[00:15] <oz120> hello all still working on getting my systems online hoping then to learn more about linux
[00:17] <pleia2> welcome oz120
[00:21] <oz120> thanx
[00:22] <oz120> I wish I new enough about linux to be able to help other people with there problems like this chat has done for me
[00:29] <MutantTurkey> :)
[00:29] <MutantTurkey> @ping
[00:29] <PennBot> pong
[00:29] <MutantTurkey> whew. all lag is gone.
[00:35] <rmg51> MutantTurkeys have lag?
[00:37] <MutantTurkey> earlier i did
[00:49] <jedijf> oz120: be careful what you ask for
[00:50] <oz120> y you say that
[00:50] <jedijf> just kidding...have fun learning
[01:05] <oz120> I used to know I had builtmy own gui and was working on a AI program with some friends then I was in a truck wreck no seat belt no air bag just me and a steering wheel meeting at 75 mph now I can't remember anything
[16:35] <ChinnoDog> oz120: you are logged in twice from your phone?
[16:36] <oz120> huh it will disconnect and then reconnect must not recognize the dis as leave and somehow let me log twice
[16:41] <oz120> thanx for the heads up
[16:46] <oz120> nickserv login
[16:50] <andrew>  /msg nickserve identify PaSsWoRd
[18:43] <ChinnoDog> So, Banshee default media player in 11.04
[18:44] <ChinnoDog> With disabled Amazon MP3 store due to money and politics.
[18:49] <pleia2> people obsess too much over defaults
[18:49] <pleia2> it's like 2 clicks to enable it
[18:49] <pleia2> it's just a setting
[18:49] <ChinnoDog> Well /we/ don't obsess over it, but the nontechnical users aren't going to think about it.
[18:50] <pleia2> knowing what store you want to buy your music from isn't highly technical
[18:50] <pleia2> if you have an amazon account and prefer to use that I don't think it'll be hard to figure out even for regular people
[18:50] <ChinnoDog> I think you are giving them too much credit. haha
[18:51] <ChinnoDog> They use what they see.
[18:52] <pleia2> seems like configuring a whole new account with ubuntu one is a lot more work than clicking on the store settings to change them
[18:53] <ChinnoDog> Iff princessleia.com were the default home page and you were selling a book called "How to be more like pleia2" you would have thousands of orders on release day.
[18:54] <pleia2> I am not saying that defaults don't have an impact
[18:54] <pleia2> I'm saying that people freak out about them too much
[18:54] <pleia2> people who want to change it can easily
[18:56] <pleia2> not sure where all this love for amazon is coming from honestly, they've long been criticized in the open source world for their patent issuse (one click ordering most notoriously)
[18:58] <pleia2> I guess it's trendy to hate Canonical :)
[19:09] <teddy-dbear> who's more hated. Canonical or Microsoft?
[19:09] <pleia2> different leagues
[19:09] <teddy-dbear> same basicthing
[19:10] <teddy-dbear> they both do things that users end up either liking or hating
[19:14] <SamuraiAlba> Good bacon to all!
[19:19] <andrew> Wait, we are supposed to hate Canonical now? I must have missed that memo.
[19:19] <jedijf> all the other distros do
[19:20] <jedijf> purists...anti-social....basement dwellers
[19:21] <SamuraiAlba> what happened with Canonical?
[19:22] <ssweeny> why do we hate canonical? is it the banshee thing?
[19:22] <pleia2> apparently
[19:22] <teddy-dbear> hey, I'm in a basement now :P
[19:22] <SamuraiAlba> banshee?
[19:23] <ssweeny> canonical wanted a cut of the money banshee sends to GNOME for amazon purchases
[19:23] <ssweeny> the banshee guys said no, so the amazon plugin will be disabled by default
[19:23] <SamuraiAlba> ahhh
[19:23] <ssweeny> i think them asking for 75% was a bit much
[19:23] <teddy-dbear> I'll probable just stick with Rhytmbox
[19:23] <ssweeny> but i can understand them wanting a cut
[19:24] <ssweeny> regardless of if they "deserve" one
[19:26]  * ssweeny is actually a huge banshee fan in general
[19:26] <ssweeny> glad they're making the switch
[19:26]  * pleia2 still plays mp3s with mplayer
[19:26]  * ssweeny has way too much music for that
[19:26] <SamuraiAlba> so... Fedora time?
[19:26] <SamuraiAlba> I have over 200GB of MP3s
[19:26] <ssweeny> i've never had a good experience on fedora
[19:27] <ssweeny> i did try linux mint recently and i'm rather impressed
[19:27] <SamuraiAlba> I finally got runescape running fine in Firefox under Ubuntu, too
[19:28] <jedijf> ssweeny: ewww
[19:28] <jedijf> to mint
[19:28] <ssweeny> jedijf: no likey the mint?
[19:29] <jedijf> ssweeny: maybe there was too much hype...i just don't get it
[19:29] <ssweeny> i like the tiered updates
[19:29] <ssweeny> and the menu is pretty slick
[19:29] <ssweeny> otherwise it's basically ubuntu
[22:12] <jedijf> first coolatta brainfreeze for 2011
[22:16] <JonathanD> heh