't get that
[16:56] <Riddell> I have enough bills already, it's not like I use my mobile phone much, if I want to communicate I have the internet
[16:57] <Riddell> what I'd want from an expensive phone is, MP3 player, maps, WiFi and SIP so I can pretend to have a landline again
[17:01] <ari-tczew> Riddell: so you're not interested in sponsoring sync requests?
[17:01] <shadeslayer> hmm ... 
[17:01] <Riddell> ari-tczew: I recommend you ask the current patch pilot
[17:01] <Riddell> ari-tczew: which today, is me :)
[17:03] <ari-tczew> Riddell: Indeed. Did you ACKed them already?
[17:03] <ari-tczew> I see subscribed ubuntu-archive.
[17:04] <Riddell> ari-tczew: I'll do that as a process the syncs
[17:05] <ari-tczew> Riddell: ah ok
[17:06] <Riddell> s/a/I/
[17:06] <kubotu> Riddell meant: "Iri-tczew: I'll do that as a process the syncs"
[17:06] <Riddell> oh do shut up kubotu 
[17:22] <rbelem> Riddell, ping
[17:45] <bambee> What I need to do when I finished my changes in qt-language-selector (I need feedbacks before propose merging)? 
[18:11] <Riddell> rbelem: hi
[18:12] <rbelem> Riddell, thanks for your comments :-) I'm already working to make the changes
[18:13] <rbelem> Riddell, http://blog.qt.nokia.com/2011/02/15/moving-forward-%E2%80%93-qt-at-mwc/
[18:13] <c2tarun> Riddell: hi Riddell, can you please explain me this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/567420/
[18:14] <rbelem> Riddell, my team at work developed the chicken wranglers game :-D
[18:14] <Riddell> I don't even know what a wrangler is :)
[18:15] <rbelem> Riddell, i think it is another name for farmer, +or- 
[18:15] <rbelem> :-D
[18:17] <apachelogger> re
[18:18] <apachelogger> Riddell: I cought the powerflu in brussels it would seem
[18:19] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: the back of my head always was more famous than you, nothing needs provig there
[18:19] <shadeslayer> <.<
[18:20] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: btw i got that download dialog bit regarding KNS3
[18:20] <shadeslayer> but
[18:20] <shadeslayer> there's is some weird custom logic in there
[18:21] <apachelogger> nothing weird nowhere
[18:21] <apachelogger> it all makes sense
[18:21] <apachelogger> you just have to see the connection :P
[18:21] <shadeslayer> not to me :P
[18:21] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: what is the current patch?
[18:21] <shadeslayer> one sec
[18:21] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/4580/
[18:22] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: i don't get line 39 to 57
[18:22] <shadeslayer> do i need that? 
[18:22] <shadeslayer> s/that/them
[18:22] <apachelogger> I haz lag in my pocket
[18:23] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: yes
[18:23] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: you just have to do it differently
[18:23] <apachelogger> IIRC the KNS button emits a signal once it exec'd the dialog
[18:23] <rbelem> apachelogger, now(from today in my city) i have 5mb internet connection at home, so we can try skype calls :-D
[18:23] <shadeslayer> ah
[18:23] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: but then i'll have to overload the function right
[18:23] <shadeslayer> hmm
[18:23] <apachelogger> or when entires are ready
[18:23] <apachelogger> something like that
[18:23] <apachelogger> to that signal you connect
[18:24] <apachelogger> and run the code from the function
[18:24] <Guest69114> iirc it emits one if the dialog box gets execd
[18:24] <apachelogger> but beware that you must not show the dialog again... ;)
[18:24]  * Guest69114 will have a look
[18:24] <Guest69114> yea
[18:24] <Guest69114> apachelogger: that part i got :)
[18:24] <apachelogger> rbelem: now since I am at home where I have 0.4mb I do not think so, sir ;)
[18:25] <rbelem> :'(
[18:27] <apachelogger> maco, DarkwingDuck: about what HAL is replaced with ... actually it is a combination of udev, upower and udisks
[18:28] <apachelogger> they fragmented the stuffz
[18:28] <Riddell> c2tarun: well it can't install all the build-deps, maybe universe isn't enabled and it needs something from universe
[18:29] <c2tarun> Riddell: yup, one build-depends is not in natty. What to do?
[18:30] <Riddell> c2tarun: well it depends on the package needed, if it's needed that it'll need to be put into natty somehow
[18:32] <c2tarun> Riddell: its needed, because I removed it from build-deps and tried to build the package and it failed.
[18:33] <yofel> c2tarun: what's the missing package in question?
[18:34] <c2tarun> yofel: pbbuttonsd-dev
[18:34] <c2tarun> yofel: here is the control file http://paste.ubuntu.com/567422/
[18:38] <yofel> ah, indeed, we had an older version ages ago, but not that one
[18:38] <yofel> it does exist in debian though
[18:39] <maco> apachelogger: thats just udev getting all modular though isnt it?
[18:39] <Riddell> maco: no, they're unrelated as bits of code
[18:42] <apachelogger> maco: udev never did power management and disk management stuff
[18:42] <DarkwingDuck> apachelogger: thanks.
[18:43] <maco> ok
[18:43] <c2tarun> yofel: ya, micagh on diff channel told me that this package can only be build on apple machine arch. so I am leaving this bug :) thank ou
[18:43] <c2tarun> you*
[18:43] <yofel> indeed, that's only for powerpc CPUs
[19:05] <Riddell> ari-tczew: seen comment on bug 718156 ?
[19:06] <ari-tczew> Riddell: yes
[19:06] <ari-tczew> Riddell: if package doesn't support armel anymore, don't build it on armel
[19:07] <ari-tczew> easy
[19:07] <ari-tczew> but should be conflict with binaries to require remove binaries on armel
[19:08] <Riddell> ari-tczew: as the comment says, it would be nice to have a version on armel still
[19:09] <ari-tczew> Riddell: today I was considering about delay this sync to natty+1
[19:09] <ari-tczew> let maintainer deal with armel in Debian 
[19:13] <ari-tczew> Riddell: what do you think?
[19:15] <Riddell> ari-tczew: yes that would be the easy option
[19:15] <ari-tczew> Riddell: do you mean delay?
[19:16] <Riddell> yes
[19:32] <Riddell> bambee: very creative mis-spelling of my name on bug 719543 :)
[19:33] <Riddell> but great to see progress on that, I'll take a look tonight or tomorrow
[19:35] <Riddell> debfx: do you know why qca-tls is still in Debian?
[19:36] <debfx> Riddell: because qca is in Debian
[19:37] <Riddell> I wonder why they keep that
[19:37] <debfx> though I suspect it will be removed sometime soon: http://bugs.debian.org/604339
[19:42] <Riddell> tazz: followed your advise and got a cheapo phone
[19:42] <tazz> lol nice...
[19:43]  * apachelogger needs to get himself a freeo phone from some sponsor
[19:45] <Riddell> this thing has no buttons on it, I think it was made for someone 10 years younger than me
[19:47] <apachelogger> awww
[19:47] <maco> Riddell: like me?
[19:49] <tazz> Riddell, what did you buy ?
[19:49] <bambee> Riddell: ohhh... Apologies xD
[19:50] <bambee> omg
[19:51] <bambee> Riddell: fixed
[19:52] <debfx> Riddell: the source package sip4-qt3 should probably be removed as well
[19:56] <Riddell> tazz: Alcatel OT-708, cheapest one with MP3 and quad band
[19:56] <Riddell> debfx: ok
[19:57] <Riddell> debfx: done
[19:58] <Riddell> maco: you're not 10 years younger than me!
[19:58] <maco> Riddell: yeahg im just rounding up to make you feel old
[20:18] <apachelogger> Riddell: if you could try to apply http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=phonon-gstreamer.git&a=commit&h=a2aed0f998e45b6c98a9827aeae17120ef86b269 on phonon-backend-gstreamer
[20:19] <blueyed> Are you aware of issues with kmix in Mavericks kde-4.6-ppa? I have noticed several times that kmix was eating one of my cores in the back when shutting down.
[20:20] <apachelogger> blueyed: plasma issue
[20:21] <blueyed> apachelogger: related to maverick only? I am on natty now.
[20:21] <blueyed> just wanted to notify you.
[20:21] <apachelogger> *shrug*
[20:21] <apachelogger> I do not see it on maverick anymore either
[20:21] <apachelogger> it is a rather random problem I suppose
[20:22] <apachelogger> probably config related or something
[20:22] <apachelogger> I only just heared that it was plasma going wild really
[20:22] <blueyed> too bad. should not happen really. and it happened until I upgraded yesterday still.
[20:23] <apachelogger> rdieter: ^ you might also be interested int he patch from above regarding gstreamer
[20:23] <blueyed> good to know, thanks.
[20:23] <blueyed> I hope you're doing well? ツ
[20:24] <Riddell> bambee: some suggestions https://code.launchpad.net/~bambi/language-selector/kcm/+merge/49869
[20:25] <rdieter> apachelogger: thx, I can give it a whirl
[20:26] <bambee> Riddell: awesome, thanks :)
[20:27] <sheytan> Quintasan shadeslayer /me is going to work on the PN kubuntu subpage now
[20:29] <apachelogger> rdieter, Riddell: btw, phonon gstreamer 4.4.5 coming out soonishy (presumably next week)
[20:31] <Riddell> ooh
[20:39] <sheytan> Riddell hey
[20:40] <sheytan> do you know if it is possible to add ppa with one click as you can  install apps via apturl?
[20:40] <yofel> sheytan: got a banner that's more usable for now?
[20:40] <sheytan> yofel not yet
[20:40] <sheytan> work in progress
[20:41] <yofel> sheytan: I don't think so, but adding ppas is as simple as 'sudo add-apt-repository ppa:<owner>/<ppa>'
[20:41] <bambee> Riddell: about polkit dialog => there are two dbus calls on the system bus in two differents methods from the base class (LanguageSelectorBase)
[20:41] <bambee> so it's normal
[20:41] <yofel> software properties should accept ppa: urls too
[20:41] <sheytan> yofel, i do know that. Im asking couse it would be cool to put a button "add this source" to the new website ;)
[20:42] <bambee> about the rests I'll try my best :)
[20:44] <yofel> sheytan: don't know about that I fear
[21:03] <Quintasan> sheytan: Would be nice if you coud auto-join #project-neon and keep the stuff related there :)
[21:04] <sheytan> sure ;)
[21:10] <sheytan> a tip for Kubuntu devs: if there's a KCM in systemsettings for something, then do NOT put the same thing into the Kmenu-system or whatever :)
[21:16] <jjesse> ;hello nigelb
[21:16] <jjesse> doh meant hello nixternal
[21:16] <jjesse> stupid auto complete
[21:18] <nixternal> heh
[22:28] <txwikinger> Has anybody ever used QWebInspector with the python binding? I always get a segmentation fault
[22:31] <Riddell> not I
[22:40] <JontheEchidna> cool: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/UFW+KControl+Module?content=137789
[22:42] <JontheEchidna> from the same guy as QtCurve
[22:51] <markey> Riddell: apachelogger: Flash video is borked with latest Maverick upgrades
[22:51] <markey> both Firefox and Chromium claim that you need a newer version of Flash
[22:51] <markey> used to work fine
[22:52] <Riddell> markey: yeah, some weirdness in packagekit I can't work out :(
[22:52] <Riddell> sudo apt-get install --reinstall flashplugin-installer   should fix it
[22:52] <markey> cool, lemme try that
[22:53] <debfx> JontheEchidna: nice, have you already tested it?
[22:54] <markey> Riddell: awesome, that fixed it :)
[22:54] <markey> thanks a bunch
[23:11] <JontheEchidna> debfx: nope, just saw that in the dot.kde.org kde-apps feed
[23:29] <rbelem> Riddell, ping
[23:32] <rbelem> Riddell, I updated the patch http://reviewboard.kde.org/r/6308/