[01:44] evening all [01:54] Wait.. popey why does jcastro get to be president and Daviey get to be duke? [01:56] how can we even have both a president and a duke? [02:05] o/ [02:05] Morning [02:19] mhall119: popey has apple products, he doesn't have to make sense ;-P [02:20] lol [04:37] I'm confused. [04:38] Was it a community decision to relicense the wiki or a Canonical decision? [04:50] there's been a bug assigned to the community council for a long time [04:51] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/+bug/392838 [04:51] Ubuntu bug 392838 in ubuntu-website "Ubuntu Wiki licence is unpermissive" [Medium,In progress] [04:52] community request, CC followed through with getting it sorted [04:52] Ah, so Canonical owned/owns the copyright [04:52] Right right, now it makes sense [04:52] Thanks pleia2 :) [04:52] sure :) [05:30] ok time to get a few hohurs sleep. Have got a good job lead I need to land tommorrow :) [05:31] hohurs == 1.25 hours [05:31] :P [07:40] good morning [08:07] good morning all [08:07] hola dpm [08:10] hey dholbach [08:15] dholbach: dpm everyone .. Morning :) [08:15] hey kim0 [08:15] howdy [08:17] hey kim0 [08:17] hey :) [08:51] morning all [08:53] hey duanedesign [08:53] glad you got your 1.25 hours of sleep :D [08:58] :) [09:12] morning [11:16] * popey tickles dholbach [11:17] * dholbach hugs popey [11:18] Good Morning all :-) I forgot how much I love being up early! Woo Hoo! [11:21] hello akgraner [11:21] duanedesign, hey :-) [11:21] akgraner: i love the cookbook idea :) [11:22] thanks - please encourage people to submit - I can't wait to share it with everyone if there is enough interest [11:23] akgraner: Morning :) [11:23] kim0, howdy! What's new in the cloud these days? [11:23] hehe it's raining today :) [11:23] and how are you and your family doing? well I hope... [11:23] HAHA [11:24] all going good indeed thanks [11:26] good to hear [11:27] hi akgraner :) [11:28] Hey Pendulum! [11:32] akgraner: yes i need to find my recipies [11:32] duanedesign, awesome! Thank you so very much! [12:28] brb, rebooting [13:34] http://i.imgur.com/4z4GA.jpg :D [13:40] :D [13:40] o_O === hggdh_ is now known as hggdh [14:52] Free airport wifi ftw [14:53] I thought you drove down [15:03] To NC.. Flying to Vegas [15:03] * nigelb eyes pop out. [15:04] didnt you look at my tripit [15:04] :-P [15:04] nah [15:04] ok then [15:04] I've been drowned with work lately [15:04] Need more summit and LD work done :-P [15:22] jcastro: ping [15:22] yo yo [15:22] yo... I'm told that the theme of uds.u.c is a modified theme from the light-wordpress-theme that the community made.. which I knew... and that mr. metal is the one with the access to fix its bugs [15:23] lol [15:23] mr. metal [15:23] I don't know if that is accurate, but thats what im told [15:23] I am not sure [15:23] depends what the bug is [15:23] AlanBell: against the theme [15:23] we did fix one bug with jcastro [15:24] cjohnston: yes, what specifically? [15:24] bug 713125 would prolly best be in an rt [15:24] Launchpad bug 713125 in ubuntu-website "broken/wrong SSL certificate on uds.ubuntu.com" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/713125 [15:24] yup, that would be the one he can't fix [15:24] that's RT thing [15:24] oh, you're triaging ubuntu-website [15:25] * nigelb says a prayer for cjohnston [15:25] theres a bunch of bugs filed in ubuntu-wesbite against uds.u.c [15:25] any content related ones? [15:26] bug 709395 [15:26] Launchpad bug 709395 in ubuntu-website "uds.ubuntu.com needs the use the Ubuntu font" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/709395 [15:26] i dont think so jcastro.. ive told you about those ones [15:26] morning [15:26] cjohnston: did you notice that jcastro filed the above bug? [15:27] morning mhall119 :) [15:27] bug 672113 would be fixed by upgrading to the current theme i believe [15:27] Launchpad bug 672113 in ubuntu-website "uds.ubuntu.com uses too bright orange" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/672113 [15:27] every time I see kim0 I think Qimo [15:27] nigelb: someone has to fix it.. and im being told its jono [15:28] cjohnston: we fixed the orange in the django theme, I'm not sure it's been fixed in the drupal theme [15:28] cjohnston: right, true [15:28] cjohnston: I think Mr Metal can't unless the template is chowned to www-data [15:28] cjohnston: lets all flood jono :p [15:28] mhall119: :) is that the kids software ? :) [15:28] or whatever it is running as [15:28] kim0: yeah [15:28] hehe [15:28] AlanBell: template is usually not owned to www-data for security I think [15:28] is your nick supposed to be pronounced 'kim-oh'? [15:28] mhall119: I guess that's nice fluffy :) [15:28] or 'kim-zero'? [15:28] mhall119: oh [15:29] nigelb: in which case the wordpress built in theme editor can't edit it [15:29] no, fluffy is another desktop [15:29] very very pink [15:29] hahaa [15:29] AlanBell: wordpress does a lot of good things which most admins won't let you use for security reasons :( [15:29] (I don't disagree there) [15:30] nigelb: quite correct [15:30] mhall119: wordpress.. stas is pretty up on it [15:31] AlanBell: I'm being told by Ale that Jono is the one with the access [15:31] maybe through ssh as himself [15:32] but if jcastro can't through the web interface then neither can jono [15:32] +1 to that [15:32] yeah theme editing I can't do [15:34] All I know is that Ale said Jono could fix it.. [15:34] I guess when I get time I'll look into it more [15:38] cjohnston: oh ok, then yeah, stas was doing the WP theme [15:38] He was pretty up with the theme.. dunno if its fixed though [15:40] mhall119 and cjohnston on uds.ubuntu.com homepage? NEAT [15:40] shut up [15:40] heh [15:41] mhall119: that reminds me.. we need to find jcastro and take care of that [15:41] cjohnston: take care of what? [15:41] you mean pay him for it? :p [15:41] getting it removed [15:41] umm.. no [15:42] no way, I need that up there to prove to Moffitt that I was doing something other than taking a 5 day paid vacation [15:42] mhall119: Did you apply for passport? [15:42] * mhall119 hides [15:43] * nigelb kicks mhall119. Repeatedly. [15:43] Oh boy. Now its my turn. [15:43] cjohnston: you look so great in the pic! [15:43] yeah but if we're both at UDS, there not reason to kick me, and if I'm not at UDS, you won't be able to [15:43] uh huh [15:44] mhall119: I can recruit people to kick you. [15:44] I'm sure someone at Orlando next time will be happy to oblige. [15:46] except I'm already supposed to be kicking cjohnston, so we've got a mutual non-aggression pact [15:47] jcastro: seems as though the sysadmins can update the theme [15:47] but i dont know what that may do to any customizations that have happened [15:48] time for me to pack up and get on the plane... Next stop.. NYC [15:48] wait! [15:48] I fixed the pic [15:48] https://dl.dropbox.com/u/5720/uds5.jpg [15:48] how's this? [15:48] jcastro: Much better :-P [15:49] jcastro: Please replace :D [15:49] thanks [15:49] jcastro: That was fast! [15:49] goodbye [15:49] heh [15:49] <3 [15:49] actually, is there a laptop there or are you just looking like you're sulking? [15:50] There is a laptop..You can see it between mhall119's hand and his laptop [15:50] cjohnston: nice [15:50] jcastro: both, IIRC [15:50] he didn't want to be up front in that session [15:50] oh, so this could easily be "And this is what I think" and "Yeah whatever, I am working" [15:50] Oh gosh, the nearest restaurant that delivers recognized my voice when I called them. [15:51] Sigh, I guess I'm a true geek now :p [15:51] lazy! [15:51] I have a great relationship with our pizza guy [15:51] jcastro, I'll tell Jill! [15:51] my local chinese place knows either my number of my voice [15:51] dholbach: I only have a toaster. Nothing else to cook with :( [15:52] a toaster is a good start - you can even light cigarettes with it [15:52] jcastro: I think you need to but dholbach a pizza to pacify him :P [15:52] *buy [15:52] jcastro: what are your thoughts on making a summit page with embedded webchat + next hour's sessions [15:52] oooh [15:52] hey [15:52] instead of using xchat on top of a browser [15:52] couldn't we just link up the web thing? [15:53] We could [15:53] like, one page for each room or something? [15:53] that'd be sweet [15:53] yeah it would [15:53] jcastro: yeah [15:53] people could just open up browser tabs [15:53] can I take the bug? please? please? please? [15:53] also add a link to the icecast feed [15:53] nigelb: all yours [15:53] mhall119: danke. /me files bugs and assigns [15:53] I think that would be awesome [15:54] hmmm, can we embed the icecast audio into the page itself? [15:54] I don't think so [15:54] that would need a plugin [15:54] they make flash widgets for such things, surely someone's done an html5 one [15:54] maybe chrome or firefox can natively play ogg streams? [15:54] * popey tickles jcastro [15:55] nigelb: this is a lot of stuff, so start with one piece, submit it, and then work on the enxt [15:55] mhall119: yeah, that'sthe plan [15:55] start with a per-room page with webchat [15:55] mhall119: that's the bug I filed [15:56] that way the rest of us can contribute bits too [15:56] I didn't add the steam thing [15:56] you rock nigelb [15:56] anyone else can take up the other one :) [15:56] dholbach: I'm sorry I haven't gotten you the script. Should be there by Monday. I'm swamped with work from all sides. mhall119 and summit is what's keeping me alive right now. [15:57] take it easy [15:57] wow, that's a lot of responsibility [15:58] czajkowski: i just talked to one of the two czajkowskis i work with, and he said czajkowski is a very common name in poland, and there's even a town with that name [15:58] maco2: yes [15:58] * popey tickles jono [15:59] czajkowski: he also said his nickname in the army was "alphabets" [16:00] hey jono [16:01] jono: morning [16:01] jcastro: i'm saving that photo :) [16:01] hey folks :-) [16:01] maco2: fair enough [16:02] dpm, jcastro, dholbach, kim0 ok, call time [16:02] go go go [16:02] all set! [16:02] oh one sec [16:03] I WAS TOO BUSY MAKING FUN OF CJOHNSTON! [16:03] hheee [16:03] ok ready [16:04] jono, call time? :) [16:04] dholbach, getting my mic set up [16:04] damn thing [16:04] skype right [16:04] calling now [16:18] Hrm. Two people in two days complaining about Ubuntu SSO to launchpad :( [16:18] Basically "I'm not going to log a bug because blah blah blah" [16:20] well if they don't log a bug, then there's nothing to fix [16:21] really annoying when you hear that [16:21] either log the bug [16:21] or say you're not able to log a bug and someone can help you [16:23] my motto: "Bug report or it didn't happen" [16:40] mhall119: Bug reports are too hard IMO [16:41] doctormo: people are too lazy IMO [16:41] They are a bit scary for non-technical users. [16:41] I don't doubt that. [16:43] popey: People are always too lazy, that's why they buy Apple products. [16:43] saw that coming [16:43] * popey notes that a couple of apps have crashed recently on his mac (OSX) [16:43] a dialog box comes up with lots of technical gubbins in, and a single box you can type what you like in, then press "ok" [16:43] Pici: I think the main issue is that there is a chasm between "I have a problem" "We have a problem" and "there is a problem" [16:43] thats how we should do it [16:44] Launchpad and other bug trackers want to track "there is a problems" [16:44] People want to track "I have a problem" [16:44] And the dialog is different for each. [16:44] no they dont [16:44] they dont care [16:44] they just want it fixed [16:44] They just want it fixed. [16:44] they don't want to "track" anything [16:44] popey: Fine, they just want to moan. [16:45] that too [16:45] Happy? track or moan, same thing [16:45] Well, they may want to know if progress is being made. [16:45] I am very happy. I'll go home now and leave you mister grumpy pants :) [16:46] popey: I don't know, you're the one that always seems so cynical about the human race. [16:46] you say cynic, I say realist, lets call the whole thing off. [16:47] Inventing your all realities, lets. [16:48] own* [17:35] have a great rest of your day my friends - see you tomorrow [17:36] * popey hugs dholbach [17:37] * dholbach hugs popey back [18:05] jcastro: made it [18:05] yeah [18:05] non styled [18:05] I got the normal notification [18:06] Hum, I'm not even getting notifications [18:06] Where would I enable these notifications? [18:07] Oh, nevermind I'll just dive into the source for IRC Cloud and start dissecting how the HTML is structured. I think the only reliable way is to create a parser for each HTML notification service out there. Like TweekDeck, IRC Cloud, etc. [18:07] Until a better way can be formulated [18:08] it's in there somewhere [18:08] I remember it [18:08] marcoceppi: the app needs to be not focused [18:08] so I can like [18:08] marcoceppi: ping [18:08] marcoceppi: ping [18:08] Yeah, nothing. Let me hunt in the settings [18:09] Shortest settings dialog box ever [18:13] ok everyone, calling it a day here, see you all tomorrow! [18:25] jcastro: I just got the "Show notifications" thing from IRC Cloud - can I get a ping-back? [18:26] marcoceppi: ping [18:26] Hum, doesn't really *seem* to be HTML notification... [20:49] anyone want to see the new unreleased wiki theme? [20:50] me me [20:50] :) [20:50] me me me [20:51] http://libertus.co.uk:8083 [20:51] AlanBell, now that one I like! [20:51] nice [20:52] probably a few things to fix [20:52] how do bullet points look? [20:52] going to be waved at the accessibility team in a bit (meeting starting in #ubunt-accessibility in 10 minutes) [20:53] pleia2: no idea [20:53] I will paste in a uwn [20:53] What about table of contents [20:53] on that's a great idea if UWN can look acceptable in it...the shoot score win :-) (but I am bias) [20:54] http://libertus.co.uk:8083/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue219 [20:55] feel free to have a play, it is a wiki [20:55] oh, much better [20:55] much better [20:55] and so much easier to read [20:55] * pleia2 nods [20:57] it will be on launchpad, but isn't right now as it needs to be de-tangled from some internal Canonical moin themes which were in the same branch [20:57] AlanBell: can I get some of your colour profile info for that wiki? I'm thinking it may be better for some of my apps than DD4814 & 5E2750 (which are what I have been using) [20:58] of course Pendulum [21:00] by the way, in case anyone's interested I've been doing beta testing for a web-based phone app creation program ( www.spotspecific.com ) so have a prototype Ubuntu Accessibility Team app and am working on a prototype app for the Classroom team :) [21:01] Hmmm.. looks interesting. [21:01] it's still somewhat ropey software, but I've been enjoying playing with it :) [21:04] AlanBell knows more about using it on Ubuntu than I do, though, as I've admittedly been using Chrome on MacOS [21:04] (I'm also doing something crazy and attempting to do 14-apps in 14 days, although I think it may be more likely to be 7 apps in 14 days based on how I'm going so far :-/ ) [21:05] wheeeeee [21:05] another day goes by when I cant use unity :( [21:05] * popey pokes nvidia with a pointy stick [21:10] * JFo sharpens popey's stick for him [21:21] * AlanBell plays with todays unity [22:39] howdy from NYC [22:39] hopefully we get on the plane [23:07] cjohnston: Oh? [23:45] cjohnston: on your way to vegas?