[00:00] <bdmurray> patrickmw: I'll see what I can do
[00:00] <patrickmw> bdmurray: thank you!
[00:11] <hggdh> patrickmw: stop evolution (evolution --shutdown from the command-line)
[00:12] <hggdh> patrickmw: then restart it as 'env CAMEL_DEBUG=all evolution >& evo.log'
[00:13] <hggdh> patrickmw: then repeat what gives you pain... then close evolution (exit, then 'evolution --force-shutdown')
[00:13] <patrickmw> hggdh: thank you, I did get that pointer in the #evolution channel
[00:14] <hggdh> patrickmw: then -- and IMPORTANT -- browse the log, and make sure nothing private is shown, and post it
[00:14] <patrickmw> hggdh: question though, what is that just to show what the deps are?
[00:14] <hggdh> patrickmw: er, what?
[00:15] <patrickmw> hggdh: what does the data in the log represent?
[00:15] <hggdh> patrickmw: pretty much *all* email operations -- send/receive/IMAP lookup, etc
[00:16] <hggdh> and potentially raw emails, etc
[00:16] <hggdh> what it sounds like is your IMAP setup is not kosher
[00:17] <hggdh> BTW, it is 'evolution --force-shutdown', not 'evolution --shutdown'
[00:19] <patrickmw> hggdh:  what's weird is that it only fails on the first send
[00:20] <hggdh> patrickmw: now THAT is indeed weird
[00:21] <patrickmw> hggdh: but that doesn't rule out that my smtp setup is wrong
[00:21] <hggdh> oh, yes, it is on send.
[00:57] <BUGabundo> meh
[00:58] <BUGabundo> what a night to have a picky user at +1
[00:58] <BUGabundo> not with best humor to take on s/he
[00:58] <penguin42> yeh
[00:58] <BUGabundo> better let him/her vent a bit
[00:58] <BUGabundo> already had to take it over PM
[00:58] <BUGabundo> meh
[00:59] <BUGabundo> s/he tries to stay In that # for 2y
[00:59] <BUGabundo> and then tell me I have no sense of humor
[01:01] <BUGabundo> night everyone of you crazy FLOSS lovers
[10:43] <AbhijiT> hi guys
[10:43] <AbhijiT> anyone please triage this bug
[10:43] <AbhijiT> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/simple-scan/+bug/720621
[10:43] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 720621 in simple-scan (Ubuntu) "File naming is not continous (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[10:50] <AbhijiT> vish, ??
[10:51] <jibel> AbhijiT, I can't reproduce in Natty, multiple saves create Scanned Document.jpg Scanned Document-1.jpg Scanned Document-2.jpg, ... and so on
[10:51] <AbhijiT> jibel, i can produce here in lucid 64 bit
[10:51] <AbhijiT> and btw this is not papercut
[10:51] <AbhijiT> natty is not yet released
[10:53] <TeTeT> AbhijiT: seems there is an easy work around to the problem, simply specify a unique filename for each scan.
[10:54] <AbhijiT> TeTeT, yeah 'its workaround' but normal users would like it the 'actual' solution
[10:54] <AbhijiT> the normal joe
[10:55] <TeTeT> AbhijiT: agreed, but I doubt developers will grant it an SRU, as it is neither a security problem, nor a critical bug
[10:55] <jibel> AbhijiT, I mean that it is fixed in the current development release, so the status of the report is 'Fix Released'
[10:55] <AbhijiT> jibel, okay
[10:55] <AbhijiT> TeTeT, hmm
[11:01] <AbhijiT> thanks guys TeTeT jibel
[11:36] <decoder> there seem to be several problems with slapd in 10.04 lts
[11:36] <decoder> first of all, the -y option isn't working with tools like ldapsearch
[11:36] <decoder> having password in file fails
[11:36] <decoder> typing password with -W works
[11:36] <decoder> secondly, slapd did not accept any SSHA passwords for me
[11:36] <decoder> only MD5
[11:36] <decoder> not plain
[11:36] <decoder> it took me hours to find this out
[15:16] <Fvic> can anyone plz tell me where to start bag triaging??I am new to this community.I joined bug squad but everytime i get lost in related links?
[15:18] <charlie-tca> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage#Untriaged%20bugs is good
[15:18] <charlie-tca> Have you read the wiki pages for HowToTriage and Helping with bugs?
[15:19] <Fvic> charlie-tca, yes ,i did...but the problem is where to get new bugs..i think it would be helpfull if i get to analyse work done by others.is it possible?
[15:20] <charlie-tca> sure, you can look at bugs in launchpad to see them. It is good to pick a bug in an application you use to start with.
[15:21] <charlie-tca> That link I gave you will give a list of new bugs.
[15:21] <Fvic> charlie-tca, i also read somewhere that mentor that guide.well thanks for link.i will go through that right now
[15:22] <charlie-tca> what package do you think you might be interersted in?
[15:24] <Fvic> i think diff will be a gud choice.if you can suggest any that is easy to start with,it will be highly appreciated?
[15:27] <Fvic> charlie-tca, i think diff will be a gud choice.if you can suggest any that is easy to start with ,it will be highly appreciated?
[15:28] <charlie-tca> Fvic: bug 664489 is a triaged bug
[15:28] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 664489 in mousepad (Ubuntu) "When typing Enter in mousepad with ibus-daemon running, mousepad and ibus-daemon consume 100% CPU (affects: 1) (heat: 31)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/664489
[15:30] <charlie-tca> bug 708897
[15:30] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 708897 in diffutils (Ubuntu) "diff tool generates wrong unified diff (affects: 1) (heat: 237)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/708897
[15:30] <charlie-tca> should be good to start with
[15:31] <charlie-tca> Fvic: see if you can reproduce that, even if it is not in hungarian. If you can, then it can be confirmed
[15:31] <Fvic> charlie-tca, thanks..i eill just go through that bug.gratefull
[15:32] <charlie-tca> ask here if you have any questions.
[15:50] <Fvic> charlie-tca,  i was trying to reproduce that bug,but in my task montor,their is no space to write"this is a test".i know it is very small question,is it because i am using luci,not kubuntu??apolozise if question is below standard?
[15:51] <Fvic> charlie-tca,   i was trying to reproduce that bug,but in my task montor,their is no space to write"this is a test".i know it is very small question,is it because i am using luci,not kubuntu??apolozise if question is below standard?
[15:51] <Fvic>   i was trying to reproduce that bug,but in my task montor,their is no space to write"this is a test".i know it is very small question,is it because i am using luci,not kubuntu??apolozise if question is below standard?
[15:52] <charlie-tca> That is on that diff bug?
[15:53] <charlie-tca> Fvic: I don't understand? Is that the diffutils bug or another one?
[15:53] <Fvic> charlie-tca, bug 664489
[15:53] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 664489 in mousepad (Ubuntu) "When typing Enter in mousepad with ibus-daemon running, mousepad and ibus-daemon consume 100% CPU (affects: 1) (heat: 31)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/664489
[15:54] <Fvic> charlie-tca, https://launchpad.net/bugs/664489
[15:54] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 664489 in mousepad (Ubuntu) "When typing Enter in mousepad with ibus-daemon running, mousepad and ibus-daemon consume 100% CPU (affects: 1) (heat: 31)" [High,Triaged]
[15:54] <charlie-tca> one time is enough for each response
[15:54] <charlie-tca> So, you installed mousepad, and should be typing in it.
[15:55] <charlie-tca> You type that line in mousepad after opening Task Monitor
[15:56] <Fvic> charlie-tca,  i appolozise for writing again.me "enter button" was jammed.it mean i need to install mouse pad?
[15:56] <charlie-tca> Task Monitor lets you see what the cpu is doing while using mousepad
[15:56] <charlie-tca> If you are trying to reproduce the mousepad error, you need to do it using mousepad
[15:57] <charlie-tca> Otherwise, you can not reproduce the bug in mousepad
[15:57] <charlie-tca> That was just a bug that has been triaged already, for an expample
[15:58] <Fvic> charlie-tca, thanks.when i triage a new bug,wher to report that?just changing its status is enough?
[15:59] <charlie-tca> You need to comment on it, that you reproduced it and then change the status to confirmed
[15:59] <charlie-tca> We comment on all the bugs we do anything to, sometimes it means we want more information, sometimes it means we could reproduce it.
[16:03] <charlie-tca> Fvic: many of us use VirtualBox to reproduce bugs, so we don't have to add extra stuff to the computer
[16:03] <charlie-tca> Otherwise, you clutter up your usable computer with a lot of extra stuff working these bugs
[16:04] <Fvic> charlie-tca, i tried that using mousepad.but still my cpu  usage was 100%,not 50%.n thanks for advising virtual box.
[16:05] <charlie-tca> that would be enough to confirm the issue the report is about
[16:05] <charlie-tca> An application like mousepad should not make your cpu spike at all
[16:08] <Fvic> charlie-tca, great...this is triaged bug,so i must not changed status or should i give my comment.?i hope it wont affect people who will resolve this ?
[16:08] <charlie-tca> Right, don't change status, but look at the comments made. That a good example of how to reproduce the issue and confirm it
[16:09] <charlie-tca> You can comment that you also reproduced it and your cpu went to 100%
[16:13] <Fvic> charlie-tca, thanks.but the comment on that bug by charlie confirmed the error in xubuntu.shall i check again with xubuntu??or have i did a mistake in reproducing?
[16:13] <charlie-tca> no, you did fine
[16:13] <patrickmw> bdmurray: have you seen the updates to bug 720383
[16:13] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 720383 in evolution (Ubuntu Natty) (and 1 other project) "Error while Sending message (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/720383
[16:14] <charlie-tca> Fvic: Now you move to the diff bugs, just try to reproduce them, or ask for more information
[16:14] <bdmurray> patrickmw: not yet - wading through email
[16:14] <patrickmw> bdmurray: when you get to it let me know. I have a few questions
[16:15] <Fvic> charlie-tca, thanks.this encouraged me to start bug triaging as a beginning.can u also give me the link to find more bug?or it is the same link you gave earlier.wher to find diff bugs
[16:16] <bdmurray> patrickmw: Answer - click also affects project and link to the gnome bug
[16:16] <bdmurray> ;-)
[16:16] <charlie-tca> Fvic: yes, I can. Here is a list of responses we use when triaging bugs
[16:16] <patrickmw> bdmurray: nice. thanks
[16:17] <charlie-tca> Fvic: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage#Untriaged%20bugs
[16:17] <patrickmw> bdmurray: that was one question
[16:17] <charlie-tca> Fvic: stay away from bugs in "linux" though. They are very hard to do
[16:18] <Fvic> charlie-tca, is their any gud any easy to learn pacjkage for triaging,or should continue with diff
[16:18] <bdmurray> patrickmw: I'm not coming up with another one right away ;-)
[16:19] <charlie-tca> Fvic: Just pick one, I think. Some bugs will be easier than others, but packages are pretty much the same
[16:19] <charlie-tca> Some are harder than others, but I don't know what is easy
[16:20] <patrickmw> bdmurray: my question is regarding what the follow up process is for getting the bug fixed and getting an update
[16:21] <Fvic> charlie-tca, thaks a lot.really encouraged me.i was not getting the beginning steps.
[16:21] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[16:24] <bdmurray> patrickmw: its complicated ;-)
[16:24] <patrickmw> bdmurray: would this be better to discuss on mumble?
[16:24] <bdmurray> patrickmw: yeah or something
[17:58] <jon______> hello?
[17:59] <AbhijiT> hi
[18:05] <penguin42> where's the standard text of the 'try the upstream kernel package and see if it still happens'?
[18:06] <AbhijiT> hi jon______
[18:06] <jon______> hi swoody.
[18:06] <swoody> o/
[18:06] <jon______> where do you see the list of users in this room?
[18:07] <AbhijiT> jon______, are you using xchat?
[18:07] <jon______> indeed.  hi back btw.
[18:08] <AbhijiT> jon______, then users list is on the right hand side panel
[18:09] <jon______> heh.  o I get it.  new to this IRC.
[18:19] <jon______> has any one had any issues with themes changing randomly?
[18:20] <charlie-tca> penguin42: I don't think there is one, but the policy is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/KernelTeamBugPolicies#Confirmed%20Bugs
[18:21] <charlie-tca> penguin42: I use my own at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CharlieKravetz/BugNotes#Kernel%20testing
[18:21] <penguin42> charlie-tca: I found it at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BugTriage/Responses
[18:22] <charlie-tca> I didn't know about that page. Thanks
[18:22] <penguin42> neither did I until Google just found it for me :-)
[18:51] <hggdh> charlie-tca, penguin42: I just added a link to it on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses#Debugging%20Kernel%20General
[18:51] <hggdh> thank you both for the heads up
[18:51] <penguin42> no prob
[18:51] <charlie-tca> thanks
[19:32] <njin> Hello team, I found that a tool for the bug 689185 (webcam with the r5u87x chipset) is working and fix the issue, now what can I do to have it on Ubuntu ?
[19:32] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 689185 in ubuntu "Built in webcam not working Sony vail VGN-CR343N (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/689185
[19:34] <bdmurray> njin: I think there is a bug requesting packaging of that driver
[19:36] <bdmurray> njin: iirc there are some issues with licensing or something
[19:40] <njin> bdmurray, thanks
[19:48] <njin> spam https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/360619
[19:48] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 360619 in ubuntu "only top gnome panel moves to secondary monitor on metamode change (affects: 2) (heat: 12)" [Undecided,Invalid]
[19:53] <bdmurray> njin: found it bug 120434
[19:53] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 120434 in ubuntu (and 1 other project) "[needs-packaging] Ricoh R5U87x Webcam userland tools (affects: 19) (dups: 6) (heat: 213)" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/120434
[19:53] <njin> bdmurray, big thanks
[20:05]  * penguin42 fails to convince lp to loink a bug to a KDE bug report
[20:05] <njin> hello what can i do to restore this, No apport report written because MaxReports is reached already
[20:06] <penguin42> I oculd swear you could link to KDE bugs
[20:08] <njin> penguin42, kdebase ?
[20:08] <njin> kde-base
[20:08] <penguin42> no, I'm not asking for the package
[20:08] <penguin42> I want to link a bug in my ubuntu bug to a bug in the KDE bugzilla
[20:09] <njin> ops
[20:32] <yofel> penguin42: bugs.kde.org is supported, so you're doing something wrong
[20:32] <yofel> remember that you need to use the right project when linking the bug
[20:33] <penguin42> yofel: OK - so it's the 'also affects project' link?
[20:34] <yofel> yes
[20:35] <charlie-tca> njin: usually remove the crash reports in /var/crash
[20:37] <penguin42> yofel: Any idea which 'project'?
[20:37] <penguin42> yofel: Doing a search for kde says too many matches
[20:38] <yofel> penguin42: what's the bug, we have several kde component projects on launchpad
[20:39] <penguin42> yofel: bug 719078
[20:39] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 719078 in gtk2-engines-oxygen (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "assertion (IA__gtk_box_reorder_child: assertion) (affects: 1) (heat: 1616)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/719078
[20:43] <yofel> good question under what that should go...
[20:44] <penguin42> yofel: I'd hope if I had a KDE bugzilla link it should figure it out for itself
[20:45] <yofel> not really, launchpad needs a configured project if you want it to show up as an upstream task and you then link a source package with the project
[20:46] <yofel> the oxygen-gtk theme doesn't have such a link
[20:50] <penguin42> bah, the phantom pidgin crash returns
[20:52]  * penguin42 blames dbusmenu so I might add it to that as well
[20:52] <yofel> heh, my ralink driver here just got me a disconnect too :/
[20:53] <yofel> penguin42: ok, I don't know where to put that, ask the others in #kubuntu-devel - maybe we can put them under something else we already have or the theme will need it's own project
[20:53] <penguin42> yofel: I'm tempted to file a lp bug to tell itto figure it out itself
[20:54] <yofel> well, you're  using 'also affects project' - that means you want it to attach to a launchpad project
[20:54] <yofel> the theme package isn't linked to a launchpad project yet
[20:55] <yofel> so it doesn't know where to put it
[20:57] <penguin42> yofel: Well I don't want to 'also affects project' - I just want it to follow a remote bug tracker
[20:58] <penguin42> yofel: And KDE has a series of categories for stuff
[20:58] <penguin42> yofel: It's in Product Oxygen, component gtk-engine
[20:58] <yofel> I know bug launchpad doesn't have any magic to understand that
[20:58] <yofel> s/bug/but/
[20:59] <yofel> it needs a project on launchpad that tell it which upstream bugtracker is used to do the tracking
[20:59] <penguin42> why can't it figure that out from the URL? I could swear it used to be able to do that
[21:02] <yofel> well, maybe it can, doesn't change the fact that you need a launchpad project for the linking - and there isn't one for oxygen-gtk
[21:03] <yofel> I found the one for oxygen-icons, but that's only for the icons package
[21:05] <penguin42> I'd take a single 'kde' project as a good way to do links
[21:06] <yofel> in this case, I agree..