[00:51] hi folks === ogra_ is now known as ogra === kenvandine_ is now known as kenvandine [03:03] did the fix to the slow scrolling land in Natty? [07:51] hey everybody === gabon_ is now known as gabon [08:00] good morning [08:06] hey murrayc [08:10] MacSlow: hi === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|afk === gabon_ is now known as gabon [08:46] morning #ayatana [08:48] smspilla2: You seem to be duplicated. :) [08:48] Also, where are you that this is morning? [08:48] RAOF: oh, just saying good morning to all the people in europe :p [08:48] Ah. You haven't just flown merrily away to Europe :) [08:48] I wish I could :) === smspilla2 is now known as smspilla10 === smspilla10 is now known as smspilla10000 === smspilla10000 is now known as smspillaz === API is now known as Guest90094 === MacSlow|afk is now known as MacSlow [10:39] hey, have you noticed that middlemouse-emulation is off by default in natty? (re: bug 709707) [10:39] Launchpad bug 709707 in unity (Ubuntu) "Middle click on application icon should open a new window" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/709707 [11:02] hmm, quiet [11:14] tjaalton: maybe tooo quiet [11:15] klattimer: yeah, well I replied to the bug so I bet the issue (if it even is one) will get noticed :) === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch === Artir_ is now known as Artir === Artir_ is now known as Artir === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley === hggdh_ is now known as hggdh === SCone is now known as jmscone [16:48] didrocks, poke [16:49] ogra: hey hey [16:49] didrocks, after switching our images to new unity i seem to end up with the default gnome icons [16:49] where did the defaults move for the desktop image (i dropped ubuntu-netbook-default-settings indeed) [16:51] i even got the gnome default icons in gdm [16:51] ogra: yeah, there is a bug about that [16:51] ah, -desktop as affected too ? [16:51] ogra: right, let me look for it [16:51] i thought it was me missing something after the switch to unity-2d [16:51] bug #719861 [16:52] Launchpad bug 719861 in gdk-pixbuf (Ubuntu) "After installation icon theme default to gnome-icon-theme and cannot be changed" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/719861 [16:52] i definitely see the humanity icon theme in my manifest [16:52] yeah, the bug explains the causes, not unity related :) [16:52] * ogra goes reading [16:53] didrocks, thanks ! [16:53] ogra: yw :) [16:57] kvalo, heya, just working on the glade stuff for i-n, what is the ...ss tab meant to say? [16:59] is there any libdbus-1 expert here to ask him about private connections ? [16:59] and471: hi [16:59] and471: wireless :) [17:00] and471: and thanks for doing that! I'm not the best of friends with glade yet [17:00] kvalo, cool thanks [17:00] kvalo, and don't worry about glade :) [17:01] when I started learning how to use it, I also found it difficult [17:01] it seemsed it was a lot easier to make ugly things than pretty things XD [17:01] *seemed [17:01] and471: btw, I didn't find an easy way to hide some of the tabs. for example, wireless and cellular tab should be hidden with wired connections etc [17:01] I'm exactly in that phase :) [17:02] but glade+vala totally rocks [17:02] yup :) [17:02] kvalo, did you try hiding the page widget? [17:02] nope, I didn't try that [17:03] kvalo, i.e. for the wireless tab, it would be alignment2.hide() [17:03] kvalo, i don't know whether it will work but worth a try :) [17:03] cool, I'll try that [17:03] thanks [17:03] kvalo, also about the things like name and stuff [17:03] kvalo, I was thinking about whether these should be in Gtk.Entries [17:03] even though they are not editable [17:04] maybe I should ask mpt [17:04] now that you mention it it makes sense [17:04] I just feel it looks better if all things on the right are in entries [17:04] I agree [17:04] however from a usability side, I don't know whether it is good [17:04] O_o [17:04] * and471 didn't see mpt in here :) [17:05] mpt, gimee a sec [17:05] k [17:05] mpt, okay so for the edit connection dialog, we have something like this http://imgur.com/wxqIU [17:06] mpt, and for mode and security, those won't ever be editable (AFAIK, kvalo can so confirm this) [17:06] and471: correct [17:06] and471, ok, please don't put them into text fields [17:06] It's perfectly fine for read-only values to be ordinary text [17:06] oh okay [17:06] I just felt it looked a bit better [17:07] mpt, so is a gtk.entry that isn't editable a bad ui practice in this case? [17:08] bbiab [17:08] and471, yes. Putting something in an insensitive text field suggests that there is some situation where the field will become sensitive. === aruiz_ is now known as aruiz === Artir_ is now known as Artir [17:18] mpt, even if it isn't insensitive, but not editable? [17:18] and471, I don't understand the distinction [17:19] mpt, so insensitive is done with widget.set_sensitive(false) [17:19] it is 'greyed out' [17:19] and user can't interact with it [17:19] and471, so if it's sensitive but not editable, you can select the text? [17:19] mpt, however gtk.entry's can also not be editable [17:19] mpt, so user can interact with it, highlight the text etc., but not able to change the text in the entry [17:20] mpt, correct [17:20] and471, if you want to make the text selectable (which is reasonable), you can do that just for a label. It doesn't need to be a gtk.entry for that. [17:20] mpt, yeah, I guess the reason I thought it looked better is consistency of appearance [17:21] and471, I think obviousness of purpose trumps appearance in this case. It's a settings window, so it needs to be elegant but extreme beauty isn't required. [17:22] okay [17:22] thanks [17:22] thanks for your help mpt [17:22] np [17:23] njpatel: is there any documentation for the DBUS API for counters and progress on the launcher ? [17:24] mpt, one last thing, for this edit connection dialog, we have labels on the left, with what the data on the right represents [17:24] mpt, should these be bold? [17:26] and471: I need to pop out. will be back in an hour or so [17:26] ok, see ya [17:27] and471, no, normal text for both [17:27] k === Guest90094 is now known as apinheiro [17:36] nerochiaro, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/LauncherAPI but really you should be using libunity if you can as the API will change [17:37] njpatel: right, but the code in there isn't the most readable for someone who's approaching that API for the first time [17:38] njpatel: so that doc is helping a lot [17:38] njpatel: then i'll use the code for the details [17:46] nerochiaro, makes sense, if you have suggestions please let kamstrup know when he's online, he's trying to get the docs working properly but having issues with vala [17:46] njpatel: ok, thanks [18:20] njpatel: the doc mentions that there's a special DBUS rule that routes to unity all the signals from the LauncherEntries. but how's that rule created and by what ? [18:21] nerochiaro: also feel free to update the wiki page if you find something that needs to be clarified. [18:21] jcastro: ok. i'll update the page with the answers i get [18:22] nerochiaro: what app out of curiosity? [18:22] jcastro: i'm working on unity2d actually [18:22] ah [18:22] jcastro: wouldn't care too much about the DBus protocol otherwise ;) [18:23] heh [18:41] also, i'm trying to build libunity on natty and on configure i get this: "error: failed. Please install the package 'gobject-introspection' in order to compile libunity" -- but i have that package already installed [19:28] DBO, are you busy? [19:29] tareth, whats up buddy [19:29] DBO, https://code.launchpad.net/~mrasmus/unity/fix-718886/+merge/50035 [19:30] i was going to file bugs after i upgraded to natty on my netbook, but i haven't really run into any, other than a few well known ones. [19:30] tareth, do you know why chromium slips by? :) [19:30] I mean I am just curious mostly [19:32] DBO, when we're checking for it in PluginAdapter::MaximizeIfBigEnough it isn't actually marked as maximized, and its width/height are what you would expect if it were windowed [19:32] So I'm guessing it "remembers" that it's supposed to be maximized a bit later [19:32] tareth, makes sense [19:33] I will approve the merge as soon as my system is in a sane state again (you caught me in the middle of debugging XDND) [19:33] No rush! :) Thanks! [20:16] lamlex: mind if I add some bitesize bits on UnityFilingBugs? [20:16] jcastro: not at all [20:16] go crazy [20:16] great job on this btw [20:17] well i've got nothing more interesting to do while nvidia is still broken :P [20:18] oh my fuck yes it worked === ivanka is now known as ivanka-train [20:24] DBO, what did? [20:24] I dropped something from nux [20:24] it communicated with another process... [20:24] whats been described as "the seediest part of X11" is now my bitch === m_conley is now known as m_conley_away [22:31] hello. I've restarted my computer and now I don't have any taskbar, and don't know how to get to the terminal either [22:59] ecinx3, killall gnome-panel [23:02] I ran that [23:03] gnome-panel: no process found [23:04] by the way, is there docs for utouch? so i can see what works and what is broken to report? [23:05] I have captive touch, and wacom pen input on the same screen [23:05] only two fingers at a time though [23:05] ecinx3, boulabiar, unity does not use gnome-panel, try 'compiz --replace' instead [23:06] * boulabiar is using gnome during these days [23:07] boulabiar, well, this is the channel that has unity support, afaik, i'd expect questions about unity [23:08] lol compviz --replace made my screen blink [23:08] ecinx3, wacom only supports 2 max, you can ask in ubuntu-touch to get more feedback [23:08] I don' know if wacom made the screen persay [23:09] it has wacom penabled tech [23:09] which is patented , and maybe licensed [23:11] in otherwords touch and pen are not mutually inclusive [23:15] Daekdroom: it said Backend: gconf Integration: true Profile defualt .. Adding plugins [23:15] init ******.... done about 20 lines worth [23:16] then setting update " run_commmand terminal key and fullscreen visual bell [23:18] * spikeb still doesn't know what to make of the launcher's intellihide [23:18] how do i get to the launcher [23:18] :