[02:12] <newz2000> AlanBell: try lp:~newz/canonical-webmonkeys/wikithemes/
[02:12] <newz2000> not done yet, but that's what I have so far
[02:16] <cjohnston> new wiki theme?
[02:17] <newz2000> cjohnston: yes
[02:18] <cjohnston> whats it for
[02:18] <newz2000> wiki.u.c
[02:18] <newz2000> It doesn't take into account all the enhancments suggested so far though
[02:19] <cjohnston> didnt we just get a new one?
[02:19] <newz2000> It had some problems
[02:19] <newz2000> it was decided it's unwise to too closely emulate the www.u.c site
[02:19] <newz2000> Should look similar but different, this one matches planet
[02:20] <cjohnston> ic
[02:21] <newz2000> Hmm, guess I should change the footer to match the new license announced today
[02:21] <cjohnston> whens the target release?
[02:21] <newz2000> I think its ready to go now, it's at least as good as the one we have
[02:22] <newz2000> (as of the change made 2 min ago)
[02:23] <cjohnston> when you gonna make it available?
[02:24] <newz2000> I guess now, assuming that branch I just pushed is public
[02:27] <cjohnston> whats it called
[02:27] <newz2000> light
[02:32] <cjohnston> newz2000: i dont see any changes
[02:32] <newz2000> did you download the branch? this isn't published to the actual wiki yet
[02:33] <cjohnston> o
[02:33] <cjohnston> I asked when the target was released
[02:33] <cjohnston> lol
[02:33] <cjohnston> when the target release is
[02:33] <cjohnston> meaning to the wiki
[02:34] <newz2000> hopefully this week
[02:34] <cjohnston> ok
[02:35] <newz2000> I've got a bunch of stuff queued up for IS to deploy and they're going to be very distracted this week, so won't surprise me if it doesn't happen to end of Feb
[02:35] <newz2000> s/this week/next week/
[02:38] <cjohnston> ic
[07:00] <AlanBell> lp:~newz/canonical-webmonkeys/wikithemes/ does not exist
[11:56] <nonickname2> hi
[11:57] <nonickname2> do you know by chance if there is any progress improving/fixing the USN feed layout?
[11:58] <nonickname2> (there might be a bug report somewhere, but i don't know the url)
[12:08] <AlanBell> USN?
[12:12] <nonickname2> ubuntu security notices, http://www.ubuntu.com/usn
[12:15] <nonickname2> the layout of the notices in that page's feed isn't preserved in at least two feed readers/"feed readers", which makes them somewhat... hard to read
[12:15] <nonickname2> you can try it out by opening http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/rss.xml in firefox
[12:18] <nonickname2> the notices seem to use html markup, so enclosing them into a pre element might help
[12:18] <nonickname2> (quick guess, don't know if it's definitely a feed problem - but i think so)
[12:44] <AlanBell> works for me in firefox
[13:07] <nonickname2> AlanBell: do the notices look like on http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-1064-1 for example?
[13:08] <nonickname2> in firefox 3.6.13 (and akregator 1.6.5), the line breaks are lost
[13:13] <AlanBell> ah, see what you mean
[13:14] <AlanBell> so it is a valid feed, but with linebreaks in the content rather than <p> or <br/>
[13:14] <AlanBell> or as you mention <pre> round it
[13:15] <AlanBell> I would suggest having a little hunt on launchpad for a bug and file a new one if you can't find it
[13:16] <nonickname2> ah, just found the old bug again
[13:17] <nonickname2> (had asked a few months ago)
[13:17] <nonickname2> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website-content/+bug/613852
[13:17] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 613852 in ubuntu-website-content "USN page is too long, rss feed messy (affects: 3) (dups: 1) (heat: 13)" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[13:17] <nonickname2> searched ubuntu-website before and thus didn't find it...
[14:25] <newz2000> nonickname2: yes, there is a plan to address that, however the date has not been firmly set. Supposedly yet before Natty
[14:35] <nonickname2> great, thanks in advance
[14:47] <AlanBell> newz2000: lp:~newz/canonical-webmonkeys/wikithemes/ does not seem to exist
[14:47] <newz2000> AlanBell: ok, give me a couple min and I'll see what I can do. I think it's permission related.
[14:48] <AlanBell> ah, that would make sense
[14:52] <newz2000> AlanBell: when you can, try again
[14:54] <AlanBell> I can see it on your launchpad page now
[14:55] <AlanBell> is it in a place that I can do a merge request to?
[14:55] <AlanBell> I know I can't to your +junk area, not sure about that location
[14:56] <newz2000> AlanBell: if you propose a change I will review it, any way you can is fine with me
[14:57] <newz2000> I think you can push to something like lp:~alanbell/canonical-webmonkeys/wikithemes/
[14:57] <AlanBell> looks like I can request a merge to that
[14:57] <newz2000> AlanBell: the code has changed a lot since your last contribution
[14:57] <AlanBell> yeah, I can make a branch in my area, that is fine
[14:58] <AlanBell> sure, I just remember from a way back when there was a branch in +junk launchpad doesn't allow merge requests to target them
[14:58] <AlanBell> I will get this new code working later
[14:58] <AlanBell> do you have a running instance of it anywhere?
[14:59] <newz2000> AlanBell: not public, no
[15:00] <AlanBell> oooh loadsa stuff in that branch
[15:00] <AlanBell> kubuntu, campfire, edubuntu, storm, ubuntuhelp
[15:00] <newz2000> hmm
[15:01] <newz2000> yeah, the license on this is questionable, actually
[15:01] <newz2000> now that I think of it, some of these are canonical proprietary. :-)
[15:01] <AlanBell> oh exciting :)
[15:01] <newz2000> Nothing big, really
[15:02] <newz2000> just I haven't asked permission to open source
[15:02] <AlanBell> sure, so the stuff in light is the interesting stuff still right?
[15:02] <newz2000> yes
[15:02] <newz2000> AlanBell: I'm goign to change it back to private and set you as a subscribe until I get permiossion to open source campfire and storm
[15:03] <AlanBell> no problem
[15:03] <newz2000> You are welcome to look at campfire, it has a clever bit of work with the quick links menu. I plan on porting this to light after the a11y stuff is done.
[15:03] <newz2000> AlanBell: would you please refrain from publishing your branch until I get the licensing stuff cleared up?
[15:03]  * newz2000 hates licensing issues
[15:04] <AlanBell> yup, that is fine
[15:04] <AlanBell> I will probably put up a running wiki on my laptop with just the light theme so some other people can test
[15:04] <newz2000> sure, that would be great, I'd love to get some more eyes
[15:05] <newz2000> AlanBell: do I remember correctly that you're one interested in the a11y issues?
[15:05] <AlanBell> yes (amongst other people obviously)
[15:05] <AlanBell> there is a team meeting in #ubuntu-accessibility later
[15:06] <AlanBell> 21:00 UTC in #ubuntu-accessibility
[15:06] <newz2000> I have on my todo list to try to pick off the a11y bugs over the next week or two, if you find anything interesting, I'd love to hear about it
[15:06]  * newz2000 looks for the best place to file those...
[15:07] <newz2000> AlanBell: here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-isd-web tag as light-wiki and a11y would be awesome
[15:07] <AlanBell> the Community Council is now following up the status of the 1.9 upgrade btw
[15:07] <newz2000> part of me says, "oh, great, taht'll be good!" and part says, "oh, great, porting wiki themes :-("
[15:08] <newz2000> really, moin themes are among the least favourite part of my work. :-)
[15:08] <AlanBell> the theme architecture hasn't really changed
[15:08] <newz2000> cool
[15:08] <AlanBell> being able to save a page without a 500 error would be kinda nice
[15:09] <newz2000> yeah, and the searching is a big deal too, it's one of the main nav methods of the wiki
[15:10] <AlanBell> yup, the new 1.9 uses xapian to do the regular expression matching to send the update emails
[15:12] <cjohnston> AlanBell: an eta on the 1.9?
[15:13] <AlanBell> cjohnston: no idea, it was in the CC meeting yesterday and popey sent a mail on behalf of the CC asking the IS manager for a status position statment
[15:13] <cjohnston> ic
[15:16] <newz2000> oh, so it's still blocked on IS then.
[15:16] <newz2000> I would be afraid to hope for anything prior to Natty
[15:17] <cjohnston> The problem with that is, is there really ever a "better time"
[15:19] <AlanBell> and it isn't as if this is a new issue suddenly dropped in the runup to a relase
[15:21] <AlanBell> I had some feedback from IS that they were intending to start thinking about it on 2nd December http://paste.ubuntu.com/567711/
[15:54] <newz2000> yeah, I remember that e-mail very well.
[15:54] <newz2000> AlanBell: I'm going to be splitting the wiki themes into diff branches. I don't think I can do that today, but it will be quicker than getting approval to open source some of the stuff in that other branch
[16:00] <AlanBell> ok
[16:02] <newz2000> So feel free to test and experiment, but don't bother doing a merge proposal. Sorry for the hassle. :-/
[16:02] <AlanBell> that is fine
[18:25] <AlanBell> newz2000: http://libertus.co.uk:8083
[18:26] <AlanBell> or anyone else, does that work?
[18:26] <newz2000> AlanBell: it works for me
[18:26] <AlanBell> great
[18:27] <AlanBell> so far this is looking good
[18:31] <AlanBell> I will show it to the accessibility team later
[18:32] <AlanBell> newz2000: join #ubuntu-accessibility and you can see what they think
[18:33] <newz2000> ah, may be info overload. :-)
[18:33] <AlanBell> I will bring it up in the meeting in 2 1/2 hours
[18:33] <AlanBell> yeah, but you can just lurk
[18:48] <AlanBell> newz2000: that is running on my laptop on moin 1.9.3
[18:49] <newz2000> oh, that's good news
[19:44] <AlanBell> I think there is something not quite right with the rendering of the menu bar below the orange bar in firefox, looks fine in chromium
[21:27] <AlanBell> newz2000: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/02/16/%23ubuntu-community-team.html#t20:49
[21:28] <newz2000> AlanBell: that looks encouraging
[21:28] <newz2000> Let me know if any issues pop, happy to help fix them
[21:29] <AlanBell> is the menu corrupted for you in firefox?
[22:58] <AlanBell> newz2000: a background colour on the classes diff-removed and diff-added would be nice
[22:59] <AlanBell> just two different colours, doesn't matter much what they are
[23:01] <AlanBell> there were less than favorable comments about the font sizes specified in px in typography.css
[23:02] <AlanBell> the orangeheader-tile.png is 1px too wide or something so it doesn't quite tile right
[23:03] <AlanBell> and a few other people saw the menu corruption in firefox
[23:22] <daker> check that 404 page ツ http://217.139.24.3:8877/community/
[23:24] <Turl> I'm in firefox, if you want me to check
[23:25] <daker> Turl, if you are speaking about the wiki here is a link http://libertus.co.uk:8083/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue219
[23:26] <daker> i mean the new wiki theme
[23:26] <Turl> there's a grey line over the text and going outside of the page
[23:26] <Turl> is that intentional?
[23:27] <daker> i dunno ツ
[23:27] <Turl> well, that clean hr is mostly outside of the page
[23:27] <Turl> that can't be intentional :p
[23:28] <Turl> you people forgot the "height:0" on #wikinav hr :p
[23:29] <Turl> also, there's no such class "clear", you should add it with sth like clear: both
[23:29] <Turl> and then it looks good :)
[23:30] <Turl> the dropdown thing could use some css, btw