[01:44] <BiosElement> Awesome
[01:45] <BiosElement> MPEG-LA proved they're just patent trolls, just like the rest.
[01:45] <BiosElement> http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110211/21293913067.shtml
[01:45] <BiosElement> For the quick summary
[01:45] <BiosElement> "That was back in May, and it's taken until February, but MPEG-LA has officially put out a call for patents that cover VP8. That's a pretty clear declaration of war. It's also fairly obnoxious. What sort of organization blatantly says "Company X has released a cool technology to the world, and we're going to find any and all patents that will destroy that?" What an incredibly anti-innovation stance."
[01:46] <BiosElement> ^Someone should link obama, who claims to be asking for legit ideas for fixing the patent system, to that article. >.>
[01:50] <BiosElement> "New reports show that HBGary Federal boss Aaron Barr apparently went so far as to "demonstrate" his ability to intimidate people by using social networking info to dig up information and photos on people's families. "
[01:50] <BiosElement> Wow...
[02:43] <canthus13> BiosElement: Anon has seriously fucked up that dude's life. :)
[02:44] <canthus13> BiosElement: the anons he thought he was gonna expose were apparently stringing him along.
[02:47] <robho-neo> evening all
[02:47] <Cheri703> hola
[02:47] <robho-neo> anyone have a real fast second to address a question?
[02:47] <Cheri703> go for it
[02:48] <robho-neo> thanks :D someone on a time crunch.
[02:48] <robho-neo> I'm running Ubuntu 10.10, Google Chrome as my primary browser (this happens in Firefox too). All my network traffic on this machine slows to a crawl when I'm downloading something
[02:49] <robho-neo> For instance: I'm downloading an iso right now and some of my other network based goodies are crawling
[02:49] <robho-neo> any thoughts?
[02:49] <Cheri703> bandwidth issue most likely
[02:50] <robho-neo> my thoughts as well
[02:50] <robho-neo> however
[02:50] <robho-neo> I didn't have this kind of slowing when I had Windows 7 Pro on here
[02:50] <robho-neo> and I only noticed it recently
[02:50] <Cheri703> well, it can be about how many peers are connected, not just download speed
[02:51] <Cheri703> if you have 300 peers, even if it's only going 2kb, it's going to slow you down
[02:51] <robho-neo> we're talking like, running 5 torrents at once and trying to stream pandora and surf at the same time slow
[02:51] <Cheri703> yeah...what's your internet speed?
[02:51] <robho-neo> I'm just downloading an ubuntu iso from the site and have WoW in the background
[02:51] <robho-neo> 3meg is what I pay for, 2.3 is what I get
[02:52] <robho-neo> per speedtest.net
[02:52] <robho-neo> dsl
[02:52] <Cheri703> try limiting number of peers, see what you get
[02:52] <robho-neo> can you do that in chrome on an http download?
[02:53] <Cheri703> oh, nvm, I was thinking torrent... sorry
[02:53]  * Cheri703 is distracted
[02:53] <robho-neo> hehe no problem
[02:53] <robho-neo> understood
[02:53] <Cheri703> canthus13: you're internet guy, any thoughts on this?
[02:53] <robho-neo> I didn't know if it was something I had configured wrong or if this was something others have noticed on Ubuntu 10.x
[02:54] <robho-neo> because it happened in 10.04 as well
[02:54] <canthus13> Sure. WoW could be downloading.... ISP could be resetting the connections...
[02:54] <robho-neo> happens during other times of the day and it's not just isolated to WoW
[02:54] <canthus13> robho-neo: your ISP could be resetting the torrents. do you have problems with WoW updates as well?
[02:55] <robho-neo> WoW updates are not a problem, and it's not a torrent we're dealing with
[02:55] <Cheri703> canthus13: I think this is a normal download, not a torrent
[02:55] <robho-neo> yeah, it's just a .iso from the ubuntu site, downloading inside of Chrome
[02:55] <robho-neo> it happens in Firefox as well
[02:55] <robho-neo> and Opera
[02:55] <canthus13> Server issue, then, maybe.. try a torrent instead?
[02:55] <robho-neo> the download itself is running swimmingly
[02:55] <robho-neo> the rest of my internet traffic is crawling
[02:56] <robho-neo> web browsing, music streaming, etc
[02:56] <robho-neo> and it doesn't change until I either complete or cancel the download
[02:56] <canthus13> Ah. What's your upload speed?
[02:57] <robho-neo> as I recall i'm 3M/768k
[02:57] <canthus13> 768 is plenty to keep from locking you up.
[02:57] <canthus13> Umm..
[02:58] <canthus13> Cable or DSL?
[02:58] <robho-neo> Verizon DSL
[02:58] <canthus13> Do you have a router?
[02:58] <robho-neo> I do, but this machine goes to a switch and then the modem
[02:58] <robho-neo> I've tried multiple configurations
[02:58] <robho-neo> I even went straight to the modem
[02:59] <canthus13> Hmm. Does it do it on any other machines?
[02:59] <robho-neo> this is the only machine that seems to be affected in this way, my netbook w/ Linux Mint on it works just fine with downloads and browsing, and the one Windows 7 machine we have is fine as well
[02:59] <canthus13> Ok.
[02:59] <robho-neo> I anticipated that question :P
[02:59] <canthus13> Weird.
[03:00] <robho-neo> and as I told Cheri, when this machine at WIndows 7 on it, it was fine as well
[03:00] <robho-neo> it's just since Ubuntu 10.04+ that it's been odd
[03:00] <canthus13> Hmm. I've been avoiding 10.04 specifically because of wireless issues.
[03:01] <canthus13> Try disabling IPv6.
[03:01] <robho-neo> Hardwired all the way, does have a wireless card but I haven't felt the need to use it since I'm 3 feet from the router/modem/switch
[03:01] <robho-neo> IPv6 disabled (saw that on the ubuntu forums)
[03:01] <robho-neo> I'm kind of at a loss
[03:03] <robho-neo> I've tried static addressing / DHCP to see if maybe it was an issue with how the system was handling dynamic addressing and it didn't seem to change anything
[03:05] <robho-neo> with this download and WoW up I went to speedtest and ran it, got 2.72Mb/s by .67 Mb/s
[03:05] <robho-neo> I see no definitive reason I should be getting page rendering lag and general system slowness
[03:06] <canthus13> It's definitely weird.
[03:06] <robho-neo> The OS itself is snappy.. getting around the Apps/Places/System menus is fine
[03:07] <canthus13> But yeah. the only thing left is something in the OS itself.. maybe something weird in the TCP/IP stack.
[03:07] <robho-neo> but say I try to open firefox/pidgin/transmission/etc it's sloooowww
[03:07] <robho-neo> so perhaps it's only a perception that it is network related
[03:08] <canthus13> Hmm.. I wonder if that's the reason for the oddball wireless issues my wife has on 10.04... Google chat dropping, skype dying... and yet ssh is fine.
[03:08] <robho-neo> odd
[03:09] <robho-neo> it's almost as if TCP/IP traffic hijacks the CPU
[03:09] <canthus13> run conky and see how the CPU does.
[03:10] <robho-neo> ok
[03:10] <BiosElement> Hmm
[03:10] <BiosElement> Random question for folks here.
[03:10]  * canthus13 has random answers. :)
[03:10] <robho-neo> go for it, since we're all on the random question of the night it seems
[03:11] <canthus13> and just plain dumb answers. :)
[03:11] <robho-neo> that too :P
[03:11] <BiosElement> When following blogs, is it true to say that you generally like blogs that focus on a single general topic? Like dogs, css styling, etc?
[03:11] <canthus13> Depends.s
[03:11] <canthus13> but yeah, usually.
[03:12] <robho-neo> the only blogs I tentatively keep track of are FLOSS blogs
[03:12] <robho-neo> and I only look at them when I've run out of other things to read, lol
[03:12] <BiosElement> Yeah, well FLOSS is a topic, albiet a broad one.
[03:12] <BiosElement> I'm brainstorming ways to renew blogs to make them actually useful heh
[03:12]  * canthus13 doesn't really follow blogs, though. Other than xkcd.
[03:12] <canthus13> I've tried to use a feed reader, but it's too time-consuming.
[03:13] <Unit193> xkcd wins!! I randomly look at linuxjournal.com
[03:13] <BiosElement> canthus13: What if you went to myfeeds.example and had all your favorite sites there? Like a favorite system
[03:13]  * BiosElement just has random ideas
[03:13] <canthus13> BiosElement: I tried Liferea, no go. I forget about it, then I have a bazillion articles when I look again.
[03:14] <BiosElement> canthus13: Yeah, I was referring to a web-based system.
[03:14] <canthus13> My attention span is more stumbleupon-oriented.
[03:14] <BiosElement> Like stumbleupon
[03:15] <robho-neo> ok, so I have Conky running, just 1 tab in Chrome, and the download. 846MB/3.87GB memory usage, 180 processes, 5% CPU usage
[03:15] <robho-neo> network is rocking out at 10k up / 354K down
[03:16] <robho-neo> CPU usage bouncing from 1%-8%
[03:17] <robho-neo> network usage remaining fairly steady
[03:17] <robho-neo> i'm at a loss
[03:18] <Unit193> Does it happen on a LiveCD?
[03:18] <BiosElement> Hey guys, I have a tip for you
[03:18] <BiosElement> If you start a F/OSS project
[03:18] <BiosElement> Don't then go writing in your FAQ about how the EXISTING 'WORKING" F/OSS systems are "delusional, utopian undertakings that seek to overthrow proprietary platforms by simply writing software"
[03:18] <BiosElement> Per http://www.thimbl.net/faq.html
[03:19] <robho-neo> Unit193: Didn't think about trying it on a LiveCD
[03:19] <robho-neo> BiosElement: Agreed.
[03:19] <robho-neo> it's not about overthrowing proprietary platforms, it's about allowing people to choose.
[03:20] <robho-neo> sounds like FUD to me
[03:20] <BiosElement> It is, as is that project.
[03:20] <BiosElement> They have a snappy design, but that's all they have
[03:20] <TheErk> Howdy folks
[03:20] <robho-neo> Hey TheErk
[03:20] <BiosElement> I wonder if we have many python devs in the loco >.>
[03:21] <BiosElement> It'd be cool to do loco projects haha
[03:21] <robho-neo> I've dabbled in the 3 plagues
[03:21] <robho-neo> that would be Python, Ruby, and Perl if you didn't know
[03:21] <BiosElement> lol, Ruby and perl are plagues, python is da bomb. ;)
[03:21] <BiosElement> Wait wait
[03:21] <robho-neo> ah yes, the war has begun
[03:21] <BiosElement> no, Perl and mono are plagues.
[03:21] <BiosElement> Ruby is just annoying
[03:21]  * BiosElement hides
[03:22] <robho-neo> each has their place
[03:22] <robho-neo> each has their use
[03:22] <robho-neo> much like OSes
[03:22] <BiosElement> Mono has their place in microsoft's lab. >.< I just don't see the point in using a single language with known patent threats.
[03:23] <robho-neo> fair enough.
[03:23] <BiosElement> Technically mono is awesome, I've looked over it. But then so are lots of languages. >.<
[03:23] <robho-neo> Well, I'm going to try some "outside the box" troubleshooting on this issue and I'll get back to you guys with what I find
[03:23] <BiosElement> Good luck with that robho-neo
[03:23] <robho-neo> I really should just change my damned nick
[03:24] <robho-neo> ah well, another time perhaps.
[03:24] <robho-neo> anyway, enjoy your evening folks
[06:15] <BiosElement> Hah wow
[06:16] <BiosElement> Nokia sells out to Microsoft, Nokia stock drops by 15% and Microsofts stock drops with it, while Apple and Google stock rises. Maybe microsoft could take the hint...
[07:14] <Cheri703> working on client's computer, she pays for norton antivirus, currently scanning with super anti spyware: 454 threats detected, 324 are adware tracking cookies, but it includes rootkits and various other things...hooray!
[07:16] <Unit193> Norton AntiVirus = NAV = No AV...
[07:16] <BiosElement> Nah
[07:16] <BiosElement> Norton does a good job
[07:16] <BiosElement> Better then McAfee anyway
[07:17] <Unit193> Makes your quad core run like a single...
[07:17] <Cheri703> it just amazes me that people think they're invincible because they pay for one program...and then download stupid flash games to play -_-
[07:18] <BiosElement> Not really
[07:18] <BiosElement> And yeah
[07:19] <Cheri703> I always install SAS and tell them to run a scan weekly, I'm pretty sure no one does -_-
[07:23] <Cheri703> so how are things in columbus BiosElement?
[07:23] <BiosElement> Ahh, pretty good. Icy but good. As for me, working up my report on Ohayocon 2011 hah
[07:23] <Cheri703> nice, someone I know goes to ohayocon I think...
[07:23] <Cheri703> dunno if he did this year
[07:24] <BiosElement> Heh, I had an amazing time
[07:24] <Cheri703> Ren Driver...sound familiar at all?
[07:24] <BiosElement> Actually does, although I'm horrid with names
[07:25] <BiosElement> I'm the asshat who spends an entire day with someone and goes "Hmm, what's your name again?" >.>
[07:25] <Cheri703> heh
[07:25] <BiosElement> If you're curious...
[07:25] <BiosElement> I have only redeye corrected photos here: http://www.facebook.com/album.php?id=1388281165&aid=2116066
[07:25] <Cheri703> I remember him telling me about his participation, but it was a while ago
[07:25] <BiosElement> Cleaned up awesome photos here: http://bioselement.deviantart.com/
[07:26] <BiosElement> My draft blog post about it: http://bioselement.com/article/2011/ohayocon-2011
[07:26] <BiosElement> Gah hangon
[07:26] <BiosElement> First link was the wrong one
[07:26] <BiosElement> http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2116066&id=1388281165&l=f74b364619
[07:26] <BiosElement> THERE
[07:26] <BiosElement> Darn fb's system heh
[07:29] <Cheri703> nice! looks like fun
[07:29] <Cheri703> did you dress up? (looked at thumbnails only)
[07:30] <BiosElement> Ahaha, yeah. I actually found some half-decent photos of me, hangon. I did take a simple cosplay for starters though heh
[07:36] <BiosElement> Cheri703: http://drinian.org/images/gallery/v/cons/ohayocon2011/2D/dscf0456-left.jpg.html
[07:36] <BiosElement> Second from the right
[07:36] <Cheri703> that's cool, you look like you're having fun :)
[07:37] <BiosElement> I was totally hyper for that shoot.
[07:40] <BiosElement> It was my first photoshoot, and first con cosplaying, on the first day, so yeah haha.
[18:33] <thafreak> Wow, what's up with the netsplits?
[18:36] <BiosElement> Server fail heh
[18:46] <thafreak> I'm finally reading about the guy who went after anonymous
[18:46] <thafreak> makes me think I need to anonomize my irc usage a bit more
[20:55] <Cheri703> one of my best friends on the whole internet: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/resetwindowspassword/
[20:57] <BiosElement> Hah
[20:58] <Cheri703> use it ALL THE TIME for client computers...or on old ones people give me
[20:59] <Unit193> LiveCD for that: http://pogostick.net/~pnh/ntpasswd/
[20:59] <Cheri703> one of the comments on the post: "I… I think I love you. This, along with the older version you were kind enough to supply a link to, covered all the bases needed to solve my remaining “trying-to-get-this-damn-thing-booted” problems. So far, Ubuntu has been the answer every time! Thank you for supply this new Ubuntu user with the warm, fuzzy feeling of a supportive open community (and an excellent solution to her problems).
[20:59] <Cheri703> :)"
[21:00] <Cheri703> I just keep the file saved and move it over on a flash drive
[21:01] <Cheri703> I was amused by the "I...I think I love you"
[21:03] <Unit193> bad thing about putty: don't accidently right click!
[22:01] <canthus13> Unit193: You can fix the mouse behavior in putty.
[22:01] <canthus13> it's in the options somewhere.
[22:02] <Unit193> I found it too late...
[22:02] <canthus13> Heh.
[22:02] <Unit193> Thanks
[22:02] <canthus13> no prob.
[22:03] <Unit193> Yeah... sent a long message (An email was in the clipboard)
[22:06] <canthus13> Heh. I used to accidentally drop crap in irc all the time.. gets pretty annoying.
[22:12] <Unit193> My KVM sends stuff when I switch comps. One time I sent bbb a PM with all the officers in the 4-H club...
[22:38] <canthus13> Unit193: Heh. awesome. :)
[23:12] <Unit193> Any/everyone use Identi.ca? if so why?
[23:15] <BiosElement> I use it, mostly for the good F/OSS chatter.
[23:15] <BiosElement> But I also use twitter heh
[23:22] <Unit193> Difference? (I know one is OpenSource)
[23:28] <canthus13> Unit193: identi.ca has a higher concentration of people who whine about stuff not being open source. :P
[23:28] <canthus13> Aside from that, not much other than twitter is waaaay more popular.