[00:50] <zuixro> Did anyone have MythWeb randomly stop working the other day? I just get a generic "Your site is working" page. I tried reinstalling mythweb and it didn't fix it.
[00:51] <zuixro> I'm running .24-fixes
[02:19] <Patrickdk> fine for me
[02:38] <tgm4883> !0byte
[02:38] <Zinn> Do you get 0-byte recordings? Please help us track it down by posting information about it in this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10459420
[02:41] <patdk-lap> no 0byte here
[03:23] <mycosys> would any of the package maintainers happen to be here?
[03:25] <mycosys> want to ask you to add a metapackage to jaunty 0.22 fixes
[03:26] <mycosys> or modify libmythtv-perl to add provides libyth-perl
[03:26] <mycosys> so that i can install mythexport without breaking package management on the system
[03:55] <tgm4883> mycosys, there aren't any more 0.22 builds
[03:55] <tgm4883> nor is it easy to make any
[03:55] <tgm4883> what do you need it for?
[03:56] <mycosys> to make mythexport work
[03:56] <tgm4883> Thanks, I gathered that much
[03:56] <mycosys> libmyth-perl changed name to libmythtv-perl
[03:56] <tgm4883> so mythexport is depending on libmyth-perl then?
[03:57] <mycosys> just need a dummy package named libmyth-perl that depends libmythtv-perl
[03:57] <mycosys> yup
[03:57] <tgm4883> mycosys, would it work if mythexport depended on libmythtv-perl instead?
[03:57] <mycosys> probably
[03:57] <tgm4883> ok
[03:57] <tgm4883> rhpot1991, ping
[03:58] <tgm4883> rhpot1991, ^^ can you change mythexport to depend on libmyth-perl or libmythtv-perl
[03:58] <mycosys> thing is mythexport is 2.0, main jaunty repo iirc
[03:59] <mycosys> spose wouldnt be hard to add 2.0.5 to ppa or something
[03:59] <tgm4883> yea it would likely have to hit the PPA
[03:59] <tgm4883> expecially since jaunty isn't supported anymore
[04:00] <mycosys> yeah - should have gone a lts release lol
[04:00] <mycosys> but it works well so why rebuild on 10.04
[04:01] <mycosys> was silly enough to go from 0.22trunk to 0.22fixes, that is what broke mythexport
[04:01] <mycosys> if it cant be fixed, spose i will just use another export system
[04:01] <mycosys> just having a web if is nice
[04:02] <tgm4883> mycosys, at the very least, you could rebuild the package yourself
[04:02] <tgm4883> iirc, dpkg -x package, dpkg -e package, fix depends, dpkg -b
[04:02] <mycosys> would have NO idea how
[04:02] <mycosys> you make it sound easy - premature arthritis disagrees atm
[04:03] <tgm4883> nah it really is pretty easy, since you are only changing package stuff
[04:03] <tgm4883> or you could just force the installation
[04:04] <mycosys> ldid force it - then apt-get wouldnt do anything
[04:05] <rhpot1991> tgm4883: the latest should depend on libmythtv-perl
[04:05] <mycosys> used dpkg --ignore-depends
[04:05] <mycosys> latest does - but it depends on stuff that will unistall myth0.22
[04:05] <tgm4883> rhpot1991, but does it also depend on libmyth-perl?
[04:06] <rhpot1991> tgm4883: no, libmythtv-perl replaced that
[04:06] <tgm4883> rhpot1991, what about for older users like mycosys?
[04:06] <tgm4883> rhpot1991, or can you not install mythexport on older mythtv builds?
[04:06] <rhpot1991> tgm4883: well if he is on an older system I wouldn't have updated that build I don't think
[04:06] <mycosys> you can, just not on 0.22 fixes
[04:06] <rhpot1991> I'll have to dig and see
[04:07] <rhpot1991> mycosys: so you are using jaunty repo, and mythtv-fixes autobuilds?
[04:07] <mycosys> 0.22fixes has libmythtv-perl, but has a codec pack that is extra rather than unstripped
[04:07] <tgm4883> rhpot1991, i'd probably still go the route of making the depends an OR statement, then people can install it at their own risk
[04:08] <mycosys> mythexport 2.1.x depends on the extra codec pack, myth0.22 depends on unstripped
[04:08] <tgm4883> iirc, you just need to change the depends from 'libmythtv-perl' to 'libmythtv-perl | libmyth-perl'
[04:08] <tgm4883> then it will try to install libmythtv-perl, if that fails, it will try libmyth-perl
[04:08] <mycosys> if you modify mythexport 2.1.x to use the unstripped codec pack that would prolly work too
[04:09] <tgm4883> that depends change shouldn't have any ill effects for new builds
[04:09] <mycosys> libavcodec it is
[04:09] <mycosys> if you use extra u get more encode options
[04:10] <mycosys> but unstripped should work
[04:10] <rhpot1991> mycosys: are you running mythexport from the testing-ppa or jaunty repos?
[04:11] <mycosys> think it is testing
[04:11] <mycosys> no
[04:11] <mycosys> jaunty i think
[04:11] <mycosys> testing is 2.1.x
[04:11] <mycosys> tried both
[04:12] <rhpot1991> 2.01 is in testing
[04:13] <tgm4883> rhpot1991, see line 17 of http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/mythtv/mythtv-fixes/view/head:/debian/control
[04:13] <Zinn> [bazaar.launchpad.net] ~mythbuntu/mythtv/mythtv-fixes : contents of debian/control at revision 417
[04:13] <tgm4883> that has OR depends in it
[04:14] <rhpot1991> tgm4883: ya I've seen that before
[04:14] <tgm4883> ah ok
[04:14] <rhpot1991> I need to find my jaunty code though, that hasn't been touched in ages
[04:14] <rhpot1991> is jaunty even still supported?
[04:14] <tgm4883> rhpot1991, nope
[04:14] <tgm4883> karmic is until april
[04:14] <rhpot1991> mycosys: why aren't you upgrading then?
[04:14] <tgm4883> jaunty support ended in oct
[04:14]  * tgm4883 goes to spend time with the wifey
[04:15] <mycosys> is 2.01`
[04:15] <mycosys> and not upgrading because myth should be treated as an appliance
[04:15] <mycosys> even the devs will tell you that
[04:15] <mycosys> i have no real reason to upgrade
[04:16] <mycosys> tho i will when i get time
[04:16] <mycosys> actually - will use a spare machine to build on 10l.04 lts ans move the database over
[04:16] <mycosys> but - prolly 4 months away, in uni break
[04:17] <rhpot1991> mycosys: its already using unstripped
[04:17] <rhpot1991>  libavcodec-unstripped-52, libavdevice-unstripped-52, libavformat-unstripped-52, libavutil-unstripped-49,
[04:17] <mycosys> yeah - but depends on libmyth-perl
[04:18] <rhpot1991> so you need that to be libmythtv-perl and that fixes everything then?
[04:18] <mycosys> 2.1.x depends libmythtv-perl but uses extra
[04:18] <rhpot1991> ya packages changed then
[04:18] <mycosys> changing 2.1.x to be or unstripped would probably be safer
[04:18] <rhpot1991> and I didn't release 2.1.x for jaunty
[04:18] <mycosys> would just lose some encode options, not risk some sort of change of perl bindings
[04:19] <rhpot1991> mycosys: I'm not comfortable pushing that since I didn't check any of the changes with jaunty
[04:19] <rhpot1991> you could take newer code and built it on a ppa for jaunty if you wanted to
[04:19] <rhpot1991> or I could add the libmythtv-perl fix to the current jaunty testing release
[04:19] <mycosys> that would be ok
[04:20] <rhpot1991> mycosys: gonna send you a pm
[04:20] <mycosys> np
[13:33] <__NeuTron> Hey everyone... I've been searching for hours on getting my Hauppauge 850 working with a fresh install of mythubuntu 10.10.  Almost every forum I come aross shows when doing 'lsusb' it prints out 'Hauppage WinTV-HVR-850' - mine only says "hauppauge', my dmesg also shows NOTHING about this device during boot up, where others shows something.  Am I missing something? has anyone else here gotten it to work with 10.10?
[14:07] <chraist> __NeuTron: Take a look at; http://www.kernellabs.com/blog/?p=1445
[14:07] <Zinn> [www.kernellabs.com] Hauppauge USBLive2 and new HVR-850 support – KernelLabs.com
[14:16] <__NeuTron> thanks, I'll check it out
[14:27] <__NeuTron> last night I downloaded http://kernellabs.com/hg/~dheitmueller/polaris4/archive/tip.tar.gz and tried to compile it... but it failed during the make, error 2 if I recall right
[14:32] <__NeuTron> aaah, I found if click on the files link I get something else... http://kernellabs.com/hg/~dheitmueller/polaris4/archive/8d1cbe46f97f.tar.gz instead.. does anyone know which tarball I'm suppose to be grabbing?