[00:31] <Riddell> hi rbelem, I made a couple of small changes to the kdelibs ksamba bits, do check them over for sanity
[00:31] <Riddell> they're in git
[00:32] <rbelem> Riddell, cool :-D
[00:32] <Riddell> I think the kdenetwork patch is good to on into git with the addition of the dialogues on problems (samba not installed, whatever the other one is)
[00:32]  * rbelem git fetch origin
[00:33] <rbelem> Riddell, i will add the dialogs right now :-D
[00:33] <c2tarun> There are two patches, one is applied and other don't apply because of change in the source code. What comment should I add in changelog, for removing patches?
[00:37] <rbelem> Riddell, thanks for the patches :-D
[00:38] <c2tarun> rbelem: can you please help me in the above problem I asked.
[00:38] <rbelem> Riddell, i made a small patch to check if samba is installed in the ksambashare
[00:39] <rbelem> c2tarun, sure :-)
[00:39] <c2tarun> rbelem: thanks :) so what should I write in changelog? two separate entries for both the patches or simply dropped all patches.
[00:40] <rbelem> c2tarun, do you think the patch still needed?
[00:40] <rbelem> patches*
[00:40] <c2tarun> rbelem: no, in case of first patch, half of patch is applied and on place or rest a complete new source code is there. in case of second, whole file is removed.
[00:41] <c2tarun> of rest*
[00:44] <rbelem> c2tarun, i think that you can write that the code where the patches were applied was completely modified and can not be applied anymore
[00:44] <rbelem> c2tarun, something like this
[00:44] <c2tarun> rbelem: ok thanks :)
[00:45] <rbelem> Riddell, http://paste.ubuntu.com/567923/
[00:45] <rbelem> c2tarun, u r welcome :-)
[00:48] <Riddell> rbelem: I think that kWarning should be a kDebug, it's not unreasonable that the person don't have samba installed
[00:49] <Riddell> then the kdenetwork bit should pop up a friendly dialogue saying sharing won't work unless it is installed
[00:51] <c2tarun> rbelem: one more help please, in newer version there was a folder named doc. In older version there was a folder named doc_src. both folder contains some same and some different files. I  was getting an error that doc_src not found. I renamed doc of newer version to doc_src and it worked. It build succesfully. Should I mention this change in any changelog?
[00:53] <rbelem> c2tarun, sure, you have to write ther every change you do the app or packaging
[00:54] <c2tarun> rbelem: so I should put this change in debian/changelog or at some other place?
[00:54] <rbelem> c2tarun, just debian/changelog
[00:54] <c2tarun> rbelem: thanks :)
[00:55] <rbelem> c2tarun, all the changes to the source have to be a patch
[00:55] <c2tarun> rbelem: renaming a folder as well?
[00:55] <rbelem> c2tarun, yup
[00:56] <c2tarun> rbelem: sorry, but I dont know how to create a patch?
[00:58] <c2tarun> rbelem: sorry I forgot, I also copied a file profiling.txt from older version to newer version. :( can you guide me to any link or manual that tells me how to create a patch?
[00:58] <Riddell> c2tarun: I expect whatever is expecting doc_src needs changed to doc
[00:58] <Riddell> instead of changing the upstream directory
[01:00] <c2tarun> Riddell: ok, and what about copying that *.txt file from older version to newer one?
[01:04] <c2tarun> Riddell: sorry I may be poking a lot, but I found the place where I need to chagne doc_src to doc. but I dont think this will create a patch automatically. And copying a file from previous version. I have no idea how to deal with this. Please reply
[01:07] <rbelem> c2tarun, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Howtos/Quilt
[01:07] <rbelem> c2tarun, http://wiki.debian.org/UsingQuilt
[01:11] <c2tarun> rbelem: ok, thats easy, I can fix the renaming problem and can add a patch. but still can you please tell me how to handle the problem of file I copied.
[01:14] <rbelem> c2tarun, quilt add filename handles that
[01:14] <c2tarun> rbelem: thanks :)
[01:33] <rbelem> :-)
[01:35] <rbelem> Riddell, i pushed two patches to ksambashare kdelibs
[01:35] <rbelem> Riddell, i will add the dialogs and the kpackagekit thing :-)
[01:37] <rbelem> Riddell, do you know if is there an example anywhere? :-)
[01:43] <c2tarun> I created a patch pushed it and then made changes, on running quilt refresh I am getting "Nothing in patch debian-change-2.0.6". why so?
[01:44] <c2tarun> Riddell rbelem: ^^ 
[01:44] <Riddell> rbelem: qdbus org.kde.KPackageKitSmartIcon /org/freedesktop/PackageKit  might help
[01:45] <rbelem> Riddell, oh! packagekit uses dbus
[01:45] <rbelem> thx :-)
[01:45] <Riddell> rbelem: InstallPackageNames will be it
[01:45] <Riddell> phonon-backend-gstreamer might have an example
[01:46] <Riddell> c2tarun: sorry I need to sleep now
[01:46] <c2tarun> Riddell: gud nite :)
[01:47] <rbelem> Riddell, g'night
[01:48] <rbelem> c2tarun, look for dot directories
[01:48] <c2tarun> rbelem: dot? what are they and where to look?
[01:48] <rbelem> c2tarun, maybe it is .pc
[01:48] <rbelem> i'm not sure
[01:48] <rbelem> c2tarun, ls -la
[01:49] <c2tarun> no there are no hidden directories (doc dir ;)
[01:50] <c2tarun> rbelem: ^^
[01:50] <c2tarun> rbelem: but there is one .px
[01:50] <c2tarun> .pc
[01:50] <rbelem> c2tarun, take a look in the src root dir
[01:51] <c2tarun> rbelem: there is one .pc directory it contains a folder of my patch name.
[01:52] <c2tarun> rbelem: there is no src :(
[02:05] <c2tarun> rbelem: patch applied. getting an error, If you get time please look at this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/567953/
[02:08] <rbelem> c2tarun, you have to clean the source tree
[02:08] <rbelem> c2tarun, fakeroot debian/rules clean
[02:10] <c2tarun> rbelem: should i just run "fakeroot debian/rules clean"?
[02:10] <rbelem> c2tarun, try that if it cleans
[02:11] <c2tarun> rbelem:  nope, got this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/567956/
[02:13] <rbelem> c2tarun, backup the debian dir, remove the current source tree and unpack the tarball move the debian dir back
[02:13] <rbelem> c2tarun, try to build after that
[02:16] <c2tarun> rbelem: :( same error. What is wrong actually?
[02:18] <rbelem> c2tarun, no idea right now... I'm a little bit sleepy, so i'm not thinking very well :-)
[02:18] <c2tarun> rbelem: no prob :) thanks
[02:18] <rbelem> c2tarun, u r welcome
[02:20] <rbelem> c2tarun, did you take a look on this wiki page? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[02:20] <c2tarun> rbelem: yup, approximately zillions of time :) why?
[02:20] <rbelem> :-D
[02:23] <rbelem> c2tarun, the packaging stuff there might help until tomorrow
[02:23] <c2tarun> rbelem: help means? I am not getting
[02:24] <rbelem> c2tarun, you can find some answers there
[02:24] <c2tarun> rbelem: sure :)
[02:24] <rbelem> :-)
[02:30]  * rbelem going to bed
[02:30] <c2tarun> rbelem: good nite :)
[02:30] <rbelem> c2tarun, g'night :-)
[02:31] <c2tarun> rbelem: its 8:00 am here ;)
[02:39] <vorian> yo yo yo
[02:39] <vorian> can anyone spare a shell for me? - just for irc reasons
[03:11] <ScottK> What happened to your server?
[03:13] <vorian> It's toast ScottK 
[03:14] <vorian> plus 1000 miles away
[03:14] <ScottK> What happened?
[03:14] <ScottK> That makes it tougher.
[03:14] <vorian> It over heated and fried the mother board, all the capasitors have blown
[03:15] <ScottK> That's generally considered "bad".
[03:15] <vorian> *nod*
[03:15] <vorian> I'm just glad I have an inlaw in the area that could confirm the state of the server
[03:15] <ScottK> I don't have one I can offer, sorry.
[03:15] <ScottK> Good luck finding one, I think I'm off to bed.
[03:15] <vorian> no worries
[03:15] <vorian> night
[04:01] <maco2> vorian: i can
[04:01] <vorian> maco2: thanks, but found another source
[04:01] <vorian> you rock though:)
[04:02] <maco2> vorian: ok
[09:23] <c2tarun> hi
[09:25] <tazz> ho
[09:26] <c2tarun> can anyone please tell me how can I convert copyright to dep-5 format?
[09:59] <bambee> morning
[09:59] <bambee> :)
[10:03] <Riddell> morning bambee 
[12:10] <ScottK> c2tarun: You have to edit it by hand.  There's no requirement for dep-5, so I wouldn't worry about it if you don't want to.
[14:02] <apachelogger> all my systems need reinstalls -.-
[14:03] <Riddell> ooh just in time for lucid.2 testing
[14:03] <apachelogger> isn't lucid like old? :P
[14:08] <apachelogger> Riddell: is the kubuntu mobile seed used?
[14:16] <Riddell> apachelogger: in natty it's in transition, there's a new mobile seed collection which needs a patch to be merged into launchpad to get it working
[14:17] <apachelogger> ok
[14:18] <apachelogger> Riddell: I think kubuntu-common should either become kubuntu-bare or we need an additional kubuntu-bare and have common as well as mobile base on that
[14:18] <apachelogger> common contains too much plunder
[14:18] <ScottK> just move it to desktop.
[14:18] <apachelogger> k
[14:18] <ScottK> Then it won't be common anymore.
[14:20] <Riddell> yep
[14:33] <apachelogger> Riddell, ScottK: that still does not help as kubuntu-common is based on desktop-common which pulls in all sorts of crap
[14:33] <apachelogger> (all of cups for example)
[14:34] <ScottK> Ah.
[14:34] <ScottK> That is a bit different.
[14:35] <Riddell> we do have a Todo item for that "Work out what can be ignored from desktop-common seed (i.e. depend on standard and bring in only those bits necesssary from desktop-common)"
[14:35] <Riddell> feel free to take it up apachelogger :)
[14:35] <apachelogger> there alread is a minimal seed, no?
[14:36] <apachelogger> just make kubuntu-minimal: minimal, kubuntu-common: desktop-common kubuntu-minimal, kubuntu-mobile: kubuntu-minimal
[14:37] <apachelogger> there isn't much from deskto-common I deem useful on mobile
[14:40] <Riddell> apachelogger: go for it
[14:40] <apachelogger> first I'll try to get my mobile install fied
[14:40] <apachelogger> *fixed
[15:44] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: <apachelogger> shadeslayer: dialogFinished        (        const KNS3::Entry::List &         changedEntries         )
[15:44] <shadeslayer> instead of my connect signal?
[15:45] <shadeslayer> i mean ... instead of aboutToShowDialog
[15:45] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: ^^
[15:45] <shadeslayer> darn .. i pinged him twice :)
[15:45] <apachelogger> I blame everyone else
[15:45] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: think about it
[15:45] <apachelogger> what you are doing right now does not make sense
[15:45] <apachelogger> as the button wants to show a dialog and you do that too
[15:45] <shadeslayer> hmm ... 
[15:46] <shadeslayer> i do?
[15:46] <shadeslayer> but there's no dialog.exec there
[15:46] <apachelogger> whereas dialogfinished is emitted when the button is done with its dialog and give syou the entries
[15:46] <apachelogger> and IIRC you only need the entries for your function
[15:46] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: which makes it even worse as you currently have empty entries ;)
[15:46] <apachelogger> your dialog never is executed thus you never get entries
[15:46] <apachelogger> ...
[15:46] <shadeslayer> ah
[15:47] <shadeslayer> good thing this isn't committed yet ... 
[15:48] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: apart from that it's fine?
[15:48] <apachelogger> think so
[15:48] <apachelogger> can tell you once you fixed that :P
[15:48] <shadeslayer> hehehe
[15:48] <shadeslayer> i have 20 mins, will try and fix
[15:50] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/5239 << better now?
[15:51] <shadeslayer> wait no
[15:51] <shadeslayer> http://paste.kde.org/5240
[15:56] <apachelogger> eh?
[15:56] <apachelogger> that is not gonna work?
[15:56] <apachelogger> s/?/!
[15:57] <shadeslayer> =(
[15:57]  * shadeslayer reads docs again
[17:04] <apachelogger> we needs a uds schedule app in qml
[17:18] <ScottK> fsvo needs.
[17:20] <Daskreech> Widget please :)
[17:25] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: plz make a schedule app kthxbai
[17:25] <apachelogger> ScottK: if qemu was less shit kubunt mobile would be 300% more ready :S
[17:26] <apachelogger> maybe I should scratchbox
[17:26] <apachelogger> then again that uses qemu too I blieve
[18:10] <bambee> Riddell: I'm renaming language-selector packages (as you requested). what about rename the kcmodule to "language-selector" (without "qt" prefix)
[18:11] <bambee> I mean qt-language-selector is now for kde... so kcmshell4 qt-language-selector does not make sense, imho
[18:13] <bambee> (i.e language-selector-kde contains /usr/share/kde4/apps/language-selector/language-selector.py and /usr/share/kde4/services/language-selector.desktop)
[18:15] <Riddell> bambee: yes I agree
[18:15] <bambee> ok
[18:59] <apachelogger> bambee, Riddell: more like kcmshell4 language?
[19:00] <apachelogger> 2/3 feature sets do not have anything in common with a selector ;)
[19:01] <bambee> apachelogger: or system-languages ? (since its name under kcontrol) 
[19:01] <bambee> => typo, the module is renamed "system languages" now under kcontrol
[19:02] <apachelogger> that i a silly name
[19:02] <apachelogger> *is
[19:02] <apachelogger> if I were a user I would go like "wah?"
[19:03] <apachelogger> for 2 particular reasons 1) what is the difference between that thing and the other thing where I can configure languages 2) what is a system language?
[19:03] <apachelogger> bambee: how about "Global Languages"?
[19:03] <apachelogger> though that also is not very convincing ^^
[19:04]  * apachelogger leaves it to bambee and returns to kpat
[19:05] <bambee> xD
[19:15] <bambee> apachelogger: objectively... the module uses LanguageSelector package and it's part of this package... so... why rename it differently ? secondly 2/3 features have something to do with selector "Install tab" since you can now select each component and "select tab" (to select an installed language)
[19:15] <bambee> :)
[19:16] <apachelogger> then the action is still install and not select
[19:16] <apachelogger> otherwise we would have a K Desktop Environment Selector
[19:16] <apachelogger> bambee: it is bad policy to have source code rule naming IMHO
[22:16] <ScottK> I may have a fix for kdebindings on armel.
[22:16] <ScottK> It's at least gotten further than the current one did.