[00:00] <MarkDude> iheartubuntu, we are ALL on the same side here.
[00:01] <MarkDude> Many groups regularly meet, yet dont stay active online, so it looks like they are dormant
[00:01] <akk> Usually LUG mailing lists have public archives, though, so you can see if the list is active.
[00:04] <MarkDude> Well DVLUG may have lulls in its ML, not usually for meetings tho
[00:49] <nhaines> Gareth: /msg pleia2 pingy
[00:49] <nhaines> That's fail.  :)  Anyway, pleia2: ping.  Except in PM.  ;)
[00:49] <pleia2> :)
[01:18] <nhaines> Whew, sent out acceptance emails to all the Ubucon speakers.
[01:50] <jdeslip> Thanks nhaines: I'll get you my pic/bio/summary in the next day or so
[02:07] <nhaines> jdeslip: thanks!
[03:01] <MarkDude> Meeting in #gidgetkitchen right now - if anybody cares- all are welcome
[03:01] <MarkDude> Agenda >>http://pastebin.com/4VNM8H8F
[03:22] <outofjungle> MarkDude: i'm okay with any location
[03:23] <iheartubuntu> drank faaar too much last night... two double bocks practically crashed me. i must be a lightweight now :\
[04:14] <pleia2> MarkDude: help, how do I make posterous connect to this california facebook thingy?
[04:15] <MarkDude> pleia2, you need an admin to give access to an admins FB page
[04:15] <MarkDude> then in turn you add
[04:16] <MarkDude> there is a process to activate posterous for each page you are an admin of
[04:16] <pleia2> ok, which admin wants to pimp out their facebook for the cause?
[04:16] <pleia2> :P
[04:18] <pleia2> look at all those volunteers
[04:26] <pleia2> alright, I think it's added
[04:28] <erichammond> pleia2: I don't understand the question.
[04:29] <pleia2> erichammond: I'm setting up posterous to automatically update all our social media feeds, I was asking facebook admins in channel
[04:29] <erichammond> ah, ok.
[04:33] <pleia2> MarkDude: poke
[04:41] <pleia2> success \o/
[04:41] <pleia2> I get a social media gold star
[04:41] <iheartubuntu> whos a facebook admin? what r there resonsibilities?
[04:41] <pleia2> the admins are listed at http://www.facebook.com/ubuntu.california
[04:41]  * iheartubuntu awards pleia2 with a gold star
[04:41] <pleia2> none really now that I set up posterous to autopost
[04:43] <MarkDude> For contributor accts- just make sure your FB is not set up to post to, no amins are really needed
[04:44] <pleia2> ok, so we now have ubuntu-us-ca.posterous.com
[04:44] <pleia2> people with access to the gmail account can post to it
[04:45] <MarkDude> Works nice for posting pics, as long as they are relatively small
[04:45] <MarkDude> You can also have a landing page there, the metrics on it are very cool
[04:46] <pleia2> I think we just want to keep it super basic
[04:46] <pleia2> we have a wiki and a flickr account and 40 other things for posting other stuff
[04:46]  * MarkDude was amazed at how many folks stumble across it using google
[04:46] <MarkDude> So the posterous just feeds to official page :0
[04:46] <pleia2> yeah
[04:47] <pleia2> it's set up to go to identica, twitter and facebook
[04:47] <pleia2> facebook was really the tricky one
[07:36]  * iheartubuntu yawns
[08:14] <iheartubuntu> if anyone likes going out to eat, try restaurants.com as you can get a $25 gift cert for only $10. On top of that use coupon code "menu" and get that $25 for only $4. yes four bucks. do i get a gold star? :)
[08:25] <MarkDude> Yes, you get some brownie points iheartubuntu
[08:34] <iheartubuntu> ohhhh yeah
[08:34] <iheartubuntu> the regular brownies, right?
[08:55] <MarkDude> Unless your Doctor has told you to do sumthin' else
[09:04] <iheartubuntu> Peter Tosh?
[09:04] <iheartubuntu> he's known as the Bush Doctor
[09:40] <iheartubuntu> "earth changes and pole shifts" coming up on Coast to Coast AM
[11:01] <iheartubuntu> Its 3am
[11:02] <iheartubuntu> "Three o'clock is always too late or too early for anything you want to do." - Jean-Paul Sartre
[11:03] <iheartubuntu> i hope youre all not waiting for a 4am quote now.
[11:18] <iheartubuntu> ok, ive got a good 4am quote, but youre all going to have to hang tight until 4am arrives.
[11:20] <iheartubuntu> (if this is what it takes to keep me awake, im doing it! no guarantees i will be awake at 5am though)
[12:02] <iheartubuntu> Its 4am!
[12:02] <iheartubuntu> Good Morning wherever you may be.
[12:02] <iheartubuntu> Here is your 4am quote...
[12:02] <iheartubuntu> "It’s the friends that you can call at 4AM that really matter." - Marlene Dietrich
[13:06] <iheartubuntu> theres got to be a 5am quote around here someplace Bᴑ)
[16:37] <jdeslip> The brochure that I made with the team's help made it to spreadubuntu frontpage as a top rated material :)
[16:53] <MarkDude> right on jdeslip
[19:49] <seidos> anyone else watching this:  http://www.ustream.tv/channel/at-home-with-jono-bacon
[19:50] <nhaines> Nope!
[19:50] <seidos> i asked him about how to get politicians/government behind FOSS and he said to work with my LoCo
[19:50] <seidos> nhaines: saw it on twitter
[19:50] <nhaines> seidos: I joined in the first few, when I could at my old job.  But here I just don't have the time unfortunately.  Not today anyway.
[19:51] <nhaines> It's a good show.
[19:53] <seidos> i don't hate it :)
[19:56] <seidos> perhaps i should write a snail mail letter to the president.
[19:56] <seidos> i usually send them through the white house's website
[19:57] <seidos> jono: what do you think, should i write a snailmail letter to the president?  or do you think there is a more efficient way to inform public servants?
[19:58]  * seidos can't play guitar
[19:58] <seidos> tried renting an m-audio external sound card and mic to record vocals, but they didn't rent them at the local music shop
[20:08] <nhaines> seidos: did anyone ask Jono about Canonical, Banshee, and the Amazon MP3 Music Store plugin?
[20:13] <akk> The networkworld article doesn't say whether,  if you enable the non-default amazon, Canonical still gets 75%, or whether that was only if it was the default.
[20:13] <nhaines> akk: that was only if it was the default.
[20:14] <nhaines> source: http://gburt.blogspot.com/2011/02/banshee-supporting-gnome-on-ubuntu.html
[20:15] <akk> Weird! So by not negotiating, Canonical will get no Amazon revenues at all from people who switch, and Gnome gets it all.
[20:15] <nhaines> Correct.
[20:15] <seidos> nhaines: i do recall jono saying something about banshee
[20:16] <seidos> so, yeah, i don't know :)
[20:18] <pleia2> seidos: california has an Open Source Software Policy, it's available here: http://www.cio.ca.gov/Government/IT_Policy/ITPL.html
[20:19] <pleia2> partimus.org is involved with getting ubuntu into public schools, and there are a few programs around that are similar
[20:19] <seidos> pleia2: i think i've seen it before.  i probably didn't see enough verbs.
[20:19] <seidos> government often moves too slow for my tastes :|
[20:19] <pleia2> yeah, honestly it's really hard to break into government from the grass roots
[20:21] <seidos> i'm not even sure where to start pleia2
[20:21] <pleia2> governments take professional bids, usually only big companies have the resources to put them together
[20:21] <seidos> maybe one of us should run for public office
[20:21] <seidos> jono for governor
[20:22] <seidos> yucka is like potato
[20:22] <seidos> dare i say, it is not as starchy though
[20:23] <seidos> pleia2: i guess i was thinking in terms of maintenance.  what do the IT employees of the government do if work is contracted out to the private sector?  i would think maintenance
[20:24] <seidos> i remember a speaker at the last ubucon that was a government employee...perhaps nhaines knows him
[20:24] <nhaines> seidos: Kai Ponte works for the County of Los Angeles Registrar-Recorder.
[20:25] <seidos> nhaines: iirc he was alone in his advocacy
[20:25] <seidos> cloth napkins greener than paper ones?
[20:25] <nhaines> seidos: unfortunately, I don't have the luxury of sitting in on the sessions themselves.  :(
[20:26] <nhaines> But if I recall, he was mostly talking about working in mixed computing environments.
[20:26] <seidos> nhaines: was anyone else besides himself using foss at the county registrar-recorder?
[20:27] <akk> seidos: Maybe our secretary of state, Debra Bowen, who is VERY clueful about open source and software issues.
[20:27] <nhaines> seidos: I don't know.
[20:27] <seidos> nhaines: i'm pretty sure the answer was "no."
[20:27] <akk> (and unfortunately is thinking about leaving for a different position)
[20:27] <akk> Though she wouldn't be a "him".
[20:28] <seidos> akk: androgenous pronoun
[20:28] <seidos> a sound.
[20:28] <seidos> em?  ah?  om?
[20:28] <seidos> i'll use whatever we agree on :|
[20:29]  * akk uses "they" -- it turns out to have a longer history in English for indeterminate gender singular than "he"
[20:29] <seidos> never heard of Debra Bowen, nor did i know she was knowledgable about open source issues
[20:29] <akk> She's the one who got closed-source untestable voting machines banned in California.
[20:29] <akk> And she's spoken at quite a few FOSS conventions.
[20:30] <seidos> akk: are you on twitter?
[20:30] <akk> Yes, she tweets too -- I follow her.
[20:30] <seidos> i'll search for her
[20:30] <akk> That's how I know she may be leaving -- christian and she were having a twitter conversation a few nights ago.
[20:31] <akk> @DBowen
[20:32] <seidos> cool thanks akk
[20:33] <seidos> oooo a gardener
[20:34] <seidos> i don't know any of these people:  http://vote.sos.ca.gov/returns/special/state-senate/district/28/
[20:40] <akk> She's thinking about running for Congress and has a web page asking if she should do it. http://t.co/L7q745k
[20:41] <iheartubuntu1> whats her bio?
[20:41] <akk> I'm sure she has one on her website.
[20:45] <seidos> i am having a discussion on the constitutionality of healthcare and the war on drugs
[20:46] <seidos> 10th amendment
[20:47] <DarkwingDuck> nhaines: I'll get you that email today.
[20:58] <iheartubuntu1> im against
[21:00] <seidos> iheartubuntu1: i believe the government can be a force for good
[21:00] <seidos> i just haven't hammered out the details yet
[21:03] <iheartubuntu1> im against government instructing me to buy private anything. what if there was a law forcing me to buy windows XP? i want ubuntu, not xp.
[21:06] <seidos> are you against taxes?
[21:07] <seidos> are you okay with goverment instructing you to buy something if it's public?
[21:07] <seidos> iheartubuntu1: ^
[21:07] <seidos> i'm not against taxes per se, as long as they are spent well, and not excessive
[21:08] <seidos> i thought this was an interesting article:  http://underlore.com/TBA/?p=1581
[21:08] <seidos> "why opensource can't compete"
[21:09] <seidos> tldr:  support isn't friendly enough
[21:09] <iheartubuntu1> im not for the government forcing me to buy anything actually. private being the worst case, which is what they are trying to do. id love to opt out of social security. i never wanted it and i have no way out of it. i can do a far better job.
[21:11] <pleia2> I make my living supporting open source software, but I guess I'm part of that 1% :)
[21:11] <seidos> iheartubuntu1: then you are against taxes completely?  what about military equipment?  are you cool paying for that?
[21:11] <seidos> the vast majority of monies is spent on "offense"
[21:13] <seidos> pleia2: i think it's safe to say, from a purely business perspective, that closed source software is winning
[21:13] <pleia2> (and ubuntu is notorious for having higher quality user support, there are still unfriendly helpers but as a whole it's better than most)
[21:13] <iheartubuntu1> actually defense is only like 3% of the budget i read. im for jeffersons " friends to all, allies to none" philosophy. 3000 military bases in 170 countries... no wonder why people dislike us. we could pay for everything and then some if that money came home and we secured our own country and took care of our own people
[21:13] <pleia2> seidos: it depends on where you're looking, on the desktop? on the server? apache still has market share
[21:13] <seidos> iheartubuntu1: where did you read that?
[21:13] <iheartubuntu1> heck, we gave 5 billion to egypt last year. king saudi said if we dont fund egypt he will. do we really need to pay them if someone else would?
[21:13] <seidos> pleia2: desktop
[21:13] <pleia2> ah yes, it still wins on the desktop
[21:13] <iheartubuntu1> marketwatch.com
[21:14] <seidos> 700 billion in 2010 is 3% of the budget?
[21:14] <iheartubuntu1> whats the budget?
[21:14] <iheartubuntu1> i dont have the #'s in front of me but i will find them later. just worked through the night and freakin tired
[21:15] <seidos> it isn't 700 billion / .03
[21:16] <seidos> unless there is a lot of money unaccounted for :|
[21:16] <seidos> and hope that isn't the case
[21:17] <seidos> NASA gets 15e9, DoD gets 700e9
[21:17] <seidos> hmmm is NASA constitutional?  fascinating question
[21:22] <iheartubuntu1> good question.
[21:23] <iheartubuntu1> i do like infrastructure like roads and space exploration funded by gov.
[21:23] <iheartubuntu1> but again its a good question, especially with laws opening up allowing for private space companies to work now
[21:23] <akk> The problem with opting out of social security (or any gov't service) and saying "I can do it better myself" is what happens if it turns out you can't do it better.
[21:23] <iheartubuntu1> seeing how fast and efficient private sapce can be
[21:23] <akk> Like that house in [I forget which state] that burned down because they didn't pay the optional fee for fire protection.
[21:23] <iheartubuntu1> beezos is on the cutting edge of the new speace industry. branson too. very exciting
[21:24] <akk> And all the people who lost most of their savings in the stock market crash.
[21:24] <pleia2> the idea of it is social good across the board, not strictly personal security
[21:24] <iheartubuntu1> i can do a better job then by running everything into the gorund like the gov is doing. im for an opt out as i know i can do better.
[21:25] <iheartubuntu1> or by taking funds from one thing and applying it to another thing
[21:25] <akk> (granted, a lot of those were because the gov't makes it hard to just have a retirement savings account, and encourages a 401k through your company where you don't have that much choice how the money is invested.)
[21:25] <pleia2> better to pay a set amount now than let our country descesnd into chaos during economic failure (that's the idea anyway)
[21:25] <pleia2> it's unfortunate that people depend on social security for retirement though, I certainly don't
[21:25] <iheartubuntu1> we are pretty close to failure. the euro is teetering on the edge with several countries on the verge of bankruptcy
[21:26] <akk> And yes, social good across the board, but that argument doesn't work for libertarians who say that should be a choice.
[21:26] <pleia2> akk: *nod*
[21:26] <seidos> i'm not sure that it's fair to say that government is running *everything into the ground*, especially considering government is made up of people
[21:26] <iheartubuntu1> i read 8 out of 10 americans main source of income when they retire is SS
[21:26] <pleia2> seidos: it's made up of us!
[21:26] <seidos> one could say corporations are running things into the ground as well, so what's left?
[21:26] <seidos> pleia2: +1
[21:26] <iheartubuntu1> there are 10,000 people a day turning 65 in america now
[21:27] <iheartubuntu1> corps are doing that, then getting taxpayer bailouts
[21:27] <akk> You can say that gov't should butt out, and if you make bad choices for yourself, then die, it's your fault ... but not many people are hardcore enough to really believe that when they're the ones who made the wrong choice.
[21:27] <akk> It's easy to say other people are at fault and should die.
[21:27] <iheartubuntu1> look at GM. they failed. gov propped them up with my money and its like a total do over. they even have stocks again
[21:27] <seidos> iheartubuntu1: i think we can agree everything sucks.  but what does it get replaced with ;)
[21:27] <iheartubuntu1> how many "do-overs" can we do?
[21:28] <iheartubuntu1> THATS the question seidos :)
[21:28] <seidos> probably as many as it takes.  there is a blog i read that advocates resetting the debt in this country.
[21:28] <seidos> heh, that would piss a lot of people off in foreign countries.
[21:28] <iheartubuntu1> you rralize you will pay for that reset, dfont you?
[21:28] <seidos> entangling economics
[21:28] <iheartubuntu1> realize
[21:28] <pleia2> yeah, as a kid I lived through some pretty bad times growing up during the 80s recession that weren't the fault of my hard-working parents so I think my perspective is a bit different than some (even though I'm wealthy now)
[21:29] <pleia2> my father had a great job when he had his first 2 kids, then he got sick
[21:29]  * iheartubuntu1 remembers the no christmas tree christmases
[21:29] <akk> I do agree with iheartubuntu1 about being forced to buy a private product that has no price controls on it, though.
[21:29] <pleia2> and the economy tanked
[21:29] <seidos> er, i was probably raised relatively poor
[21:29] <seidos> 3 families in one home
[21:30] <pleia2> we rented and had a boarder from time to time
[21:30] <seidos> i don't recall there ever being talk of a "recession", i don't think it was in the vocabularly of my ESL mother, aunts, and uncle
[21:30] <pleia2> yeah, it's all retrospective for me
[21:30] <pleia2> I certainly didn't understand our situation when I was 5 :)
[21:30] <pleia2> looking back it's quite clear
[21:31] <seidos> my uncle and aunt owned the property, iirc
[21:31] <seidos> up until this house, which my mother and aunt own
[21:31] <seidos> i am not sure what is defined as "wealthy".  i mean, Warren Buffet is wealthy.  so is Shuttleworth.
[21:31] <seidos> i could say i am 'wealthy' because i have a roof over my head and food to eat
[21:32]  * seidos shrugs
[21:32] <iheartubuntu1> i dont think we'll solve the countries problems :) we CAN solve the world computing problems and offer a great alternative solution tho :)
[21:32] <pleia2> it is pretty subjective :)
[21:32] <seidos> this diary is terribly embarrassing
[21:33] <seidos> it's nc-17, even though i wrote it when i was 13
[21:34] <iheartubuntu1> i used to hike 5 miles each way in the beating snow to buy hairy leaves to place on mother breasts when her breasts hurt from nursing. the leaves would cure her problems. i used to run down to the basement to shovel coal for heating on the 6th floor too.
[21:34] <iheartubuntu1> actually thats my dads diary, not mine :) i just compute mostly thanks to his hard work :p
[21:36] <seidos> my dad delivered pizzas
[21:37] <seidos> my uncle built houses.  i worked with him for awhile, but i was never fast enough.  i go slow with power tools.  but time is money.  sadly, he fell off a ladder, and died of complications of said injury.
[21:37] <pleia2> yikes, that's sad :(
[21:38] <seidos> my dad wasn't around when i was growing up.  he did work in guatemala on "death squads".  he saw a guy that he knew get tortured and killed.
[21:39] <seidos> i left SF because of ethical reasons.  ethics tend to get thrown out the window at the threat of a gun of starvation...thankfully i have options
[21:39] <iheartubuntu1> thats terrible. my dad grew up in WW2 dodging nazis and commies. they both raped and tortured women. no side was good.
[21:39] <seidos> of=or
[21:39] <seidos> the nazis and commies?
[21:39] <seidos> or the nazis, commies, and americans?
[21:40] <iheartubuntu1> poland. nazies came in and took over, then soviets came in and took over.
[21:40] <iheartubuntu1> americans did good until poland got divided up in yalta
[21:41] <iheartubuntu1> dad was in underground army at 9 yo transferring notes across lines
[21:41] <iheartubuntu1> shot twice on diff occassions
[21:45] <seidos> i sometimes wonder if things would have turned out better if the US hadn't gotten involved in WWII
[21:45] <seidos> wb jono
[21:46] <jono> hey seidos
[21:47] <seidos> what's going on?
[21:48] <jono> seidos, working and working :-)
[21:49] <seidos> jono: i'm just playing and playing ;)
[21:49] <jono> :-)
[21:49] <seidos> why work and play can't be one and the same is beyond my comprehension
[21:52] <seidos> speaking of work and play, i should do some yoga
[21:55] <iheartubuntu1> can anyone recommend a quality recording mic? im on the verge of working on some ubuntu adverts
[21:57] <seidos> can't recommend anything very specific here
[21:58] <seidos> i stopped chair pose to share this song: http://fictionalphilosophy.org/share/music/2003%20-%20Arcade%20Fire/02%20-%20I'm%20Sleeping%20in%20a%20Submarine.mp3
[21:58] <seidos> er, not sure if you all got it
[21:59] <seidos> anyway, back to chair pose
[22:00] <iheartubuntu1> seidos.. do you have any ravi shankar?
[22:02] <iheartubuntu1> i have this old album produced by george harrison... i love it. "the radha krishna temple". the song "govinda jaya jaya" is awesome, so is the "hare krishna mantra".
[22:04] <MarkDude> iheartubuntu, the one with the full cahnt?
[22:04] <MarkDude> chant?
[22:05] <iheartubuntu1> its awesome. yah
[22:05] <iheartubuntu1> it just builds up
[22:05] <iheartubuntu1> and then explodes in pure... nevermind.
[22:05] <iheartubuntu1> :-D
[22:09] <seidos> iheartubuntu1: no, i don't.  do you?
[22:10] <seidos> time to run up and down the stairs.  2min is the misery mark
[22:11] <seidos> this arcade fire song "my heart is an apple" is kind of a bummer
[22:16]  * seidos drinks water
[22:20] <seidos> how embarrassing, how does some of this stuff get onto the shared directory of my webserver
[22:20]  * seidos fixes it
[22:22] <iheartubuntu1> be careful of the fluoride in your glass of water.
[22:22]  * seidos needs to wash away his sins in the shower
[22:23] <iheartubuntu1> use a fluoride filter there too please. you'll inhale more fluoride from the mist than by drinking a glass
[22:24] <iheartubuntu1> not to use godwins fail again, but ... :)
[22:24] <iheartubuntu1> the nazis used fluoride to subdue their prisoners.
[22:24] <iheartubuntu1> it calms people. soviets used it too.
[22:24] <iheartubuntu1> america is one of the few remaining countries who havent banned fluoride.
[22:28]  * akk wonders if I've somehow fallen into a Dr Strangelove remake
[22:30] <MarkDude> akk, can I be the Slim role and ride the bomb to ground?
[22:30] <MarkDude> Yee haw :)
[22:31] <jledbetter> heh
[22:31] <akk> MarkDude: You're hired -- you're perfect for the role.
[22:32] <MarkDude> lol
[22:33] <MarkDude> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLPnnPHkIuc
[22:33] <MarkDude> If the rest of you have not seen the movie^^^ the scene I am referring to
[22:37] <jdeslip> Any plans for a global jam event that isn't on a workday... :/
[22:37] <jdeslip> ?
[22:38]  * jdeslip wishes I was like jono and could pass ubuntu global jams off as work ;)
[22:38] <jono> jdeslip, hehe
[22:38] <jono> :-)
[22:39] <jdeslip> Was thinking of doing another one at Bobby G's
[22:40] <jdeslip> Would anyone come?
[22:44] <MarkDude> Depends on the date and whether the idiot bar was lowered enough to let me in :D
[22:56] <seidos> jdeslip: what do you have to do to make it happen?  start a band?
[22:58] <pleia2> jdeslip: I would
[22:59] <seidos> *reads Jono's wiki* ah, be a former KDE developer as well
[23:06] <jdeslip> MarkDude: It would probably be Sunday
[23:06] <jdeslip> (3rd)
[23:07] <jdeslip> seidos: I think you have to do anything to make it
[23:07] <jdeslip> to make it happen...
[23:08] <jdeslip> Should probably think of some targeted activities.  Like set up some machines with latest unity and get people to report various bugs or something
[23:14] <seidos> jdeslip: you may need 17k+ karma points in launchpad as well
[23:15] <iheartubuntu1> how does launchpad work? i notice my points slowly going down
[23:17] <pleia2> karma degrades over time
[23:18] <iheartubuntu1> so im starting work on a clever ubuntu commercial. im looking for words to describe ubuntu. some of mine that pop to mind... fast, safe, community, reliable, etc. what words come to your mind? if i see any i like i may use them in the commercial.
[23:18] <pleia2> iheartubuntu1: are you on the ubuntu-adverts mailing list?
[23:18]  * iheartubuntu1 is degrading?
[23:18] <iheartubuntu1> :)
[23:18] <iheartubuntu1> no, there is a mailinf list?
[23:18] <pleia2> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-advertising
[23:19] <pleia2> request to join, once you join you can join the mailing list (not sure why they do it that way, but they seem to approve everyone who requests)
[23:20] <pleia2> http://ubuntuadverts.org/ is their site
[23:20] <pleia2> and they hang out in #ubuntu-adverts
[23:25] <iheartubuntu1> thanks pleia2 :)
[23:26] <iheartubuntu1> did you have a belgian on valentines day?
[23:27] <pleia2> nah, we went out to another local restaurant and bar, Absinthe (absinthe.com)
[23:27] <pleia2> they had a yummy v-day menu
[23:31] <seidos> first time i saw this:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecommendedHardware  kind of cool...i'll have to look it over anytime i recommend ubuntu to someone
[23:31] <seidos> did someone say waffles?
[23:31] <seidos> ihop>norms>denny's
[23:31] <pleia2> http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/ is also useful
[23:40] <seidos> i should put a link to it on the wiki
[23:42] <erichammond> any locally owned non-chain diner > ihop
[23:48] <iheartubuntu1> absinthe is a great place
[23:48]  * iheartubuntu1 runs an absinthe site too
[23:49] <iheartubuntu1> absintheman dot com
[23:50] <seidos> peh, absinthe
[23:51] <seidos> intoxication is impermanence, and what does it accomplish?
[23:51] <seidos> *impermanent
[23:51] <seidos> can't talk about the *real* drug that everyone loves the most
[23:51] <iheartubuntu1> its a transportation vehicle ;)
[23:51] <iheartubuntu1> french fries?
[23:51] <seidos> to where?
[23:52] <iheartubuntu1> no comment
[23:52] <seidos> do you lust after french fries?
[23:52] <seidos> french fries are definitely up there ;)
[23:52] <iheartubuntu1> women more than french fries, but french fries are pretty dang good i must say
[23:52] <seidos> sex is the number 6...
[23:52] <iheartubuntu1> lust in an explosive word
[23:53] <seidos> in...dutch i believe
[23:53] <seidos> don't everybody thank me at once for that one
[23:54] <seidos> does anyone here like 6?
[23:54] <seidos> heh
[23:54] <iheartubuntu1> the nazis worshipped six. you can see it in their artwork a lot
[23:54] <iheartubuntu1> (i had to markdude, sorry)
[23:56] <seidos> i guess we need a holy antichrist
[23:56] <seidos> how highly improbable
[23:57]  * seidos facepalms
[23:57] <iheartubuntu1> dont forget to use coupon code MENU over at restaurants.com. a $25 gift cert knocked down to $4... you can beat that!
[23:57] <seidos> sure i can, i can eat at home and spend like $2
[23:59] <iheartubuntu1> top ramen, yes
[23:59] <iheartubuntu1> local waffle house, no
[23:59] <iheartubuntu1> french fries?