[09:54] <Riddell> hmm, the kubuntu CD still contains language-pack-kde-pl which I removed from the live seed
[09:54] <Riddell> (lucid)
[09:55] <Riddell> I might respin it again for good luck
[10:04] <cjwatson> check the Task fields in lucid-updates first
[10:05] <cjwatson> oh, heck, maybe even in lucid, I'm not sure
[10:05] <cjwatson> hopefully it is actually possible to remove packages from tasks in stable releases ...
[10:05] <cjwatson> (feel free to respin it after checking though)
[12:02] <Riddell> cjwatson: language-pack-kde-pl-base in lucid-updates still has Task: kubuntu-live
[12:02] <cjwatson> sigh
[12:02] <cjwatson> let me think
[12:02] <cjwatson> cron.germinate won't be run for lucid
[12:03] <cjwatson> I could perhaps hit the overrides by hand
[12:07] <cjwatson> done, but I'm also going to need a by-hand publisher run
[12:07] <cjwatson> I'll do that after this normal one ...
[12:08] <Riddell> cjwatson: why by hand?
[12:09] <cjwatson> because the publisher only runs on a suite if it thinks it's dirty, and there's no way to mark it as such when you change something external to the Launchpad database
[12:09] <Riddell> I see
[13:11] <charlie-tca> cjwatson: we removed three language packs from the Lucid 10.04.2 seeds, but the image has not resized at all. I still see the image from yesterday (2011-02-14.2)
[13:12] <charlie-tca> That is for the Xubuntu Desktop amd64 image
[13:13] <cjwatson> same problem as Riddell
[13:13] <cjwatson> argh, wish you'd told me 30 minutes ago :)
[13:14] <cjwatson> which packages exactly did you remove?
[13:14] <charlie-tca> sorry, not up yet
[13:14] <charlie-tca> bn, hi, and ar
[13:24] <charlie-tca> I don't know the exact packages, just the three language packs
[13:26] <cjwatson> dealing with it now
[13:26] <cjwatson> hopefully
[13:26] <charlie-tca> thank you
[13:27] <cjwatson> oh, DAMN IT
[13:27] <cjwatson> missed a bit, have to go round again
[13:28] <charlie-tca> if it fits a cd and works, I don't care if it has an extra package, do I?
[13:31] <cjwatson> I need to make it consistent if I'm doing this kind of manual hackery
[13:31] <cjwatson> otherwise on my head be it
[13:32] <charlie-tca> correct,
[13:32] <charlie-tca> sorry again. Will try harder to get things you need.
[13:33] <cjwatson> ah well
[13:47] <cjwatson> I think I've fixed it up; I'm not going to push directly to mirrors, though, but rather let the next auto run do that
[13:47] <cjwatson> so that'll be about an hour
[15:20] <cjwatson> Riddell,charlie-tca: rebuilding Kubuntu desktop i386 and Xubuntu desktop amd64 now
[15:26] <jibel> skaet, cjwatson xubuntu alternate are uninstallable, abiword has broken dependencies
[15:26] <jibel> Feb 15 13:44:17 in-target: The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[15:26] <jibel> Feb 15 13:44:17 in-target:   abiword-plugin-grammar: Depends: liblink-grammar4 (>= 4.2.2) but it is not installable
[15:26] <jibel> Feb 15 13:44:17 in-target:   abiword-plugin-mathview: Depends: libgtkmathview0c2a but it is not installable
[15:27] <cjwatson> hm, yes, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/lucid/daily/current/report.html agrees
[15:35] <cjwatson> that's odd, it's fine in chdist
[15:35]  * cjwatson checks more closely
[15:41] <charlie-tca> bug 719389
[15:41] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 719389 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Xubuntu alternate 10.04.2 cd's fail to install (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/719389
[15:42] <charlie-tca> My i386 desktop image installs without this fail
[15:44] <cjwatson> I'm jigdoing it to check
[15:45] <cjwatson> it might just have been unlucky wrt update timing and need to be refreshed
[17:32] <skaet> charlie-tca, xubuntu amd64 posted to iso tracker
[17:33] <charlie-tca> Thank you
[18:07] <cjwatson> skaet: I'm test-installing Xubuntu now, but it's also dinnertime
[18:07] <cjwatson> (test-installing so that I can run apt-get and debug)
[18:07] <skaet> cjwatson,  ok,  I'll mark the images for Xubuntu alternate as needing rebuild
[18:08] <skaet> charlie-tca, ^^
[18:11] <charlie-tca> okay
[19:27] <skaet> Riddell, cjwatson, Kubuntu DVD's posted
[19:30] <Riddell> yay
[19:30] <cjwatson> rebuilding Xubuntu
[19:30] <cjwatson> (alternate)
[19:31] <cjwatson> see bug 719389 for reasoning
[19:31] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 719389 in debian-installer (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 2 other projects) "Xubuntu alternate 10.04.2 cd's fail to install (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Critical,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/719389
[19:31] <charlie-tca> thank you
[20:11] <cjwatson> skaet: erk, that got worse
[20:13] <skaet> cjwatson, drat.   :(
[20:13] <cjwatson> oh, wait
[20:13] <cjwatson> false alarm, I was looking at natty
[20:13] <skaet> lol
[20:14]  * skaet glad we have a few weeks yet before those images go out ;)
[20:14] <cjwatson> xubuntu alternate posted
[20:14] <charlie-tca> syncing
[20:14] <skaet> :)
[20:15] <cjwatson> problems on the Ubuntu and Kubuntu DVDs:;
[20:15] <cjwatson> www/full/lucid/dvd/current/report.html:<p align=right>(there were 1 all up)</p>
[20:15] <cjwatson> www/full/kubuntu/lucid/dvd/current/report.html:<p align=right>(there were 8 all up)</p>
[20:15] <cjwatson> Ubuntu is linux-backports-modules-wireless-lucid-server
[20:15] <cjwatson> Kubuntu is language-pack-gv, language-pack-kde-gv, language-pack-kde-gv-base, linux-backports-modules-wireless-lucid-generic-pae, linux-backports-modules-wireless-lucid-server
[20:16] <cjwatson> (the numbers are numbers of .debs, not numbers of unique package names)
[20:16] <cjwatson> I don't think any of those are blockers?
[20:17]  * skaet pondering
[20:17] <skaet> what does "all up" actually mean?
[20:33] <highvoltage> does Xubuntu have LTS releases now?
[20:35] <cjwatson> skaet_: "all told" or "all together" - I was just grepping the summary line, it's a sum of all the errors above
[20:35] <cjwatson> report.html lists all the uninstallable .debs in an image
[20:35] <cjwatson> (doesn't work with live filesystems)
[20:35] <cjwatson> highvoltage: they asked for us to build this and there seemed no reason not to
[20:36] <highvoltage> cjwatson: ok
[20:38] <skaet_> cjwatson, thanks for the explanation.
[20:40] <highvoltage> cjwatson: is that at all possible for non-lts releases as well? edubuntu ships with a security bug if not updated and it would be quite nice to have that fixed out of the box
[20:42] <cjwatson> highvoltage: non-LTS releases are a bit of a different question since that would mean doing a point release for them at all
[20:42] <cjwatson> it's not out of the question I suppose but it is a noticeable amount of effort
[20:43] <cjwatson> one-off update builds aren't a problem, but if it's not for lucid, ask me about it after 10.04.2 is done
[20:49] <highvoltage> cjwatson: ok