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| bstarek | Hello guys, i was wondering what happened to the dropdown menus like "accessories, networking,system..." and so on??? | 01:24 |
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| bstarek | wasnt the old ubuntu more organized? | 01:24 |
| bstarek | anybody here??? | 01:31 |
| penguin42 | sorry, I just don't know a good answer | 01:33 |
| bstarek | penguin42, so there is none? the menu disappeared? | 01:35 |
| penguin42 | bstarek: Looks like it, but I've gone to the Classic desktop | 01:35 |
| bstarek | penguin42, u like it better?? | 01:35 |
| penguin42 | well I'm used to it and it works - so hohum | 01:35 |
| bstarek | penguin42, its still in dev anyway right? | 01:35 |
| penguin42 | yeh | 01:36 |
| bstarek | penguin42, I hope they include it!! | 01:36 |
| bstarek | anyway thanks for answerinf | 01:36 |
| bstarek | g | 01:36 |
| bstarek | exit | 01:37 |
| bstarek | oops | 01:37 |
| bp0 | in the ubuntu alpha installer the location thing is crazy messed up | 02:07 |
| bp0 | I don't know where its getting the locations from, but its really low quality results | 02:08 |
| strycore | hey there | 04:03 |
| strycore | would there be anyone with a natty alpha-1 iso and willing to share it via http/ftp/torrent/whatever ? | 04:04 |
| gpc | strycore: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/natty/alpha1#Download%20the%20Alpha%201 | 04:07 |
| strycore | gpc, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/natty/alpha-1/ returns a 404 error :( alpha-1 got erased from the servers and replaced with alpha-2 | 04:08 |
| strycore | and alpha-2 is incompatible with nvidia drivers | 04:09 |
| rww | it's not on torrent.ubuntu.com either, I think | 04:09 |
| strycore | nope, only alpha-2 | 04:10 |
| strycore | there was one on ThePirateBay but it got no seeds | 04:11 |
| strycore | guess I'm doomed to wait for nvidia to release their drivers then ... | 04:12 |
| bjsnider | "doomed" might be a bit of an inappropriate word to use in this context | 04:13 |
| bjsnider | your computer will not explode and kill you if you do not get natty on it right this minute | 04:13 |
| rww | It may explode if you do get natty on it. | 04:14 |
| rww | I think we used to have a factoid to that effect during an earlier cycle... ;) | 04:14 |
| strycore | i know, i know, but i'm not used running on stable releases *that* long | 04:14 |
| Adys | apparently nvidia uploaded 270.26 a few hours ago. any idea if it works with most recent xorg stack? | 05:50 |
| Adys | ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/270.26/ | 05:50 |
| Adys | theres no changelog | 05:51 |
| Zuhaitz | Hi. | 10:53 |
| Zuhaitz | I am experiencing problems with 11.04 | 10:54 |
| Zuhaitz | Unity crashes many times. | 10:54 |
| susundberg | Well you have to provide some more information more than that | 11:00 |
| Zuhaitz | I cant, I dont know the reason. | 11:02 |
| Zuhaitz | The WM crashes and then, I have to restart GDM in a TTY | 11:03 |
| susundberg | WM crashes while doing what? Is it clear pattern? | 11:03 |
| susundberg | Is there something on the logs? | 11:03 |
| Zuhaitz | What log? | 11:04 |
| Zuhaitz | /var/log/what? :) | 11:04 |
| susundberg | $HOME/.xsession-errors and /var/log/Xorg | 11:04 |
| susundberg | and i does unity have one of its own? | 11:04 |
| susundberg | See also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity | 11:05 |
| susundberg | (thats all i can say, sorry -- i am not familiar with unity) | 11:06 |
| Zuhaitz | (nautilus:3271): GConf-CRITICAL **: gconf_value_free: assertion `value != NULL' failed | 11:09 |
| Zuhaitz | ** (nm-applet:3280): DEBUG: foo_client_state_changed_cb | 11:09 |
| Zuhaitz | ** (gnome-screensaver:3365): WARNING **: screensaver already running in this session | 11:09 |
| Zuhaitz | ** (nm-applet:3280): DEBUG: foo_client_state_changed_cb | 11:09 |
| Zuhaitz | system-config-printer-applet: failed to start PrinterDriversInstaller service: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied: Connection ":1.155" is not allowed to own the service "com.redhat.PrinterDriversInstaller" due to security policies in the configuration file | 11:09 |
| Zuhaitz | Dont see more errors | 11:09 |
| strycore | For those wondering about the new nvidia driver that was released today (270.26), tried it and no it's not compatible with the new Xorg stack | 11:20 |
| Zuhaitz | When Ubuntu will have a 2.0 OpenGl support? | 11:25 |
| susundberg | strycore: good to know! | 11:29 |
| strycore | maybe a second opinion would be good, but I tried all the ignoreABI stuff, and no luck for me | 11:30 |
| zlatan | hi to all...I installed 3D experimental driver and now I only get screen with wallpaper and nothing else...I have also Debian on PC...can I fix this problem with Debian and mounting on Ubuntu partition | 11:49 |
| zlatan | any suggestion? | 11:51 |
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| Raylton | hi... someone know if unite 2d is in repository ubuntu or is make pre installed ? | 12:25 |
| Djlbert | Does anyone know if it is possible to calibrate joysticks in ubuntu because jscalibrator was removed from the repo | 12:25 |
| Raylton | hi | 12:29 |
| Raylton | someone cam help me | 12:29 |
| Raylton | ? | 12:29 |
| Raylton | *can | 12:30 |
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| MTecknology | I have no idea what happened... but it seems that when I boot my server now I get as far as 'Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom ... done.' and it just hangs | 13:18 |
| MTecknology | It doesn't even go further when trying to use the recovery option.... any ideas why?... | 13:18 |
| jpds | You're runnning a server with Natty? | 13:18 |
| MTecknology | jpds: of course; that's what I'm running on all of my servers :D | 13:20 |
| MTecknology | and laptops | 13:20 |
| Pici | There were some plymouth updates recently. | 13:20 |
| MTecknology | I didn't even update the system in the last 2 weeks | 13:20 |
| MTecknology | hm... an older kernel let me finally get into recovery mode; and it seems there's a kernel update.. | 13:21 |
| MTecknology | alrighty... getting updates seems to have made it work again- thanks :) | 13:26 |
| MTecknology | jpds: so.. why wouldn't you run natty on a server yet? | 13:26 |
| MTecknology | I've been doing it for about 3 months now | 13:26 |
| jpds | MTecknology: I like sanity and stablity. | 13:26 |
| MTecknology | how are you supposed to be a good admin with your sanity intact? | 13:27 |
| jpds | I'll find a way. | 13:28 |
| penguin42 | for a server I'd stick to an LTS unless it was just a home machine | 13:29 |
| MTecknology | nothing I run is production for a company; just my websites, irc, some nginx websites, a bot for a few nginx, ubuntu, and other channels | 13:30 |
| MTecknology | nothing that anyone will cry over except me if gone | 13:30 |
| espen77_ | hmm....having problems getting a2 or daily iso, the file i get is from 22.dec.2010 for both a2 link and daily, also md5 dont match... | 14:01 |
| espen77_ | anyone know a reason why "wget http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/natty-desktop-i386.iso" would give an old file? | 14:03 |
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| patdk-wk | espen77_, you put yourself behind a bad caching server? | 14:05 |
| patdk-wk | cause it's not, it's current | 14:05 |
| espen77_ | does the wrate fw of china count? am currently in bijing. | 14:06 |
| espen77_ | *grate | 14:06 |
| patdk-wk | dunno | 14:07 |
| Pici | It might. | 14:07 |
| espen77_ | guess i have to wait until i get back to eu to get a fresh iso | 14:08 |
| penguin42 | espen77_: In that case it might be interesting to take a download there and when you're back compare the binary | 14:08 |
| espen77_ | is it possible to get the md5sum file from 22 december 2010? | 14:10 |
| penguin42 | doubt it | 14:10 |
| espen77_ | aww...to bad....that is the date stamp on the iso | 14:11 |
| penguin42 | hmph, pidgin crashed | 14:18 |
| * patdk-wk installs vulture to clean it up | 14:20 | |
| penguin42 | hehe | 14:21 |
| ActionParsnip | !info vulture > ActionParsnip | 14:24 |
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| BluesKaj | do we nvidia users still have to use the nouveau driver if we upgrade to natty ? | 16:12 |
| penguin42 | that's what I'm hearing from others; I'm an ATI guy | 16:13 |
| BluesKaj | penguin42, I was using natty , but the xorg files that got removed and upgrded broke my system so I had revert back to maverick ...just thought I'd check in to see if anything has changed.. Obviously not :( | 16:15 |
| Daekdroom | Where does network-manager store its log or messages or whatever? | 16:17 |
| genii-around | Yay, I'm on 11.04 with nvidia driver :) | 17:02 |
| Daekdroom | genii-around, how'd you do that? D: | 17:04 |
| yofel | hm, the X folks said that 270.26 doesn't work with natty either though.. | 17:05 |
| genii-around | Daekdroom: I used the 270.18 driver off of the nvidia site ( 64 bit) | 17:05 |
| yofel | then you're lucky | 17:06 |
| gpc | that is cheating | 17:06 |
| yofel | as that doesn't work here | 17:06 |
| * gpc takes genii-around's coffee privs away | 17:06 | |
| genii-around | gpc: Hah! | 17:07 |
| genii-around | I did have a helluva time getting it installed. I had to install nvidia-current which got nouveau out but it also removed important suff like ubuntu-desktop kubuntu-desktop and so on. Then I installed the driver, rebooted to cli and installed ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop again | 17:09 |
| nemo | genii-around: oh hey... | 17:12 |
| nemo | genii-around: you're using nouveau? | 17:12 |
| genii-around | nemo: Not right now. I was before | 17:12 |
| nemo | ah. darn. | 17:12 |
| yofel | I use nouveau | 17:12 |
| nemo | yofel: mind running a test for me? | 17:12 |
| yofel | sure, what kind? | 17:13 |
| nemo | yofel: basically, the Firefox guys are trying to decide what Linux drivers won't crash when running certain opengl operations | 17:13 |
| nemo | yofel: Mesa in Maverick crashes on intel cards, doesn't in Natty | 17:13 |
| nemo | so they are determining versions and such | 17:13 |
| yofel | hard to say, I use firefox 4 daily find here on my desktop | 17:13 |
| nemo | yofel: you using a nightly build or a beta? | 17:13 |
| yofel | the mozilla PPA daily builds | 17:14 |
| nemo | hmmm | 17:14 |
| nemo | wonder how close that is. | 17:14 |
| nemo | eh. probably close enough | 17:14 |
| yofel | 4.0~b12~hg20110215r62541+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1 | 17:14 |
| yofel | is what I use | 17:14 |
| nemo | yofel: do you mind running MOZ_GLX_IGNORE_BLACKLIST=1 firefox | 17:14 |
| nemo | oh | 17:14 |
| yofel | 4.0~b11+build3+nobinonly-0ubuntu2 | 17:14 |
| yofel | is what natty has | 17:14 |
| nemo | https://cvs.khronos.org/svn/repos/registry/trunk/public/webgl/sdk/tests/webgl-conformance-tests.html | 17:15 |
| nemo | then run that | 17:15 |
| nemo | and tell me if it crashes? | 17:15 |
| yofel | just crashed when opening the site | 17:16 |
| zlatan | hi...my natty can't connect to the internet...it's trying and trying but no result...once it showed me that my ath5 calibration went down or something like that?? How to make this work | 17:16 |
| nemo | you're serious | 17:16 |
| nemo | yofel: uh.... | 17:16 |
| nemo | yofel: it shouldn't even load webgl. | 17:16 |
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| nemo | until you click the start button | 17:16 |
| * yofel tries again | 17:16 | |
| nemo | yofel: was that the only page you had open? | 17:17 |
| nemo | I guess it must have been if you had just restarted with ignore blacklist set | 17:18 |
| yofel | no, and I had errors in terminal, so let me try this differently | 17:18 |
| yofel | ###!!! ABORT: X_GLXDestroyPixmap: BadLength (poly request too large or internal Xlib length error); 4 requests ago: file /build/buildd/firefox-4.0-4.0~b12~hg20110215r62541+nobinonly/build-tree/mozilla/toolkit/xre/nsX11ErrorHandler.cpp, line 190 | 17:18 |
| yofel | specifically | 17:18 |
| nemo | yofel: basically, I'm a big fan of webgl, and I want as many linux drivers as possible to be whitelisted | 17:18 |
| Daekdroom | yofel, I think that BadLenght issue was fixed in some recent package update. | 17:19 |
| om26er | natty daily ISO is not respecting any icon theme for the last few days, it defaults to gnome-icon-theme which package should be the bug in? | 17:19 |
| nemo | yofel: might ask you to rerun against a firefox nightly build off of ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/latest-trunk/ | 17:20 |
| yofel | Daekdroom: ah, nemo: it doesn't crash when opening the page without your setting though | 17:20 |
| nemo | if Daekdroom is right | 17:20 |
| Daekdroom | It's not a firefox issue, tho | 17:20 |
| yofel | I do have all updates installed | 17:21 |
| yofel | nemo: nope, if I set your variable, then firefox-4.0 crashes as soon as it opens the page | 17:21 |
| Daekdroom | yofel, http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/natty/+source/mesa/7.10-1ubuntu2 | 17:21 |
| nemo | yofel: well. that's a shame | 17:22 |
| yofel | Installed: 7.10-1ubuntu2 | 17:22 |
| nemo | yofel: looks like right now at least, fglrx is safe (at least for my card, although fglrx still has crap Xrender support) and nvidia proprietary is | 17:22 |
| nemo | and intel is fine if using later versions of mesa | 17:22 |
| nemo | yofel: so looks like they might do a version check on that one in the blacklist | 17:22 |
| nemo | but nouveau apparently is fail | 17:23 |
| nemo | yofel: mind terribly trying a nightly? | 17:23 |
| nemo | see if it still crashes? | 17:23 |
| Daekdroom | yofel, what about xorg-server? | 17:23 |
| yofel | let me first restart X, maybe that will help | 17:23 |
| nemo | yofel: wonder if glxgears would crash :) | 17:23 |
| nemo | or hedgewars or some other opengl game | 17:24 |
| yofel | 1:7.6~3ubuntu4 | 17:24 |
| Daekdroom | Wow. It still uses that version scheme? | 17:24 |
| Daekdroom | Because latest in NattyChanges says 2:1.9.99.901+git20110131.be3be758-0ubuntu4 | 17:25 |
| yofel | *that* is xserver-xorg-core | 17:25 |
| zlatan | any suggestion on my problem? | 17:25 |
| nemo | zlatan: *shrug* - anything in dmesg? | 17:26 |
| nemo | zlatan: does ifconfig -a show the device? | 17:26 |
| nemo | what *is* the device anyway? | 17:26 |
| zlatan | atheros wireless | 17:26 |
| zlatan | nemo, it connected when I installed it for few times for few minutes | 17:27 |
| zlatan | now it does not even do that | 17:27 |
| Daekdroom | zlatan, was there any update since? | 17:27 |
| yofel | ok, X restart didn't help, now let's see what your nightly does, I would be suprised if the outcome would be different though.. | 17:28 |
| zlatan | Daekdroom, I installed it today and updated kernel to 2.6.38-3...nothing else | 17:28 |
| Daekdroom | yofel, ah, the bug report says those fixes didn't actually fix it =P | 17:28 |
| yofel | ah :S | 17:28 |
| Daekdroom | I'm pretty sure it is indeed #714280 | 17:28 |
| Daekdroom | (which does not have anything to do with clutter at all, apparently) | 17:29 |
| yofel | nemo: as I thought, the nightly crashes too | 17:33 |
| Spirits-Sight | Does anyone know if the Nvida issue has been resolved? | 17:34 |
| yofel | still no working driver | 17:35 |
| Daekdroom | Interesting. | 17:35 |
| Daekdroom | I'm using xorg-edgers and my firefox didn't crash when running the WebGL tests | 17:36 |
| Daekdroom | That means the fix is somewhere upstream already. | 17:36 |
| nemo | yofel: without even pressing the start button for the test | 17:37 |
| yofel | I never got the time to do that | 17:37 |
| nemo | yofel: do you mind terribly opening, say, about:blank instead | 17:38 |
| nemo | then going to a simple webgl test page? | 17:38 |
| nemo | yofel: https://cvs.khronos.org/svn/repos/registry/trunk/public/webgl/sdk/demos/google/shiny-teapot/index.html for example | 17:39 |
| yofel | about:blank open | 17:39 |
| Spirits-Sight | I want to put back 11.04 alpha 2 however I am using a NVida card, is there a way I can get it installed and not have problem booting into it with gettings like a checker screen with Lots of different sq? I really really like it it was very stable intill right before release was made when it came display how do I install the edger stuff before doing upgrade? | 17:41 |
| yofel | nemo: that only gives me http://yofel.dyndns.org/pics/ext/ffx_teapot.png | 17:42 |
| nemo | yofel: but it doesn't crash... | 17:45 |
| nemo | yofel: huh. but the webgl did not load | 17:45 |
| nemo | yofel: and you had MOZ_GLX_IGNORE_BLACKLIST=1 ? | 17:45 |
| yofel | yes | 17:46 |
| yofel | in the terminal I get "failed to create drawable" | 17:46 |
| yofel | if I click on the original demo link I get "This page requires the O3D plugin to be installed." | 17:47 |
| nemo | heh | 17:47 |
| nemo | O3D is what webgl is trying to avoid | 17:47 |
| nemo | kinda hard to do fun HTML5 in a plugin | 17:47 |
| nemo | hrm | 17:48 |
| nemo | yofel: oh wait. that one doesn't work for me either :D | 17:48 |
| nemo | might be out of date | 17:48 |
| nemo | (shader validation or something) | 17:48 |
| * nemo looks for a more recent one | 17:48 | |
| yofel | ^^ | 17:49 |
| nemo | oh wait | 17:49 |
| nemo | n/m | 17:49 |
| nemo | it does work for me | 17:49 |
| nemo | I'd just forgotten to start with MOZ_GLX_IGNORE_BLACKLIST=1 | 17:50 |
| nemo | fglrx still isn't whitelisted :( | 17:50 |
| nemo | yofel: does nouveau actually properly support GLES2?? | 17:50 |
| nemo | oh well. looks like blacklist might be justified in your case :( | 17:50 |
| yofel | Spirits-Sight: my nvidia pc's work fine with nouveau, well, almost | 17:50 |
| yofel | nemo: that I don't know I fear | 17:50 |
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| nemo | yofel: does stuff like glxgears work ok? | 17:58 |
| yofel | glxgears works fine | 17:59 |
| nemo | http://learningwebgl.com/cookbook/index.php/WebGL:_Frequently_Asked_Questions#What_about_security.3F | 17:59 |
| nemo | bleah | 17:59 |
| nemo | although, that implies it does work | 18:00 |
| nemo | just doesn't work *well* | 18:00 |
| nemo | yofel: oh. here's a simpler one :D http://www.doesmybrowsersupportwebgl.com/ | 18:00 |
| yofel | crash | 18:01 |
| * yofel blames mesa | 18:01 | |
| nemo | nice | 18:01 |
| nemo | yofel: but you're on natty | 18:01 |
| yofel | bug 714280 was about natty I think | 18:01 |
| nemo | yofel: anyway. the webgl guy at firefox would *love* it if you could get some proper debug info | 18:01 |
| nemo | so he could file a mesa bug | 18:01 |
| nemo | yofel: would involve you doing a firefox build though... | 18:02 |
| yofel | meh, ubottu's gone too :S | 18:02 |
| nemo | I'd be happy to walk you through what he asked me to do | 18:02 |
| om26er | did anyone try a recent natty ISO and saw broken icons? | 18:02 |
| yofel | nemo: as I'm not the only one that get's this error in natty, maybe you should wait until it's fixed first | 18:04 |
| nemo | yofel: so there's a proper upstream bug already? | 18:05 |
| StaRetji | Folks, what would be the lowest kernel to work with Natty Narwhal ? | 18:05 |
| nemo | yofel: did you see how simple the doesmybrowsersupportwebgl.com page is? :) | 18:06 |
| nemo | pet peeve. people who use innerHTML for text strings. | 18:07 |
| StaRetji | I have to downgrade the kernel because of dahdi and fxs driver which doesn't work properly with latest kernels | 18:07 |
| yofel | nemo: I meant https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/clutter-1.0/+bug/714280 | 18:07 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 714280 in mesa (Ubuntu) "The error was 'BadLength (poly request too large or internal Xlib length erro'." [High,Fix released] | 18:07 |
| yofel | no.. not fixed | 18:07 |
| StaRetji | I now that kernel 2.6.31 works well, so will this kernel work with natty? | 18:07 |
| StaRetji | now=know* | 18:07 |
| ikonia | StaRetji: no | 18:08 |
| StaRetji | what would be lowest kernel? | 18:08 |
| StaRetji | thx, ikonia | 18:08 |
| yofel | nemo: yes, the page seems very simple, and if I don't ignore the blacklist I get a *big* Nay ;) | 18:09 |
| ikonia | StaRetji: the one that ships with natty | 18:09 |
| ikonia | StaRetji: that would be the lowest | 18:09 |
| nemo | yofel: well. here's hoping that the mesa bug gets fixed soon | 18:09 |
| nemo | yofel: so that FF4 final can support nouveau/mesa in Natty | 18:10 |
| StaRetji | hm, I've downgraded to 2.6.36 so if that's the lowest I don't have other option but to go and get drunk lol | 18:12 |
| ikonia | StaRetji: why do you not use the kernel natty provides | 18:12 |
| nemo | wheee. my natty laptop appears to have hung on suspend | 18:12 |
| nemo | again | 18:12 |
| StaRetji | ikonia: because of custom fxs drivers are not working properly with latest kernels | 18:15 |
| ikonia | StaRetji: ok, so log a bug for it rather than break your whole machine with a kernel change | 18:15 |
| StaRetji | project owner just told me it works well with 2.6.36 | 18:15 |
| StaRetji | sorry, 2.6.31 | 18:16 |
| StaRetji | ikonia: he can't do it, he is aware of the bug | 18:16 |
| yofel | that is a bit very old compared to 2.6.38.. | 18:16 |
| nemo | :( doesn't even respond to magic sysrq. bleah | 18:16 |
| StaRetji | ikonia: anyway, thx for the info, I'm giving up | 18:16 |
| * nemo sighs and powers it off | 18:17 | |
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| penguin42 | bah | 20:08 |
| guntbert | ? | 20:08 |
| penguin42 | went out for a few hours and my desktop machine seems to have decided to go to power saving or something and then oopsed when I came back | 20:08 |
| guntbert | I feel with you ... for a few days I have exactly that problem on an erstwhile stable 10.10 (after tasksel desaster) | 20:11 |
| blueyed | Is "aptitude safe-upgrade" running havoc for you, too? Like "offen: 337699; geschlossen: 115455; zurückgestellt: 68; Konflikte: 94" ? | 20:16 |
| guntbert | blueyed: I didn't try | 20:24 |
| yofel | blueyed: that's a lot, but no, it does give me a reasonable solution for my held packages | 20:25 |
| yofel | what's pending to be updated? | 20:25 |
| blueyed | yofel: thanks for your interest! ツ - it aborted: http://paste.ubuntu.com/567457/ | 20:30 |
| blueyed | looks like an infinite loop. | 20:30 |
| yofel | hm, looks like it.. | 20:37 |
| blueyed | yofel: do you have an upgraded system? | 20:38 |
| yofel | yes, a few things are held back, but safe-upgrade simply skips those | 20:39 |
| yofel | I did see safe-upgrade running out of ideas if the list of things to upgrade is huge | 20:39 |
| blueyed | I see. My safe-upgrade crashes though apparently. Too bad. | 20:40 |
| blueyed | Can you pastebin a list of your held back things? | 20:40 |
| blueyed | just like what s-u would skip? | 20:40 |
| yofel | here it's openarena currently, on another system it was ubuntone-client-tools | 20:46 |
| yofel | just run aptitude interactively and check what you have under Upgradable Packages | 20:46 |
| penguin42 | hmph, another pidgin crash | 20:57 |
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| BUGabundo | anyone else having probs with freenode SSL? | 21:29 |
| guntbert | BUGabundo: plenty of reports in #freenode atm | 21:30 |
| guntbert | there is a ddos running | 21:30 |
| guntbert | (it seems) | 21:30 |
| BUGabundo | (2011-02-15 21:30:46) marienz: at least one of our servers currently has ssl issues | 21:31 |
| BUGabundo | (2011-02-15 21:31:15) marienz: I currently recommend explicitly picking a working server (just pick at random from http://freenode.net/irc_servers.shtml until you hit one that works, most of them still do) | 21:31 |
| BUGabundo | evening | 21:43 |
| blueyed | BUGabundo: very good evening to you! | 21:44 |
| charlie-tca | BUGabundo: Hello | 22:07 |
| charlie-tca | appears to be a DDos attack | 22:07 |
| penguin42 | charlie-tca: Freenode connectivity? | 22:08 |
| BUGabundo | hi | 22:09 |
| charlie-tca | [Global Notice] Hi everyone. You will have possibly noticed some instability on the network earlier this evening. The network is under a sustained DDoS and so lag and possible further splits are to be expected. We apologise for the inconvenience - our fantastic sponsorship and infra teams are working to minimise the further impact. Have a nice evening! | 22:09 |
| BUGabundo | anyone looking at this? | 22:09 |
| BUGabundo | http://www.webupd8.org/2011/02/never-miss-notifyosd-notification-with.html | 22:09 |
| charlie-tca | Isn't that freenode? | 22:09 |
| penguin42 | charlie-tca: Oh didn't see the notice; but I've had a few disconnects | 22:10 |
| charlie-tca | I only saw it because it blocked some stuff I was trying to use when the notification bubble came up | 22:11 |
| charlie-tca | well, didn't mean to make him go away :-( | 22:12 |
| penguin42 | hmph | 22:13 |
| penguin42 | pidgin is crashing a lot on natty to me today - I hope it's just a DDoS and nothing nastier | 22:13 |
| BUGabundo | penguin42: got a freeze too | 22:15 |
| BUGabundo | can't get Recent Notifications to start :( | 22:20 |
| penguin42 | oh great, at least one of these pidgin backtraces has libdbusmenu-gtk in it - sigh | 22:20 |
| penguin42 | don't even use the damn thing | 22:20 |
| jadams | any idea when nvidia will be unbroken on natty for proprietary drivers? | 22:20 |
| penguin42 | jadams: I suspect that's down to Nvidia | 22:21 |
| jadams | alternatively, any info on how to downgrade my X 'safely' so i can use the driver in natty? | 22:21 |
| penguin42 | you can't | 22:21 |
| bjsnider | jadams, nvidia released a new blob today that is still not compatible with the new x-server | 22:21 |
| bjsnider | quite a bizarre series of events | 22:21 |
| penguin42 | bjsnider: Might have been compatible with last weeks? | 22:22 |
| bjsnider | no | 22:22 |
| bjsnider | they based it on the same incomplete x-server as the .18 blob | 22:22 |
| jadams | bjsnider, yeah, i just saw a post saying the latest beta still didn't work | 22:22 |
| bjsnider | doesn't make sense unless it's a mistake | 22:23 |
| penguin42 | bjsnider: Maybe its a fix for something other than Ubuntu? | 22:23 |
| bjsnider | there's hardly any change worth noting | 22:24 |
| bjsnider | no idea why they bothered to release it at all | 22:24 |
| rmcbride | Sure you can downgrade it safely | 22:56 |
| rmcbride | it's not fun | 22:57 |
| rmcbride | there was a procedure on the forums taht I used. ... might have the link here one sec | 22:57 |
| Daekdroom | I think it'd be easier to install alpha2, install nvidia-current and then let all the xorg packages be held back | 22:58 |
| rmcbride | http://www1.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10457052 | 22:59 |
| rmcbride | well yea holding back the packages is part of it | 22:59 |
| rmcbride | but it really didnt take very long (I edited teh script there to not download servers that I dont plan to use | 22:59 |
| Daekdroom | and AMD has just released 11.2 | 22:59 |
| MTecknology | root@panther:/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages# synaptic | 23:00 |
| MTecknology | No protocol specified | 23:00 |
| MTecknology | (synaptic:10210): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0.0 | 23:00 |
| MTecknology | fun.... | 23:00 |
| MTecknology | and sorry for the paste; meant for one line | 23:00 |
| rmcbride | in my case I couldn't use nouveau is it didn't recognize my external display at all. my options were downgrade xorg or to run windows on my main laptop | 23:00 |
| rmcbride | could have reinstalled from alpha 2, but the downgrade took less time for that machine | 23:01 |
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