[00:18] <ScottL> ailo_at, tonight i'm going to download the latest ubuntu studio iso and install it on my spare computer (the ones that was balking with the latest kernel) and see if it fails at sofware install again
[00:19] <ScottL> ailo_at, can you help me find the proper logs if it fails again?
[00:22] <ailo_at> ScottL: I don't know where install logs are saved. Do you?
[00:25] <ailo_at> ScottL: /var/log/installer/*. I guess that is the place to look. I will look into it as well.
[00:46] <ScottL> ailo_at, yeah, in the shower i realized that you could look also
[00:46] <ScottL> i get so egocentric about accomplishing things sometimes :/
[00:56] <ailo_at> paultag: ping
[00:56] <paultag> ailo_at: pong
[00:57] <ailo_at> paultag: I pushed my initial version of ubuntustudio-controls to gitorious. Would you like to work on it from there?
[00:58] <paultag> one sec ailo_at 
[00:58] <ailo_at> So far it only inits the glade file
[01:06] <paultag> ailo_at: sorry, had to help someone in the lab
[01:07] <paultag> ailo_at: I'll check it out and merge it :)
[01:07] <paultag> ailo_at: send me the URL, if you don't mind
[01:08] <ailo_at> paultag: Which is better, merging, or creating a team of 2, where the code would be owned by the team?
[01:10] <ailo_at> paultag: git://gitorious.org/ubuntustudio-controls/ubuntustudio-controls.git
[01:12] <scott-upstairs> heh, downloading the iso image and alessio's kernel at the same time doesn't get things done fast
[01:12] <scott-upstairs> ailo_at, how do i get alessio's meta files as well?
[01:12] <scott-upstairs> can i browse the git repo to find it with firefox?
[01:13] <ailo_at> scott-stairs: You can google it, but let me help you with the url (loading slow)
[01:14] <ailo_at> scott-stairs: Youll see aboganis git repos at the top of the list http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git
[01:14] <ailo_at> Here's the meta: git://kernel.ubuntu.com/abogani/ubuntu-natty-meta-lowlatency.git
[01:17] <ailo_at> paultag: Another way would be for me to add your ssh key to the repo. Which ever way you want.
[01:21] <scott-upstairs> heh, WAY easier than i thought it would be find the meta file, thanks ailo_at  :)
[01:22] <ailo_at> paultag: No, better with either a team, or you request to merge. (just looking at the options since this is new to me still).
[01:57] <ailo_at> scott-upstairs: Was the video issue resolved before alpha2?
[01:58] <ailo_at> tasksel video, that is
[02:01] <ScottL> ailo_at, i believe it was
[02:03] <ailo_at> ScottL: It failed for me when installing from Alpha2 just now.
[02:40] <scott-upstairs> ailo_at, can you get to any logs?
[02:41] <scott-upstairs> was it during software install?
[02:41] <scott-upstairs> hi JamesHarrison !
[02:41] <JamesHarrison> Hi
[02:41] <ailo_at> scott-upstairs: Looking for them now. It was when installing from scratch. Video tasksel won't work.
[02:52] <ailo_at> scott-upstairs: In /var/log/installer/syslog was a record of the whole installation, but nothing about the failure to install ubuntustudio-video
[03:03] <ailo_at> scott-upstairs: But installing the video tasksel from synaptic after logging in for the first time works. What is different when installing from scratch?
[03:05] <ScottL> ailo_at, hmmmm, that's very strange, innit?
[03:05] <ScottL> maybe we need an idea from persia , TheMuso , paultag , or maybe #ubuntu-motu to sort this out
[03:06] <ailo_at> ScottL: We need some sort of log, I think. But I don't see any in /var/log that makes any sense. 
[03:06] <ailo_at> Tried to find the string "ubuntustudio-video" in any log that seemed relevant. Didn't find it anywhere
[03:10] <ailo_at> Time for me to get horizontal..
[03:26] <ScottL> night ailo_at 
[04:37] <persia> Best is to file a bug with `ubuntu-bug debian-installer` and ask about it in #ubuntu-installer
[04:37] <persia> That should collate all the logs into the bug, and notify the people who know about these things (including two of those highlighted above)
[08:20] <abogani> ailo_at: ping
[11:21] <ailo_at> abogani: pong
[11:21] <abogani> ailo_at: Could you test also the -2-lowlatency release, please?
[11:21] <ailo_at> abogani: sure.
[11:22] <abogani> ailo_at: I want let you known that I really appreciated your work on low latency kernel testing.
[11:22] <ailo_at> abogani: np. It is very interesting for me to know this as well.
[14:48]  * abogani is wondering about what ASIO is...
[14:54] <AutoStatic> All your Sound Is Ours!
[15:00] <abogani> A Windows user requested me if Linux need ASIO drivers like Windows :-?
[15:01] <holstein> JACK doenst do that
[15:01] <holstein> AFAIK
[15:02] <holstein> maybe its some funky device 
[15:08] <AutoStatic> Linux doesn't need ASIO drivers
[15:08] <AutoStatic> ALSA can handle very low latencies
[15:08] <AutoStatic> Just like FFADO
[15:10] <holstein> yeah, maybe its a device that alsa doesnt support
[15:11] <holstein> more likely, the user hasnt tried it ;)
[15:12] <AutoStatic> But ASIO drivers are the low latency drivers for Windows
[15:30] <abogani> AutoStatic: Ahhhhh 
[15:30] <abogani> I understand thanks!
[15:34] <AutoStatic> :)
[15:34] <AutoStatic> you're welcome
[16:16] <scott-work> persia: just to be clear, if the installer fails (with red screen) during the software installation, i can go back to the menu and return to software installation and unselect the video package (presuming this is the problem)
[16:16] <scott-work> persia: which then i would expect the installer to complete (as per ailo's experiences)
[16:16] <scott-work> persia: after that installation i can run the `ubuntu-bug debian-installer` and file the bug?
[16:17] <scott-work> persia: and it will still collect the proper information?
[16:17] <scott-work> i just want to make sure i'm doing the right thing to get this fixed
[16:29] <scott-work> abogani: i downloaded your kernel as requested
[16:32] <scott-work> abogani: what should i do next? :)
[18:31] <scott-work> wow, weird channel split
[18:31] <scott-work> abogani: did you see my previous messages?
[18:38] <ailo_at> abogani: I added a new set of results for all the kernels. I'm not happy about the tests - too short and simple. I tried hard to make 2.6.38-2 to produce xruns to make sure 2.6.38-3 xruns were only by chance. 
[18:39] <scott-work> sorry if i'm spamming the channel but i've been having weird connectivity issues all morning
[18:39] <scott-work> abogani: did you see my messages?
[18:39] <scott-work> persia: did you by change see my questions?
[18:39] <scott-work> hi ailo_at 
[18:39] <ailo_at> hi scott-work. I've been offline for a little while..
[20:30] <Ricardus> hi
[21:43] <ailo_at> Just had a couple of xruns on 2.6.38-2. I'm not confident about my test results at all right now. We need better ways to test the kernels.
[23:52] <ailo_at> paultag: ping