[00:38] nope [00:38] stuck in nyc [01:40] Good morning [01:49] cjohnston: what happened? :( [01:57] We were standby [01:58] ah [01:58] cjohnston: Oh, I thought you missed your flight :D [01:59] no [01:59] we were there [01:59] they missed us [01:59] lol [02:00] the first flight in the morning, as of 1.5 hours ago has 4 empty seats, so we may be able to get on that one [02:00] but the flight is at 705 [02:00] so 430 at the airport [02:00] where are you staying? [02:00] comfort inn jfk [03:37] hey if someone gets ban from #ubuntu what's the protocol for getting unban? [03:38] one of the NC Loco team members was ban this weekend and just asked me how he goes about getting unban [03:40] akgraner: Have them join #ubuntu-ops [03:40] k that's what I thought but wanted to double check thanks nhandler [04:36] evening all [06:34] doctormo, I posted a comment to your blog, can I you approve it? [06:36] hello jono [06:38] hey duanedesign [06:39] ok bed for me [06:39] night all! [07:21] good morning [07:30] Morning dholbach, ara [07:31] hey nigelb [07:32] hey nigelb [07:32] * nigelb sighs [07:32] today's going to be a really longish day :| [07:35] * cjohnston may be sitting in an airport for 13 hours.. i agree [07:36] good morning all [07:36] Morning dpm [07:37] hey nigelb [07:44] Morning everyone [07:48] hey kim0, good morning! [07:49] dpm: hey man :) [07:49] hey kim0 [07:50] dholbach: Morgen :) [07:50] kim0, صباح النور ! [07:51] haha .. you're changing replies now even [07:51] Hey kim0 :) [07:51] dholbach: love to hear you pronounce that :P [07:51] nigelb: morning man :) [07:52] kim0, next time we meet and you can teach me how to say it right :) [07:52] heh [07:52] "no, do it again", "no, not like this... like this!", etc. :) [07:53] hehe my pleasure [07:53] but I'm happy to learn some more, what I learned up until now is not even "holiday Arabic" :) [07:54] hehe :) [08:47] morning [08:47] hey huats [08:47] hello dpm [08:58] morning all [09:41] aloha [09:42] hey o/ [09:48] o [09:49] Good morning ! [09:50] hello popey [09:51] Morning fellas [09:52] o/ [09:53] http://www.networkworld.com/community/banshee-amazon-store-disabled-by-canonical-in-ubuntu interesting read [09:54] oooooooold [09:54] :) [09:57] cant be all up to date like you mr popey ;) [09:57] :) [10:18] daker: Morning [10:20] morning ツ [10:33] czajkowski: the headline is linkbait though, was disappointed to see it :) [10:33] (on lwn first) [10:34] i'd rather write "Ubuntu One still default music store on Ubuntu despite player change" :) [10:34] thats not going to grab attention though [10:35] nope [10:35] * topyli tweets, tests [10:35] jzb needs to get paid somehow :) [10:44] or maybe "ubuntu adds amazon music store as an option" even [10:45] but that isn't going to get people to read the article. [10:46] also, it shows Ubuntu in good light! [10:46] can't have that! [10:46] Exactlly! [10:49] popey: that might be a good headline too, albite a bit niche [10:49] or albeit [11:23] can somebody please sticky these two: [11:23] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10449345 [11:23] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10449347 [13:52] kim0, o/ [13:57] dholbach: yep [13:59] thanks duanedesign! [14:00] doneizzle dhizzleC[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C [14:03] dholbach, hi [14:03] hey daker - how are you doing? [14:03] good ツ & you ? [14:03] great - thanks :) [14:04] daker: howdy man [14:06] question: i developing a project which going - i think - deployed but as you know they are running django 1.1.1 , the project have some difficulties with django 1.1.1 and it runs very well on 1.2.3 [14:06] i mean question to dholbach ツ [14:06] did you figure out what exactly it requires from 1.2.3? [14:07] for the LD we had to "borrow" some code for a short time, but only a minimal piece that made it work [14:07] but you could just ask the people in #canonical-sysadmin [14:07] they can give a definite answer :) [14:07] ok thanks [14:42] anyone know the ubuntu channel that deal with chrome/browser issues ? [14:58] czajkowski: specifically? [14:59] popey: I know I was in one before with jcastro as I had a chrome issue with font displaying . but every time I download items on this machine in chrome I get empty items [14:59] but work fine in firefox [14:59] file a bug? [15:00] popey: trying to work out is it asetting or something someone has heard of before, tis just odd and only happens on this machine. [15:03] czajkowski: Even if it's a setting, it should be filled as a bug. [15:04] ubuntu-bug chromium ? package does not exist, what do I file it agaisnt ? [15:05] chromium-browser [15:06] jcastro: thank you [15:10] jcastro: what is the channel to follow up in as well ? [15:11] u-mozillateam [15:11] fta hangs out there [15:11] jcastro: thanks [15:27] * popey cuddles jcastro [15:38] wow a channel popey is not in :p [15:39] hah [15:39] i recently rebooted my vps, so pruned my channel list :p [15:39] popey: how many channels are you in now, then? [15:39] not many [15:39] 92 [15:39] :) [15:39] hmm to tesco to get food to cook [15:39] toodles [15:40] czajkowski: pro-tip: Don't poison anyone! === JanC_ is now known as JanC [16:21] popey: I didnt poision him :( [16:21] :) [16:24] cooking again this evening. :) [16:24] I may be tempted to this time though [16:25] hehe [16:25] London really isn';t pretty during the day [16:25] at least by night the lights make it look pretty [16:26] * czajkowski is making a lasagna this evening for dinner [16:33] czajkowski: yummy :) [16:36] hey all [16:37] hiya jono [16:37] jono: we're still on for today, right? [16:39] yep [16:39] six hours of calls today [16:39] ugh [16:39] six hours .. ew [16:40] * Pendulum hugs jono [16:44] * jono hugs Pendulum [17:20] pleia2: Looks like we'll only be doing the alternative accommodation for UDS. Few Ubuntu orgs are interested in the Ubuntu community sponsorship idea. [17:21] So we'll drop it and work on just making it easier for those rich enough to fly there, but not so rich as to afford the UDS hotel. [17:21] doctormo: that's ashame, but a list of hotels at least will be helpful for those folks [17:22] pleia2: Yea, I thought I'd at least get a handful of people interested. But I got a big fat zero. Oh well. [17:22] And if it's not possible to get OMG interested, then it's not possible to get anyone interested IMO. [17:22] ;-) [17:22] where was this publicised? [17:22] * popey hasn't seen anything about it [17:23] popey: It wasn't, it was private emails and individuals. [17:23] no where, I'm still working with ubuntu-hu to get a list [17:23] popey: Will you be going to UDS? [17:24] no idea [17:24] popey: If you don't go, would you put $40 into a hat to sponsor someone else? [17:24] I'll happily do that whether I go or not [17:25] is sponsorship open? [17:25] has jono blogged it? :) [17:25] Technoviking: No, not yet. [17:25] well, once we have the locations pinned down we'll put together a sponsorship wiki page and see if we can get individual donations :) [17:25] http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/sponsorship/ -> "We are not currently accepting sponsorship applications for uds-o in Budapest, Hungary . Please check back again later! [17:26] pleia2: I was using popey as a litmus of interest, I wonder how he translates to other less involved users. [17:26] last time it was primarily individual donors, right? [17:26] sponsorship is not open yet [17:26] will be open very soon [17:27] pleia2: We speared it, so the one person we wanted to fund we went to the teams he was involved in and ask them directly. [17:27] * pleia2 nods [17:27] jono: How much support would a kickstarter project get from the community team, if we set one up at the same time? [17:28] * popey hacks jono's wordpress install and hits [SUBMIT] on the blog post titled "Ubuntu Developer Summit Applications Open!" [17:29] popey: Would it be worth having the CC mull over everyone who doesn't get Canonical support for such a thing? [17:29] I think not, I think it's a JFDI [17:29] if you think it needs doing, do it [17:30] popey: No, I mean, when it's done, and there is a pot of gold. [17:30] was the comment about OMG serious? Have you approached them to write up about it? [17:30] nah, just get someone responsible to look after it [17:30] * popey notes that as you have talked most about it, you automagically become responsible ;D [17:30] popey: Same person to choose the people to sponsor? I could do that :-P [17:31] CIVS? [17:31] maybe overthinking it tbh [17:31] What does CIVS mean? [17:32] its the poll system we use for votes [17:32] e.g. for the CC vote [17:32] Ah the Alternative vote. [17:32] http://www.cs.cornell.edu/w8/~andru/cgi-perl/civs/results.pl?id=E_f802a7d79840b58a [17:32] can you see that? [17:33] however. [17:33] did you see what the Linux Outlaws (podcast) guys did to get one of them to FOSDEM? [17:33] http://www.indiegogo.com/lo-fosdem2011 [17:33] seemed to work well [17:35] popey: Thanks for the links. [17:35] np [17:35] I think it's a great idea to help get people to UDS [17:37] pleia2: What do you think? If you +1, I'll go ahead regardless. [17:40] I'm just not sure about the method [17:40] whether it's worth getting a list of people who want to go up front [17:40] and creating individual things for them [17:40] or one massive fund [17:40] "massive" [17:40] I think it would be hard to know who to poll [17:41] true [17:41] the people who donated? [17:42] some donors may just want to donate to someone who they know will represent their interests at the summit [17:42] so they won't want to commit until they know who they are donating to [17:43] yeah [17:43] it's tricky [17:44] maybe we just decide based on applications and community support we can see (last time it was pretty clear that BT wanted the sponsored party to go) [17:44] Try the massive pool and then try the singular funding next time if it fails? [17:44] doctormo: I think it is a great idea, and just doing the hotel is great [17:45] yeah, and in their applications we should see if there is any money on their end [17:45] maybe they can afford half a trip, but not the whole thing [17:45] that way we can help more people [17:45] you could gather a fund and split it between all the people paying their own flights towards their hotel bills [17:46] pleia2: For that, we'd need details on the accommodation costs. [17:47] doctormo: yeah, which we're still working on, hajni is talking with a travel agent friend [17:48] doctormo: what is the minimum accomodation type, 3 star? 4 star? [17:48] (the highest is 5) [17:49] uds planner was written by Scott ? [17:49] m4n1sh: originally, maintained by various people now iirc [17:49] pleia2: Minimum is couches at houses ;-), but I suppose for others, 3 stars should be good. [17:49] * popey points a finger at Daviey :D [17:49] doctormo: ok, thanks :) [17:49] that's why I see "Sign in to Keybuk's UDS Planner" [17:49] m4n1sh: what url? [17:50] pleia2: but if there is a way to reduce the cost by locating at distance, the key is transport. [17:50] https://login.launchpad.net/somerandomkey/+decide [17:50] It's easier to do if a bunch of people are located at the same distance hotel. [17:50] ok my friends - I call it a day now [17:50] m4n1sh: how did you get there? [17:50] popey: when you try to login [17:50] o/ dholbach [17:50] have a great rest of your day and see you tomorrow! [17:50] popey: from http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/sponsorship/ [17:50] if you are not logged in [17:50] yeah, i wouldn't do that yet [17:51] popey: Yea, to answer your previous question. OMG didn't respond to a request to make an article for it. [17:51] which article? [17:51] * Daviey raises an eyebrow [17:51] * m4n1sh reads the log [17:52] am i wanted? [17:53] Daviey: Are you involved in OMG? [17:53] doctormo, no [17:53] doctormo: what exactly you want to post on omg? accomodation during uds? [17:53] popey, you pointed at me? [17:53] m4n1sh: Kickstarter to raise donations for getting people to UDS. [17:54] and you want an author who can post it? [17:54] probably david can? or akshat [17:56] doctormo: manish asked about the summit page which mentioned keybuk [17:59] doctormo: i suspect there is an alterior motive why omg didnt publicise [17:59] doctormo: I expect that both Joey and Ben want to go to UDS themselves :) [18:00] either that or one of 1) your story isnt shiny linkbait, 2) they are not your performing monkeys, making stories that you choose, 3) they get a lot of comments and missed it [18:00] or all of the above [18:01] popey: seems reasonable. [18:02] Lol [18:02] pleia2: I'll estimate $1k per sponsored person on the kickstart and aim to get 5 extra people there. I'll detail how it'll work with votes, [18:02] popey: lol @ 1 [18:05] \o/ home time [18:05] see you gorgeous people later! [18:05] mwah mwah! [18:08] m4n1sh: did you have a question/problem with summit.ubuntu.com? [18:08] * mhall119 saw your link above, but not sure of the context [18:08] mhall119: nope. Was just asking if Scott developed it :) [18:08] and btw is the sponsorship stopped? [18:09] * mhall119 doesn't see Scott in the source history [18:09] mhall119: logout. and then goto the http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/sponsorship/ [18:09] you will be redirected to login page [18:09] m4n1sh: sponsorship for UDS-O hasn't started yet, it was a bug in the summit code that had it opened previously [18:09] mhall119: ah. so people who applied have to apply again? [18:10] who already applied have to apply again? [18:10] m4n1sh: no, the sponsorship applications should still be in the database [18:10] it is there [18:10] but you can double-check with jcastro and Daviey on that [18:10] they're in there [18:10] submissions are off [18:10] m4n1sh: going to that link took me through SSO and back, but I didn't see any mention of Scott [18:10] scott's mentioned in the form page [18:11] which I don't get to [18:11] though I /think/ cjohnston fixed that, not sure [18:11] on login page: "Sign in to Keybuk's UDS Planner" [18:11] m4n1sh: oh file a bug on that please [18:11] oh, on login.launchpad.net? [18:11] lp.net/summit [18:11] doing [18:11] it is [18:11] Registered 2009-05-19 by Scott James Remnant (Canonical) [18:12] jcastro: grep shows now 'keybuk' in summit's source tree, is this something recorded in Launchpad or SSO? [18:12] not sure [18:12] if summit was registered with LP's services, it may be stored by them [18:14] Daviey might know better [18:14] but I think that's the case, LP has pre-authorized access from summit, and probably has that name stored [18:14] cool [18:14] summit is in django [18:14] yup [18:14] my fav web framework :) [18:15] mine too ;) [18:15] mhall119: I still like wsgi, but django is tops [18:16] I think ubuntu makes use of wordpress+thematic framework a lot [18:16] and for custom work, django [18:16] jcastro: the lady on the left is amber? Right? https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_1Thkya8n93k/TVRdlbJ-iLI/AAAAAAAAfnc/7FU_VHREmhk/uds8.jpg [18:17] no that's Jane Silber [18:17] m4n1sh: nope [18:17] and well everyone knows who is on the right :) [18:17] * vish leaves it to quickgun jcastro ;) [18:17] probably everyone him knows before they were even born [18:17] doctormo: you can run django on wsgi [18:17] that's the preferred way of doing it these days [18:29] vish: I moved to gdocs [18:30] jcastro: hmm, i actually meant that "quickgun jcastro" at your quick reply to manish :) [18:30] yeah, I moved on to you now. [18:30] jcastro: oh wait, now i get it :) [18:31] I AM FAST TODAY [18:31] faster than a speeding code commit [18:31] this is why it's 1:30 and only am just now realizing I need to eat, heh [18:31] same here jcastro [18:31] * JFo listens to his belly rumble [18:31] and that is a whole lot to have rumbling [18:32] JFo: My wife made me pea and ham soup, it was great. [18:32] sounds like [18:37] jcastro: ping [18:37] yo [18:37] check zeitgeist tag on askubuntu [18:37] vish: ok that's one, I'm going to let it bake for a bit and give it a think [18:37] http://askubuntu.com/tags/zeitgeist/info [18:38] booya, accepted [18:38] nice work! [18:38] yay [18:38] will add more [18:38] snapshots too [18:39] no worries, it's real easy to integrate [18:39] it just gives me a nice graphical diff [18:39] and I click a button [18:39] oh really [18:39] stackexchange rocks [18:40] yeah add a link to the homepage or something and I'll screenie it [18:40] jcastro: everything is under consideration [18:40] this week the whole team is off the work [18:40] burnout killed most of them [18:41] heh [18:41] yeah! [18:41] signs of brutalness [18:41] except kamstrup [18:41] he has to work on unity :( [18:42] once he's done we can finally have python places [18:42] really? [18:42] is he the only person work on libunity [18:42] I can see most of the changes from him [18:42] jcastro: someone's already working on a python lib? [18:43] mhall119: yeah, kamstrup [18:43] awesome! [18:43] m4n1sh: he's not the only one but it's mostly him [18:43] one less thing for my todo list [18:43] mhall119: the nice thing is we get python places AND launcherAPI python bits all at once [18:43] more awesome [18:43] kamstrup brutally rips apart our design decisions and make everyone's heads hang in shame :D [18:44] esp no one has been able to come up with a good blacklist api and aggregate api.. he finds out lots of issues with each design [18:44] he's pretty ninja [18:46] jcastro: http://twitter.com/#!/njpatel/status/19843856935 and http://twitter.com/#!/njpatel/status/25981912819 [19:12] mhall119 / jcastro: That is something for Canonical IS to fix i think. [19:22] doctormo: been reading some of the ubuntu-artwork mail, would it be possibel that you are others might be interested in working with ubuntu studio for artwork? [19:29] ok everyone, see you on Monday! [20:05] wow, ronnie's google maps branch rocks [20:05] screenshot please! [20:33] doctormo: there is a 3 star hotel for ~45 euro (they don't use euros there, but it was easy for her to convert) per night 2 minutes walking distance away [20:33] hajni sent me a whole list up to 100 euro/night and 4 star, all within walking distance, I'll put together a wiki page after work tonight [20:34] * pleia2 back to work [22:11] scott-work: It's possible, do you want to chat about it in #ubuntu-artwork with me and thorwil? [22:12] pleia2: That sounds fantastic! [22:16] doctormo: that would be capital! [22:17] doctormo: i don't think thorwil is there currently ? [22:17] scott-work: No, this is a thing which needs an EU timezone [22:18] So early morning for you :-) [22:18] doctormo: okay, so tomorrow morningin i shall endeavour to find you and thorwil on #ubuntu-artwork :) [22:20] scott-work: great, in the mean time. What kind of things did you have in mind? [22:22] doctormo: anything, everything :) [22:23] * scott-work is a zen master :P [22:23] scott-work: Has paultag given up on getting me to do his gui? [22:28] doctormo: aye! he's using a person within the ubuntustudio-dev group, it's a training exercise for him [22:29] doctormo: jocularity aside, the ubuntu studio team does not have any at all to do artwork or themeing (is that a word? is it spelt correctly?), so any help in this quarter would be appreciated [22:30] Pendulum, hey, just give me on sec and I will Skype you [22:30] jono: no worries, need to find my headset anyway [22:30] scott-work: I think what I will do is make you a blog post on dA, there are lots of lost theme designers on there. [22:32] jono: i'm ready whenever you are [22:33] doctormo: i sent an email to thorwil and he kindly said "no" :P [22:33] has gnome-screenshot been completely broken by unity? I can only get it to take screeshots of the desktop wallpaper [22:33] doctormo: but he did sent a few links to others who might be interested [22:34] scott-work: Sounds good, he must be winding down his art stuff. [22:34] doctormo: but my thought was not to have contests or polls, just form a small group that can work collaboratively and come up with some good designs or ideas [22:34] scott-work: That's the idea. [22:35] doctormo: but certainly a blog post on dA would be an awesome step :) [22:37] scott-work: How should folks contact you? [22:49] doctormo: they can reach me at scottalavender@gmail.com [22:50] that is a commonly available email address that i freely make public [22:53] Pendulum, which chan should do the meeting in next week? [22:53] #ubuntu-accessibility ? [22:55] Pendulum, I will use that for now, we can change it if needed [23:01] scott-work: http://ubuntu-artists.deviantart.com/blog/38530843/ [23:10] doctormo: thanks! i'll look at it at home, i have to run to pick up the kids :) [23:50] doctormo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS-O/OtherAccommodation [23:51] pleia2: Does that include the UDS hotel itself for comparison? [23:52] doctormo: no, I think we'll have to call the hotel to find out the rate [23:53] on uds.ubuntu.com there is a "If you are not a Canonical employee or sponsored by Canonical but wish to book a room at please fill in this form and send it to reservations.budapest@corinthia.com" note [23:53] but "this form" doesn't exist [23:54] all I asked for from Hajni were 3+ star hotels within walking distance under 100 euros/night [23:58] pleia2: Perfect, you're a star! [23:59] jono: When you announce sponsorship, can you link to our wiki page?