[03:25] <yellowblue> Sup
[03:25] <yellowblue> Im a true gangsta niggas
[03:25] <yellowblue> !ops
[03:25] <yellowblue> Im a true gangsta niggas
[03:25] <KB1JWQ> Some people's kids.
[03:25] <IdleOne> !staff ^^
[03:26] <jrib> no more gpc?
[03:26] <IdleOne> my bouncer got disconnected and this is the default nick. I didn't change it back
[03:29] <wgrant> He's doing the rounds now.
[03:30] <jrib> night
[03:31] <IdleOne> KB1JWQ: feel free to kline him at your convenience :)
[03:31] <Hobbsee> fail op-work in -devel, fwiw.  be careful.
[03:31] <Hobbsee> either that, or my client's reporting wrong
[03:32] <nhandler> Hobbsee: What was it showing? I set a quiet in there
[03:33] <Hobbsee> nhandler: gave the idiot in question ops
[03:33] <Hobbsee> [14:29] *** ChanServ gives channel owner privileges to *!*@166.186.169.129.
[03:33] <Hobbsee> perhaps not the desired response ;)
[03:33] <IdleOne> he is in #xubuntu now
[03:33] <nhandler> Hobbsee: What client? Sounds like it didn't recognize +q ;)
[03:34] <Hobbsee> nhandler: konversation.  it normally recognises +q
[03:34] <nhandler> Strange
[03:35] <Hobbsee> quite.  nevermind, then :)
[03:35] <Hobbsee> normally konvi says "$person set mode +q"
[03:36] <nhandler> Hobbsee: It might be due to me setting the quiet via chanserv
[03:36] <Hobbsee> nhandler: i just set one - same thing
[03:36] <nhandler> Well, he is gone now
[03:36] <Hobbsee> good :)
[03:39] <elky> IdleOne, looked pretty intentional
[03:39] <IdleOne> elky?
[03:39] <elky> s then p then a
[03:39] <IdleOne> yeah
[03:39] <IdleOne> he rejoined with a diffrent ip
[03:42] <IdleOne> think i got him
[03:44] <IdleOne> nhandler: apsss (~pas@190.80.139.72)  keeps rejoining with diff ip's
[03:44] <IdleOne> and spamming
[03:58] <nhandler> IdleOne: I talked to him a bit. I think he is gone for the night
[03:59] <IdleOne> ok
[04:01] <IdleOne> I removed the bans and -q's
[04:01] <IdleOne> nhandler: thank you btw
[04:02] <nhandler> IdleOne: No pboelm. I'm still not quite sure what he was trying to do, but at least he has stopped for the night
[04:02] <IdleOne> not sure either, it was all gibberish.
[05:58] <mneptok> WRT ImGangsta and yellowblue ...
[05:59] <mneptok> grep 166.186.169 irclogs/2011/Freenode/\#ubuntu*  << yields a single user from January 5 in #u, and our troll friend. maybe just ban *!*@166.186.169.*  ?
[06:02] <tsimpson> mneptok: they have seem to have at least 166.186.16*.*, possibly larger
[06:04] <mneptok> tsimpson: right you are, but the grep results show the same 2 users. one sane, who has not been around since the beginning of January, and our troll friend.
[06:07] <tsimpson> I did ban *!*@166.186.169.* a while ago, so maybe
[06:08] <tsimpson> but I'd prefer staff to k-line than keeping up to date with his IPs :)
[06:52] <ikonia> persia: please do not imply personal disputes, and telling someone with a persistant attitude that if they tell me to shut up again I'll remove them from the channel is not high handed
[06:53] <persia> It's personal, by use of "you".  The two of you both have irritation with the specific other person, and are less likely to take things in best light.
[06:53] <persia> And it's high handed because a non-op wouldn't be able to say that.  Best to punish them for telling *anyone* to shut up, rather than for telling you to shut up.
[06:54] <persia> Mind you, very minor, or I'd be pressing harder: we're usually a lot softer in -bugs.
[06:54] <ikonia> persia: that is utter nonsense
[06:54] <persia> What?  which bit?
[06:54] <ikonia> if someone is persistantly rude warning them that if they continue and do it again they will be removed is fine
[06:54] <ikonia> I don't expect to be spoken to like that,
[06:55] <persia> Oh, I agree.  I just think it's important to indicate the issue is because they are being rude, rather than that they are being rude *to you*.
[06:55] <ikonia> if someone is in a help channel and tell me to shut up
[06:55] <ikonia> no it's not
[06:55] <persia> Like I said, minor thing.
[06:55] <ikonia> if someone is being rude to me, I will remove them
[06:55] <ikonia> I don't need to highlight the obvious
[06:55] <ikonia> if someone is being rude to someone else, I will remove them
[06:55] <persia> What?  Yes it is.  We don't appreciate rude, in general.  But it's our responsibility as operators to not have different standards for us vs. non-operators.
[06:55] <ikonia> I don't have differing standards
[06:56] <ikonia> telling someone "if you tell me to shut up again, I will remove you" is quite obvious
[06:56] <persia> I didn't think you did: I just believe your wording could be interpreted in that light if one wanted to do so.
[06:56] <ikonia> if we need to do word play to be "correct" then we need to get a grip on that
[06:56] <ikonia> then they are free to do so and it can be explained
[06:57] <persia> Word play is the difference between "let's wait and see if anyone responds" and "shut up now you idiot".  I think it's the essence of not being rude.  I understand that not everyone agrees with me.
[06:57] <ikonia> I'm telling you I don't agree with you
[06:57] <persia> That's fine :)
[06:58] <ikonia> I am fed up to the back teeth of seeing people being allowed to be spoken to in a rude and offensive manner 10 times before we act and do anything about it, and even then we have to almost follow a script to make sure someone who is a known troll parsing logs can't use it as a way to cause a stink, we need to start applying common sense rather than overkill correctness
[06:59] <mneptok> welcome to IRC
[06:59] <persia> I very much do not support people being allowed to be spoken to in a rude and offensive manner.
[06:59] <persia> I just think we have a moral responsibility to trim our responses to that sort of thing such that we cannot be accused of sinking to their level.
[07:00] <ikonia> I could not disagree more
[07:00] <persia> Then what separates us from trolls, other than an @?
[07:00] <ikonia> I'll leave now. bye
[07:00] <mneptok> persia: our mirrors vs. their mirrors?
[07:00] <persia> mneptok, heh
[07:05] <elky> Roughly the same thing that separates me from any guest to my house, I'd assume.
[08:08] <_jesse_> can we kick littlerue ?
[08:08]  * mneptok looks
[08:09] <_jesse_> can we kick littlerue ?
[08:09] <_jesse_> Don't know if the first one made it through, wasn't actually in channel yet
[08:14] <_jesse_> Thank you mneptok :)
[08:36] <ardchoille> spamming in #ubuntu
[08:36] <ardchoille> three nicks all beginning with ucen
[08:38] <ardchoille> I tried the !ops trigger but it looks like it was removed
[08:59] <elky> Is ardchoille on bot ignore?
[09:02] <bazhang> he missed the | when he called !ops
[09:08] <bazhang> CVE-2009-3555
[11:04] <Tm_T> ikonia: did you explain to jennie of the ban?
[11:06] <ikonia> she logged off, but she got told in ##windows about it too
[11:07] <ikonia> hence why she quit as she got busted
[11:08] <Tm_T> right
[11:08] <ikonia> it is commented in BT though
[11:08] <Tm_T> thanks (:
[11:23] <ikonia> MadHaTTer_666: you're currently banned from the #ubuntu channel and forwarded to this channel. Do you wish to resolve this matter and gain access to #ubuntu again ?
[11:24] <MadHaTTer_666> yes
[11:24] <ikonia> MadHaTTer_666: ok, then I need you to stop swearing and stop cutting down swear words, I asked you, then kicked you, and have now been force to ban you as you refuse to comply
[11:25] <MadHaTTer_666> im banned cause so0me stuck up 4th grader doesnt like ppl whop cuss when they talk ohh wait that was u lol
[11:25] <ikonia> MadHaTTer_666: I've just explained why you're banned, and if you chose to not accept that, that is your decision
[11:25] <ikonia> MadHaTTer_666: if you can agree to stop swearing we can resolve this
[11:26] <MadHaTTer_666> i never swore at anyone
[11:26] <ikonia> the ubuntu channel has rules of no bad language, if you can't follow this rules, you will not be allowed to use the channel
[11:26] <ikonia> MadHaTTer_666: then why did you just say I don't like people who cuss when they talk
[11:26] <ikonia> if you where not cussing
[11:27] <MadHaTTer_666> i didnt say i dont cuss i said i didnt cuss at anyone
[11:27] <ikonia> it doesn't matter
[11:27] <ikonia> cussing to no-one is unacceptable
[11:27] <MadHaTTer_666> yes uit does
[11:27] <ikonia> I'm telling you the rules, if does matter in the Ubuntu channels
[11:28] <MadHaTTer_666> ur really a fkin stuck up lil prick with a fkin nepolien complex ahh?
[11:28] <ikonia> MadHaTTer_666: ok, then we are done. Bye
[11:28] <MadHaTTer_666> ill take that as a yes
[11:28] <ikonia> please leave the channel and come back when you wish to resolve your ban
[11:29] <MadHaTTer_666> i do wish to resolve it
[11:29] <ikonia> MadHaTTer_666: ok, then you need to accept the rules, stop being abusive towarwds people and agree to control your language
[11:29] <MadHaTTer_666> what ur asking for is for me to impose a speach impediment on myself because the way i talk interfears with your bullshit sencibilities
[11:30] <ikonia> yes, that is what I am asking
[11:30] <MadHaTTer_666> btw i havent been abusive towards anyone but urself\
[11:30] <ikonia> well, actually, it's not what I'm asking as you didn't respond to asking. That is what I am telling you to do to gain access to the ubuntu channels
[11:30] <MadHaTTer_666> and only cause ur pulling this shit
[11:30] <ikonia> MadHaTTer_666: I've told you you swore in the channel, that is acceptable and you've been abusive to me personally. Both are unacceptable
[11:31] <knome> *unacceptable
[11:31] <ikonia> MadHaTTer_666: I'll ask one last time, can you agree to follow the rules I've explained to you
[11:31] <MadHaTTer_666> like i saidf ive only been abusive to u personially because your trying to disable me
[11:31] <ikonia> ok, I'm done now.
[11:32] <MadHaTTer_666> yeah i can agree to it
[11:32] <ikonia> I'm not wasting any time, please leave the channel and only rejoin when you can accept the rules of channel
[11:32] <ikonia> MadHaTTer_666: come back in 48 hours and we can review your atttiude then
[11:32] <ikonia> MadHaTTer_666: too late, I've given you ammple time and only now that I've withdrawn the offer do you change
[11:32] <MadHaTTer_666> lol i can accept them
[11:32] <ikonia> too late
[11:32] <ikonia> I'm not laughing
[11:32] <ikonia> Come back in 48 hours please
[11:32] <MadHaTTer_666> lmfao
[11:33] <ikonia> please leave
[11:33] <MadHaTTer_666> no i was only here cause someone told me to come here
[11:33] <ikonia> I did
[11:33] <ikonia> we have been unable to resolve your ban at this time, please rejoin in 48 hours and we can review it then
[11:33] <MadHaTTer_666> then upon entering ur being a dik to me
[11:33] <ikonia> !ops | MadHaTTer_666 persistant abuse from MadHaTTer_666 will not leave
[11:34] <jpds> Alright.
[11:34] <MadHaTTer_666> cvry to mommy u really r a 6 year old
[11:35] <knome> i think it would be better if the !ops call was sent from and to query.
[11:35] <ikonia> knome: why ?
[11:35] <MadHaTTer_666> lol
[11:35] <MadHaTTer_666> lmfao
[11:35] <MadHaTTer_666> that was my question
[11:36] <ikonia> MadHaTTer_666: please leave the channel now
[11:36] <MadHaTTer_666> mainly cause its 2:30 am and im bored i think
[11:36] <ikonia> then leave
[11:36] <MadHaTTer_666> then u were being a dik and it set me off
[11:37] <ikonia> Tm_T: assistance again please.
[11:37] <MadHaTTer_666> all i wanted was help with resolving a real problem
[11:37] <MadHaTTer_666> with ubuntu
[11:38] <ikonia> MadHaTTer_666: then re-join here in 48 hours and we can discuss it
[11:38] <MadHaTTer_666> yeah Tm_T can u give me some assistance and de op this prick!
[11:39] <ikonia> thank you
[11:39] <jpds> Spelling was quite atrocious.
[11:39] <ikonia> yes
[11:40] <MadHaTTer_666> assistance please Tm_T
[11:40] <knome> ikonia, i just have the gut feeling. have to say that "channel emergency" is a bit comical when speaking about a user that won't leave if asked a few times
[11:40] <ikonia> not really
[11:40] <ikonia> if someone is geting abused in #ubuntu it is delt with in the same way
[11:41] <ikonia> if someone is sat there abusing me and I have nothing to do to be able to stop it, it's an emergency
[11:41] <ikonia> I don't expect to be abused
[11:41] <Tm_T> noone should be abused
[11:42] <knome> agreed
[11:42] <knome> but does the message explicitly need to say "chanenl emergency"?
[11:42] <knome> err, -typos
[11:43] <Tm_T> that's general message, not channel specific
[11:43] <ikonia> it doesn't matter, it's the highlight that gets people
[11:43] <knome> ikonia, exactly :)
[11:43] <ikonia> ok, so the fact that it has the word emergency in doesn't really matter does it
[11:43] <Tm_T> it could say "apuuuva!" just like in -fi
[11:43] <knome> Tm_T, yes! that would be nice... :P
[11:43] <ikonia> and to be honest, it is an emergency a user is abusing another user in an ubuntu channel and nothing is being done
[13:09] <Pici> guh.  A lot of red in my away log.
[13:15] <knome> :)
[13:42] <bazhang> * HozsiNekedTesoka seems to be that .hu problem user
[13:43] <ikonia> the bruder guy ?
 Ola bruder! My name is Ongavezirke
[13:43] <Pici> ugh
[13:43] <bazhang> already removed. he PM'd me beforehand
[13:43] <ikonia> banned now
[13:43] <ikonia> tired oh him
[13:43] <ikonia> of
[13:44] <bazhang> just kicking/removing and the fb will ban
[13:46] <jpds> Guys, please keep him happy or we'll have to physically deal with him at UDS, thank you.
 Come to Budapest, to UDS! We will make the bomb to {expletives deleted}
[13:48] <jpds> I told you.
[13:48] <Pici> ugh
[13:48] <jpds> It's like that Monty Python Holy Grail rabbit thing.
[13:49] <bazhang> counteth thee to three
[13:49] <jpds> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcxKIJTb3Hg
[13:49] <jpds> I warned you.
[13:54] <knome> mp <3
[13:55] <Pici> hrm.
[13:55] <ikonia> how tedious
[14:04] <Pici> how annoying
[14:09] <moose> There's a guy in #ubuntu-offtopic named "germanporn". Thought you ought to know.
[15:42] <IdleOne> Good morning.
[15:44] <bencahill> hey guys, I get "Cannot send to channel: #ubuntu" (on freenode webchat), do you know why?
[15:44] <IdleOne> bencahill: let me take a look
[15:46] <IdleOne> hmm, not sure
[15:46] <bencahill> IdleOne: weird, let me try again...
[15:47] <bencahill> IdleOne: did you see my last message on there?
[15:47] <IdleOne> yes
[15:48] <IdleOne> not sure what happened but you are good now
[15:48] <bencahill> IdleOne: I ghosted bencahill while as bencahill_, then changed to bencahill, I guess it got confused :P
[15:48] <IdleOne> possibly
[15:48] <bencahill> ok, cya :)
[15:48] <IdleOne> later
[18:25] <Pici> :)
[18:25] <tonyyarusso> hahaha
[18:26] <tonyyarusso> Well played.
[18:26] <IdleOne> is Watson open source?
[18:26] <tonyyarusso> Not yet at least.
[18:26] <IdleOne> would make for an interesting bot in #ubuntu
[18:27] <tonyyarusso> "What is Ubuntu?"
[18:27] <tonyyarusso> 'Um, shouldn't you already know that if you're in here?'
[18:27] <tonyyarusso> 'Blah blah spaceships and cargo pants.'
[18:28] <tonyyarusso> "What is #ubuntu-offtopic?"
[18:28] <tonyyarusso> IdleOne: something tells me the answering in a question format would confuse the channel a bit ;)
[18:31] <tonyyarusso> also, IdleOne again?
[18:32] <tonyyarusso> Bring on the insanity: Moon face is 99% illuminated. || Moon phase: Full || Next full moon is on Thursday 17 February
[18:34] <Pici> nethack says: You are lucky!  Full moon tonight.
[18:41]  * mneptok howls
[18:59] <IdleOne> tonyyarusso: yeah my znc disconnected and this is the default nick.
[19:39] <KB1JWQ> Might want to smack c0br42 down.
[19:39] <KB1JWQ> Ah, he sorted it out himself.
[19:40] <IdleOne> no, we catalyse first, we ask nicely, we try to explain, we try again, we try explaining more, then we apologize for not being a one stop shop for everything Linux and then we lay the smack down.
[19:40] <KB1JWQ> Now on as alfredWinI_bego
[19:44] <KB1JWQ> IdleOne: Ah, sorry.  I should have clarified.
[19:44] <KB1JWQ> He's a cross channel issue that's been booted from a number of channels; kinda surprised he hasn't already been handled here.
[19:48] <KB1JWQ> IdleOne: This is unfortunately par for the course.
[19:48] <ikonia> I'll sort this now
[19:49] <ikonia> KB1JWQ: back to you in #freenode
[19:50] <KB1JWQ> ikonia: So it would seem.
[19:50] <IdleOne> Ferrari is based on the Ford model T I still don't bring my Ford to Ferrari to get fixed
[20:03] <Pici> IdleOne: I already removed him once.
[20:03] <ikonia> he's going +q on site until we can speak to him
[20:03] <IdleOne> damn the full moon
[20:03] <Pici> IdleOne: who?
[20:03] <Pici> er, ikonia who?
[20:04] <ikonia> saybn
[20:04] <ikonia> saymin
[20:04] <Pici> ikonia: I misread. nevermind :)
[20:04] <ikonia> not to worry
[20:08] <Pici> full moon :|
[20:09] <IdleOne> We can't explain the full moon or where it came from but it somehow has the effect of making seemingly intelligent people into total idiots
[20:09] <IdleOne> I say we blow it up

[20:13] <Jordan_U> IdleOne: We just need to blow parts of it up, so that it will never be completely full.
[20:13] <ikonia> needhelp1 is back
[20:13] <IdleOne> Jordan_U: My grandad always said if you are going to blow something up blow it all up
[20:13]  * charlie-tca thinks it should be opened for discussion, with options
[20:14] <Pici> How did the moon get there? Why do we have one?
[20:15] <charlie-tca> and what purpose does the moon have?
[20:15] <IdleOne> Pici: more importantly why doesn't Mars have any?
[20:16] <Jordan_U> Pici: In ancient times the great cow gods had a surplus of cheeze.
[20:16] <IdleOne> lol
[20:16] <IdleOne> +9000 Jordan_U
[20:17] <charlie-tca> well, that answers all those questions ;-)
[20:36] <jussi> IdleOne: what happened to gpc?
[20:37] <IdleOne> znc disconnected and this nick is the default. I am to lazy to do a /nick gpc
[20:37] <IdleOne> although it would be easier then repeating this 4 times a day
[20:37] <IdleOne> :)
[20:40] <jussi> or you could just stay idleone...
[20:40] <IdleOne> I could
[20:41] <mneptok> 13:09 <+IdleOne> We can't explain the full moon or where it came from but it somehow has the effect of making seemingly intelligent people into total idiots
[20:42] <mneptok> in my case, the full moon is the only time of month i turn from a total idiot to something seemingly intelligent
[20:58]  * mneptok cranks "The Choral Sea" by Split Enz
[21:20] <rww> mneptok: and then you join #ubuntu-offtopic so that you'll be unintelligable again by the end of the full moon?
[21:22] <mneptok> i stand here lonely on the floor. i felt the pocket change, though all the feelings that broke through that door just didn't seem too real. the yard is nothing but a fence. the sun just hurts my eyes. somewhere it must be time for penitence. gardening at night has never worked.
[21:22] <mneptok> rww: you were saying?
[21:22]  * mneptok polishes his halo
[22:34] <ikonia> @mark #ubuntu its-me-again ban dodging as meowbuntu after I'd spoke to him in PM and he'd said he had changed
[22:37] <ikonia> @mark #ubuntu its-me-again ban dodging as okmanman
[23:38] <moose> Can someone ban-forward Drule in offtopic somewhere?
[23:40]  * mneptok goes to look in