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| dpm | morning chrisccoulson, the LP guys have been working on a fix for the bug that caused us trouble building the Lucid langpacks. They're about to land it, but to fix Lucid (and Maverick) translations in Launchpad, we need to upload a new en-US.xpi template for FF 3.6. May I ask you to generate one for me from the src package and put it somewhere where I can fetch it and upload it manually? | 09:24 |
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| chrisccoulson | dpm - yeah, i can do that. but i think i have to do a full firefox build to do that | 09:32 |
| chrisccoulson | i'll have a look | 09:32 |
| dpm | thanks chrisccoulson. Otherwise, was not a 3.6.14 update going to happen soon? If it is soon enough, I could use the en-US.xpi file generated in that build | 09:34 |
| chrisccoulson | dpm - yeah there will be a 3.6.14 release soon, but that's already built though | 09:34 |
| dpm | chrisccoulson, if that build generated an en-US.xpi file, that'd be even better, as I could then just grab that from LP. Was the code to generate the en-US.xpi file enabled on that build? | 09:36 |
| chrisccoulson | dpm - it would have generated one, but it wouldn't have been imported by launchpad | 09:38 |
| chrisccoulson | so, i guess it's been discarded now | 09:38 |
| dpm | chrisccoulson, why wouldn't have been imported by lp? | 09:38 |
| chrisccoulson | dpm - it's built in the security PPA | 09:39 |
| dpm | oh, I see | 09:39 |
| fta2 | chrisccoulson, hi, you've got a video for your ff breakpad thingy ;) | 09:39 |
| chrisccoulson | fta2 - yeah, i saw that | 09:40 |
| chrisccoulson | that's weird, i can't recreate that though :( | 09:40 |
| chrisccoulson | perhaps the default is different in 3.6 ;) | 09:40 |
| dpm | chrisccoulson, could you point me to the security PPA (is it public?) where it was built? Perhaps I can ask the LP people to help me get it from the lp librarian | 09:41 |
| chrisccoulson | i'll look at that today though | 09:41 |
| chrisccoulson | dpm - https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-security/+archive/ppa | 09:41 |
| fta2 | chrisccoulson, i'd like to get breakpad in chromium quickly as i can't cope with the crash bugs | 09:42 |
| chrisccoulson | fta2 - yeah, that would be good. have you got anywhere to upload the symbols from, or do you want me to do that? | 09:42 |
| dpm | thanks chrisccoulson | 09:44 |
| fta2 | chrisccoulson, as i said in the mail, i'm able to generate the symbol file, but don't know what to do with it. the builders can't upload them | 09:46 |
| fta2 | chrisccoulson, i can ship them in a deb, but something else would need to extract the deb and upload | 09:46 |
| chrisccoulson | fta2 - yeah, that's what we do for firefox. we stick the symbols in to a firefox-mozsymbols package, and then i just grab that in our datacenter, unpack it and upload it | 10:04 |
| fta2 | chrisccoulson, could that be done for all the ch debs? (i mean, the whole bunch) | 10:18 |
| chrisccoulson | fta2 - yeah, that shouldn't be a problem | 10:18 |
| fta2 | cool | 10:18 |
| fta2 | i'll go for a -breakpadsymbols deb then | 10:19 |
| fta2 | should be 17MB each | 10:19 |
| fta2 | 90MB uncompressed | 10:19 |
| fta2 | chrisccoulson, how does it work? (how do you detect that you need to pull & extract the deb?) | 10:38 |
| chrisccoulson | fta2 - i just have a cron job that runs every hour (at the same rate as the publisher) that grabs the package lists for the archives | 10:39 |
| chrisccoulson | and it just parses them to get the new versions and compare those to what has already been uploaded | 10:39 |
| fta2 | ok, good enough | 10:42 |
| fta2 | you're doing it for the ff dailies too? | 10:42 |
| chrisccoulson | fta2 - yeah, i do it for the dailies as well | 10:43 |
| chrisccoulson | and also for thunderbird as well | 10:43 |
| fta2 | chrisccoulson, firefox-4.0-4.0b12pre.en-US.linux-x86_64.crashreporter-symbols.zip where does that name come from? | 13:22 |
| chrisccoulson | fta2 - that filename comes from the mozilla build system (ie, i'm not setting it manually) | 13:23 |
| fta2 | chrisccoulson, hm, in my case, it's just chrome.breakpad.x64 | 13:24 |
| fta2 | i guess i should include the version & branch | 13:24 |
| chrisccoulson | that's probably ok. it gets unpacked on the server anyway | 13:24 |
| chrisccoulson | what do the filenames look like inside? | 13:24 |
| fta2 | i don't remember, i have to rebuild :P | 13:25 |
| chrisccoulson | heh :) | 13:25 |
| chrisccoulson | there is also a manifest file in the firefox one too, but i'm not sure if that is a breakpad feature, or whether it's just added by mozilla | 13:25 |
| chrisccoulson | i know that the mozilla guys are using the manifest file for periodic cleaning of the symbol files | 13:25 |
| fta2 | i just have a text file, no manifest | 13:34 |
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| chrisccoulson | fta2 - you're on nvidia aren't you? | 14:40 |
| chrisccoulson | did you see the conversation in #ubuntu-desktop? | 14:40 |
| fta2 | ? | 14:58 |
| chrisccoulson | fta2 - new nvidia driver in xorg-edgers | 15:01 |
| chrisccoulson | (not sure if it's published juet yet though) | 15:01 |
| fta2 | \o/ | 15:02 |
| fta2 | brb | 15:03 |
| fta | -rw-r--r-- 1 1234 1234 12M 2011-02-15 16:22 chromium-browser-breakpadsymbols_11.0.672.0~svn20110215r74909-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb | 16:05 |
| fta | -rw-r--r-- root/root 92220948 2011-02-15 16:08 ./usr/lib/chromium-browser/chrome.breakpad.x64 | 16:05 |
| fta | chrisccoulson, ^^ | 16:05 |
| fta | MODULE Linux x86_64 97A80197B0F05649C6767D3FEA11A3770 chrome | 16:07 |
| fta | FILE 0 ../css/tokenizer.flex | 16:07 |
| fta | FILE 1 ./app/gfx/gl/gl_context.h | 16:07 |
| fta | FILE 2 ./app/gfx/gl/gl_context_stub.h | 16:07 |
| fta | FILE 3 ./app/sql/connection.h | 16:07 |
| fta | chrisccoulson, ^^ | 16:07 |
| fta | that's the file untouched | 16:07 |
| chrisccoulson | fta - thanks | 16:07 |
| fta | i still need to tune a few things, like the project id | 16:08 |
| fta | hm, not sure what this 97A8.. is about. if it's the md5 of the unstripped binary, it won't match | 16:12 |
| chrisccoulson | fta - it's not. i think the number is also embedded somewhere in the binary so that the server can match the binaries up to the symbols | 16:14 |
| chrisccoulson | it works for firefox, and we strip the binaries after generating the symbols too | 16:14 |
| fta | ok, good | 16:15 |
| fta | i will read the code though, i'm expecting some more magic is needed | 16:15 |
| fta | that still won't solve the EULA issue | 16:16 |
| fta | not sure what we should do here... | 16:16 |
| phsi | Is it just luck that my Minefield didn't crash once in months? :o | 17:31 |
| phsi | And is there any chance you will add PGO builds? | 17:31 |
| phsi | Also I heard that Firefox may include GStreamer as a backend on Linux, is this true? H264 could work then too, I suppose? | 17:33 |
| micahg | phsi: yes, gstreamer in Firefox has been a work in progress for a few years | 17:33 |
| phsi | Will chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-nonfree/extra continue to include H264? | 17:52 |
| micahg | phsi: no, not once it's dropped upstream | 17:52 |
| phsi | It wouldn't be too hard to get stuff back in though? If even manually | 17:53 |
| micahg | phsi: I don't know about that, it's open source, so in theory should be possible | 17:54 |
| phsi | Yeah, well. The buildscripts look a bit funky but it should be fine I suppose.. | 17:54 |
| fta | chrisccoulson, is firefox using breakpad on arm? | 18:22 |
| chrisccoulson | fta - yeah. it's only enabled on i386, amd64 and arm | 18:23 |
| fta | good | 18:28 |
| chrisccoulson | fta - i don't think breakpad even compiles on the other architectures | 18:29 |
| chrisccoulson | and in any case, google probably don't care about those ;) | 18:29 |
| fta | sure, i was just curious about arm | 18:33 |
| fta | i didn't find any arch restriction in the rules file for breakpad | 18:33 |
| phsi | Will there ever be PGO builds in the PPA? | 18:45 |
| JoeBlacken | Hi, I know this is a ubuntu team, but I guess you might know the answer even for windows. My question is about the notification bar in firefox or thunderbird. How can I change its color? | 18:48 |
| balu200000 | ich brauche hilfe | 19:07 |
| magcius | /usr/include/xulrunner-2.0b12pre/jspubtd.h:105: fatal error: jsproto.tbl: No such file or directory | 20:10 |
| magcius | anybody know why that's failing? | 20:10 |
| magcius | sounds like you packaged it incorrectly | 20:11 |
| * magcius pings chrisccoulson, micahg | 20:12 | |
| chrisccoulson | yes? | 20:12 |
| magcius | did you forget to package jsproto.tbl with the headers? | 20:13 |
| chrisccoulson | possibly | 20:13 |
| magcius | I can go fetch it myself, but just wanted to make you aware. | 20:13 |
| magcius | jspubtd.h includes it, and jsapi.h includes jspubtd.h | 20:14 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, i made some changes in the packaging last week, that must have just dropped off | 20:15 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks | 20:15 |
| chrisccoulson | magcius, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/xulrunner/xulrunner-2.0.head/revision/645 | 20:17 |
| chrisccoulson | that will be picked up by the next nightly | 20:18 |
| magcius | Thanks. | 20:21 |
| magcius | chrisccoulson, you also need *.msg for js.msg | 20:27 |
| chrisccoulson | heh, thanks | 20:27 |
| magcius | after that it works | 20:28 |
| chrisccoulson | ok, pushed a fix for that too | 20:29 |
| magcius | Thanks. | 20:29 |
| magcius | I assume none of these things matter for firefox-4.0-trunk or the like? | 20:29 |
| chrisccoulson | magcius, they will do | 20:35 |
| chrisccoulson | but, we don't ship a shared libmozjs in firefox, so there shouldn't be anything including the jsapi headers really | 20:36 |
| chrisccoulson | unless they're crazy ;) | 20:36 |
| chrisccoulson | i'll copy the same fixes across for the firefox-dev package though | 20:36 |
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| jcastro | fta: hey any clue how/if a11y is coming along in chromium? | 21:02 |
| fta | jcastro, i didn't hear anything about it, but i didn't search for it either | 21:04 |
| micahg | jcastro: wouldn't that depend on the support in Webkit for it in part? | 21:04 |
| fta | yes, that's part of the answer | 21:04 |
| fta | fighting with breakpad right now, i want the crashers upstreamed asap | 21:05 |
| jcastro | well, I'm just wondering if it's worth pursuing chromium-by-default at some point | 21:05 |
| jcastro | but if it's as complicated as whenever we talked about it last then ... | 21:05 |
| fta | jcastro, don't get me wrong, i just don't know. maybe it's moving, maybe not | 21:06 |
| fta | i moved to unity yesterday, i'm lost | 21:06 |
| jcastro | can you ask around? no rush or anything | 21:07 |
| jcastro | heh | 21:07 |
| fta | filed 10 bugs already | 21:07 |
| jcastro | I saw your app mode bug | 21:07 |
| jcastro | jason tells me it can be fixed, so I am hoping for a fix soon | 21:08 |
| fta | doh, found another bug | 21:08 |
| fta | drag a desktop file from nautilus to the side bar, get an empty black slot | 21:08 |
| fta | what's the equivalent of the old applications menu? | 21:10 |
| jcastro | clicking the application button on the bottom left | 21:12 |
| jcastro | but that doesn't work sometimes | 21:12 |
| fta | ohh | 21:12 |
| fta | thanks | 21:13 |
| fta | jcastro, http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=28286 one bit fixed | 21:13 |
| fta | http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=27112 not fixed | 21:13 |
| fta | http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=24585 some clues in the last comment | 21:14 |
| fta | https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25531 ohh, starting to look good | 21:16 |
| ubot2 | bugs.webkit.org bug 25531 in Accessibility "[GTK] Metabug: Bugs blocking Orca support" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 21:16 |
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| fta | jcastro, will there be an indicator with the world clock like before? | 22:07 |
| jcastro | yeah someone's working on that | 22:08 |
| jcastro | I don't know the status offhand | 22:08 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: feel free to take any of the xulrunner porting stuff | 22:10 |
| fta | jcastro, also the weather indicator is kind of weak, mph, no km/h choice, hard to read (dark on dark),.. | 22:12 |
| fta | saw some good mokups though | 22:14 |
| LLStarks | fta, do i blame firefox or chrome/ium for the latter not actually importing my settings when it says it does? | 22:17 |
| fta | LLStarks, ch just imports from ~/.mozilla/firefox/ so if your ff profile is called something else, it won't work | 22:20 |
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| LLStarks | it is firefox | 22:21 |
| fta | grrr, with unity (or is compiz), xchat doesn't beep when asked to | 22:21 |
| fta | +it | 22:22 |
| LLStarks | anyway to do import manually? | 22:22 |
| fta | LLStarks, the b-m, yes, you have an import entry in the b-m manager | 22:22 |
| LLStarks | b-m? | 22:23 |
| fta | bookmarks | 22:23 |
| fta | you can ask ff to export, and ch to import | 22:23 |
| LLStarks | firefox can export? | 22:24 |
| LLStarks | i really don't care about bookmarks, i want chromium to have a fully saturated awesomebar that has browsing history parity with ff | 22:25 |
| LLStarks | fta, can chromium import addressbar/searchbar data? | 22:43 |
| fta | i don't know. it has its own stuff already. right click the bar | 22:44 |
| LLStarks | god, chrome is refusing to import anything. firefox is closed and it procedes like it hsould. | 23:01 |
| LLStarks | i dun get it | 23:01 |
| LLStarks | oh i know, is it importing the profile i don't use at all? | 23:02 |
| LLStarks | still nothing... does chrome hate ff4? | 23:03 |
| LLStarks | very nice... i have to downpin to umd maverick to do this. | 23:06 |
| LLStarks | okay, i'm at a loss. how do you set up a firefox 3.6 environment on natty that uses a 4.0 profile | 23:31 |
| micahg | we don't support firefox 3.6 on natty, also, I don't know if the profiles are backwards compatible yet | 23:33 |
| micahg | the daily PPA should have a firefox 3.6 build, you could pin that higher than the archive | 23:33 |
| magcius | chrisccoulson, doesn't gtkmozembed use firefox rather than xulrunner? | 23:37 |
| magcius | Oh, who do I blame for "Restart Firefox" not restarting firefox in the breakpad crash reporter? | 23:38 |
| micahg | magcius: gtkmozembed uses xulrunner | 23:48 |
| magcius | hm, ok. | 23:48 |
| magcius | I'm not sure I understand what the purpose of firefox having its own copy of the libraries then | 23:49 |
| magcius | static linking causes it to load faster or something? | 23:49 |
| micahg | magcius: to be closer to the upstream build | 23:49 |
| micahg | FF on XR isn't tested | 23:50 |
| magcius | what is upstream's build rationalization? | 23:50 |
| micahg | they ship it as one unit | 23:50 |
| magcius | mozilla-central is where both "abrowser" (Firefox) and xulrunner get their code from? | 23:50 |
| micahg | yes, but they don't ship Firefox on top of xulrunner, they just ship firefox | 23:51 |
| magcius | OK. | 23:53 |
| magcius | the difference is that Firefox just has all the libs statically linked, and they use a binary entry point instead of a .js/.xul one? | 23:54 |
| chrisccoulson | the issue with using a system xulrunner is we don't want the pain of updating it in a stable release every few months, potentially breaking everything that depends on it | 23:56 |
| chrisccoulson | in addition to that, as micahg pointed out, it's unsupported | 23:56 |
| chrisccoulson | and there are startup time improvements that depend on not using the system xulrunner too | 23:56 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm not sure what you mean about binary versus js/xul entry point. they both start in the same way | 23:57 |
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