[03:31] <TommyT> anybody awake?
[03:52] <kwadroke_> yeah
[03:53] <TommyT> any familiarity with tweaking Radeon cards?
[03:54] <TommyT> I was given a laptop and the stock open Radeon in Ubuntu doesn't sleep right. fglrx doesn't work with it.
[03:58] <TommyT> there's a program called radeontool that's supposed to let you tweak bits but it apparently does nothing.
[03:58] <kwadroke_> might be using the opensource driver
[03:59] <TommyT> yeah, it's the open source driver, but I gather from my searches it hasn't gotten a lot of attention, at least for the Radeon 1100
[03:59] <TommyT> or whatever the chipset is actually known as
[03:59] <kwadroke_> might be able to do something with xset, I think
[03:59] <zillah> hi all
[04:00] <TommyT> howdy, zillah!
[04:00] <zillah> hows it going?
[04:00] <kwadroke_> hello zillah
[04:00] <zillah> hi kwadroke
[04:01] <TommyT> I used radeontool to read some registers in the video card, put the thing to sleep, woke it to garbled screen, and via a ssh tried to write the registers using radeontool and ... nothing. the registers didn't update.
[04:01] <TommyT> I haven't played with xset but I think it's not low-level enough, unless it can tweak registers.
[04:02] <az7> what isup
[04:02] <zillah> hey az7
[04:02] <kwadroke_> not sure. I had some issues with my Ubuntu shutting off the monitor, and xset is supposed to fix it
[04:02] <D0ubleB> Hi az7
[04:04] <TommyT> yeah, reading the man page, xset lets you mess with X defaults and stuff, like the font path and the Energy Star settings.
[04:05] <TommyT> I think to diagnose my Radeon problem I am going to have to get hardcore enough to compile it... or at least load the -dev packages.
[04:08] <kwadroke_> I personally don't like putting computers to sleep
[04:08] <kwadroke_> I'd just shut them down
[04:08] <TommyT> yeah, but it's a laptop, and it's easy to forget and close the lid
[04:08] <kwadroke_> I usually disable that
[04:09] <TommyT> I guess I will have to.
[04:09] <TommyT> I don't know if this particular one overheats when the lid is closed, but that would be my big concern
[04:09] <kwadroke_> I like the computer to still run when I close the lid as I'm usually just moving it and will use again
[04:09] <kwadroke_> I don't give it time to over hear
[04:09] <kwadroke_> *overheat
[04:10] <TommyT> Yeah, I'm probably over-thinking this. I always try to fix them up well enough I can pass them on to the next person with a minimum of explanation.
[04:10] <TommyT> This one came with Windows Vista Home Premium on it <gag>
[04:11] <TommyT> amazingly painful, that OS is
[04:11] <Ahmuck> hello, hello
[04:11] <TommyT> greetings!
[04:12] <D0ubleB> Ahmuck, hello
[04:12] <zillah> hey Ahmuck
[04:13] <TommyT> anybody else been following the HBGary breakin in Ars Technica? Most educationial.
[04:13] <TommyT> http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/02/anonymous-speaks-the-inside-story-of-the-hbgary-hack.ars
[04:13] <TommyT> this is the latest, describing exactly how they were broken into
[04:13] <zillah> i've been reading some of it
[04:14] <zillah> i thought the just emailed an admin and askin him to change the pass to changeme123
[04:14] <zillah> the=they
[04:15] <D0ubleB> me too I follow @ioerror on twitter he talks about all the time
[04:15] <TommyT> it sounds like they unleashed all their techniques for maximum embarrassment of the target.
[04:16] <D0ubleB> good i say
[04:17] <D0ubleB> should'nt have went after anon
[04:18] <TommyT> actually the publicity is bad for HBGary but I'm glad it's being described in detail because it will help more folks know best security practices
[04:22] <D0ubleB> true
[04:25] <TommyT> I have to go... goodnight, all!
[04:27] <D0ubleB> any one ready for natty?
[04:28] <az7> heard there wasn't going to be a release candidate?
[04:29] <D0ubleB> no i haven't
[04:31] <zillah_> im not sure i think he was going to reinstall the other day
[04:31] <zillah_> i think he may be waiting on me to give him a disc to re-install
[04:31] <zillah_> he's on satellite internet
[04:31] <zillah> oh wrong window
[04:32] <D0ubleB> ha!
[04:32] <zillah> lol
[04:37] <Ahmuck> it means if you don't know security, find someone that does
[04:39] <D0ubleB> :)