[02:12] AlanBell: try lp:~newz/canonical-webmonkeys/wikithemes/ [02:12] not done yet, but that's what I have so far [02:16] new wiki theme? [02:17] cjohnston: yes [02:18] whats it for [02:18] wiki.u.c [02:18] It doesn't take into account all the enhancments suggested so far though [02:19] didnt we just get a new one? [02:19] It had some problems [02:19] it was decided it's unwise to too closely emulate the www.u.c site [02:19] Should look similar but different, this one matches planet [02:20] ic [02:21] Hmm, guess I should change the footer to match the new license announced today [02:21] whens the target release? [02:21] I think its ready to go now, it's at least as good as the one we have [02:22] (as of the change made 2 min ago) [02:23] when you gonna make it available? [02:24] I guess now, assuming that branch I just pushed is public [02:27] whats it called [02:27] light [02:32] newz2000: i dont see any changes [02:32] did you download the branch? this isn't published to the actual wiki yet [02:33] o [02:33] I asked when the target was released [02:33] lol [02:33] when the target release is [02:33] meaning to the wiki [02:34] hopefully this week [02:34] ok [02:35] I've got a bunch of stuff queued up for IS to deploy and they're going to be very distracted this week, so won't surprise me if it doesn't happen to end of Feb [02:35] s/this week/next week/ [02:38] ic [07:00] lp:~newz/canonical-webmonkeys/wikithemes/ does not exist [11:56] hi [11:57] do you know by chance if there is any progress improving/fixing the USN feed layout? [11:58] (there might be a bug report somewhere, but i don't know the url) [12:08] USN? [12:12] ubuntu security notices, http://www.ubuntu.com/usn [12:15] the layout of the notices in that page's feed isn't preserved in at least two feed readers/"feed readers", which makes them somewhat... hard to read [12:15] you can try it out by opening http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/rss.xml in firefox [12:18] the notices seem to use html markup, so enclosing them into a pre element might help [12:18] (quick guess, don't know if it's definitely a feed problem - but i think so) [12:44] works for me in firefox [13:07] AlanBell: do the notices look like on http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-1064-1 for example? [13:08] in firefox 3.6.13 (and akregator 1.6.5), the line breaks are lost [13:13] ah, see what you mean [13:14] so it is a valid feed, but with linebreaks in the content rather than

or
[13:14] or as you mention 

 round it
[13:15]  I would suggest having a little hunt on launchpad for a bug and file a new one if you can't find it
[13:16]  ah, just found the old bug again
[13:17]  (had asked a few months ago)
[13:17]  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website-content/+bug/613852
[13:17]  Launchpad bug 613852 in ubuntu-website-content "USN page is too long, rss feed messy (affects: 3) (dups: 1) (heat: 13)" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[13:17]  searched ubuntu-website before and thus didn't find it...
[14:25]  nonickname2: yes, there is a plan to address that, however the date has not been firmly set. Supposedly yet before Natty
[14:35]  great, thanks in advance
[14:47]  newz2000: lp:~newz/canonical-webmonkeys/wikithemes/ does not seem to exist
[14:47]  AlanBell: ok, give me a couple min and I'll see what I can do. I think it's permission related.
[14:48]  ah, that would make sense
[14:52]  AlanBell: when you can, try again
[14:54]  I can see it on your launchpad page now
[14:55]  is it in a place that I can do a merge request to?
[14:55]  I know I can't to your +junk area, not sure about that location
[14:56]  AlanBell: if you propose a change I will review it, any way you can is fine with me
[14:57]  I think you can push to something like lp:~alanbell/canonical-webmonkeys/wikithemes/
[14:57]  looks like I can request a merge to that
[14:57]  AlanBell: the code has changed a lot since your last contribution
[14:57]  yeah, I can make a branch in my area, that is fine
[14:58]  sure, I just remember from a way back when there was a branch in +junk launchpad doesn't allow merge requests to target them
[14:58]  I will get this new code working later
[14:58]  do you have a running instance of it anywhere?
[14:59]  AlanBell: not public, no
[15:00]  oooh loadsa stuff in that branch
[15:00]  kubuntu, campfire, edubuntu, storm, ubuntuhelp
[15:00]  hmm
[15:01]  yeah, the license on this is questionable, actually
[15:01]  now that I think of it, some of these are canonical proprietary. :-)
[15:01]  oh exciting :)
[15:01]  Nothing big, really
[15:02]  just I haven't asked permission to open source
[15:02]  sure, so the stuff in light is the interesting stuff still right?
[15:02]  yes
[15:02]  AlanBell: I'm goign to change it back to private and set you as a subscribe until I get permiossion to open source campfire and storm
[15:03]  no problem
[15:03]  You are welcome to look at campfire, it has a clever bit of work with the quick links menu. I plan on porting this to light after the a11y stuff is done.
[15:03]  AlanBell: would you please refrain from publishing your branch until I get the licensing stuff cleared up?
[15:03]  * newz2000 hates licensing issues
[15:04]  yup, that is fine
[15:04]  I will probably put up a running wiki on my laptop with just the light theme so some other people can test
[15:04]  sure, that would be great, I'd love to get some more eyes
[15:05]  AlanBell: do I remember correctly that you're one interested in the a11y issues?
[15:05]  yes (amongst other people obviously)
[15:05]  there is a team meeting in #ubuntu-accessibility later
[15:06]  21:00 UTC in #ubuntu-accessibility
[15:06]  I have on my todo list to try to pick off the a11y bugs over the next week or two, if you find anything interesting, I'd love to hear about it
[15:06]  * newz2000 looks for the best place to file those...
[15:07]  AlanBell: here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-isd-web tag as light-wiki and a11y would be awesome
[15:07]  the Community Council is now following up the status of the 1.9 upgrade btw
[15:07]  part of me says, "oh, great, taht'll be good!" and part says, "oh, great, porting wiki themes :-("
[15:08]  really, moin themes are among the least favourite part of my work. :-)
[15:08]  the theme architecture hasn't really changed
[15:08]  cool
[15:08]  being able to save a page without a 500 error would be kinda nice
[15:09]  yeah, and the searching is a big deal too, it's one of the main nav methods of the wiki
[15:10]  yup, the new 1.9 uses xapian to do the regular expression matching to send the update emails
[15:12]  AlanBell: an eta on the 1.9?
[15:13]  cjohnston: no idea, it was in the CC meeting yesterday and popey sent a mail on behalf of the CC asking the IS manager for a status position statment
[15:13]  ic
[15:16]  oh, so it's still blocked on IS then.
[15:16]  I would be afraid to hope for anything prior to Natty
[15:17]  The problem with that is, is there really ever a "better time"
[15:19]  and it isn't as if this is a new issue suddenly dropped in the runup to a relase
[15:21]  I had some feedback from IS that they were intending to start thinking about it on 2nd December http://paste.ubuntu.com/567711/
[15:54]  yeah, I remember that e-mail very well.
[15:54]  AlanBell: I'm going to be splitting the wiki themes into diff branches. I don't think I can do that today, but it will be quicker than getting approval to open source some of the stuff in that other branch
[16:00]  ok
[16:02]  So feel free to test and experiment, but don't bother doing a merge proposal. Sorry for the hassle. :-/
[16:02]  that is fine
[18:25]  newz2000: http://libertus.co.uk:8083
[18:26]  or anyone else, does that work?
[18:26]  AlanBell: it works for me
[18:26]  great
[18:27]  so far this is looking good
[18:31]  I will show it to the accessibility team later
[18:32]  newz2000: join #ubuntu-accessibility and you can see what they think
[18:33]  ah, may be info overload. :-)
[18:33]  I will bring it up in the meeting in 2 1/2 hours
[18:33]  yeah, but you can just lurk
[18:48]  newz2000: that is running on my laptop on moin 1.9.3
[18:49]  oh, that's good news
[19:44]  I think there is something not quite right with the rendering of the menu bar below the orange bar in firefox, looks fine in chromium
[21:27]  newz2000: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/02/16/%23ubuntu-community-team.html#t20:49
[21:28]  AlanBell: that looks encouraging
[21:28]  Let me know if any issues pop, happy to help fix them
[21:29]  is the menu corrupted for you in firefox?
[22:58]  newz2000: a background colour on the classes diff-removed and diff-added would be nice
[22:59]  just two different colours, doesn't matter much what they are
[23:01]  there were less than favorable comments about the font sizes specified in px in typography.css
[23:02]  the orangeheader-tile.png is 1px too wide or something so it doesn't quite tile right
[23:03]  and a few other people saw the menu corruption in firefox
[23:22]  check that 404 page ツ http://217.139.24.3:8877/community/
[23:24]  I'm in firefox, if you want me to check
[23:25]  Turl, if you are speaking about the wiki here is a link http://libertus.co.uk:8083/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue219
[23:26]  i mean the new wiki theme
[23:26]  there's a grey line over the text and going outside of the page
[23:26]  is that intentional?
[23:27]  i dunno ツ
[23:27]  well, that clean hr is mostly outside of the page
[23:27]  that can't be intentional :p
[23:28]  you people forgot the "height:0" on #wikinav hr :p
[23:29]  also, there's no such class "clear", you should add it with sth like clear: both
[23:29]  and then it looks good :)
[23:30]  the dropdown thing could use some css, btw