[01:44] <duanedesign> evening all
[01:54] <cjohnston> Wait.. popey why does jcastro get to be president and Daviey get to be duke?
[01:56] <mhall119> how can we even have both a president and a duke?
[02:05] <nigelb> o/
[02:05] <nigelb> Morning
[02:19] <doctormo> mhall119: popey has apple products, he doesn't have to make sense ;-P
[02:20] <mhall119> lol
[04:37] <nigelb> I'm confused.
[04:38] <nigelb> Was it a community decision to relicense the wiki or a Canonical decision?
[04:50] <pleia2> there's been a bug assigned to the community council for a long time
[04:51] <pleia2> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/+bug/392838
[04:51] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 392838 in ubuntu-website "Ubuntu Wiki licence is unpermissive" [Medium,In progress]
[04:52] <pleia2> community request, CC followed through with getting it sorted
[04:52] <nigelb> Ah, so Canonical owned/owns the copyright
[04:52] <nigelb> Right right, now it makes sense
[04:52] <nigelb> Thanks pleia2 :)
[04:52] <pleia2> sure :)
[05:30] <duanedesign> ok time to get a few hohurs sleep. Have got a good job lead I need to land tommorrow :)
[05:31] <duanedesign> hohurs == 1.25 hours
[05:31] <duanedesign> :P
[07:40] <dholbach> good morning
[08:07] <dpm> good morning all
[08:07] <dholbach> hola dpm
[08:10] <dpm> hey dholbach
[08:15] <kim0> dholbach: dpm everyone .. Morning :)
[08:15] <dholbach> hey kim0
[08:15] <kim0> howdy
[08:17] <dpm> hey kim0
[08:17] <kim0> hey :)
[08:51] <duanedesign> morning all
[08:53] <nigelb> hey duanedesign
[08:53] <nigelb> glad you got your 1.25 hours of sleep :D
[08:58] <duanedesign> :)
[09:12] <huats> morning
[11:16]  * popey tickles dholbach 
[11:17]  * dholbach hugs popey
[11:18] <akgraner> Good Morning all :-)  I forgot how much I love being up early! Woo Hoo!
[11:21] <duanedesign> hello akgraner
[11:21] <akgraner> duanedesign, hey :-)
[11:21] <duanedesign> akgraner: i love the cookbook idea :)
[11:22] <akgraner> thanks - please encourage people to submit - I can't wait to share it with everyone if there is enough interest
[11:23] <kim0> akgraner: Morning :)
[11:23] <akgraner> kim0, howdy!  What's new in the cloud these days?
[11:23] <kim0> hehe it's raining today :)
[11:23] <akgraner> and how are you and your family doing? well I hope...
[11:23] <akgraner> HAHA
[11:24] <kim0> all going good indeed thanks
[11:26] <akgraner> good to hear
[11:27] <Pendulum> hi akgraner :)
[11:28] <akgraner> Hey Pendulum!
[11:32] <duanedesign> akgraner: yes i need to find my recipies
[11:32] <akgraner> duanedesign, awesome!  Thank you so very much!
[12:28] <dpm> brb, rebooting
[13:34] <czajkowski> http://i.imgur.com/4z4GA.jpg :D
[13:40] <Pici> :D
[13:40] <popey> o_O
[14:52] <cjohnston> Free airport wifi ftw
[14:53] <nigelb> I thought you drove down
[15:03] <cjohnston> To NC.. Flying to Vegas
[15:03]  * nigelb eyes pop out.
[15:04] <cjohnston> didnt you look at my tripit
[15:04] <cjohnston> :-P
[15:04] <nigelb> nah
[15:04] <cjohnston> ok then
[15:04] <nigelb> I've been drowned with work lately
[15:04] <cjohnston> Need more summit and LD work done :-P
[15:22] <cjohnston> jcastro: ping
[15:22] <jcastro> yo yo
[15:22] <cjohnston> yo... I'm told that the theme of uds.u.c is a modified theme from the light-wordpress-theme that the community made.. which I knew... and that mr. metal is the one with the access to fix its bugs
[15:23] <nigelb> lol
[15:23] <nigelb> mr. metal
[15:23] <cjohnston> I don't know if that is accurate, but thats what im told
[15:23] <jcastro> I am not sure
[15:23] <AlanBell> depends what the bug is
[15:23] <cjohnston> AlanBell: against the theme
[15:23] <nigelb> we did fix one bug with jcastro
[15:24] <nigelb> cjohnston: yes, what specifically?
[15:24] <cjohnston> bug 713125 would prolly best be in an rt
[15:24] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 713125 in ubuntu-website "broken/wrong SSL certificate on uds.ubuntu.com" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/713125
[15:24] <AlanBell> yup, that would be the one he can't fix
[15:24] <nigelb> that's RT thing
[15:24] <nigelb> oh, you're triaging ubuntu-website
[15:25]  * nigelb says a prayer for cjohnston 
[15:25] <cjohnston> theres a bunch of bugs filed in ubuntu-wesbite against uds.u.c
[15:25] <jcastro> any content related ones?
[15:26] <cjohnston> bug 709395
[15:26] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 709395 in ubuntu-website "uds.ubuntu.com needs the use the Ubuntu font" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/709395
[15:26] <cjohnston> i dont think so jcastro.. ive told you about those ones
[15:26] <mhall119> morning
[15:26] <nigelb> cjohnston: did you notice that jcastro filed the above bug?
[15:27] <nigelb> morning mhall119 :)
[15:27] <cjohnston> bug 672113 would be fixed by upgrading to the current theme i believe
[15:27] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 672113 in ubuntu-website "uds.ubuntu.com uses too bright orange" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/672113
[15:27] <mhall119> every time I see kim0 I think Qimo
[15:27] <cjohnston> nigelb: someone has to fix it.. and im being told its jono
[15:28] <mhall119> cjohnston: we fixed the orange in the django theme, I'm not sure it's been fixed in the drupal theme
[15:28] <nigelb> cjohnston: right, true
[15:28] <AlanBell> cjohnston: I think Mr Metal can't unless the template is chowned to www-data
[15:28] <nigelb> cjohnston: lets all flood jono :p
[15:28] <kim0> mhall119: :) is that the kids software ? :)
[15:28] <AlanBell> or whatever it is running as
[15:28] <mhall119> kim0: yeah
[15:28] <kim0> hehe
[15:28] <nigelb> AlanBell: template is usually not owned to www-data for security I think
[15:28] <mhall119> is your nick supposed to be pronounced 'kim-oh'?
[15:28] <kim0> mhall119: I guess that's nice fluffy :)
[15:28] <mhall119> or 'kim-zero'?
[15:28] <kim0> mhall119: oh
[15:29] <AlanBell> nigelb: in which case the wordpress built in theme editor can't edit it
[15:29] <mhall119> no, fluffy is another desktop
[15:29] <mhall119> very very pink
[15:29] <kim0> hahaa
[15:29] <nigelb> AlanBell: wordpress does a lot of good things which most admins won't let you use for security reasons :(
[15:29] <nigelb> (I don't disagree there)
[15:30] <AlanBell> nigelb: quite correct
[15:30] <cjohnston> mhall119: wordpress.. stas is pretty up on it
[15:31] <cjohnston> AlanBell: I'm being told by Ale that Jono is the one with the access
[15:31] <AlanBell> maybe through ssh as himself
[15:32] <AlanBell> but if jcastro can't through the web interface then neither can jono
[15:32] <nigelb> +1 to that
[15:32] <jcastro> yeah theme editing I can't do
[15:34] <cjohnston> All I know is that Ale said Jono could fix it..
[15:34] <cjohnston> I guess when I get time I'll look into it more
[15:38] <mhall119> cjohnston: oh ok, then yeah, stas was doing the WP theme
[15:38] <cjohnston> He was pretty up with the theme.. dunno if its fixed though
[15:40] <nigelb> mhall119 and cjohnston on uds.ubuntu.com homepage? NEAT
[15:40] <cjohnston> shut up
[15:40] <mhall119> heh
[15:41] <cjohnston> mhall119: that reminds me.. we need to find jcastro and take care of that
[15:41] <mhall119> cjohnston: take care of what?
[15:41] <nigelb> you mean pay him for it? :p
[15:41] <cjohnston> getting it removed
[15:41] <cjohnston> umm.. no
[15:42] <mhall119> no way, I need that up there to prove to Moffitt that I was doing something other than taking a 5 day paid vacation
[15:42] <nigelb> mhall119: Did you apply for passport?
[15:42]  * mhall119 hides
[15:43]  * nigelb kicks mhall119.  Repeatedly.
[15:43] <nigelb> Oh boy.  Now its my turn.
[15:43] <jcastro> cjohnston: you look so great in the pic!
[15:43] <mhall119> yeah but if we're both at UDS, there not reason to kick me, and if I'm not at UDS, you won't be able to
[15:43] <cjohnston> uh huh
[15:44] <nigelb> mhall119: I can recruit people to kick you.
[15:44] <nigelb> I'm sure someone at Orlando next time will be happy to oblige.
[15:46] <mhall119> except I'm already supposed to be kicking cjohnston, so we've got a mutual non-aggression pact
[15:47] <cjohnston> jcastro: seems as though the sysadmins can update the theme
[15:47] <cjohnston> but i dont know what that may do to any customizations that have happened
[15:48] <cjohnston> time for me to pack up and get on the plane... Next stop.. NYC
[15:48] <jcastro> wait!
[15:48] <jcastro> I fixed the pic
[15:48] <jcastro> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/5720/uds5.jpg
[15:48] <jcastro> how's this?
[15:48] <nigelb> jcastro: Much better :-P
[15:49] <nigelb> jcastro: Please replace :D
[15:49] <cjohnston> thanks
[15:49] <nigelb> jcastro: That was fast!
[15:49] <cjohnston> goodbye
[15:49] <jcastro> heh
[15:49] <jcastro> <3
[15:49] <jcastro> actually, is there a laptop there or are you just looking like you're sulking?
[15:50] <nigelb> There is a laptop..You can see it between mhall119's hand and his laptop
[15:50] <mhall119> cjohnston: nice
[15:50] <mhall119> jcastro: both, IIRC
[15:50] <mhall119> he didn't want to be up front in that session
[15:50] <jcastro> oh, so this could easily be "And this is what I think" and "Yeah whatever, I am working"
[15:50] <nigelb> Oh gosh, the nearest restaurant that delivers recognized my voice when I called them.
[15:51] <nigelb> Sigh, I guess I'm a true geek now :p
[15:51] <dholbach> lazy!
[15:51] <jcastro> I have a great relationship with our pizza guy
[15:51] <dholbach> jcastro, I'll tell Jill!
[15:51] <mhall119> my local chinese place knows either my number of my voice
[15:51] <nigelb> dholbach: I only have a toaster.  Nothing else to cook with :(
[15:52] <dholbach> a toaster is a good start - you can even light cigarettes with it
[15:52] <nigelb> jcastro: I think you need to but dholbach a pizza to pacify him  :P
[15:52] <nigelb> *buy
[15:52] <mhall119> jcastro: what are your thoughts on making a summit page with embedded webchat + next hour's sessions
[15:52] <jcastro> oooh
[15:52] <jcastro> hey
[15:52] <mhall119> instead of using xchat on top of a browser
[15:52] <jcastro> couldn't we just link up the web thing?
[15:53] <nigelb> We could
[15:53] <jcastro> like, one page for each room or something?
[15:53] <dholbach> that'd be sweet
[15:53] <jcastro> yeah it would
[15:53] <mhall119> jcastro: yeah
[15:53] <jcastro> people could just open up browser tabs
[15:53] <nigelb> can I take the bug? please? please? please?
[15:53] <mhall119> also add a link to the icecast feed
[15:53] <mhall119> nigelb: all yours
[15:53] <nigelb> mhall119: danke.  /me files bugs and assigns
[15:53] <jcastro> I think that would be awesome
[15:54] <mhall119> hmmm, can we embed the icecast audio into the page itself?
[15:54] <nigelb> I don't think so
[15:54] <nigelb> that would need a plugin
[15:54] <jcastro> they make flash widgets for such things, surely someone's done an html5 one
[15:54] <mhall119> maybe chrome or firefox can natively play ogg streams?
[15:54]  * popey tickles jcastro 
[15:55] <mhall119> nigelb: this is a lot of stuff, so start with one piece, submit it, and then work on the enxt
[15:55] <nigelb> mhall119: yeah, that'sthe plan
[15:55] <mhall119> start with a per-room page with webchat
[15:55] <nigelb> mhall119: that's the bug I filed
[15:56] <mhall119> that way the rest of us can contribute bits too
[15:56] <nigelb> I didn't add the steam thing
[15:56] <mhall119> you rock nigelb
[15:56] <nigelb> anyone else can take up the other one :)
[15:56] <nigelb> dholbach: I'm sorry I haven't gotten you the script.  Should be there by Monday.  I'm swamped with work from all sides.  mhall119 and summit is what's keeping me alive right now.
[15:57] <dholbach> take it easy
[15:57] <mhall119> wow, that's a lot of responsibility
[15:58] <maco2> czajkowski: i just talked to one of the two czajkowskis i work with, and he said czajkowski is a very common name in poland, and there's even a town with that name
[15:58] <czajkowski> maco2: yes
[15:58]  * popey tickles jono 
[15:59] <maco2> czajkowski: he also said his nickname in the army was "alphabets"
[16:00] <dholbach> hey jono
[16:01] <kim0> jono: morning
[16:01] <mhall119> jcastro: i'm saving that photo :)
[16:01] <jono> hey folks :-)
[16:01] <czajkowski> maco2: fair enough
[16:02] <jono> dpm, jcastro, dholbach, kim0 ok, call time
[16:02] <dholbach> go go go
[16:02] <dpm> all set!
[16:02] <jcastro> oh one sec
[16:03] <jcastro> I WAS TOO  BUSY MAKING FUN OF CJOHNSTON!
[16:03] <kim0> hheee
[16:03] <jcastro> ok ready
[16:04] <dholbach> jono, call time? :)
[16:04] <jono> dholbach, getting my mic set up
[16:04] <jono> damn thing
[16:04] <kim0> skype right
[16:04] <jono> calling now
[16:18] <Pici> Hrm.  Two people in two days complaining about Ubuntu SSO to launchpad :(
[16:18] <Pici> Basically "I'm not going to log a bug because blah blah blah"
[16:20] <mhall119> well if they don't log a bug, then there's nothing to fix
[16:21] <czajkowski> really annoying when you hear that
[16:21] <czajkowski> either log the bug
[16:21] <czajkowski> or say you're not able to log a bug and someone can help you
[16:23] <mhall119> my motto: "Bug report or it didn't happen"
[16:40] <doctormo> mhall119: Bug reports are too hard IMO
[16:41] <popey> doctormo: people are too lazy IMO
[16:41] <Pici> They are a bit scary for non-technical users.
[16:41] <Pici> I don't doubt that.
[16:43] <doctormo> popey: People are always too lazy, that's why they buy Apple products.
[16:43] <popey> saw that coming
[16:43]  * popey notes that a couple of apps have crashed recently on his mac (OSX)
[16:43] <popey> a dialog box comes up with lots of technical gubbins in, and a single box you can type what you like in, then press "ok"
[16:43] <doctormo> Pici: I think the main issue is that there is a chasm between "I have a problem" "We have a problem" and "there is a problem"
[16:43] <popey> thats how we should do it
[16:44] <doctormo> Launchpad and other bug trackers want to track "there is a problems"
[16:44] <doctormo> People want to track "I have a problem"
[16:44] <doctormo> And the dialog is different for each.
[16:44] <popey> no they dont
[16:44] <popey> they dont care
[16:44] <popey> they just want it fixed
[16:44] <Pici> They just want it fixed.
[16:44] <popey> they don't want to "track" anything
[16:44] <doctormo> popey: Fine, they just want to moan.
[16:45] <popey> that too
[16:45] <doctormo> Happy? track or moan, same thing
[16:45] <Pici> Well, they may want to know if progress is being made.
[16:45] <popey> I am very happy. I'll go home now and leave you mister grumpy pants :)
[16:46] <doctormo> popey: I don't know, you're the one that always seems so cynical about the human race.
[16:46] <popey> you say cynic, I say realist, lets call the whole thing off.
[16:47] <doctormo> Inventing your all realities, lets.
[16:48] <doctormo> own*
[17:35] <dholbach> have a great rest of your day my friends - see you tomorrow
[17:36]  * popey hugs dholbach 
[17:37]  * dholbach hugs popey back
[18:05] <marcoceppi> jcastro: made it
[18:05] <jcastro> yeah
[18:05] <jcastro> non styled
[18:05] <jcastro> I got the normal notification
[18:06] <marcoceppi> Hum, I'm not even getting notifications
[18:06] <marcoceppi> Where would I enable these notifications?
[18:07] <marcoceppi> Oh, nevermind I'll just dive into the source for IRC Cloud and start dissecting how the HTML is structured. I think the only reliable way is to create a parser for each HTML notification service out there. Like TweekDeck, IRC Cloud, etc.
[18:07] <marcoceppi> Until a better way can be formulated
[18:08] <jcastro> it's in there somewhere
[18:08] <jcastro> I remember it
[18:08] <jcastro> marcoceppi: the app needs to be not focused
[18:08] <jcastro> so I can like
[18:08] <jcastro> marcoceppi: ping
[18:08] <jcastro> marcoceppi: ping
[18:08] <marcoceppi> Yeah, nothing. Let me hunt in the settings
[18:09] <marcoceppi> Shortest settings dialog box ever
[18:13] <dpm> ok everyone, calling it a day here, see you all tomorrow!
[18:25] <marcoceppi> jcastro: I just got the "Show notifications" thing from IRC Cloud - can I get a ping-back?
[18:26] <jcastro> marcoceppi: ping
[18:26] <marcoceppi> Hum, doesn't really *seem* to be HTML notification...
[20:49] <AlanBell> anyone want to see the new unreleased wiki theme?
[20:50] <pleia2> me me
[20:50] <pleia2> :)
[20:50] <akgraner> me me me
[20:51] <AlanBell> http://libertus.co.uk:8083
[20:51] <akgraner> AlanBell, now that one I like!
[20:51] <pleia2> nice
[20:52] <AlanBell> probably a few things to fix
[20:52] <pleia2> how do bullet points look?
[20:52] <AlanBell> going to be waved at the accessibility team in a bit (meeting starting in #ubunt-accessibility in 10 minutes)
[20:53] <AlanBell> pleia2: no idea
[20:53] <AlanBell> I will paste in a uwn
[20:53] <akgraner> What about table of contents
[20:53] <akgraner> on that's a great idea if UWN can look acceptable in it...the shoot score win :-) (but I am bias)
[20:54] <AlanBell> http://libertus.co.uk:8083/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue219
[20:55] <AlanBell> feel free to have a play, it is a wiki
[20:55] <pleia2> oh, much better
[20:55] <akgraner> much better
[20:55] <akgraner> and so much easier to read
[20:55]  * pleia2 nods
[20:57] <AlanBell> it will be on launchpad, but isn't right now as it needs to be de-tangled from some internal Canonical moin themes which were in the same branch
[20:57] <Pendulum> AlanBell: can I get some of your colour profile info for that wiki? I'm thinking it may be better for some of my apps than DD4814 & 5E2750 (which are what I have been using)
[20:58] <AlanBell> of course Pendulum
[21:00] <Pendulum> by the way, in case anyone's interested I've been doing beta testing for a web-based phone app creation program ( www.spotspecific.com ) so have a prototype Ubuntu Accessibility Team app and am working on a prototype app for the Classroom team :)
[21:01] <Pici> Hmmm.. looks interesting.
[21:01] <Pendulum> it's still somewhat ropey software, but I've been enjoying playing with it :)
[21:04] <Pendulum> AlanBell knows more about using it on Ubuntu than I do, though, as I've admittedly been using Chrome on MacOS
[21:04] <Pendulum> (I'm also doing something crazy and attempting to do 14-apps in 14 days, although I think it may be more likely to be 7 apps in 14 days based on how I'm going so far :-/ )
[21:05] <popey> wheeeeee
[21:05] <popey> another day goes by when I cant use unity :(
[21:05]  * popey pokes nvidia with a pointy stick
[21:10]  * JFo sharpens popey's stick for him
[21:21]  * AlanBell plays with todays unity
[22:39] <cjohnston> howdy from NYC
[22:39] <cjohnston> hopefully we get on the plane
[23:07] <doctormo> cjohnston: Oh?
[23:45] <mhall119> cjohnston: on your way to vegas?