kirklandhallyn: "all but the XXX hunks" ... that's hard to read;  just send me a diff or a branch :-)00:22
axisysivoks: do you have a same isolinux.cfg file that works... I cannot seem to make ubuntu installation read the preseed file ..00:29
axisysivoks: posted my question here00:29
axisysivoks: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.server/503400:29
nertilis it posible to play games in server?00:39
Picinertil: sure, the bsdgames package has a bunch of cli games, and nethack is always fun.00:40
Pici!info moon-buggy00:41
ubottumoon-buggy (source: moon-buggy): Drive a car across the moon. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.51-9 (maverick), package size 210 kB, installed size 376 kB00:41
pmatulis_related to 'moon patrol'?00:41
PiciIf I'm remembering correctly, its similar.00:42
pmatulis_i remember the arcade game00:42
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imthenachomanhey guys. any recomendations on which firewall to use. I was thinking Shorewall?01:35
twbThere is only one firewall: netfilter.01:36
twbEverything else is a (theoretically) "user friendly" layer on top of netfilter.01:37
imthenachomanokay. i see. then which "user friendly" layer do y'all recommend?01:37
twbIf you don't want to learn, and you have simple needs, try ufw.  If you have complex needs AND you prefer to learn a wrapper instead of how to do it yourself, you can try shorewall.01:37
twbIMO shorewall only pays off if you have a whole machine room and a big bag of exceptional cases.01:38
imthenachomanright now i am learning in a virtualbox ubuntu server install. eventually, i am going to get a VPS hosted webserver. so i want to learn something i can use for those01:39
twbFor my network, with seven networks, about thirty hosts and a single router, I just use iptables-restore directly (on the router); the ruleset is only 86 lines long.  It would be substantially longer in shorewall.01:40
twbBecause netfilter has simple sequences of arbitrary rules, but shorewall's rules are rigidly structured into tables.01:41
imthenachomanwell i am thinking if i am using a vps hosted service, then i might not need firewall01:42
imthenachomanso i dont know...not gonna learn it if don't need it01:42
shaunobe worth checking with your host on that one. most do recommend a firewall on a vps01:57
EvilPhoenixyou definitely need a firewall on a VPS02:06
EvilPhoenixmost VPS hosts put an internet-facing IP to the VPS02:06
EvilPhoenixand thus its visible to the entire internet and thus vulnerable to attacks02:07
hallynkirkland: why did you take the '-s' option out of debian/rules?  it won't matter for arm builds, but just wondering why02:30
kirklandhallyn: i don't think i did;  probably in slangasek's change?02:31
fakhiris there a recommended bandwidth graph application? mostly concerned with HTTP traffic.02:32
hallynkirkland: ah. hm.02:32
hallynkirkland: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/64430687/debdiff  should fix the arm build failure02:51
yellowblueIm true gangsta03:34
kirklandhallyn: uploading/sponsoring now04:33
kirklandhallyn: done04:33
_1094kmsI just did an 'iptables -F' and ubuntu 10.04 doesn't respond anymore - that should't happen right?05:19
twb_1094kms: wrong.05:20
twb_1094kms: that is by design, and your lesson today is "do not use iptables(8); use iptables-restore(8) (or iptables-apply)".05:21
_1094kmsI guess that is a lesson - I don't have remote access :-) Does it shut down the iface?05:23
twbNo, it flushes all the rules.05:24
_1094kmsso why is it completely dead now? - just did an nmap from a remote machine and it doesn't respond at all.05:24
twbIn a "default deny" environment (which is the only workable way to run a firewall), that will result in all packets being dropped.05:24
_1094kmsstrange - I tried the same command on my dev server and no problems.05:25
twbThat's obviously because your dev server has a weak or nonexistent firewall05:25
_1094kmsWill I have to reapply some rules manually or will a reboot suffice?05:26
twbiptables -F only affects the running system05:26
_1094kmskk - I guess the rest will have to wait till tomorrow - thx twb for that lesson :-)05:26
twbUnless you have an on-shutdown script that dumps the ruleset into a persistent area, a reboot should revert your change05:26
_1094kmsI don't actually know where those rules came from. There was nothing in the if.up scripts05:27
lifelessSpamapS: hey, how is cassandra packaging atm?05:27
twb_1094kms: most likely someone has done "ufw enable".05:28
twb_1094kms: otherwise, something like shorewall or iptables-persistent might be installed.05:28
_1094kmsI will check it out as soon as I get access back.05:29
semanticpcin bash script how do I redirect my output of a command inside the bash script to a file ?05:36
SpamapSlifeless: re cassandra packaging.. its about 60% from the archive.. 40% bundled jars..05:43
SpamapSlifeless: 0.7.1 came out yesterday... 0.7.2 should be out tomorrow to fix the huge bug introduced.05:44
SpamapSlifeless: I still have my doubts about their ability to support users long term.05:44
SpamapSlol.. status.aws.amazon.com is down05:44
lifelessSpamapS: do we have an alternative ready-to-roll for in-dc use?05:45
SpamapSlifeless: one that supports as many general use cases as Cassandra? no.05:46
lifelesswhats the one that hadoop can run directly from05:47
SpamapSI think there are quite a few more focused scalable data stores out there... cassandra's power is its flexibility.05:47
SpamapSyeah its pretty good05:47
lifelessthats right05:47
SpamapSor HBase05:47
SpamapSthey're related05:47
lifelessHBase, thats the one05:47
lifelessis it in use inside canonical atm?05:47
SpamapSdon't think so, but I could be wrong05:47
havoc74Good morning!07:16
uvirtbotNew bug: #719833 in openssh (main) "ssh upstart job fails to actually bring up ssh" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/71983307:17
havoc74I'm new to server admin and have a few questions. First I've got an IBM x235 with 2 36gb drives and 3 72gb drives. What kind of RAID setup would be best?07:18
_rubena common setup would raid1 over the 2 26g disks and raid5 over the 3 72g disks .. tho it all depends on your needs/wishes/etc07:25
_rubenoh he'd left already :p07:25
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ZacLnxNewbI'm having trouble with DDclient07:56
ZacLnxNewbCan anyone suggest anything?07:58
ZacLnxNewbto use as a dynamic ip address updater?07:58
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uvirtbotNew bug: #719898 in logwatch (main) "logwatch does not report cron events" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/71989809:46
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uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 719333 in lvm2 "CLVM not locking LV's properly even when set to "exclusive"" [Undecided,New]10:59
lephisto_can anyone please care?10:59
lephisto_.. rendering ubuntu lucid unusable for cluster usage11:00
lephisto_(except you wanna ruin the whole datacetnter)11:00
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lephisto_no one cares, really?11:36
lephisto_i'm uncertain what to do11:43
twbWait for someone to triage the ticket, I imagine11:50
aliverius$ sudo smartctl --attributes --log=selftest --quietmode=errorsonly /dev/sdb11:54
aliveriusNum  Test_Description    Status                  Remaining  LifeTime(hours)  LBA_of_first_error11:54
aliverius# 1  Extended offline    Completed: read failure       40%         0         278082836011:54
aliveriusthis means i have a faulty disk right?11:54
patdk-lapor a bad sector that hasn't been relocated11:57
twbpatdk-lap: yes12:10
twbIf a self-test fails, start shopping for a new disk12:11
twbThe other error threshold stuff in smartctl is more paranoid, I tend to only look at self-test results12:11
aliveriuspatdk-lap: twb so it is serious or can i take other measures?12:59
aliveriuslke letting the disk relocate the sector...12:59
twbaliverius: go buy a new disk12:59
aliveriusi will rma that one12:59
aliveriusfor the second time13:00
aliveriusi was going to rebuid the raid 113:00
aliveriusi havent done it before so at least let me educate myself before sending it back!13:01
patdk-wk_aliverius, you can attempt to make the disk relocate it, by writeing to that sector13:02
patdk-wk_in my experiance though, it doesn't work well, and just rma it13:03
aliveriusi will rma it13:03
aliveriusafterall i forced it to work:13:03
aliveriuswhen i first connected it it was doing some spinning noises and the system couldnot detect it at boot13:04
aliveriusso i gave it a little kick13:04
aliveriusand that fixed the problem:P13:04
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aliveriusif either the bad sector was created by me or it was there already, i will rma it13:06
aliveriusi just did the smart test in case i could avoid it13:07
patdk-wkhmm, you can't create bad sectors :)13:09
twbpatdk-wk: open the drive up in a dusty workshop13:09
patdk-wktwb, in normal usage :)13:09
patdk-wksure, a hammer always works :)13:09
twbshake it, then13:09
patdk-wktwb, normal usage by people >5years old :)13:09
twbHmm, why is my custom linux-image .deb 438MiB wide?13:11
* patdk-wk always perferred his binarys long, vs wide13:12
twbBecause dbg13:12
twbWhen you copy Debian's .config, you get -dbg turned on, but upstream's make deb-pkg doesn't know about it13:13
twbNo wonder I needed like 12GiB13:13
aliveriuscan you guys help me rebuild the raid 1 array?13:18
twbDo I look psychic?13:26
JamesPagehggdh, zul: I just completed a minimal virtual install ISO test case - it all looks OK but the kernel installed is -generic-pae rather than -virtual13:27
zulfor lucid or natty?13:27
patdk-wktwb, yes13:29
twbFunny, that's not what you thought.13:30
JamesPagezul: lucid13:38
zulJamesPage: weird ill try today13:38
RoAkSoAxmorninh sll14:08
compdocwho is this sll person of which you speak?!14:11
uvirtbotNew bug: #720071 in munin (main) "munin-node amavis spam stats" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72007114:11
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b0gatyr_anyone with a trimonitor setup?14:16
RoAkSoAxkirkland: ping?14:19
kirklandRoAkSoAx: pong14:24
RoAkSoAxkirkland: Howdy!! Do you think we should ship the second stage action for powersave by FF? Anything else you'd like to see in PowerNap before that date?14:24
kirklandRoAkSoAx: hmm14:25
kirklandRoAkSoAx: i have not tested the 2nd stage yet14:25
kirklandRoAkSoAx: don't enable it by default14:25
kirklandRoAkSoAx: but if you're happy with it, then sure, ship it by FF14:26
RoAkSoAxkirkland: haven't yet implemented it :)14:26
kirklandRoAkSoAx: oh, well, don't rush it14:26
kirklandRoAkSoAx: PowerNap is looking *awesome* for Natty as it is14:26
kirklandRoAkSoAx: i thought of one thing this week... (forgotten it at the moment)14:26
RoAkSoAxkirkland: PowerNap in natty indeed rocks!!14:27
RoAkSoAxkirkland: when it comes back to your mind just let me know. Btw. where you able to figure out why things failed in your case?14:27
kirklandRoAkSoAx: it's working great now14:27
kirklandRoAkSoAx: oh, i remember14:27
kirklandRoAkSoAx: we do need a powerwake-now utility14:27
kirklandRoAkSoAx: that does a pm-powersave false14:28
kirklandRoAkSoAx: and fixes the state in powernapd14:28
kirklandRoAkSoAx: it should really just send a signal to powernapd14:28
kirklandRoAkSoAx: and let powernapd handle it14:28
kirklandRoAkSoAx: and then we need to call that in the powernap upstart script on pre-stop14:28
kirklandRoAkSoAx: so that if someone does "sudo stop powernap", it will undo the powersave state14:29
kirklandRoAkSoAx: otherwise, things get a little out of wack, if your system is powernapping, and then you kill powernapd from upstart14:29
RoAkSoAxkirkland: ok cool. Yeah I'll add the powerwake-now tool today14:30
kirklandRoAkSoAx: powerwake-now should be a *really* simple shell script, that just sends SIGUSR1 or SIGUSR2 to powernapd14:31
kirklandRoAkSoAx: powernapd needs a handler for SIGUSR214:31
RoAkSoAxkirkland: yeah, will be exactly the same as powernap-now14:32
edgeI'm having trouble finding the documentation on adding things to the startup on 10.10. Does anybody have that handy? i want to start some services at boot.14:55
hallynedge: you're looking for upstart documentation15:03
hallynSpamapS: ^ where would you say a beginner should start looking?15:04
uvirtbotNew bug: #711809 in samba (main) "package samba-common 2:3.4.7~dfsg-1ubuntu3.3 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 10" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/71180915:05
edgehallyn: having the name helps thanks. I didn't know what ubuntu called that system15:05
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RoAkSoAxSpamapS: ping?15:29
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RoAkSoAxkirkland: http://paste.ubuntu.com/567721/15:59
FrenkHey, I have a question. One person with a certain IP cant connect to the server. I cleared denyhosts, and iptables -L |grep IP doesnt show it16:00
kirklandRoAkSoAx: don't "exec" that16:00
kirklandRoAkSoAx: i don't think you want to "exec" that16:01
kirklandRoAkSoAx: and drop the full path16:01
RoAkSoAxkirkland: oki16:01
kirklandRoAkSoAx: just use "powerwake-now" in pre-stop16:01
kirklandpowerwake-now || true16:01
RoAkSoAxkirkland: alright. Anyways, when powerwake-now is issued, then powernapd will evaluate if it is in powersave mode. If it is, it will take recover action and restart everything. if not, will do nothing16:03
FrenkWhere do I have to look?16:03
SpamapShallyn: re startup docs, upstart.ubuntu.com16:08
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FrenkHey. I have a IP adstill ipress and the person cant access services on the server. Even ping does not work. For all others it does work well. There is no entry in deny-hosts or iptables. Any suggestions?16:15
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RoAkSoAxkirkland: it seems that I'll have to put an sleep 2 or so in the pre-stop part. Otherwise, the daemon will stop before actually taking recover action16:41
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hggdhsmoser: do we have an ec2 kernel for Karmic proposed?17:06
smoserhggdh, no. you want me to spin a karmic with --proposed to get kernels uploaded ?17:09
hggdhsmoser: yes, please17:14
FrenkHello,  I need your advice! I can not connect to a server, even I can not ping the server. I can tracoroute it and it ends one ip-adress before my server. then the connection is timed out. I cleared hosts.deny and all ip-table rules. The laptop can access any other website and service. =(17:15
smoserhggdh, karmic-server karmic-server-uec-20110216 is being built17:16
smosermaybe 8 hours until it is completely published17:17
hggdhsmoser: thank you17:17
hggdhsmoser: btw, did you spin a hardy-proposed also?17:17
bluethundrI am attempting to add a route to ubuntu 10.10 server but so far unsuccessful17:19
bluethundrI would appreciate any help you may provide17:19
smoserhggdh, hardy is diferent.17:21
smoseri need to get a ppa build of the kernel from jjohansen17:21
smoserhardy is a mess for this17:21
jjohansensmoser: why a ppa over the build that already exists for hardy?17:22
smoseror, if i can get a non-ppa build of the ec2 kernel for hardy, i'll collect the kernel and ramdisk and put them in -sandbox17:22
smoserwell, for one, at the moment, no modules17:22
smoserbut for two, we need it in the ppa17:22
smoseri think it is probably best to do it with -sandbox at first until we've tested, adn then push it to our ppa when its good (at which point hardy builds will pull from it)17:23
jjohansensmoser: right but what is going wrong that we need a new ppa verses using the regular build17:23
smoserbut, from jjohansen i need a linux-modules17:23
smoserso, nothing really i guess.17:23
RoAkSoAxkirkland: /win 417:31
kirklandRoAkSoAx: ?17:32
RoAkSoAxkirkland: happens to me all the time17:32
RoAkSoAxkirkland: sry. anyways, just finished with the changes to powernap. You can test now and upload if everything looks good :)17:33
kirklandRoAkSoAx: cool;  will be later this evening17:36
kirklandRoAkSoAx: i'm virtual sprinting today on something else ;-)17:36
RoAkSoAxkirkland: no worries :) I have cluster stuff to work on anyways :)17:36
uvirtbotNew bug: #720210 in qemu-kvm (main) "Ubuntu 10.10 guests don't boot with natty qemu-kvm 0.14-rc1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72021017:42
ahasenackhey, is there a ppa for euca2ools? I'm on lucid and have 1.2-0ubuntu10.118:08
ahasenackthe eucalyptus site has a debian repository, but not ubuntu, I might try that18:11
zulhggdh: im going to re-install cempedak19:10
fullstopHi all.  I'm setting up NFS4 between a few hosts following this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo19:11
fullstopI have it working.  I'd like to allow group read / write between hosts, but I'm having permission problems.19:12
smoserhggdh, kernels/ramdisks for hardy are on their way up to ubuntu-testing buckets19:26
smoseri'll pastebin you something when i have it19:27
hggdhsmoser: thank you19:39
JamesPagezul: did you get a change to look at the lucid minimal install?19:39
zulnot yet but i will19:39
hggdhJamesPage, zul: looking at it (free time)19:39
JamesPagehggdh: thats great - thanks.19:40
JamesPagehggdh: I'm never sure which kernel should be installed for which type of install19:40
smoserhggdh, jjohansen just fyi, i updated https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UEC/Images/Publishing as to how to collect the hardy kernels and ramdisks19:40
lenios_does anyone know where (if available) to find how well a package has been tested?19:41
smoserhggdh, http://paste.ubuntu.com/567816/ <--- kernels and ramdisks are there19:41
hggdhJamesPage: it got hit by a time out (80 min, and nothing). I will run it by hand and see what gives19:41
hggdhsmoser: thank you19:42
RoAkSoAxzul: I have cluster-agents almost ready. Will have it ready after lunch19:42
smoserfor haryd, you'll just have to launch an instance with that kernel and that ramdisk19:42
* RoAkSoAx lunch19:42
zulRoAkSoAx ac19:42
sp00fzcan anyone tell me what does boot flags mean during encryption setup ?19:49
JasonMSPIm running a postfix, dovecot, mysql combination on my server.  Any good recommendations for an admin/gui tool?20:00
Saturn2888does anyone know which IRC channel I can use to get help with the ftp application? I'm trying to move a directory recursively from my machine to an FTP host. It's a long story, but I can only do it over FTP so I'm trying my best to use the put or send commands to do it, and those are only going to work with files, not directories20:01
hallyndont' suppose you can make a tarball of it, xfer that, and extract it at the other end?20:04
genii-aroundSaturn2888: Have you tried something like mput -r *20:07
hggdhsmoser: which AMI should I use?20:08
Saturn2888mput? oh lemme try. genii-around from command line or ftp>? I was trying ncftpput just now and that didn't work either.20:11
genii-aroundSaturn2888: It's a command you can use from inside ftp20:12
Saturn2888genii-around: yeah, doing that now20:12
Saturn2888genii-around: local: -r: No such file or directory20:12
Saturn2888genii-around: it works w/ wildcards I think. I did /* and it started, but it's making the remote locations the same as local which is causing it to mess up20:14
genii-aroundSaturn2888: Well, depending on how many directories you have you might want to just do it manually. like use mkdir, cd into it, then use mput with full pathname and wildcard to put all from local dir named foobar into remote dir you just made called foobar , etc20:20
genii-aroundApologies on lag, work got quite busy20:20
Saturn2888genii-around: I'm doing more tan 500 files :P20:21
genii-aroundSaturn2888: But roughly how many nested directories?20:23
Saturn2888genii-around: it's okay, I used Windows :P. A lot easier that way20:25
Saturn2888it was a lot. 5 deep20:25
genii-aroundToo bad they don't let you use scp20:25
Saturn2888genii-around: I know! Haha. but actually, it was  ton of really small files and transferred really slowly over SFTP but was quick over FTP (trying to move over to a new server with SFTP, but have to use FTP for now)20:28
Saturn2888genii-around: thanks though :)20:37
kirklandhallyn: can you take a look at Bug 720210 ?20:50
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 720210 in qemu-kvm "Ubuntu 10.10 guests don't boot with natty qemu-kvm 0.14-rc1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72021020:50
kirklandhallyn: possible regression20:51
hallynyeh I saw it go by20:55
hallyndid notice he's using -vga vmware, but haven't reproduced yet20:56
hallyndoes 'bzr revert -r3006' revert *to* commit 3006, or revert commit 3006?20:57
hallynah, i see20:57
hallynkirkland: -vga vmware with a natty image fails similarly for me.  Waiting for a maveirck iamge to clone to test separately21:00
kirklandhallyn: $ kvm -m 1024 -smp 2 -hda natty-desktop.img -vga vmware21:01
kirklandhallyn: works like a champ21:01
kirklandhallyn: what's most impressive is that it can do 2360x1770 resolution ;-)21:02
kirklandhallyn: and qemu scaling actually let's that fly!21:02
kirklandhallyn: on my 1280x800 x201 :-)21:02
hallynfunky, for me it just failed21:03
RoyKjust use virt-manager :)21:04
kirklandhallyn: oh21:05
kirkland$ dpkg -S /usr/share/qemu/vgabios-vmware.*21:05
kirklanddpkg: /usr/share/qemu/vgabios-vmware.bin not found.21:05
kirklanddpkg: /usr/share/qemu/vgabios-vmware.debug.bin not found.21:05
kirklandhallyn: i manually copied those into place yesterday21:05
hallynphew, that makes more sense then21:06
kirklandhallyn: okay, we need qemu-kvm to put those symlinks there21:06
kirklandhallyn: drop me a merge request and i'll upload ASAP21:06
kirklandhallyn: or a debdiff21:06
hallynhm?  no, if you use the real package i think they'll get installed21:06
kirklandhallyn: huh?21:06
hallyni have those files21:06
kirklandhallyn: what do you have in /usr/share/qemu/*vmware* ?21:06
hallyn/usr/share/qemu/vgabios-vmware.bin  /usr/share/qemu/vgabios-vmware.debug.bin21:07
kirkland$ ll /usr/share/qemu/vgabios-vmware.*21:07
kirklandlrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 29 2011-02-15 12:09 /usr/share/qemu/vgabios-vmware.bin -> ../vgabios/vgabios.vmware.bin21:07
kirklandlrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 35 2011-02-15 12:09 /usr/share/qemu/vgabios-vmware.debug.bin -> ../vgabios/vgabios.vmware.debug.bin21:07
hallyn/usr/share/qemu/vgabios.vmware.bin  /usr/share/qemu/vgabios.vmware.debug.bin21:07
hallynI vividly remember creating debian/links for just that reason21:08
hallynkirkland: feh, vmware uses VBE21:13
kirklandhallyn: hmm21:13
kirklandhallyn: interesting21:13
kirklandhallyn: okay, well then perhaps the reason that mine's working is that I installed Ubuntu Server and then apt-get installed ubuntu-desktop21:13
kirklandhallyn: so perhaps my grub is running in a legacy/server/non-vbe mode?21:14
hallynkirkland: i dunno, bc like i say i was able to run natty with -vga std before21:14
hallynkirkland: doh!21:14
hallynkirkland: it wasn't natty, it was lucid21:15
hallynkirkland: so that seems to confirm that roland's is a dupe of our -std vga bug21:15
kirklandhallyn: mkay21:15
kirklandhallyn: can you mark that bug confirmed, then21:15
kirklandor dupe it21:15
lullabudi'm configuring a syslog server and i noticed the directive to enable --MARK-- messages... what are they useful for?21:15
hallynkirkland: i commented that it's probably a dupe, but haven't yet marked it dupe21:16
b0gatyr_hi guys, kinda unrelated but dunno where to ask I remember a shell tool that allows you to keep track of your to do's but forgot the name.. any clues?21:18
kirklandb0gatyr_: rtm?21:19
kirklandb0gatyr_: remember the milk?21:19
hallynoh, there are shell tools for that?21:20
lullabudalso, i'm digging around looking for the new approved way to configure remote syslog, but i can't find it.  all i see is that -r is deprecated, but there's nothing listed for the new method.21:24
b0gatyr_kirkland: not exactly, there was a shell tool to keep track of your to do's that you can even ssh into and check ur tasks but forgot .. however the site you suggest is not bad at all21:27
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hallynmy kingdom for a grub tree that's bisect-safe21:41
RoyKbisect safe?21:43
RoyKwhat is that in English?21:43
hoechste_zeitlullabud: if you have --MARK-- every 20 minutes, you know with this accuracy until when your server was alive.21:50
kirklandhallyn: you might ask in #bzr what are the tricks to doing a bisect21:50
kirklandhallyn: i bet the have some21:50
kirklandhallyn: or lifeless might indulge you here ...21:50
smoserzul, ping21:51
zulsmoser: yessssssss?21:51
hallynkirkland: yes, i asked about the bzr-bisect plugin.  no anwers :(21:51
smoserwhy is there a linux-xen at https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-on-ec2/+archive/ppa/+packages21:51
hallynkirkland: but i'll just do it manually.  just wish i wouldn't keep bricking systems with bad builds21:52
zulsmoser: thats from long long ago delete them21:52
smoseri suspect that is not the same as the linux-xen package in hardy21:52
smoserreally ?21:52
zulnope they arent21:52
zulthose were just the kernel that i was using when i was doing the images21:52
smoserso where is the kernel supposed to come from for hardy images21:53
zulactually it might have come from there, did you guys update the kernel since?21:53
kirklandhallyn: snapshot, dude21:53
smoseri don't actually think so, no21:53
kirklandhallyn: when i'm doing something like that, i'll often cp the disk image to /tmp (which is tmpfs for me in memory)21:53
kirklandhallyn: keep a golden master21:54
kirklandhallyn: and create a victim21:54
zulsmoser: interesting21:54
RoyKSomeone told me link aggregation won't speed up a single connection - is this really so? I thought link aggregation was done on the link level, and if so, the data should flow over both, or all, links without regards to IPs or MAC addresses...21:54
kirklandhallyn: do my test, then rm the victim, and cp the gold master back to a new victim for each test21:54
kirklandsmoser: are you going to review lynxman's merge proposal at https://code.launchpad.net/~lynxman/cloud-init/puppet-mcollective/+merge/49819 ?21:55
zulsmoser: is your new hardy images booting?21:55
smoseridont know why i didn't see that, kirkland21:56
smoserzul, no. they go straight to terminated21:56
RoAkSoAxzul: what else do I need to get configured in dhcp for it to work with cobbler?21:56
zulsmoser: erm...21:57
zulRoAkSoAx: we always used dnsmasq21:58
zulsmoser: does the new image work with the old kernel?21:59
RoAkSoAxzul: lol! cause my config is preconfigured for dhcpd21:59
zulRoAkSoAx: not sure im trying to help put out a fire right now22:00
smoserzul, we're trying old image new kernel22:01
hallynkirkland: of course i have a snapshot :)22:01
hallynbut it means bzr bisect wouldn't work since that state gets lost22:02
zulsmoser: heh you know that last time i touched the hardy xen kernel stuff for ec222:02
hallynkirkland: but that's not even what i was talking about.  but if a particular commit results in a 'grub' that is just plain broken, that throws off the bisect algorithm.  (so again, just as well that i'm doing manual loose bisect, bc git-bisect does not deal with that well)22:04
kirklandhallyn: ah, gotcha22:05
lullabudre syslog forwarding, found some great documentation on the rsyslog site - http://www.rsyslog.com/doc/rsyslog_reliable_forwarding.html22:11
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JasonMSPi've got postfix installed and it works fine but I want to reinstall from scratch again. apt-get install postfix doesn't push me to the install page because it knows it is already installed.  How can I override and tell it to do it again?22:14
lullabuddpkg-reconfigure postfix ?22:23
lullabudJasonMSP: ^^22:30
jkgquick stupid apache question: I have a "NameVirtualHost *" at the top of sites-available/default, which then contains a <VirtualHost *> container, with a ServerName and several ServerAlias lines. in sites-available/myotherdomain I have a <VirtualHost *> container with a ServerName and a ServerAlias. am I missing something stupid?22:31
RoyKapt-get install win722:31
RoyKjkg: remove the default22:32
jkgon starting apache, I get a warning "[Wed Feb 16 22:28:38 2011] [warn] NameVirtualHost *:80 has no VirtualHosts", and visiting the 2nd site gives me a blank front page or 404s for internal pages, so it looks like the docroot for that Vhost is /srv/www -- it is configured as /srv/www/otherdomain/htdocs22:32
jkgthe default is a live site.22:32
RoyKjkg: then rename the default to a named one22:33
lullabudjkg: what's not working right?22:33
RoyKI've seen issues like that a few times22:33
lullabudjkg: oh, actually, shouldn't you configure your second site with <VirtualHost *> and then ServerName  ?22:34
RoyKno idea why, but in some circumstances, the default takes over22:34
RoyKjust create a dummy for the default22:34
jkgRoyK: that behaves exactly the same :-/22:35
jkgoh I just dissite'd the default, renamed the file 'default' to 'apps' and a2ensite'd that.22:35
RoyKwhat is the servername? serveralas?22:35
RoyKjkg: pastebin the config22:35
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jkgis this enough? http://paste.ubuntu.com/567880/22:37
RoyKjkg: no </VirtualHost> there22:37
lullabudjkg: shouldn't you have a default site set up with no ServerName alias as a default catch-all?22:38
jkgthere is a </VirtualHost> at the bottom of each file -- sorry, I kept it to just the top of each file to avoid boring you with the rest of the config22:38
jkglullabud: I don't think so; I don't want it to respond to other names...22:38
RoyKjkg: just pastebin it all22:38
RoyKjkg: if you have a security issue, that should be fixed, not hidden22:39
lullabudjkg: if you don't want it to respond to all then why do you have namevirtualhost * ?22:40
jkgum. good question!22:40
RoyKlullabud: namevirtualhost * is not about responding22:41
RoyKit's about giving a name22:41
RoyKServerName and so on is about responding22:41
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lullabudthat's inside of a <virtualhost> though, this was outside, defining the default.22:42
jkghttp://paste.ubuntu.com/567881/ # full config22:42
* RoyK sends lullabud into the RTFM part of the world22:42
lullabudthat part of the world?22:42
lullabudyeah, i'm there.22:42
RoyKjkg: don't add them there - create new files in /etc/apache2/site-enabled22:43
jkg(obviously I've concatenated the 4 files together, so the Include sites-enabled/ is moot... unless that is the broken line, in which case it is intended to include everything I've put below)22:43
RoyKand symlink those to /ect/apache2/sites-available22:43
jkgRoyK: I have -- sorry, for simplicity I concatenated the 4 files22:43
jkgthis is how Apache will read them anyway, right?22:44
RoyKjkg: and btw, ServerAlias takes several arguments, just list them, space separeted22:44
RoyKsepareted, even22:44
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lullabudRoyK: you're right, namevirtualhost is different than i though, specifying the IP#'s to listen on, not a domain list to respond to.22:46
jkgit definitely seems that when I hit it with a hostname not defined in what was the 'default' config (now explicitly called something else, but still with a ServerName) the DocRoot is /var/www as defined in apache2.conf, not as defined in my second VirtualHost container -- as if the second container (or sites-enabled file) isn't being read at all.22:47
RoyKlullabud: nameserverhost checks the host: header from the incoming HTTP request, not the IP22:48
RoyKas in22:48
jkgFWIW, apache2ctl configtest just gives that one warning and says Syntax OK22:48
RoyKGET / HTTP/1.122:49
RoyKHost: karlsbakk.net22:49
jkgthe exciting part of all this is, it worked great on 10.04, and 8.04, and someone persuaded me to migrate these sites tonight to our 10.10 box... and claimed to have tested it :-/22:51
* jkg gives up, renames /etc/apache2, drops in the entire config from the 8.04 box and marvels as it all just works22:57
jkggod knows what was wrong, I can't see a difference :-/22:58
jkgthanks for the help investigating, anyway!23:00
RoAkSoAxzul: what should I submit for you to sponsor the new upstream release. The <new-release>.orig.tar.gz and <new-release>.debian.tar.gz ? (given that there's no .diff.gz)23:02
RoAkSoAxzul: or should I manually create a diff between <old version>.dsc <new-version>.dsc and post that too?23:03
uvirtbotNew bug: #720440 in cloud-init (main) "/etc/hosts is updated based on /etc/cloud/templates/hosts.tmpl" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72044023:21

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