| MindWarper | hi folks | 00:51 |
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| jono | did the fix to the slow scrolling land in Natty? | 03:03 |
| MacSlow | hey everybody | 07:51 |
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| didrocks | good morning | 08:00 |
| MacSlow | hey murrayc | 08:06 |
| murrayc | MacSlow: hi | 08:10 |
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| smspilla2 | morning #ayatana | 08:46 |
| RAOF | smspilla2: You seem to be duplicated. :) | 08:48 |
| RAOF | Also, where are you that this is morning? | 08:48 |
| smspilla2 | RAOF: oh, just saying good morning to all the people in europe :p | 08:48 |
| RAOF | Ah. You haven't just flown merrily away to Europe :) | 08:48 |
| smspilla2 | I wish I could :) | 08:48 |
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| tjaalton | hey, have you noticed that middlemouse-emulation is off by default in natty? (re: bug 709707) | 10:39 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 709707 in unity (Ubuntu) "Middle click on application icon should open a new window" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/709707 | 10:39 |
| tjaalton | hmm, quiet | 11:02 |
| klattimer | tjaalton: maybe tooo quiet | 11:14 |
| tjaalton | klattimer: yeah, well I replied to the bug so I bet the issue (if it even is one) will get noticed :) | 11:15 |
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| ogra | didrocks, poke | 16:48 |
| didrocks | ogra: hey hey | 16:49 |
| ogra | didrocks, after switching our images to new unity i seem to end up with the default gnome icons | 16:49 |
| ogra | where did the defaults move for the desktop image (i dropped ubuntu-netbook-default-settings indeed) | 16:49 |
| ogra | i even got the gnome default icons in gdm | 16:51 |
| didrocks | ogra: yeah, there is a bug about that | 16:51 |
| ogra | ah, -desktop as affected too ? | 16:51 |
| didrocks | ogra: right, let me look for it | 16:51 |
| ogra | i thought it was me missing something after the switch to unity-2d | 16:51 |
| didrocks | bug #719861 | 16:51 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 719861 in gdk-pixbuf (Ubuntu) "After installation icon theme default to gnome-icon-theme and cannot be changed" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/719861 | 16:52 |
| ogra | i definitely see the humanity icon theme in my manifest | 16:52 |
| didrocks | yeah, the bug explains the causes, not unity related :) | 16:52 |
| * ogra goes reading | 16:52 | |
| ogra | didrocks, thanks ! | 16:53 |
| didrocks | ogra: yw :) | 16:53 |
| and471 | kvalo, heya, just working on the glade stuff for i-n, what is the ...ss tab meant to say? | 16:57 |
| boulabiar | is there any libdbus-1 expert here to ask him about private connections ? | 16:59 |
| kvalo | and471: hi | 16:59 |
| kvalo | and471: wireless :) | 16:59 |
| kvalo | and471: and thanks for doing that! I'm not the best of friends with glade yet | 17:00 |
| and471 | kvalo, cool thanks | 17:00 |
| and471 | kvalo, and don't worry about glade :) | 17:00 |
| and471 | when I started learning how to use it, I also found it difficult | 17:01 |
| and471 | it seemsed it was a lot easier to make ugly things than pretty things XD | 17:01 |
| and471 | *seemed | 17:01 |
| kvalo | and471: btw, I didn't find an easy way to hide some of the tabs. for example, wireless and cellular tab should be hidden with wired connections etc | 17:01 |
| kvalo | I'm exactly in that phase :) | 17:01 |
| kvalo | but glade+vala totally rocks | 17:02 |
| and471 | yup :) | 17:02 |
| and471 | kvalo, did you try hiding the page widget? | 17:02 |
| kvalo | nope, I didn't try that | 17:02 |
| and471 | kvalo, i.e. for the wireless tab, it would be alignment2.hide() | 17:03 |
| and471 | kvalo, i don't know whether it will work but worth a try :) | 17:03 |
| kvalo | cool, I'll try that | 17:03 |
| kvalo | thanks | 17:03 |
| and471 | kvalo, also about the things like name and stuff | 17:03 |
| and471 | kvalo, I was thinking about whether these should be in Gtk.Entries | 17:03 |
| and471 | even though they are not editable | 17:03 |
| and471 | maybe I should ask mpt | 17:04 |
| kvalo | now that you mention it it makes sense | 17:04 |
| and471 | I just feel it looks better if all things on the right are in entries | 17:04 |
| kvalo | I agree | 17:04 |
| and471 | however from a usability side, I don't know whether it is good | 17:04 |
| mpt | O_o | 17:04 |
| * and471 didn't see mpt in here :) | 17:04 | |
| and471 | mpt, gimee a sec | 17:05 |
| mpt | k | 17:05 |
| and471 | mpt, okay so for the edit connection dialog, we have something like this http://imgur.com/wxqIU | 17:05 |
| and471 | mpt, and for mode and security, those won't ever be editable (AFAIK, kvalo can so confirm this) | 17:06 |
| kvalo | and471: correct | 17:06 |
| mpt | and471, ok, please don't put them into text fields | 17:06 |
| mpt | It's perfectly fine for read-only values to be ordinary text | 17:06 |
| and471 | oh okay | 17:06 |
| and471 | I just felt it looked a bit better | 17:06 |
| and471 | mpt, so is a gtk.entry that isn't editable a bad ui practice in this case? | 17:07 |
| and471 | bbiab | 17:08 |
| mpt | and471, yes. Putting something in an insensitive text field suggests that there is some situation where the field will become sensitive. | 17:08 |
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| and471 | mpt, even if it isn't insensitive, but not editable? | 17:18 |
| mpt | and471, I don't understand the distinction | 17:18 |
| and471 | mpt, so insensitive is done with widget.set_sensitive(false) | 17:19 |
| and471 | it is 'greyed out' | 17:19 |
| and471 | and user can't interact with it | 17:19 |
| mpt | and471, so if it's sensitive but not editable, you can select the text? | 17:19 |
| and471 | mpt, however gtk.entry's can also not be editable | 17:19 |
| and471 | mpt, so user can interact with it, highlight the text etc., but not able to change the text in the entry | 17:19 |
| and471 | mpt, correct | 17:20 |
| mpt | and471, if you want to make the text selectable (which is reasonable), you can do that just for a label. It doesn't need to be a gtk.entry for that. | 17:20 |
| and471 | mpt, yeah, I guess the reason I thought it looked better is consistency of appearance | 17:20 |
| mpt | and471, I think obviousness of purpose trumps appearance in this case. It's a settings window, so it needs to be elegant but extreme beauty isn't required. | 17:21 |
| and471 | okay | 17:22 |
| mpt | thanks | 17:22 |
| and471 | thanks for your help mpt | 17:22 |
| mpt | np | 17:22 |
| nerochiaro | njpatel: is there any documentation for the DBUS API for counters and progress on the launcher ? | 17:23 |
| and471 | mpt, one last thing, for this edit connection dialog, we have labels on the left, with what the data on the right represents | 17:24 |
| and471 | mpt, should these be bold? | 17:24 |
| kvalo | and471: I need to pop out. will be back in an hour or so | 17:26 |
| and471 | ok, see ya | 17:26 |
| mpt | and471, no, normal text for both | 17:27 |
| and471 | k | 17:27 |
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| njpatel | nerochiaro, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/LauncherAPI but really you should be using libunity if you can as the API will change | 17:36 |
| nerochiaro | njpatel: right, but the code in there isn't the most readable for someone who's approaching that API for the first time | 17:37 |
| nerochiaro | njpatel: so that doc is helping a lot | 17:38 |
| nerochiaro | njpatel: then i'll use the code for the details | 17:38 |
| njpatel | nerochiaro, makes sense, if you have suggestions please let kamstrup know when he's online, he's trying to get the docs working properly but having issues with vala | 17:46 |
| nerochiaro | njpatel: ok, thanks | 17:46 |
| nerochiaro | njpatel: the doc mentions that there's a special DBUS rule that routes to unity all the signals from the LauncherEntries. but how's that rule created and by what ? | 18:20 |
| jcastro | nerochiaro: also feel free to update the wiki page if you find something that needs to be clarified. | 18:21 |
| nerochiaro | jcastro: ok. i'll update the page with the answers i get | 18:21 |
| jcastro | nerochiaro: what app out of curiosity? | 18:22 |
| nerochiaro | jcastro: i'm working on unity2d actually | 18:22 |
| jcastro | ah | 18:22 |
| nerochiaro | jcastro: wouldn't care too much about the DBus protocol otherwise ;) | 18:22 |
| jcastro | heh | 18:23 |
| nerochiaro | also, i'm trying to build libunity on natty and on configure i get this: "error: failed. Please install the package 'gobject-introspection' in order to compile libunity" -- but i have that package already installed | 18:41 |
| tareth | DBO, are you busy? | 19:28 |
| DBO | tareth, whats up buddy | 19:29 |
| tareth | DBO, https://code.launchpad.net/~mrasmus/unity/fix-718886/+merge/50035 | 19:29 |
| spikeb | i was going to file bugs after i upgraded to natty on my netbook, but i haven't really run into any, other than a few well known ones. | 19:30 |
| DBO | tareth, do you know why chromium slips by? :) | 19:30 |
| DBO | I mean I am just curious mostly | 19:30 |
| tareth | DBO, when we're checking for it in PluginAdapter::MaximizeIfBigEnough it isn't actually marked as maximized, and its width/height are what you would expect if it were windowed | 19:32 |
| tareth | So I'm guessing it "remembers" that it's supposed to be maximized a bit later | 19:32 |
| DBO | tareth, makes sense | 19:32 |
| DBO | I will approve the merge as soon as my system is in a sane state again (you caught me in the middle of debugging XDND) | 19:33 |
| tareth | No rush! :) Thanks! | 19:33 |
| jcastro | lamlex: mind if I add some bitesize bits on UnityFilingBugs? | 20:16 |
| lamlex | jcastro: not at all | 20:16 |
| lamlex | go crazy | 20:16 |
| jcastro | great job on this btw | 20:16 |
| lamlex | well i've got nothing more interesting to do while nvidia is still broken :P | 20:17 |
| DBO | oh my fuck yes it worked | 20:18 |
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| bcurtiswx | DBO, what did? | 20:24 |
| DBO | I dropped something from nux | 20:24 |
| DBO | it communicated with another process... | 20:24 |
| DBO | whats been described as "the seediest part of X11" is now my bitch | 20:24 |
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| ecinx3 | hello. I've restarted my computer and now I don't have any taskbar, and don't know how to get to the terminal either | 22:31 |
| boulabiar | ecinx3, killall gnome-panel | 22:59 |
| ecinx3 | I ran that | 23:02 |
| ecinx3 | gnome-panel: no process found | 23:03 |
| ecinx3 | by the way, is there docs for utouch? so i can see what works and what is broken to report? | 23:04 |
| ecinx3 | I have captive touch, and wacom pen input on the same screen | 23:05 |
| ecinx3 | only two fingers at a time though | 23:05 |
| Daekdroom | ecinx3, boulabiar, unity does not use gnome-panel, try 'compiz --replace' instead | 23:05 |
| * boulabiar is using gnome during these days | 23:06 | |
| Daekdroom | boulabiar, well, this is the channel that has unity support, afaik, i'd expect questions about unity | 23:07 |
| ecinx3 | lol compviz --replace made my screen blink | 23:08 |
| boulabiar | ecinx3, wacom only supports 2 max, you can ask in ubuntu-touch to get more feedback | 23:08 |
| ecinx3 | I don' know if wacom made the screen persay | 23:08 |
| ecinx3 | it has wacom penabled tech | 23:09 |
| ecinx3 | which is patented , and maybe licensed | 23:09 |
| ecinx3 | in otherwords touch and pen are not mutually inclusive | 23:11 |
| ecinx3 | Daekdroom: it said Backend: gconf Integration: true Profile defualt .. Adding plugins | 23:15 |
| ecinx3 | init ******.... done about 20 lines worth | 23:15 |
| ecinx3 | then setting update " run_commmand terminal key and fullscreen visual bell | 23:16 |
| * spikeb still doesn't know what to make of the launcher's intellihide | 23:18 | |
| ecinx3 | how do i get to the launcher | 23:18 |
| ecinx3 | : | 23:18 |
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