[01:57] <cjohnston> allenap: ping
[02:16] <cjohnston> Anyone around?
[02:30] <seattlegaucho> cjohnston: I'm in for a few mins
[02:31] <cjohnston> seattlegaucho: any idea when yall changed from the washingtonstate team to ubuntu-us-wa
[02:31] <seattlegaucho> nope, I joined shortly after 
[02:31] <cjohnston> hmm. ok
[02:32] <seattlegaucho> I believe it was a change of people
[02:32] <seattlegaucho> basically, many old timers left ... many new comers stayed and ...
[02:32] <seattlegaucho> whatever couldn't be figured out it changed slightly
[02:32] <cjohnston> ok
[02:32] <cjohnston> I guess I just need to talk to an admin
[02:32] <cjohnston> to see about the problem
[02:33] <seattlegaucho> valorie could probably point you in the right direction
[02:33] <seattlegaucho> Salt would be another guess of mine
[02:34] <seattlegaucho> I just stick around to check what's going on and participate in events if possible (ie: launch parties, linuxfest nw, oscon, etc.)
[02:34] <seattlegaucho> the events are far apart ... but I do what I can
[02:35] <Salt> sup
[02:35] <Salt> cjohnston, what do you need?
[02:37]  * seattlegaucho now feels cjohnston will be in good hands
[02:37] <seattlegaucho> see y'all tomorrow
[02:38] <cjohnston> sorry Salt 
[02:38] <cjohnston> Are you one of the LP/LD admins?
[02:39] <Salt> what do you mean LP/LD?
[02:39] <valorie> unfortunately, Chuck has the keys
[02:39] <cjohnston> Launchpad and LoCo Directory
[02:39] <valorie> and seems unwilling to pass them along to someone who cares
[02:39] <Salt> yeah, there's a lot of issues with group ownership
[02:40] <Salt> but i've been around since the beginning
[02:40] <valorie> Linda is as close as we have to an owner
[02:40] <cjohnston> Have y'all gotten the LoCo Council involved?
[02:40] <valorie> and she's not here right  now
[02:40] <Salt> at the moment, no
[02:40] <valorie> cjohnston: if we would ever get around to having elections
[02:40] <valorie> then there would be someone official to pass them along to
[02:41] <valorie> this group seems to have taken the state land mollusk as its role model
[02:41] <valorie> lol
[02:41] <cjohnston> Well.. That'd be the corrrect step to get the "ownership" part fixed.. I still think that the "owner" thing is stupid.. You can't own (I guess shouldn't own) a loco team
[02:41] <Salt> right now things are a bit of a general mish mas
[02:41] <Salt> h
[02:41] <valorie> indeed
[02:41] <cjohnston> Well.. I know that the 'team owner' can merge teams.. I don't remember if the team admins can or not
[02:42] <big_t> hello :)
[02:42] <cjohnston> hello
[02:42] <valorie> I think there was some general dissatifaction with the end of the PNW team
[02:42] <valorie> and enthusiasm just sorta died
[02:42] <cjohnston> PNW?
[02:42] <valorie> re-animation attempts have been less than successful
[02:43] <valorie> first came the Pacific Northwest team
[02:43] <valorie> then Ubuntu decided no regional teams
[02:43] <cjohnston> ic
[02:43] <valorie> the state one just never got going after PNW was disbanded
[02:43] <Salt> yeah, we had been a very active team and were basically given the door
[02:44] <valorie> people really don't like being told what to do
[02:44] <valorie> which -- has good sides, and downsides
[02:44] <valorie> up and down, rather
[02:44] <cjohnston> Well.. I guess thats kinda life..
[02:45] <valorie> yep
[02:45] <valorie> we'll keep plugging away
[02:45] <valorie> our "contact" is never in contact
[02:46] <valorie> that is a current problem
[02:46] <valorie> again, Chuck
[02:46] <cjohnston> If yall can get ahold of Chuck or Linda they should be able to merge the teams.
[02:46] <cjohnston> And start the process of getting the council involved
[02:46] <valorie> it's been tried, but linda wasn't successful
[02:46] <Salt> brb
[02:47] <valorie> I'm guessing Chuck would have to do it, or give up the ownership
[02:47] <cjohnston> How was she not successful
[02:49] <valorie> I don't believe she had the necessary powerz to do it
[02:49] <valorie> Chuck is the sole owner, afaik
[02:50] <cjohnston> I'm looking at the code, but shes listed on LD as an admin, so IIRC she should be able to
[02:53] <valorie> I will ask her to try again
[02:53]  * valorie goes to write an email
[02:53] <cjohnston> When she tries, I need to know any errors that she comes up with
[02:53] <cjohnston> please
[02:53] <cjohnston> hard to fix "it doesnt work"
[02:54] <valorie> I'll tell her to ping you
[02:54] <cjohnston> ty
[02:54] <valorie> or email you?
[02:54] <cjohnston> email would be great
[02:54] <cjohnston> im on vacation till next tuesday
[02:54] <valorie> cjohnston@ubuntu.com ?
[02:54] <Salt> if you stick around here she could probably just get on irc
[02:55] <cjohnston> is_admin = launchpad.is_admin_or_owner(request.user.username, team_object)
[02:55] <valorie> are you texting her, Salt?
[02:55] <cjohnston> She's listed as an admin, so she should be able to
[02:55] <Salt> nope, i could if you wanted
[02:55] <Salt> cjohnston, which team are you looking at
[02:55] <valorie> if she and cjohnston both have time now, that would be ideal
[02:56] <cjohnston> both Salt 
[02:56] <cjohnston> if she can get on now i can stick around for a few
[02:56] <Salt> text sent
[02:56] <Salt> she's got dmin set on both now?
[02:57] <cjohnston> yup
[02:57] <cjohnston> dont know for how long, but she does
[02:58] <Salt> aye
[03:00] <valorie> I've just sent her an email with the scrollback for reference
[03:01] <cjohnston> thanks
[03:02] <cjohnston> valorie: Salt she can post https://bugs.launchpad.net/loco-directory/+bug/719482
[03:03] <valorie> nice summation there, cjohnston
[03:03] <Salt> i need to take off
[03:03] <Salt> i'll let her know if she responds
[03:03] <valorie> any response to that text?
[03:03] <valorie> ok
[03:04] <cjohnston> to what text
[03:04] <cjohnston> from the bug?
[03:05] <valorie> cjohnston: salt texted her, telling her to get on IRC
[03:05] <valorie> but no response as yet
[03:06] <valorie> c'mon althara!
[03:06] <cjohnston> oh,, ok
[03:06] <cjohnston> thanks
[03:06] <valorie> she isn't on the linuxchix server either
[15:04] <cjohnston> Mornin
[22:56] <big_t> MarkDude: what's up man?
[22:59] <MarkDude> Just found out vehicle will cost more to fix than its worth
[23:02] <Salt> i'm in a similar situation atm, thus why i don't have tabs right now >_>
[23:22] <big_t> MarkDude: using irssi for the first time took some time to get it all figured out but this is what i came up with http://imagebin.org/138313
[23:46] <big_t> MarkDude: did the oregon boys meet up yet?