[00:01] <wgrant> slangasek: Not quite, but a call combined with Natty Unity, VirtualBox and ppa.launchpad.net slowness did.
[00:01] <wgrant> I have expanded the debug info.
[00:02] <wgrant> But germanium appears to be being very slow, so a build takes about 10 minutes to grab your PPA's toolchain.
[00:03] <slangasek> okie
[00:18] <wgrant> slangasek: Um.
[00:18] <slangasek> I like the sound of that
[00:18] <wgrant> slangasek: Well, it dies on the apt-cache showing of Essential packages.
[00:18] <wgrant> I just tried it in a chroot locally.
[00:18] <jonrafkind> when i upload a new package where i had an old package for the same distro, the new package overwrites the old one. but launchpad still seems to count the old package in the binary package list. why is that?
[00:18] <wgrant> apt-cache: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[00:19] <slangasek> jonrafkind: if you want the packages cleaned up out of your ppa, you need to use the 'delete packages' interface; otherwise it still takes up space on disk
[00:19] <slangasek> wgrant: oh, well, that's a nice error
[00:19] <slangasek> wgrant: what does 'dpkg -L libstdc++6 | grep lib' show in that chroot?
[00:19] <jonrafkind> ok, but why do I have to do it manually? whats the purpose of keeping packages around that no one can use?
[00:20] <slangasek> jonrafkind: they can be used by manually downloading from the web interface
[00:20] <wgrant> slangasek: It's only in the multi-arch dir.
[00:20] <jonrafkind> oh ok
[00:20] <wgrant> /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-glibc/libstdc++.so.6.0.14
[00:20] <wgrant> /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-glibc/libstdc++.so.6
[00:20] <lifeless> slangasek: I think we should much more aggressively delete old builds
[00:20] <slangasek> wgrant: that's where I expect it to be; hmm, why does it not find it
[00:20] <wgrant> slangasek: Ah, OK.
[00:20] <wgrant> lifeless: We currently do it after a week.
[00:21] <slangasek> wgrant: is the directory listed in '/etc/ld.so.conf.d/x86_64-linux-gnu.conf'?
[00:21] <lifeless> wgrant: I mean in ubuntu actually ;)
[00:21] <lifeless> wgrant: AIUI that keeps things forever
[00:21] <wgrant> lifeless: Not quite forever.
[00:21] <wgrant> slangasek: -gnu, not -glibc.
[00:21] <slangasek> wgrant: *only* -gnu is listed in that file?
[00:22] <jonrafkind> also is there some way to publish a package on launchpad for two distros without having to use the 'copy package' interface?
[00:22] <wgrant> slangasek: Yes.
[00:22] <slangasek> wgrant: what version of libc6 is installed?
[00:23] <wgrant> 2.12.1-0ubuntu16
[00:23] <slangasek> wgrant: ohhh.
[00:23] <wgrant> Ahh.
[00:23] <wgrant> A new one.
[00:23] <wgrant> That would do it.
[00:24] <slangasek> how do I force it to use mine? :-)
[00:24] <wgrant> Upload a new one :P
[00:24] <wgrant> Let me just see if downgrading that works, though.
[00:24] <slangasek> oh, a new one in *Ubuntu*, right
[00:24] <slangasek> that's going to be a problem
[00:24] <slangasek> in general
[00:24] <wgrant> Yeah.
[00:24] <wgrant> No way around that, really.
[00:24] <slangasek> I don't want to have to do a 15hour eglibc+gcc rebootstrap every time eglibc is updated in Ubuntu
[00:26] <slangasek> well, as you say, no clear way around it
[00:27] <wgrant> Unless you epoch them. Or backport the necessary toolchainy bits and base on maverick instead :/
[00:27] <slangasek> neither of those sounds particularly fun :)
[00:27] <wgrant> No.
[00:27] <slangasek> though an epoch would stay put at least
[00:29] <slangasek> wgrant: thanks for looking!
[00:30] <slangasek> oh, I'm an idiot
[00:30] <wgrant> slangasek: I'm still not sure why it thinks the status is 32512
[00:30] <slangasek> I should've made a separate ppa, copied the gcc build over there, removed it, and then copied it back after updating eglibc
[00:30] <slangasek> instead of deleting it willy-nilly like I just did
[00:31] <slangasek> wgrant: because perl has a funny way of saying "127"
[00:31] <wgrant> Ahh, that is a good idea.
[00:31] <wgrant> slangasek: I presumed that was the case.
[06:16] <Amaranth> got some spam: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alacarte/+bug/187919/comments/31
[06:19] <Peng> Amaranth: Report it at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion
[06:19] <Peng> Wow, that's some nice spam.
[06:20] <Amaranth> *sigh*
[06:20] <Amaranth> It appears launchpad is still broken with chromium so this is going to take a few tries
[06:21] <wgrant> How is it broken?
[06:21] <Amaranth> wgrant: It won't stay logged it
[06:22] <Amaranth> wgrant: Last time I bought it up I was told it was because I was using a development version of chromium (because it works with IE and Firefox)
[06:22] <wgrant> Amaranth: Many, many users use Chromium without issue.
[06:22] <wgrant> Including dev builds.
[06:22] <Amaranth> Now I've got whatever natty has instead the daily builds
[06:23] <wgrant> I am using Natty's too.
[06:23] <wgrant> And have never seen what you report.
[06:23] <Amaranth> I've even wiped my profile or whatever a couple times
[09:38] <andrejz> Hello! I would like to report a bug on launchpad
[09:38] <andrejz> If i go here - https://translations.launchpad.net/ddtp-ubuntu/natty/+pots/ddtp-ubuntu-main/sl/+translate?show=new_suggestions
[09:39] <andrejz> and accept all suggestions and click save
[09:39] <andrejz> I get this - Oops!
[09:39] <andrejz> Sorry, something just went wrong in Launchpad.
[09:39] <andrejz> We’ve recorded what happened, and we’ll fix it as soon as possible. Apologies for the inconvenience.
[09:39] <andrejz> (Error ID: OOPS-1873F743)
[09:40] <andrejz> I thought this was just temporary, but i tried several times sporadicaly over the last month and a half and i always get the same error
[09:40] <Peng> https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad ?
[10:49] <akoskm> bigjools: launchpad accepted my source package and now its started to build, thank for your help again!
[10:49] <bigjools> welcome3
[10:49] <bigjools> welcome, even
[13:23] <mok0> Is there a way to see the number of downloads from your PPA?
[14:54] <pmatulis_> is it just my imagination or did the bug description box get real tiny?
[15:00] <jml> pmatulis_: I don't know. Font sizes are funny things.
[15:00] <deryck> pmatulis_, looks the same to me.  screenshot for us maybe?
[15:00] <deryck> abentley, firing up mumble and coming there....
[15:01] <abentley> deryck, cool.
[15:01]  * deryck dreams of one launchpad IRC channel
[15:49] <jml> deryck: I share your dream.
[15:49] <deryck> :-)
[16:29] <omac> hello launchpad, somehow my username disappeared.  I wanted to report a bug for tomcat/solr.
[16:29] <omac> I would rather not use openid given the choice.
[16:30] <omac> openid didn't exist when I started using launchpad if that's any help.
[16:33] <bigjools> omac: what was/is your user id?
[16:34] <bigjools> omac: your user id is omac777
[16:35] <omac> yeah that sounds great.  It still exists?
[16:35] <bigjools> your account will have been migrated to the SSO
[16:35] <omac> I'll try it again.
[16:35] <bigjools> it exists
[16:35] <omac> thank you.
[16:35] <bigjools> np
[16:36] <bigjools> omac: woops sorry, I lied.  your account is uticdmarceau2007
[16:36] <omac> ok.
[16:36] <omac> i'll try it with that.
[16:36] <bigjools> you can sign on with the email address you PMed me as well
[17:29] <jonrafkind> will .deb files created in launchpad work on debian (sid) ?
[17:33] <tumbleweed> they might. The deb format is the same. However, its dependancies might not be met in sid (same issue as installing debs from different ubuntu releases)
[17:33] <jonrafkind> ok. can debian install from the ppa directly? does it have the right tools?
[17:33] <tumbleweed> yes, a PPA produces a debian repository
[17:34] <hyperair> it's not just the dependencies though
[17:35] <hyperair> some ubuntu patches might break the ABI compatibility
[17:35] <tumbleweed> and some packages might not set dependancies as tightly as they should
[17:36] <jonrafkind> ok, well im asking because i made a ppa that one user on debian wants to install, so im checking if thats possible for him
[17:36] <achiang> hello, is there a shortcut available to make assigning (or subscribing others) to bugs go faster? let's say the use case is, i'm a project leader, and i am allowed to assign bugs to my team members. i know their launchpad IDs, but when i go to assign bugs to people, it still makes me search
[17:38] <achiang> additionally, during the search, it obscures the email address / launchpad id, so the first time I have to guess who to assign to, and then mouse over the name in "assigned to", and check that the URL matches the launchpad ID i wanted
[17:38] <achiang> surely i'm doing it the Dumb Way?
[17:39] <bigjools> allenap: can you get that ^ I am OTP
[17:39] <allenap> bigjools: Sure.
[17:40] <bigjools> ta
[17:41] <allenap> achiang: You're probably doing it the Right Way, and the Right Way is a bit painful. Let me see...
[17:42] <achiang> allenap: sure, any info or hints you have would be great; i do appreciate the fact that what i am doing probably is the minority of how many people use LP and that you're probably trying to solve some social issues
[17:42] <allenap> achiang: If you right click on "Subscribe someone else" and open it, say, in a new tab, you'll get the without-javascript version of the form. There you can just type the name in.
[17:43] <achiang> allenap: ok, that's a good workaround
[17:43] <achiang> allenap: how about the "assign to" part?
[17:44] <allenap> achiang: Click the little down-arrow to the left of the bug task row and it will open up a conventional form.
[17:45] <achiang> allenap: ah, nice!
[17:45] <achiang> allenap: ok, that's perfect for me; i just didn't know how to drive this thing properly. :) thanks for the education
[17:45] <allenap> achiang: It would be nice if the user's ID were displayed in searches anyway though.
[17:45] <achiang> allenap: yes, i don't think that would be information leakage
[17:46] <allenap> achiang: No worries, you're welcome.
[17:46] <achiang> allenap: can you transform "it would be nice" into a bug? or shall I?
[17:46] <allenap> achiang: I'm already on it :)
[17:46] <achiang> allenap: perfect, and... please subscribe me to it. ;)
[17:47] <achiang> allenap: ~achiang
[22:01] <pmjdebruijn> hi
[22:01] <pmjdebruijn> I still have builds that corrupt occasionally
[22:01] <pmjdebruijn> the problem seems to have popped up since we have SSE code in our project
[22:02] <pmjdebruijn> With one of the users, I'm trying to figure out of a specific build machine is causing the issue... possibly thallium or promethium
[23:52] <dingus9> are the launchpad repo mirrors down? IE: http://ppa.launchpad.net/
[23:54] <maxb> dingus9: working fine here
[23:55] <dingus9> maxb: ok now it is here too... hehe thanks