[07:39] <dholbach> good morning!
[07:47]  * jussi giggles at skaet's spelling: 2011-02-11 Ubuntu Release Meating Minutes
[07:58] <vish> jussi: ha! yea.. it got me confused about the spelling for a sec ;)
[08:00] <kim0> Morning
[08:01] <jussi> morning kim0, dholbach
[08:01] <kim0> jussi: hey there
[08:01] <dholbach> hey jussi
[08:34] <dholbach> hola dpm
[08:34] <dpm> hey dholbach
[08:36] <dpm> I hate car repairs
[08:36] <dpm> I just came from the car repair shop, where I had to wait for an hour
[08:36] <dpm> just to leave the car there
[08:36] <dholbach> :-/
[08:36]  * dholbach hugs dpm
[08:37]  * dpm hugs dholbach :)
[08:37] <dpm> nevertheless,
[08:37] <dpm> good morning everyone!!!
[08:39] <kim0> dpm: good morning :)
[08:39]  * kim0 hates car repairs too
[08:39] <dpm> heya kim0 :)
[08:42] <nigelb> dpm: lesson learned -> use bikes :p
[08:43] <dpm> nigelb, I do use the bike and metro in the city, but when I'm driving ~500km away for the weekend, I prefer to arrive there in the same day :)
[08:50] <nigelb> dpm: haha
[08:50] <nigelb> dpm: :)
[08:50] <dpm> ;)
[10:22] <huats> morning
[10:33] <czajkowski> once again asia/oceana board couldn't meet without having a member fro another board to fill a 4th place. No sign of their members coming to meetings, is rather a poor sign
[10:49] <popey> :(
[10:52] <czajkowski> if their members can't come how do they expect people to want to sign up to their meetings to become Ubuntu members
[10:53] <nigelb> Its blocked at CC I think.  There was a renewed call for nominations.
[10:54] <nigelb> The nominations end on 25th I think
[10:54] <nigelb> So by March there should be new members on the board
[10:56]  * nigelb looks at popey for confirmation
[10:59] <head_victim> Is an IRC meeting essential or could something like that move to a moderated but still public mailing list?
[10:59] <czajkowski> head_victim: much longer and drawn out
[10:59] <czajkowski> head_victim: how do you decide when to vote
[10:59] <czajkowski> mails can get lost among other mails
[11:00] <head_victim> czajkowski: ah fair enough, I figured if we just put ourselves up on the wiki for a vote and the board members just review our wiki applications and +1, 0 or -1.
[11:00] <czajkowski> head_victim: would be easier to create a bug makr it private and then public
[11:00] <head_victim> But yeah, I haven't seen it working but just trying to see it from another angle (as a prospective member as well)
[11:00] <czajkowski> head_victim: the issue is if it's done on irc, you can ask questions based on comments mate
[11:01] <czajkowski> *made so a bit of interaction
[11:01] <head_victim> That sounds better.
[11:01] <czajkowski> aye so there is a method to the madness/
[11:02] <czajkowski> just be nice of this board could meet/work as it's frustraing
[11:02] <head_victim> I've just found arbitrary times can be a pain (I'm in AU and in summer we have 5 timezones just in our one country)
[11:02] <czajkowski> head_victim: right tz are a pain in the ass
[11:02] <czajkowski> but if you've only to turn up once... I think one can make an exception
[11:03] <head_victim> Yeah, just trying to brainstorm ideas
[11:03] <czajkowski> yup
[11:03] <czajkowski> ;)
[11:04] <head_victim> That and I've seen how one or two people turn up and get hassled and feel for them
[11:05] <czajkowski> what do you mean hassled?
[11:10] <head_victim> Well hassled probably is too strong a word but when quorum isn't reached obviously some people aren't happy
[11:11] <czajkowski> yup that is annoying alright.
[11:21] <head_victim> czajkowski: if you want a wiki error bug I reported bug 701495 which AlanBell confirmed and got marked a dupe of bug 668530
[11:21] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 701495 in ubuntu-website "wiki.ubuntu.com 500 internal server error (dup-of: 668530)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/701495
[11:21] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 668530 in ubuntu-website "Wiki - 500 Internal Server Error" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/668530
[11:23] <czajkowski> head_victim: you can talk in -meeting too :)
[11:23] <czajkowski> head_victim: anyone can talk during the CC meeting
[11:23] <head_victim> AH wasn't sure on policy/proceedure so just used here sorry.
[11:23] <czajkowski> head_victim: don't be sorry at least you know now.
[11:23] <head_victim> Cheers
[11:24] <czajkowski> head_victim: popey and dholbach are on the CC I'm not. I'm just awake and reading the channel atm
[11:24] <dholbach> czajkowski, thanks a lot for that
[11:24] <head_victim> I like to lurk in -meeting, nice to see what others are up to
[11:24] <czajkowski> dholbach: np.
[11:24] <head_victim> And wikis are where I do most of my contributing so I know the 500 error pain
[11:24] <czajkowski> head_victim: yup good idea, just know you can talk in there as well, just careful which meeting as some of the platform ones are very organised and drill like
[11:25] <head_victim> Yeah, most of the time it's just scrollback, I try not to interfere too much but I actually had something useful for a change.
[11:42] <duanedesign> morning all
[11:43] <nigelb> hey duanedesign
[11:49] <duanedesign> hello nigelb
[12:58] <mhall119> morning
[12:59] <Pendulum> hiya mhall119
[12:59] <mhall119> hi Pendulum
[13:12] <duanedesign> o/
[14:37] <JFo> cjohnston, \o/
[14:37] <JFo> :)
[14:41] <cjohnston> hey JFo
[14:44] <JFo> hey buddy
[14:45] <cjohnston> how goes?
[14:45] <cjohnston> Get to see you tonight it sounds like
[14:45] <JFo> yep, I'll be there
[14:45] <JFo> it's not bad. I just keep getting mired in bugs
[14:46] <cjohnston> Your the man... so thats why you get all the bugs
[14:47] <JFo> yeah right :)
[14:47] <jcastro> cjohnston: yo
[14:47] <jcastro> cjohnston: did you get a review on that form fix?
[14:48] <cjohnston> jcastro: we need info about the DB backend
[14:48] <jcastro> ok
[14:48] <cjohnston> trying to find Daviey
[14:48] <jcastro> Daviey: ping
[14:49] <cjohnston> jcastro: if we get the current trunk pushed live, then the form will go away, and then we will have time to work on the 3000 char
[14:50] <jcastro> well
[14:50] <jcastro> if we announce this week then we might as well just leave it open the one more day but fix the 3k thing
[14:50] <cjohnston> Noone told me we were gonna announce this week
[14:50] <jcastro> I was just told
[14:51] <cjohnston> lol
[14:51] <czajkowski> *grin*
[14:51] <jcastro> but no biggie
[14:51]  * czajkowski gives jcastro a large pint of beer
[14:51] <jcastro> I'm going to have to go and have 2489374875 people PM me to delete their application anyway
[14:52] <Daviey> jcastro, o/
[14:52] <Daviey> cjohnston, o/
[14:52] <cjohnston> there he is
[14:52] <jcastro> Daviey: we need a few fixes so we can go live
[14:52] <cjohnston> Daviey: we need info about the summit db..
[14:53] <Daviey> cjohnston, what info?
[14:53] <cjohnston> Daviey: does this need a migration: https://code.launchpad.net/~chrisjohnston/summit/718794/+merge/49713
[14:54] <cjohnston> and/or should we change from a CharField to a TextField?
[14:56] <Daviey> looking
[14:57] <cjohnston> ty
[14:57] <Daviey> TextField would make more sense IMO
[14:58] <Daviey> cjohnston, seems to be academic anyway
[14:58] <Daviey> further_info text NOT NULL
[15:04] <cjohnston> is further_info a required field?
[15:07] <cjohnston> jcastro: ^
[15:07] <jcastro> ok so what does that mean in english?
[15:08] <jcastro> oh, do we need the field?
[15:08] <jcastro> yes
[15:08] <cjohnston> hmm.. http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/sponsorship/
[15:08] <cjohnston> for some reason right now it doesnt exist
[15:08] <nigelb> so till now what we entered there went no where?
[15:09] <nigelb> how depressing
[15:09] <JFo> that was a feature
[15:09] <nigelb> lol
[15:09] <JFo> it is feel good computing
[15:09] <nigelb> btw, did anyone see http://www.nokiaplana.com/ ?
[15:10] <nigelb> there is now b,c,d,e,f,g...
[15:10] <jcastro> cjohnston: what do you mean doesn't exist?
[15:10] <nigelb> I like plan g.  Partner with ubuntu
[15:10] <nigelb> http://www.nokiaplang.com/
[15:10] <cjohnston> I see an "About you" field, but not a further info field..
[15:11] <Daviey> cjohnston, yeah, so a migration shouldn't be need
[15:11] <Daviey> ed
[15:12] <nigelb> I see a further_info in my db.
[15:12] <cjohnston> Right.. but look at the actual form nigelb
[15:13] <nigelb> cjohnston: you generall see that after clicking submit on the first form
[15:13] <nigelb> Plsae se above mentioned depression :P
[15:14] <cjohnston> Daviey: if it doesnt need one, and leaving a charfield is ok, then the merge is ready to be done and pushed live
[15:14] <nigelb> akgraner: Ok, those Murphy's law quotes are awesome.
[15:15] <Daviey> cjohnston, I don't have time right now to review... but if trunk is good to go, i could probably do a deployment today
[15:15] <cjohnston> mhall119: ^^
[15:16]  * nigelb bribes mhall119 to review his 2 branches
[15:16] <akgraner> nigelb, glad you liked them :-)
[15:16] <cjohnston> I'll be back in a bit.. time to go play on the ATVs
[15:16] <cjohnston> yay
[15:16] <cjohnston> akgraner: did you see the pictures from yesterday shooting?
[15:17] <akgraner> nope - I've been under a rock the last few weeks
[15:18] <akgraner> I'll look later - don't post the link here for me
[15:18] <cjohnston> :-)
[15:18] <cjohnston> Its on my FB akgraner
[15:18] <akgraner> I'll look later
[15:18] <akgraner> thanks
[15:19] <cjohnston> :-)
[15:19] <cjohnston> See you and your hubbs and JFo in a few hours!
[15:19] <JFo> :)
[15:19]  * mhall119 reads backlog
[15:20] <nigelb> mhall119: We should recruit JFo to do all the kicking we both owe cjohnston :-P
[15:20] <cjohnston> I didn't do it
[15:20] <JFo> heh
[15:20] <cjohnston> I'm off
[15:21] <nigelb> laters
[15:21] <nigelb> Sigh. Gotta set up LDAP.  I'm going to have a fun evening pulling my hair out.
[15:22] <mhall119> nigelb: I'm sure JFo would be happy to accomodate us
[15:22] <nigelb> \o/
[15:22] <JFo> :)
[15:23] <mhall119> Daviey: right now summit has CharFields with max_length=1000
[15:23] <mhall119> cjohnston's changes push that up to max_length=3000
[15:23] <mhall119> if those are varchar(1000) in the database, then we need a migration to convert them to varchar(3000)
[15:23] <mhall119> but if they're Text of CLOB fields, we don't
[15:24] <mhall119> so that was the question, what's the column definition in the production database
[15:27] <mhall119> oh nevermind, digging into the code gives me the answer
[15:28] <mhall119> the form uses CharField, but the model uses TextField
[15:28] <nigelb> I tried saying that earlier, but I didn't realzie what the problem was.
[15:29] <mhall119> nigelb: I have a question about your branch
[15:29] <nigelb> mhall119: yes?
[15:30] <mhall119> one second, let me finish with cjohnston's branch
[15:30] <nigelb> lets move to -locoteams?
[15:30] <mhall119> sure
[15:31] <dpm> I'm in #drupal, and they are constantly talking about a PHP function called dpm, so I'm constantly being pinged. I got the best on today, though "<atrofast> Nice, dpm is awesome"
[15:31] <dpm> not addressed to me though, but nice nevertheless :)
[15:32] <dpm> I think I'll stay on that channel
[15:32]  * czajkowski hugs dpm 
[15:32]  * dpm hugs czajkowski :)
[15:37] <nigelb> dpm: haha.  You are awesome anyway :)
[15:46] <dpm> heh, I'm not sure :) I think anyway this assertion can be made about everyone on this channel
[15:51] <kim0> lol :) @dpm
[15:53] <dholbach> hey jono
[15:54] <dholbach> he jono! how are you doing?
[15:54] <jono> hey dholbach, good thanks! you?
[15:54] <dholbach> grrreat, thanks :)
[16:08] <doctormo> dholbach: Had your Frosties this morning?
[16:08] <dholbach> doctormo, yes, something like that :)
[16:09] <doctormo> dholbach: Go get em tiger.
[16:09] <dholbach> ROAR!
[16:11] <nigelb> heh
[16:15] <mhall119> lol
[16:15] <vish> hehe!
[16:23] <vish> anyone remember the name of the parental control program fagan was working on?
[16:27] <czajkowski> vish: is it on is lp page ?
[16:28] <vish> ah!
[16:28]  * vish goes looking..  :)
[16:28] <czajkowski> vish: or poke him in -ie wher he idles
[16:29] <cjohnston> jcastro: ping
[16:30] <jcastro> yo
[16:30] <vish> lol! is is called "Parental control" :) https://launchpad.net/parental-control
[16:30] <cjohnston> It's merged in and ready
[16:30] <jcastro> \o/
[16:30] <vish> czajkowski: thanks.. not sure where i had left my brain :)
[16:30] <jcastro> crap, got the RT handy?
[16:30] <czajkowski> vish: np
[16:31] <cjohnston> check your email :-P
[16:31] <cjohnston> one sec
[16:31] <czajkowski> I rarely see him online any more tbh
[16:31] <jcastro> cjohnston: lol duh
[16:31] <jcastro> it's sitting right on top
[16:31] <cjohnston> 16555
[16:35] <czajkowski> jcastro: please watch and rewatch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9ymILflac0 :D
[16:40] <doctormo> czajkowski: This video contains content from Sony Music Entertainment. It is not available in your country.
[16:41] <cjohnston> what he said
[16:41] <czajkowski> oh now you know how I feel wiht most content.
[16:41] <czajkowski> how odd though
[16:41] <czajkowski> jounrye
[16:41] <czajkowski> *journey
[16:41] <czajkowski> propper version
[16:46] <vish> hehe! atleast someone blocks doctormo , that video is viewable from India ;p
[16:53] <dholbach> ok my friends - have a great rest of your day! see you tomorrow! HUGS!
[16:53] <cjohnston> bye dholbach !
[16:53] <dholbach> bye cjohnston
[16:56] <doctormo> vish: It's blocked in the USA
[16:57] <doctormo> I hate it when Indians blame me for their country's ISP blocking.
[16:57] <vish> ;p
[16:57] <vish> doctormo: seems our government doesnt trust you enough ;)
[16:58] <doctormo> Snot my IP-Address
[16:58] <doctormo> *Ew* I just read Miguel's most recent blog post, I think I need another shower.
[16:58] <doctormo> What is it about the smarmy git that just makes me want to punch him out.
[16:59] <doctormo> Thank got I know him well enough to know it's just high grade ignorance.
[16:59] <vish> doctormo: which one?
[17:00] <vish> the nokia landscape ?
[17:00] <doctormo> Oh the "mono" will be the programming language of the mobile world!
[17:00]  * vish reads..
[17:01] <jcastro> why does that make you want to punch him?
[17:01] <doctormo> jcastro: The way he words things I think.
[17:02] <doctormo> The dismembered personal morality doesn't help. The way he's always rooting for the over-dog, always the big guy should win and bully. Yea I don't like him much.
[17:02] <jcastro> lol ok
[17:03] <jcastro> you're not making any sense
[17:03] <popey> +2
[17:03] <doctormo> jcastro: Maybe you need to meet the guy.
[17:04] <jcastro> I've met him plenty of times
[17:04] <jcastro> cjohnston: ok try now
[17:05] <doctormo> jcastro: And he didn't call you names? I suspect you didn't really meet him ;-)
[17:05] <jcastro> ...
[17:05] <jcastro> I think you just hate the guy
[17:06] <popey> We (Ubuntu UK Podcast) have asked RMS for an interview.
[17:06] <popey> His demands:-
[17:06] <doctormo> jcastro: Absolutely.
[17:06] <popey> 1) we refer to GNU/Linux, not Linux
[17:06] <popey> 2) we refer to Free Software, not Open Source
[17:07] <popey> 3) He be allowed to criticise Ubuntu
[17:07] <popey> 4) We only release the show as Ogg, not mp3.
[17:07] <doctormo> popey: RMS is hilarious, but only from a distance.
[17:07] <popey> I am fine with 3) and am "meh" to 1) and 2), but 4) is just annoying.
[17:07] <vish>  popey: and what was decided.. ?
[17:08] <popey> we haven't yet
[17:08] <popey> hence why I brought it up
[17:08] <jcastro> popey: want to test summit real quick?
[17:08] <popey> might suggest to him that we release in Ogg format first, and mp3 later
[17:08] <popey> sure jcastro , link me up
[17:08] <doctormo> I'd solve 1) by not mentioning Linux at all, and demanding that Gnu or Linux not be mentioned.
[17:08] <jcastro> popey: ok let me delete your old one
[17:09] <jcastro> popey: http://summit.ubuntu.com and click sponsorships
[17:10] <dpm> calling it a day here, see you all tomorrow!
[17:11] <popey> i see nothing called "sonsorships"
[17:11] <popey> I see "Sponsorship"
[17:11] <popey> :)
[17:11] <jcastro> whatever
[17:11] <popey> bah, joke fail
[17:11] <popey> :)
[17:11] <jcastro> heh
[17:11] <popey> We are not currently accepting sponsorship applications for uds-o in Budapest, Hungary . Please check back again later!
[17:11] <jcastro> popey: I would look at it with deeper meaning, how is RMS ontopic to an ubuntu podcast?
[17:12] <popey> He's in the UK next month, figured he might be someone we could talk to
[17:12] <vish> popey: IMO, (4) isnt too bad /unless/ you have strong reasons for wanting a mp3 podcast … if mp3 is just there for convenience , just humor him, and think that the Ogg to mp3 conversion for that podcast failed :)
[17:12] <popey> we have talked to SUSE and Centos people
[17:12] <doctormo> jcastro: I can't imagine he would do much more than vent about Ubuntu proprietary bits.
[17:12] <popey> vish: at least 50% of our listeners download the MP4 version
[17:12] <popey> *MP3
[17:12] <popey> I would be alienating at least 50% of the audience by not providing an MP3 download
[17:13] <popey> jcastro: is that what you expected? the error message?
[17:13] <jcastro> yeah
[17:13] <popey> coolio
[17:13] <jcastro> however I wanted you to try the expanded form
[17:13] <popey> oh?
[17:13] <jcastro> but I am figuring out how to turn it on
[17:13] <jcastro> one moment
[17:13] <popey> ok
[17:14] <popey> +------------+
[17:14] <popey> |Standing By!|
[17:14] <popey> +------------+
[17:16] <jcastro> sorry one sec, getting flamed on the internet
[17:16] <popey> \o/
[17:16] <jcastro> popey: ok try now
[17:16] <jcastro> in the about you form
[17:16] <jcastro> paste a ton of crap
[17:16] <AlanBell> jcastro: http://www.xkcd.com/386/
[17:16] <jcastro> we upped the text from 1k to 3k
[17:17] <jcastro> so I want to test that bit
[17:17] <jcastro> popey: ^
[17:17] <popey> ok
[17:17] <jcastro> lemme know when you're done and I'll put it back in locked mode
[17:18] <popey> Ensure this value has at most 3000 characters (it has 18537).
[17:18] <popey> ^ jcastro
[17:19] <jcastro> ok
[17:19] <popey> which is a shame because i submitted something nice :(
[17:19] <jcastro> can you put in something over 1k?
[17:19] <doctormo> popey: War and peace?
[17:19] <jcastro> and see if it works?
[17:19] <jcastro> or try to bring it under 3k
[17:19] <popey> ok
[17:19] <popey>  ______________________
[17:19] <popey> < Jorge For President! >
[17:19] <popey>  ----------------------
[17:19] <popey>         \   ^__^
[17:19] <popey>          \  (oo)\_______
[17:19] <popey>             (__)\       )\/\
[17:19] <popey>                 ||----w |
[17:19] <popey>                 ||     ||
[17:19] <popey> :)
[17:20] <vish> $apt-get jorge
[17:20] <popey> done
[17:20] <jcastro> ok
[17:20] <popey> "We'll let you know whether or not your request has been accepted soon via email.
[17:20] <popey> "
[17:20] <jcastro> rock
[17:20] <jcastro> ok all set
[17:20] <popey> (that doesn't normally happen does it) ?
[17:21] <jcastro> thanks dude
[17:21] <popey> i.e. usually you only find out if you are sponsored?
[17:21] <popey> unless something has changed
[17:21] <jcastro> you find out both
[17:21] <popey> ok, cool
[17:21] <Technoviking> If we get Jorge for President, Daviey need to be made a duke of something:)
[17:21] <popey> Duke of Egg Consumption.
[17:21] <Pendulum> I was going to say Duke of Cadbury
[17:22] <maco> s/Cadbury/Kraft/
[17:22] <maco> :(
[17:25] <vish> popey: but that 50% could be because you have 2 options and a 50% split is not an obvious decider(without me knowing other info) .. its not necessary that /not/ having mp3 would prevent users from downloading the Ogg version.. audience might try to listen to the Ogg one.. has there been a drop in audience when mp3 was not available?
[17:25] <vish> eitherway you would have an audience spike for an RMS interview and the loss of audience might be negligible :)
[17:26] <popey> long and short is
[17:26] <popey> we are _not_ stopping having mp3 downloads
[17:26] <popey> end of :)
[17:27] <vish> :)
[17:27] <popey> we get a _lot_ of downloads from iTunes / iPhones
[17:27] <popey> and they absolutely cannot download/play Oggs
[17:27] <popey> I am not about to inconvenience half the audience - who have already embraced non-free software.
[17:27] <popey> anyway, now, pub!
[17:36] <AlanBell> popey: presumably the interview would be a segment, not the full hour+ of banter
[17:36] <AlanBell> so edit it out of the MP3 version
[17:36] <AlanBell> and replace with 10 minutes of chicken noises
[17:37] <jcastro> he's probably pubbed by now
[17:37] <jcastro> I would be
[17:37] <AlanBell> he has scrollback
[17:37] <doctormo> AlanBell: Knowing popey, he might just do that.
[17:38] <AlanBell> popey: pop round with the outside broadcast unit and interview my chickens with the same set of questions timed at the same intervals as the ogg version :)
[17:41] <jono> mhall119, hey
[17:42] <mhall119> hey jono
[17:42] <jono> you have hacked on the LoCo Directory before, right?
[17:42] <mhall119> once or twice ;)
[17:42] <jono> mhall119, how often does it sync which teams you are in with LP?
[17:42] <jono> I just got reapproved for the us-ca team and when I try to add an event it assumes it is for ubuntu-uk and doesn't ask me which team
[17:42] <mhall119> every time you log in, it (should) get the list of teams you're member of from the OpenID response
[17:43] <jono> before it asked which team the event was for
[17:43] <mhall119> but the that comes from SSO
[17:43] <mhall119> SSO and LP have some hacked syncing going on for team memberships
[17:43] <mhall119> I don't know how often that happens
[17:43] <jono> ahhh I will relog in
[17:43] <jono> ahhh I think this will work
[17:44] <jono> now it works
[17:44] <mhall119> cool
[17:44] <jono> cool, I will file a bug about this
[17:44] <mhall119> ok
[18:12] <jono> mhall119, https://bugs.launchpad.net/loco-directory/+bug/719472
[18:12] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 719472 in loco-directory "Teams associated with a user are not synced while logged in" [Undecided,New]
[18:12] <jono> :-)
[18:23] <jcastro> jono: ping
[18:27] <jono> jcastro, yo
[18:28] <czajkowski> 18:10 [freenode] -!- WALLOP Md:  sorry for the noise, one of our sponsors just  had unexpected networking troubles
[18:31] <Pici> czajkowski: thanks for the heads up.
[18:31] <Pici> (I was stuck unidentified and not +w)
[18:31] <czajkowski> if you had wallops on you'd see them
[18:31] <czajkowski> poeple should turn on +w
[18:33] <Pici> I know, irssi was freaking out and +w didn't get set for some reason.
[18:33] <doctormo> mhall119: I didn't think we did get a response like that in the sign-on
[18:34]  * AlanBell wonders how to turn on +w
[18:34] <doctormo> The code I got from the loco directory just contained nicknames and names, no email adrs or any other data.
[18:34] <Pici> AlanBell: depends on client: /mode AlanBell +w   or /umode +w
[18:34] <AlanBell> ok, that seems to have done it
[18:36] <AlanBell> so now I should get wallop messages in every channel window when they happen?
[18:39] <AlanBell> jcastro: on Friday 25th on the fridge you have added "Unity Developer Q+A on #ayatana"
[18:39] <AlanBell> is that in -meeting or in -classroom?
[18:40]  * AlanBell slaps head
[18:40] <AlanBell> in #ayatana I assume
[18:41] <AlanBell> why is #ayatana not #ubuntu-ayatana?
[18:42]  * Pici shrugs
[18:47] <tsimpson> probably because it's a canonical thing, rather than an ubuntu specific thing
[18:50] <maco> AlanBell: usually status window i think
[18:51] <doctormo> tsimpson: I'm not so sure, ayatana might be Canonical, but unity?
[18:51] <doctormo> If unity is Canonical, then what's left for the Ubuntu community to get involved with?
[18:51] <doctormo> Because the contributors agreement is making it harder and harder to contribute as it is.
[18:52] <tsimpson> who knows...
[18:55] <AlanBell> maco: I have joins and parts from 60 other channels in there
[19:00] <jcastro> AlanBell: I want it in #ayatana because that's where we want developers hanging out to ask questions anyway
[19:00] <jcastro> and it'll be a regular thing in there
[19:01] <AlanBell> cool, so I can have -meeting
[19:01] <jcastro> for sure
[19:20] <mhall119> doctormo: what do you mean we don't get a response liket that from sso?
[19:59] <JFo> check it out: http://akgraner.com/?p=887 Open Source Community Cookbook
[20:00] <JFo> what a great idea akgraner
[20:00] <JFo> oh she is away
[20:00] <JFo> nm :-)
[20:00] <JFo> but seriously, add your goodies there ^^
[20:01] <maco> nice
[20:02] <maco> though anything i make from a recipe, the recipe came from elsewhere. and anything else i make, i don't measure so wouldn't know what the recipe is
[20:03] <JFo> same for me, but I am going to guesstimate
[20:03] <JFo> :)
[20:03] <JFo> I think, (at least my plan) is to test recipes :-D
[20:04] <maco> i'll send in my grandma's lady lock recipe
[20:04] <AlanBell> http://ubuntu-uk.org/category/recipes/
[20:04] <AlanBell> akgraner: ^^
[20:04] <maco> and i think this gives me reason to finally get around to figuring out the vegan equivalent to hers....
[20:05] <maco> (though i'll need to buy some dowels...wonder where you get those...)
[20:08] <czajkowski> 20:06 [freenode] -Martinp23(martinp23@freenode/staff/wikimedia.martinp23)-  [Global Notice] Hi everyone. You will have possibly noticed some  instability on the network earlier this evening. The network is under  a sustained DDoS and so lag and possible further splits are to be  expected. We apologise for the inconvenience - our fantastic
[20:08] <czajkowski>  sponsorship andinfra teams are working to minimise the furthear  impact. Have a nice evening!
[20:12] <maco> akgraner: can you form get bigger textboxes? can't put paragraphs or numbered directions in the instruction part because it's only one line
[20:22] <mhall119> akgraner: https://code.launchpad.net/~mhall119/+junk/cookbook <- I made this for one of my Django classes
[20:54] <daker> i can't find xapian-core on maverick :s
[21:04] <czajkowski> jono: you coming in for loco council meeting
[21:12] <jono> czajkowski, I am on a call at the moment, will join soon
[21:12] <jono> I might need to bump the discussion until next week
[21:12] <czajkowski> ok
[21:13] <czajkowski> we're on it anways atm
[21:15] <czajkowski> anyone following http://twitter.com/#!/nearyd
[21:21] <jcastro> I am
[21:22] <czajkowski> whats he on about banshee now ?
[21:22] <jcastro> dunno, he lost me with the multiple tweets
[21:30] <czajkowski> pleia2: pretty flowers!
[21:32] <pleia2> czajkowski: thanks :) hooray for mjoseph!
[21:32] <czajkowski> awww
[21:32] <czajkowski> sweet
[21:40] <pleia2> popey: looks like wiki emails have started
[21:40] <popey> hahaha
[21:40] <popey> epic epic fail
[21:41] <popey> i love gmail
[21:41]  * pleia2 quickly adjusts filter to skip inbox
[21:42] <popey> i am going to verify all the sender verify mails
[21:42] <pleia2> cool, thanks
[21:42] <popey> even though I HATE sender verification with a PASSION
[21:42] <pleia2> yeah, same
[21:50] <jcastro> jono: are you on lunch?
[21:50] <pleia2> popey: think we should post this to ubuntu-news-team and get it posted to the fridge? (I'll trim off the "you're a wiki contributor" intro
[21:50] <popey> yes
[21:50] <popey> totally
[21:50] <pleia2> ok, doing so now
[21:50] <popey> magic
[21:54] <jcastro> anyone know how to make it so when you paste it does plaintext into wp instead of formatted?
[21:55] <popey> click HTML above the post
[21:55] <popey> before you post
[21:55] <jono> jcastro, nope
[21:55] <jono> was on a call
[21:55] <jcastro> jono: k, wanna do our review soonish?
[21:56] <jono> jcastro, sure, lets do it now
[21:56] <jcastro> sure
[21:56] <jono> jcastro, give me two ticks while I make a coffee
[21:57] <jcastro> no worries, I need pop anyway
[21:57] <jono> jcastro, today has been a hell of a day :-)
[21:57] <jcastro> I need whiskey
[21:57] <jcastro> and beer
[21:57] <popey> \o/ beer
[21:57] <popey> http://drool.popey.com/
[21:59] <pleia2> http://ubuntu-news.org/2011/02/15/ubuntu-wiki-to-be-re-licensed-to-cc-by-sa/ \o/
[22:00] <jcastro> hehe
[22:00] <jcastro> about time
[22:00] <jcastro> so we can move the content we care OFF OF IT!
[22:00] <jcastro> :)
[22:00] <pleia2> hehe, poor overworked wiki
[22:01] <czajkowski> watch it get 500 error messages now when folks try and start to edit it
[22:01] <czajkowski> poof collapse
[22:02] <AlanBell> is RT 42264 OK or should an additional one be raised?
[22:03] <AlanBell> it is not visible to ubuntu/ubuntu but we believe it relates to the wiki upgrade
[22:04] <czajkowski> AlanBell: it was brought up at the CC today
[22:04] <czajkowski> bug number on lp is what they are following up on
[22:06] <AlanBell> yes, that is what I have been chasing for ages, but I don't think bugs can be assigned to IS
[22:06] <czajkowski> AlanBell: can do if you poke the CC it seems
[22:07] <czajkowski> or at least chase up on it
[22:11] <AlanBell> yeah, just reading through that, seems dholbach picked up the action
[22:22] <popey> nope, I did
[22:22] <popey> I have mailed IS about it
[22:27] <AlanBell> respectfully, nicely and with the right words I hope
[22:27] <popey> :)
[22:28] <czajkowski> finding the right person in IS to talk to helps
[22:28] <czajkowski> if you don't you end up chasing your tail
[22:28] <popey> AlanBell: yhm
[22:28] <AlanBell> (I am quoting popey back at him from the logs for those who miss context)
[22:28] <czajkowski> but tehy are helpful, just launchpad admins are sooooooo frigging helpful and bend over back wards to help
[22:31]  * AlanBell has no mail
[22:34] <popey> your gmail account
[22:40] <AlanBell> gosh, I have one of those :)
[22:41] <AlanBell> thanks
[22:41] <popey> np