[00:08] pleia2 - nhaines : with the original CA team logo -> http://iheartubuntu.com/ubuntu-us-ca/sleeve-2011-final.png [00:09] Oh... quick poll... What ISOs do we want? [00:11] DarkwingDuck: I'm not using git. Also if I knew gitaddress I'd be fine! [00:12] But fortunately, ilan found gitaddress and bzr handled the rest at that point. [00:12] nhaines: where is it hosted? [00:12] bzr will handle git wont it... [00:12] DarkwingDuck: code.osuosl.org, allegedly. [00:12] nhaines: :D [00:13] ilan found it at github, though. [00:13] If they compile by next weekend I'll buy an Android Market license and distribute them. :D [00:14] :D [00:14] nhaines: have you looked into SL4A and Python programs on Android? [00:22] http://iheartubuntu.com/ubuntu-us-ca/info-sheet-california-2011.pdf [00:22] nhaines: If you don't have time to get the market license, distribute the .apk anyway. [00:23] iheartubuntu: Awesome [00:23] I really need to get some stuff for Kubuntu done up... [00:24] what do you need done? i can do it in the middle of my sleep tonite [00:26] :) Same style of info sheet but more Kubuntu-ish [00:26] do you have any svgs i can work off of? [00:27] Not at the moment... [00:27] We have not had a good community base. [00:27] does ubuntu california have any flyers we can hand out? i know there is an ubuntu artwork site out there now. if we dont have any specific flyers, i can work off of other peoples stuff and build a kit of stuff for ubuntu california team [00:27] Actually that's one of the projects I'm starting to work on. [00:31] let develop a kit. [00:31] what do we want in the kit? [00:31] I have some printed of the info-sheet-california from a few months back [00:32] http://princessleia.com/images/journalpics/082010/toys_and_fliers_linux_picnic_2010.jpg [00:33] ^^ I'm bringing that stuff [00:34] I should probably update the team resources to include our website now [00:34] it's this document: http://people.ubuntu.com/~lyz/ubuntucalifornia.svg [00:34] (you have to open in inkscape, browsers are lousy at rendering svg) [00:35] yah :) [00:36] pleia2 - it looks awesome with the new font. [00:36] are u interested? [00:36] that does use the new font [00:36] it's the same one in the photo above [00:37] actually, it probably used the beta font [00:37] iheartubuntu: re: the CD cover, I probably wouldn't use the orange background for the Ubuntu logo. The paper folds are always off... usually significantly. [00:38] It does look good, though. [00:38] ohh right. i didnt have the beta font installed so it didnt pick it up [00:38] iheartubuntu: hm, did you delete all the files you linked to the mailing list? [00:38] nhaines - try printing it... i did just b/w and it looks so nice [00:38] yah [00:38] http://iheartubuntu.com/ubuntu-us-ca/ [00:39] im storing everything there now [00:39] Printing isn't going to fix the alignment or bleed issue. [00:39] ah ok [00:39] there is a sub directory also titled "alt_versions" [00:40] I agree with nhaines, I've folded some of these before and perfect alignment accuracy is a virtue we can't often afford :) [00:40] iheartubuntu: are you a ubuntu member? [00:40] what changes do we need to do on the ubuntu california flyer you linked [00:40] no [00:40] iheartubuntu: just add a link to the website I think [00:40] one day? [00:40] which website [00:40] in the "Team Resources:" section [00:40] ubuntu-california.org [00:40] mailing list and forums stay the same? [00:40] yeah [00:40] irc needs updating [00:41] yep [00:41] (i still like the old irc) [00:41] it still works [00:41] (redirects here) [00:41] launchpad same? [00:41] yep [00:41] twitter, facebook, identica all same? [00:41] do we want the website at the top of team resources? [00:41] yeah [00:42] I think [00:42] lemme doublecheck facebook [00:42] yeah, looks like [00:45] we should find a volunteer to maintain facebook, MarkDude gave me admin on it but I hate facebook [00:48] i can volunteer to do any artwork in a timely manner [00:48] i can volunteer to do facebook as well unless someone is crazy to do it [00:48] yay [00:49] we should talk about this at scale, it's unclear to me what the facebook page serves as (should we post upcoming events there? or..?) [00:49] the creation of it is before my time [00:50] * pleia2 needs to wrap up at work [00:50] theres a site i use on my blog.. i forget what it is... [00:50] every time i post to my blog... it posts to twitter and facebook as well. [00:50] maybe we can use this for team news? [00:50] it would just be automatic for anyone subscribed to facebook and twtter accts [00:54] pleia2: historically, the Facebook page was created after we had asked for no further social media accounts to be created without discussion. [00:55] There was never a defined purpose for it, which continues to this day. [00:58] happy valentines day everyone :) [01:08] i could see facebook for now as just another means to connect with people, and with auto updates, it can do the job admirably [01:51] Saxbys ftw [01:52] Sounds expensive [01:59] Not really [01:59] Umm [02:13] * iheartubuntu wishes he got the android [02:14] i have a droid incredible i have a lot of fun with it [02:15] My old school droid is nice and fun to play with. [02:15] iheartubuntu: oh yes, if we can figure out how to make fb auto update that'd be great [02:16] Hey pleia2 you have a few minutes? [02:16] i have to figure out how i did thst :) so do we have a source where news get posted? [02:17] DarkwingDuck: sure [02:17] iheartubuntu: our identi.ca and twitter feeds for the team [02:17] wiki: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/Scale9x edited [02:18] The way I have everything setup is my identi.ca accound auto posts to twitter and twitter auto posts to FB [02:18] let me look into this. so isnt the twitter and other feeds all pretty much the same info? [02:18] if we had a source where weverything goes, then we can have all the same info distrubuted to all thr social sites [02:18] yeah, identi.ca auto-posts to twitter [02:18] no effort needed. [02:19] jono: ping [02:20] my twitter used to go to facebook, but I think it broke [02:20] hasn't been cross posting lately [02:20] I actually have not posted to Twitter in a while. [02:21] ok, the site i use is called twitterfeed.com [02:21] I should start doing that again. [02:22] my cat... http://tinyurl.com/4h6axzy [02:22] MarkDude is pretty well-versed in these tools too [02:24] if we had a site with an RSS feed we can use twitterfeed to post to facebook and twitter [02:25] Posterous.com [02:25] I think both identi.ca and twitter have rss feeds [02:25] easiest way to do it [02:25] ah, there's our social media guru ;) [02:25] MarkDude: can it update the facebook page for the team? [02:25] 2nd easiest is gwibber [02:25] Yes [02:26] cool [02:27] You need to have an admin allow access to the page [02:27] easy enough [02:28] * MarkDude can help someone set it up [02:28] * pleia2 peers at the time [02:29] I'll nudge you tomrrow about it [02:29] need to finish getting ready for dinner [02:35] pleia2 is going for belgian beer someplace? :) [02:38] Good deal [02:39] Thinking of Bierte and JanC while drinking it I hope [02:46] anyone doing anything special tonite? [02:48] Does nethack count? [02:48] whats nethack? [02:50] interesting tidbit: Q4 of 2010 verizon added 900,000 new subscribers. same period, China Mobile added 14 MILLION new subscribers. jeez! [02:54] iheartubuntu: a game that has nothing to do with the net or hacking [02:54] !info nethack-curses [02:54] Package nethack-curses does not exist in [02:54] oh. right. Eureka doesn't do that. [02:54] Bad Eureka [02:54] no cookie for you [02:54] * MarkDude lied, here is a cookie [02:55] is it in the reps? [02:55] a rogue like game? serious?? [02:56] rogue was awesome [02:56] * akk offers "aptitude search nethack" [02:57] iheartubuntu: Yes. There are a number of different interfaces for it though, so you can't just apt-get install nethack, you need to pick one and install its package instead [02:57] http://www.nethack.org/v343/Guidebook.html is useful [02:57] why not rogue? [02:58] for that matter, why not Regnum Online. [03:00] nethack is free software and in the repositories [03:02] I've been poking around at crawl recently, too. crawl or crawl-tiles in the repos. [03:03] r these much diff than rogue? [03:03] i was always fond of rogue. [03:04] one of the first games i played on my brothers IBM back in the 80s [03:04] he paid like $5000 for the comp. haha [03:04] that a pricey game of rogue [03:04] rogue drove me crazy -- people spent incredible amounts of time playing it on the vax at college, and I found it so boring. [03:06] but crawl and nethack look almost identical [03:06] save a few ascii charactrers [03:07] :| [03:07] * iheartubuntu wonders if rww is getting ready for bandwidth control [03:07] :p [03:08] hehe [03:10] rww will you be at scale? [03:10] iheartubuntu: nope [03:10] akk? [03:10] awwww [03:10] dang [03:11] I'm speaking, so yes. [03:11] ohh ok :) [03:11] :) [03:13] wifey is doing a speech on Dell for her audit accounting class right now. [03:15] DarkwingDuck, hey [03:15] I haven't long DarkwingDuck, about to go offline for the evening [03:19] anyone heard of an Apad (android tablet)? [03:19] here it is. $94 bucks... http://tinyurl.com/4zpprrq [03:20] Wow, good price. [03:20] Would be nice to know some details like who makes it, what version of Android etc. [03:20] would be cool to put ubuntu on it :) [03:22] Supposedly a lot of the cheap android tablets have poor battery life, and if it's uncommon it might be hard to do things like root it, get access to the android marketplace etc. [03:22] has a camera, usb, wifi, touch screen. no info on the main specs [03:22] But the hardware sounds cool if you wanted to do some serious reverse engineering and get stuff like ubuntu running on it. [03:23] What's a "T-flash card"? [03:24] 256mb ram [03:24] ARM 11 chip [03:24] 800mhtz processor? [03:24] doesnt sound speedy [03:26] That's what my Archos 5 has ... seems fine for what I do (I don't play a lot of intense action games, though). [03:27] jono: I'll send you an email about it. It will tak e a bigt. [03:27] *bit [03:28] archos 5 uses android? [03:29] DarkwingDuck, np, thanks! [03:29] jono: it's about the community. Us in the Kubuntu side want to start reaching out more. [03:30] The "Archos 5 internet tablet" is Android 1.6. There's an earlier Archos 5 something-with-media-in-the-name that isn't Android. [03:30] jono: and because of my involvment in Locos I was elected to head that up. [03:30] DarkwingDuck, cool, drop me a mail - I have to leg it now, lets talk in a bit :-) [03:30] jono: sounds good. [03:30] thanks, pal! [03:30] have a good night! [03:31] The A5IT has lots of development interest -- you can dual boot Froyo, Angstrom Linux, and I hear people have managed to boot ubuntu and meego too. [03:31] (None of these work well enough for everyday use, though.) [03:34] but ubuntu does have touch screen cababilty? [16:22] MarkDude, when is that thing at saxby's again? [17:08] did anyone watch jeopardy last night? [17:09] My mom did. She said the computer did well and knows a lot about Beatles songs, and she's rooting for it. [17:10] MarkDude, yo [17:10] Ubuntu Global Jam event at Saxby's? [17:10] I am thinking of organizing it on April 1st [17:10] you in? [17:10] im just not sure how people can beat a good database computer [17:12] april fools day jono? [17:12] jamiedmattingly, yeah, that is the first day of the jam :-) [17:12] jamiedmattingly, 1pm [17:13] jamiedmattingly: The computer has lots of data, but it has to be able to parse the question then relate it to all the bits in the database and formulate an answer. [17:13] A nice AI problem. [17:13] thanks MarkDude [17:14] jono yes that sounds like a good deal. [17:14] good point akk [17:14] if its not a aprilo fools joke id love to go [17:14] * MarkDude had to check if it would interfere ILF- it wont [17:15] MarkDude, awesome, I will add the event and announce it [17:16] Good deal- I can tell Deanna to reserve it [17:17] We should make a flier for it- and we can hang it there [17:17] as well as other places [17:21] jono, let me have the link when you are done- I can put it on their FB wall, as well as create an event [17:21] * MarkDude suggests some whale tail logo or sumthin for the flier [17:22] just out of curiosity what is a global jam it sounds fun [17:22] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam [17:23] you all get together and contribute to ubuntu in some way together [17:23] thanks pleia2 [17:23] bugs, testing, translations [17:23] Or in my case, I bring a crappy laptop by so people can mock it [17:24] just wait till you see mine. lol [17:24] last time at Jonos jam, Courtney wondered what the tape was for..... pulled my hard drive out accidentally and it bounced across the floor [17:24] haha [17:25] ok mine isnt that bad just issing a bunch of keys lol' [17:25] I guess she thought the duct tape was just for the hip aesthetics. [17:26] Did the drive still work after bouncing? [17:28] Yes, it did [17:29] 4800 rpm drive or sumthin' [17:29] wow that is impressive you dont see many that survive a fall [17:30] erk, I expired from the ubuntu-us-ca LP team [17:30] jamiedmattingly, let Bethany know what kind of machine it is- and we can include a request for a replacement keyboard from FreeGeek [17:30] can someone approve me? [17:30] I just reapplied [17:30] lol [17:30] jono 1st time took me a few months to be approved joining the Team, 2nd time, a few minutes :D [17:31] :-) [17:31] really? wasnt sure id be able to find one [17:31] Possibly at least [17:31] it is a acer netbook aspire one a0150 [17:31] Their laptop program has so many machines [17:32] who is bethany? [17:32] The way they work with hardware grants is the will take requests- and see if a machine comes by that has the parts [17:33] Bethany is a core volunteer of GidgetKitchen [17:33] cool MarkDude itd be great to have a full keyboard again [17:33] She is handling the hardware drive we are putting together [17:34] pleia2, can you approve me for ubuntu-us-ca in LP? [17:34] GK is getting parts and pieces, taking them and building machines for Partimus and their Linux computer labs [17:34] pleia2, https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-california [17:34] how do i get ahold of bethany? [17:35] jono sort of hard to manage the community when you dont have access - huh? [17:35] MarkDude, heh, yeah [17:35] jono: done [17:35] thanks pleia2! [17:35] She should be there Sat, dont worry I can copypasta it to our master list of requests [17:36] * MarkDude does not know if she will get into IRC or not [17:36] ok cool thanks mark will see you saturday [17:36] March 19th work for folks for a possible geeknic date? [17:37] * MarkDude wants some input and other suggestions before we fully vote on this [17:37] "copypasta" always makes me think of a couple of pieces of rotini linked together then splitting apart to go create other rotini strands [17:44] where at on march 19th? [17:45] MarkDude: sounds good (I have a cousin visiting that weekend, but she isn't staying with me and her brother lives here too, she'll be suitably entertained) [17:47] Ask her opinions on grown men wearing Penguin suits [17:47] :D [17:48] what about penguin style body paint on nudes? [17:48] ! [17:48] Well, it is the bay area. [17:49] weather permitting of course nobody needs shrinkage lol [17:49] * MarkDude is fine with the geese doing so , as long as it is an activity engaged in by the gander also :D [17:50] As long as there is parity, as far as others- we have had a bit of a debate- on what would be considered an ok *sexy penguin* [17:51] Prolly not naked tho, unless it is in Santa Cruz. More likely people wear white t shirts and a black dress shirt unbuttoned [17:52] and possibly red bow-ties (still not sure how that started) [17:52] Penguin-fest-2011 [18:22] pleia2, Bring your cousin? [18:25] jledbetter: she's in town for work + sight-seeing w/ family (it's been a while since she's been to SF), not so much picnics [18:25] Aw :) [18:25] jledbetter, Courtney was not able to make it to the Severed Fifth show since she had an out of town guest [18:26] I guess y'all are better hosts than I am. I drag people along ;) [18:26] And for some reason she kept telling me that her strictly religious friend for some reason did not want to go to a heavy metal concert, go figure [18:26] * MarkDude has zero issue taking hostages, unless it conflicts with their version of God/Goddess/whatever [18:44] Yay, I have a Canonical employee lined up for Ubucon. [18:45] Good deal nhaines [18:46] nhaines: what one? [18:46] nhaines, we are having a meeting at a local Panera, any advice you have would be appreciated :) [18:47] DarkwingDuck: Ted Gould. [18:47] MarkDude: what kind of meeting? [18:49] nhaines: nice. :) How many speakers do you have? [18:50] Lindependence hour, we might do a few hackergotchis, as well as play a board game [18:50] http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=199233233437003 [18:51] So I can put this on the Cali Team event thing? [18:51] DarkwingDuck: I have five confirmed and a sixth which is verifying availability. [18:51] nhaines: Awesome! [18:52] So if the sixth can't make it, I'll just do an open Q&A like I did last time when a speaker couldn't make it. It was wildly successful. [18:52] The very first question, by the annoying guy in the from was "Why does KDE 4 suck so much?" [18:52] LOL [18:52] I repeated the question (over the mic) "That's a good question. The question was, why was the KDE 4 experience less than optimal?" [18:53] I hope to answer that with my talk [18:53] :D [18:53] Then I talked about the KDE4 API transition and how much nicer 4.2 and 4.3 was, and what a great time it was to try it out again if it disappointed a year and a half before. [18:54] DarkwingDuck: two or three people afterward and during SCaLE came up and complimented me on how I addressed and rephrased the question. :D [18:58] The real reason why KDE4 sucked is the same reason why Unity is going to suck. You are trying a new system and there are going to be major bugs and issues. As time moves on the expirence gets beter with new things, tweaks and updates. [18:59] I am NOT looking forward to seeing how the Natty+1 complaints are going to go. [19:04] Hopefully it'll be a solid move in the long run. [19:06] I notice they started reimplementing "system tray" functionality yesterday. Whitelisted to Java, Wine, and Skype. [19:07] nhaines: In the long run it will be good... The only thing I am slightly worried about (And maybe because I'm spoiled) is the lack of upstream support for moving to Unity [19:08] But, then again, I'm spoiled with upstream support [19:16] Unity is its own upstream. :) [19:18] Aye, it is... But then again I enjoyed our UI change upstream. :P:P [19:22] Looks like 39.6% of the daily ISO has changed since Alpha 2. So I'm downloading that now. [19:23] :) [19:23] I'm not yet running Alpha on my production machine. [19:25] Me either, although I'm considering whether or not it's going to be stable enough to have on my laptop (the presentation computer) for Ubucon. [20:05] Looks like a no. :) [20:40] Those that are interested- Geeknic planning meeting in #gidgetkitchen at 7PM (pst) tonight. [20:41] * MarkDude will have an agenda list shortly. Meeting should last less than 15-20 minutes [20:42] Also a call for people to let folks know what good board or card games you may have [20:43] * MarkDude has Perquackey and chess. Monopoly might be cool. Something with Zombies like I saw a while ago would be epic [21:36] Agenda for meeting so far http://pastebin.com/MXJFRHP9 suggestions welcome [21:37] MarkDude: board games for the geeknic? [21:37] * pleia2 thinks monopoly money would fly away in the wind [21:38] Um the Lindependence hour this thursday [21:38] oh ok [21:38] * MarkDude will change that [21:38] thursday is the mt view ubuntu hour too [21:39] (and baylisa) [21:39] aww, baylisa looks good this month [21:39] * MarkDude has egg on face [21:39] * MarkDude fired I tell ya' === phildini_ is now known as phildini [22:08] Well, that's interesting. === dragon1 is now known as dragon [22:58] Updated agenda for tonight in GK http://pastebin.com/4VNM8H8F [22:59] 7pm, or if you have any thought or opinions, let some GK person or myself know :) [23:39] are there any pros or cons of attending a LUG as its not ubuntu specific? [23:40] LUGs++ [23:40] * akk goes to whatever talks sound interesting, who cares whether the group is distro specific or not? [23:40] I used to run the philadelphia one, grantbow still runs one [23:41] i had contacted my local lug many moons ago but never got a response. i notice that the meetings are still listed in various places so im assuming its still active [23:42] Contacted how? The LUGs around here are just mailing lists and monthly meetings. [23:42] by email [23:42] Like any mailing list, if you post something on an interesting topic usually people will respond. [23:43] hhmm. maybe i had tried to join the mailing list and never got a reply. i dont recall. it was months ago [23:43] unless gmail trashed it [23:43] they have been trashing so many of my emails lately [23:44] so going to a meeting is a good thing. and i should go with an open mind, not saying one distro is better than others? [23:44] yeah, maybe you'll learn something :) [23:47] All Linux people are on the same side, iheartubuntu. [23:47] theyre all on my side? [23:47] Nothing wrong with having a favorite distro, but Linuxes are a lot more similar than they are different. [23:47] :)