[00:28] <SheeEttin> anyone know if cryptsetup misdirecting passphrase input during boot is a known issue?
[00:36]  * penguin42 doesn't do cryptsetup at boot time on his natty machines
[00:36] <Daekdroom> Has Unity got broken in latest updates?
[00:37] <Daekdroom> I haven't tried it lately.
[00:37] <ecinx3_> thanks Daekdroom
[00:39] <Daekdroom> ecinx3_, what video driver do you use anyway?
[00:41] <ecinx3_> I haven't installed any
[00:41] <Daekdroom> ecinx3_, I presume it's a intel or radeon card then.
[00:41] <ecinx3_> I assumed it detected the right one
[00:41] <ecinx3_> intel
[00:42] <ecinx3_> from software-center 3.4.2-0ubuntu2 (unity)
[00:42] <Daekdroom> Yeah, that's the latest
[00:42] <Daekdroom> and it's working here.
[00:42] <ecinx3_> was working earlier today
[00:43] <ecinx3_> that's why it looks like soemthing broken more than a bug
[00:43] <Daekdroom> ecinx3_, rename your ~/.compiz folder to check if there is something wrong with compiz parameters
[00:44] <ecinx3_> I renamed it, how do i check the param
[00:45] <Daekdroom> ecinx3_, try starting unity now.
[00:46] <ecinx3_> idk how to, i just started by logging into 'ubuntu-desktop'
[00:46] <Daekdroom> Ubuntu Desktop Session?
[00:46] <ecinx3_> compviz --release ?
[00:46] <ecinx3_> yes
[00:46] <Daekdroom> 'unity --replace' or 'compiz --replace', I'd try the first.
[00:46] <ecinx3_> compviz --replace*
[00:47] <ecinx3_> Genius!
[00:48] <ecinx3_> holycrap, i have a left sidebar now
[00:48] <Daekdroom> Yeah, that is unity's default.
[00:48] <ecinx3_> the bottom is missing though
[00:48] <ecinx3_> should i do compviz?
[00:48] <Daekdroom> Again, that is unity's default
[00:48] <Daekdroom> No. Unity uses compiz by default.
[00:49] <EOF-sensei> heh
[00:49] <EOF-sensei> You just figured that out?
[00:49] <ecinx3_> it looks a little different..
[00:49] <Daekdroom> EOF-sensei, that was an answer
[00:49] <EOF-sensei> it is different
[00:49] <ecinx3_> do you know how to get the bottom part back?
[00:49] <Daekdroom> ecinx3_, if you don't like it, you can use GNOME Classic Session.
[00:49] <ecinx3_> I mean it looks a little different from my priior session
[00:49] <EOF-sensei> yyup
[00:49] <Daekdroom> Personally, I wouldn't try mixing the bottom gnome panel with Unity.
[00:49] <EOF-sensei> heh
[00:50] <EOF-sensei> I lost my numeric keypad in generic 2.6.37 and up
[00:50] <EOF-sensei> I need it for blender or I will put a gun to my head
[00:50] <ecinx3_> that isn't my intention, i had top bottom, and no left earlier in here
[00:50] <Daekdroom> ecinx3_, but Unity IS what you're currently seeing, if you don't like it, you're better off going to classic gnome, really.
[00:51] <Daekdroom> Unity has little to no customizability now.
[00:51] <EOF-sensei> I don't see it gaining any
[00:51] <ecinx3_> it's fine.. but earlier the bottom bar had the applications open
[00:51] <ecinx3_> and the top had the menubar
[00:51] <EOF-sensei> it needs a lot of polishing before it should be default IMHO
[00:51] <ecinx3_> now they both on the top, kind of
[00:52] <Daekdroom> ecinx3_, actually, the applications are on the left bar.
[00:52] <EOF-sensei> I wish they didn't hard-change audacity for the top menu
[00:52] <ecinx3_> Oh..
[00:52] <EOF-sensei> it's now unusable
[00:52] <ecinx3_> I see
[00:52] <Daekdroom> EOF-sensei, yeah, I don't like them compiling stuff upon libunity. Should have been separated packages =/
[00:53] <Daekdroom> ecinx3_, you're likely to face problems with unity as of now anyway, and you can go back to classic interface any moment by logging your session as "Classic GNOME" or something like that, in the bottom bar of the login screen.
[00:53] <Volkodav> How can I make this permanent ? xmodmap -e 'add mod3 = Scroll_Lock'
[00:53] <penguin42> I think there is a .xmodmaprc that's read during login - never tried it
[00:54] <Volkodav> I do not see it - maybe create it ?
[00:55] <Omega> BUGabundo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines And for all others that were being unhelpful.
[00:55] <BUGabundo> what's up ?
[00:55] <Omega> "If you get stuck, say so instead of guessing; someone else will step up and continue."
[00:57] <penguin42> Volkodav: Yeh I think so, I can't honestly remember the format or the exact name - but I think it's that
[00:57] <Volkodav> well won't hurt to try - if it does not work then trash it
[01:01] <BUGabundo> night everyone of you crazy FLOSS lovers
[01:01] <penguin42> night BUGs
[01:06] <ecinx3> I broke it by doing CTRL C on ther terminal where i did Unity --replace
[01:06] <ecinx3> failsafe mode had the left bar on the bottom i guess, and no wifi
[01:07] <ecinx3> I have the taskbars with a caveat a terminal is attatched to the top bar
[03:16] <Eighteens> hello and thanks if you can help me with my issue regarding Ubuntu 11.04, I recently upgraded from 10.10 and after reboot the boot menu was not visible, it said "Monitor out of sync." So thinking that i might be able to use the down arrow to get into another os from the menu, while that was successfull i still can't use ubuntu in the graphical x mode,   I later was able to get into etc/default/grub and removed the # from the graphi
[03:18] <MTecknology> upgrading xserver-xorg-core wants to remove xserver-xorg xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-input-evdev xserver-xorg-input-synaptics xserver-xorg-video-intel
[03:18] <MTecknology> .........
[03:18] <MTecknology> I think something went breaky
[03:19] <Volkodav> read the topic ?
[03:19] <MTecknology> oh....
[03:19] <MTecknology> the topic was cut off and I didn't see that
[03:20] <Volkodav> have nvidia card ?
[03:20] <MTecknology> intel
[03:20] <Volkodav> that should work not sure on intel though
[03:22] <MTecknology> http://dpaste.com/424801/
[03:23] <Volkodav> well yeah it wants to remove the old xorg
[03:23] <Volkodav> you should be ok on intel
[03:23] <Volkodav> go for it
[03:23] <MTecknology> go for removing those?
[03:23] <Volkodav> yeah
[03:24] <MTecknology> I have a strange feeling when I reboot, I won't have X working :P
[03:25] <MTecknology> we'll find out though :)
[03:25] <Volkodav> you should be ok
[03:38] <rww> MTecknology: this feeling you have, it's called "daily life on natty" >.>
[05:07] <frewsxcv> i have a lab of ubuntu computers. what is the easiest why i can have them update at the same time from a manager computer
[05:12] <MTecknology> Volkodav: yuppers... I was right :)
[05:12] <MTecknology> it went breaky
[05:12] <Volkodav> no X ?
[05:12] <MTecknology> nope
[05:13] <MTecknology> but my other suspicion was right too... by the time i got back the fix was already out there
[05:14] <MTecknology> I think it was just my localish repo not fully synced up yet
[05:22] <elricL> So,is there X for nvidia drivers now or not?
[05:39] <Volkodav> rather is there nvidia drivers for new X lol
[05:40] <espen77> anyway to remove cdrom, usb, hdd's from the unity launcher?
[05:45] <bjsnider> elricL, no
[05:47] <elricL> bjsnider: any eta on when it'll start workin again?
[05:48] <bjsnider> when nvidia releases a new 270 blob that is built against the new x server
[05:48] <bjsnider> no idea at all when that will be
[06:04] <OhioEric83> hi all
[06:10] <OhioEric83> well bye all. downloading the alpha and testing it out. take care.
[10:14] <twager> Anyone tried gnome 3 in Natty ?
[10:16] <coz_> twager,  I have not
[10:31] <twager> coz_,  I tried it on a live cd and it looks great
[10:32] <coz_> twager,  cool
[10:32] <coz_> twager,  sorry   damn fingers :)
[10:32] <coz_> twager,  what do you see as the difference?
[10:34] <twager> coz_, Too much to list...Have a google and see it..Also several youtube reviews of it
[10:34] <coz_> cool will do :)
[10:34] <twager> I am just getting Ubuntu 10.10 so as to install gnome3 on it
[10:35] <coz_> twager,  what is the difference with gnome3 and Unity?
[10:35] <ikonia> twager: that is not supported here
[10:35] <ikonia> this channel is for discussion ubuntu 11.04
[10:36] <twager> ikonia, I am using 11.04 and was asking if anyone had tried gnome3 on it
[10:36] <coz_> one thing that concerns me about natty is first boot... memory useages is at near 70%
[10:36] <ikonia> twager: yes, is there a gnome 3 package in ubuntu 11.04 ?
[10:36] <ikonia> coz_: isn't that mostly cache ?
[10:36] <coz_> I can sdmem  that down  but it gradually rises
[10:37] <coz_> ikonia,  mmm  might be but it is a bit "unusual"  for me
[10:37] <ikonia> if it's cache, it's a good thing
[10:38] <twager> ikonia, There is a gnome desktop that is possibl;e to upgrade to gnome3
[10:39] <ikonia> twager: that's not what I asked, are there gnome 3 packages for ubuntu 11.04 ?
[10:39] <twager> ikonia, No
[10:40] <ikonia> twager: ok, so it's not an ubuntu 11.04 issue/discussion
[11:04] <coz_> is banshee still going to be default in natty or is that canned because of the controversy?
[11:12] <ikonia> don't know, it's a good question
[11:13] <coz_> it will be interesting to see what happens with this
[13:55] <yann2> hello! wanted to ask: How well does unity work without hardware acceleration at all (ie: VNC to a KVM vm) in 11.4?
[13:59] <penguin42> yann2: There is a unity-2d that is supposed to be for that, not tried it
[14:00] <yann2> thanks :) but "The 2D implementation of Unity will be using Qt 4.7 and QML" wow wtf :)
[14:01] <yann2> I think I ll give it a try, thanks
[14:15] <twager> Anyone running the Gnome desktop?
[18:05] <twager> !nvidia
[18:05] <twager> !gnome
[18:05] <penguin42> twager: Nvidia isn't having a good time on Natty yet
[18:06] <penguin42> twager: The closed drivers still don't work with it
[18:07] <twager> penguin42: So I see..Just installed but no joy..
[18:07] <twager> !gnome3
[18:08] <twager> !gnome 3
[19:31] <judgen> Anyone having problems after installin nvidia-current?
[19:31] <judgen> I am stuck in cli mode now.
[19:32] <judgen> even if i remove the xorg.conf again it does not seem to work properly
[19:45] <wormyourhonor> Would anyone know the status of the 10.04.2 release?   apologies if this is the wrong channel, please advise the correct one.
[19:48] <raknorak> hey there
[19:49] <raknorak> my interface is crashing if i start banshee
[19:51] <Pici> wormyourhonor: I believe  that we're either done testing the ISOs or that process is still going on.  You can inquire about that status in #ubuntu-testing and/or take a look at http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/
[19:52] <wormyourhonor> thx Pici
[19:52] <Pici> Also, nice nick.
[19:53] <wormyourhonor> :)
[20:51] <FloridaGuy> can i make apt-get use ftp insted of http
[20:51] <penguin42> FloridaGuy: Yeh, just edit the /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:52] <FloridaGuy> penguin42: ok so change all http to ftp
[20:53] <penguin42> FloridaGuy: Yeh as long as it's a valid URL it'll cope
[20:53] <FloridaGuy> to me seems like ftp is faster then the same http mirrors
[20:54] <penguin42> hmm, don't think it should be
[20:54] <FloridaGuy> ok
[21:09] <Daekdroom> Has anyone else been unable to install packages using software center?
[21:09] <Daekdroom> It crashes aptd
[21:11]  * penguin42 tries
[21:11] <arand> Daekdroom: Similar
[21:13] <penguin42> Daekdroom: Seems to have worked here - just randomly installed games->Puzzles->Berusky
[21:13] <Daekdroom> penguin42, I'm talking about .deb packages, not installing programs from there
[21:13] <penguin42> oh
[21:55] <Daekdroom> bug 674047
[23:43] <BUGabundo> evening
[23:45] <penguin42> Hi Bugs