[00:03] <BuenGenio> hello
[00:04] <BuenGenio> is anybody aware on the state of apt-get working through proxy?
[00:06] <Patrickdk> BuenGenio, it uses http, why wouldn't it work perfectly?
[00:06] <BuenGenio> export http_proxy="http://proxy:3128"
[00:07] <BuenGenio> Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick/universe csstidy i386 1.4-3
[00:07] <BuenGenio>   Unable to connect to localhost:3128: [IP: 127.0.0.1 3128]
[00:07] <Patrickdk> well, that says it's using the proxy just fine
[00:07] <BuenGenio> I'm running a proxy on localhost:3128
[00:07] <Patrickdk> that says your proxy is not accepting the connect
[00:08] <BuenGenio> well, Firefox and telnet think otherwise
[00:08] <BuenGenio> telnet localhost 3128
[00:08] <BuenGenio> Trying ::1...
[00:08] <BuenGenio> Connected to localhost.localdomain.
[00:08] <Patrickdk> ::1 != 127.0.0.1
[00:08] <BuenGenio> Unable to connect to localhost:3128: [IP: 127.0.0.1 3128]
[00:09] <BuenGenio> != Unable to connect to localhost:3128: [IP: ::1 3128]
[00:43] <RoAkSoAx> SpamapS: ping?
[00:56] <DoctorPepper> hi guys
[00:57] <RoyK> DoctorPepper: you're that old rtfm guy, right?
[00:58] <DoctorPepper> uh !!!!
[00:58] <RoyK> :D
[01:08] <smoser> hggdh, fyi http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/server/karmic/20110216/ is there. that has --proposed enabled
[01:11] <mathiaz> jiboumans: Hi!
[01:11] <jiboumans> hey mathiaz
[01:11] <smoser> hggdh, just verified it has 2.6.31-307.27 installed
[01:12] <smoser> and that it boots.
[01:12] <mathiaz> jiboumans: do you have any idea for starting two memcached daemon on the same box?
[01:12] <jiboumans> mathiaz: different ports
[01:12] <mathiaz> jiboumans: yeah
[01:12] <mathiaz> jiboumans: different ports
[01:12] <mathiaz> jiboumans: i was wondering about the init script
[01:12] <jiboumans> since it's all cli arguments, that's pretty straight forward
[01:12] <mathiaz> jiboumans: it seems that only one port is supported
[01:12] <mathiaz> jiboumans: are you using the default init script?
[01:13] <jiboumans> mathiaz: yeah, the init script's lame that way
[01:13] <jiboumans> mathiaz: but trivial to do using start-stop-daemon
[01:13] <jiboumans> or puppet's service { }
[01:13]  * mathiaz nods
[01:13] <jiboumans> mathiaz: no i'm not running memcached atm actually
[01:13] <jiboumans> using redis
[01:13] <jiboumans> which comes with a config file and i'm running it from puppet, not init.d
[01:14] <mathiaz> jiboumans: so when an instance is booted, the first puppet run will actually start your daemons?
[01:14] <jiboumans> yes
[01:14] <mathiaz> jiboumans: interesting...
[01:14] <jiboumans> ensure => running basically
[01:14] <jiboumans> also, krunit can be useful here
[01:14] <jiboumans> 'sv once $service'
[01:14] <jiboumans> no need to check for status, runit will do it
[01:14] <mathiaz> jiboumans: with ensure => disable?
[01:15] <jiboumans> how do you mean disable?
[01:15] <mathiaz> jiboumans: in the puppet service definition
[01:15] <mathiaz> jiboumans: there is an option to make sure a service is enable/disabled at init time
[01:15] <jiboumans> i'm not sure why you'd want it disabled
[01:16] <frandieguez> hi all, I'm trying to run an app with PHP5 on apache 2 using the Gettext extension but I have a little issue: I have all running but only works for locales installed in the system (that one included in locale-gen -a) and if I want to add more languages I have to install language-pack-xx-base. How I can fix this?
[01:17] <frandieguez> Sorry, my development ubuntu server is running Maverick (the version doesn't matter, always fails)
[01:18] <twb> frandieguez: you don't HAVE to use language-packs
[01:19] <twb> locale-gen zh_ZH.UTF-8
[01:19] <frandieguez> twb: great! let me try it
[01:23] <frandieguez> twb: sorry but it is not working for me... I have issued locale-gen zh_ZH.UTF-8 and made a copy of es_ES translations (that works well) to zh_ZH but not work.
[01:24] <frandieguez> twb: locale-gen with zh_ZH is superfast, for the rest of languages take a little time
[01:25] <mathiaz> jiboumans: so IIUC memcached doesn't support a configurationf ile
[01:25] <mathiaz> jiboumans: it only supports command line switches?
[01:25] <mathiaz> SpamapS: ^^?
[01:25] <jiboumans> mathiaz: that's right
[01:25] <mathiaz> jiboumans: great - thanks!
[01:25] <jiboumans> look at the init.d script, i'm quite sure it's start-stop-daemon based
[01:26] <jiboumans> which makes it trivial
[01:26] <mathiaz> jiboumans: well - the start-stop-daemon is actualy calling another script
[01:26] <mathiaz> jiboumans: that parses the memcached.conf file for all the options
[01:26] <jiboumans> mathiaz: how silly
[01:27] <mathiaz> jiboumans: yeah - I  may turn that into an upstart job
[01:27] <mathiaz> SpamapS: kirkland: are upstart jobs still the way to go in Ubuntu?
[01:29] <jiboumans> mathiaz: conversion schmonversion
[01:29] <jiboumans> you can do 'screen memcached -p 1234' and it works
[01:29] <jiboumans> give it a name (memcached_1234) and run it 'unless => "screen -ls | grep memcached_1234"
[01:29] <jiboumans> it's *that* simple
[01:31] <mathiaz> jiboumans: nice
[01:35] <jiboumans> mathiaz: why run multiple memcacheds btw?
[01:36] <jiboumans> mathiaz: and you might want to look at redis for some neat features and also memory saving optimizations
[01:43] <dasilva333> hey guys ive tried much research still no luck, any one willing to help? im getting this error when i try to do df -h 'Stale NFS file handle'
[01:44] <dasilva333> also helpful:
[01:44] <dasilva333> root@TonidoPlug:/etc/init.d# umount /dev/sdc1
[01:44] <dasilva333> umount: /dev/sdc1: not mounted
[01:44] <dasilva333> root@TonidoPlug:/etc/init.d# mount /dev/sdc1 /media/SeagateNTFS/
[01:44] <dasilva333> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sdc1 is already mounted on /media/SeagateNTFS
[01:44] <dasilva333> root@TonidoPlug:/etc/init.d# ls /etc/mtab
[01:44] <dasilva333> ls: cannot access /etc/mtab: Stale NFS file handle
[01:54] <twb> !partners
[02:07] <marshall> hey ubuntu server
[02:08] <dasilva333> hey
[02:09] <marshall> anybody use ec2?
[02:10] <dasilva333> not me, hey marshall do you think you could help me with my problem?
[02:10] <marshall> sup?
[02:11] <dasilva333> well whenever i try df -h i get 'Stale NFS file handle
[02:11] <smokesmoko> what kind of problem r u having dasilva333?
[02:11] <dasilva333> df -h 'Stale NFS file handle'
[02:11] <dasilva333> root@TonidoPlug:/etc/init.d# umount /dev/sdc1
[02:11] <dasilva333> umount: /dev/sdc1: not mounted
[02:11] <dasilva333> root@TonidoPlug:/etc/init.d# mount /dev/sdc1 /media/SeagateNTFS/
[02:11] <dasilva333> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sdc1 is already mounted on /media/SeagateNTFS
[02:11] <dasilva333> root@TonidoPlug:/etc/init.d# ls /etc/mtab
[02:11] <dasilva333> ls: cannot access /etc/mtab: Stale NFS file handle
[02:13] <dasilva333> thats what i get
[02:13] <smokesmoko> what kind of drive is it, cd or harddrive?
[02:15] <dasilva333> its an ntfs drive, it just suddenly happened
[02:15] <dasilva333> ive tried various solutions on google but no luck
[02:16] <smokesmoko> got important data on it?
[02:16] <nandemonai> I've gotten that before when a NFS server has died. Do you have any NFS shares mounted as well?
[02:16] <dasilva333> if i reboot into my other linux OS the drive works fine
[02:16] <dasilva333> if i plug it into the my windows box it also works fine
[02:17] <dasilva333> so its the OS thats for sure
[02:17] <dasilva333> how do i check what NFS shares are mounted on it?
[02:17] <dasilva333> heres a helpful article if you guys could help me with it
[02:17] <dasilva333> http://sysunconfig.net/unixtips/stale_nfs.txt
[02:18] <nandemonai> Have you rebooted?
[02:18] <dasilva333> yes many many times
[02:18] <nandemonai> Ok forget I said anything then. Sounds like a bug.
[02:18] <dasilva333> ive tried a, but im not sure hwo to use it with -O option so that doesnt work
[02:18] <nandemonai> Rebooting will drop any stale shares so it's not that.
[02:18] <dasilva333> how can i reinstall or reset the part of the system that is not working?
[02:18] <nandemonai> So this is happening with a USB drive eh? Very odd.
[02:19] <dasilva333> yeah its a usb drive
[02:19] <dasilva333> i basically think my fstab or mtab is corrupted somehow
[02:19] <nandemonai> I'd boot it with a live CD and check out the files.
[02:20] <nandemonai> You could be onto something with a messed up fstab or something. Other than that I have no idea I'm afraid.
[02:20] <dasilva333> i ran a chkdsk on windows and it passed through fine, im pretty sure its not the files
[02:20] <nandemonai> Usually that error relates to a nfs share that has stopped responding.
[02:20] <dasilva333> http://sysunconfig.net/unixtips/stale_nfs.txt how do i do option a. or b. in that list?
[02:21] <nandemonai> Oh I meant your fstab etc sorry.
[02:21] <nandemonai> B will already have been done unless something is trying to use it on boot.
[02:22] <dasilva333> i tried booting into my other OS, deleteing /etc/mtab and then booting back into it w/o any luck
[02:22] <nandemonai> a. something like: sudo mount -O /dev/sda1 /mnt/point
[02:22] <dasilva333> is there any other file i could possible delete to 'reset' my problem?
[02:22] <nandemonai> Again though reboot should sort all that.
[02:22] <smokesmoko> Hi, to recreate mtab try command:
[02:22] <smokesmoko> sudo cat /proc/mounts > /etc/mtab
[02:22] <smokesmoko> have u tried that?
[02:22] <dasilva333> yeah i tried that
[02:23] <dasilva333> i get Stale NFS file handle whenever i do anything relating to mtab
[02:23] <nandemonai> I'd boot a live CD and suss out the mtab and fstab files from there.
[02:23] <nandemonai> I guess it's possible they're completely corrupted but I'm guessing ;)
[02:24] <dasilva333> ok but how do i 'suss' them out?
[02:24] <smokesmoko> u could fsck your drive, but becareful
[02:24] <dasilva333> like just rm -rf /etc/mtab or what?
[02:24] <dasilva333> i cant fsck an ntfs drive
[02:24] <nandemonai> Look at them in a text editor from a live CD.
[02:24] <dasilva333> ah ok
[02:24] <dasilva333> good idea
[02:25] <nandemonai> Do you even use NFS shares on said system?
[02:26] <SpamapS> mathiaz: yes upstart job would be the way to go, and memcached should be trivial to do.
[02:26] <mathiaz> SpamapS: well - trying to do it with upstart from lucid
[02:27] <mathiaz> SpamapS: running into issues with log files
[02:27] <mathiaz> SpamapS: and forks as well
[02:28] <mathiaz> SpamapS: http://paste.ubuntu.com/567960/
[02:28] <mathiaz> SpamapS: isn't happy
[02:28] <dasilva333> nope
[02:28] <SpamapS> mathiaz: err.. I would just use it w/o forking and pipe to logger
[02:28] <dasilva333> i dont even know what NFS is rly, so im not sure why my NTFS drive is complaining about that
[02:29] <mathiaz> SpamapS: http://paste.ubuntu.com/567961/?
[02:29] <SpamapS> mathiaz: drop the expect fork and the -d
[02:29] <mathiaz> SpamapS: using an exec statement?
[02:30] <SpamapS> mathiaz: and if you want to be careful... add a post-start that makes sure memcached is listening
[02:30] <mathiaz> SpamapS: or a script block?
[02:30] <SpamapS> mathiaz: you can exec blah | something else
[02:30] <mathiaz> SpamapS: oh - nice
[02:30] <SpamapS> mathiaz: script is only for multiple commands
[02:30] <dasilva333> ok mount -O revealed something interesting
[02:30] <dasilva333> http://pastebin.com/1a0YTimE
[02:30] <dasilva333> line #12 is bad somehow....
[02:30] <SpamapS> mathiaz: basically exec just gets evaluated by the running shell as is
[02:31] <Roasted> just curious, if you're running ubuntu server with no gui, how do you share out printers?
[02:31] <SpamapS> mathiaz: also make sure you stop on runlevel 1.. you don't need memcached in single user :)
[02:31] <dasilva333> can i do sudo cat /proc/mounts > /etc/fstab?
[02:31] <SpamapS> Roasted: cups
[02:31] <SpamapS> Roasted: or samba+cups
[02:31] <Roasted> SpamapS, ahh, through a web based gui right
[02:31] <twb> dasilva333: only if you want to break the system
[02:32] <ZacLnxNewb> hi
[02:32] <ZacLnxNewb> What's the best torrenting daemon?
[02:32] <SpamapS> Roasted: thats helpful for configuring them, yes.. but you can do it w/o the gui even. :)
[02:32] <Roasted> ZacLnxNewb, I like deluge.
[02:32] <dasilva333> twb: how would i do it then pls?
[02:32] <twb> dasilva333: do what?
[02:33] <dasilva333> how do i rebuild fstab
[02:33] <ZacLnxNewb> Roasted: I was using deluge until I screwed up the configuration
[02:33] <Roasted> ZacLnxNewb, so redo the config to default??
[02:33] <ZacLnxNewb> Roasted:  then it just ran in the background and I was too lazy to figure out how to fix it. :p
[02:33] <ZacLnxNewb> Roasted: and I decided to freshly install my entire server and try a different configuration.
[02:35] <SpamapS> mathiaz: feel free to submit that upstart job as a bug on memcached. :)
[02:35] <mathiaz> SpamapS: hehe
[02:35] <mathiaz> SpamapS: seems like it's working !
[02:36] <mathiaz> SpamapS: now is there a way to have stdout log to a logger and stderr log to another one?
[02:36] <mathiaz> SpamapS: for now I do 2>&1
[02:36] <SpamapS> mathiaz: note that it will fire the started as soon as it has exec'd .. which Keybuk would be careful to point out could create a race condition with dependent jobs
[02:36] <SpamapS> mathiaz: :( no
[02:37] <SpamapS> mathiaz: but realistically.. the messages should distinguish themselves appropriately, and you probably want to see all of them anyway
[02:49] <dasilva333> ok i just booted onto the same system using a live cd and i checked out the mtab file on the bad OS and its empty, can i do a cat /proc/mounts > /media/OriginalDrive/etc/fstab ?
[02:55] <dasilva333> interesting i tried it and i get an input/output error on the drive
[02:57] <qman__> the drive is probably bad then
[02:57] <ZacLnxNewb> Roasted: Hey, where is the deluge config file stored?
[02:57] <qman__> could be a loose cable or bad controller too, but same general thing
[02:57] <dasilva333> well its a usb drive, my boot drive is a usb drive, can i just run fsck on it?
[02:57] <dasilva333> how do i force unmount ? im getting the device is busy
[02:58] <qman__> input/output error is not an error with the filesystem, it's an error with the hardware
[02:58] <qman__> umount -l
[02:58] <qman__> l for lazy
[02:58] <ZacLnxNewb> qman__:  do you know anything about deluge?
[02:58] <qman__> nope, I use torrentflux
[02:58] <dasilva333> qman__ hwo can it be an error with the hardware if its just a simple cruzer usb drive?
[02:59] <dasilva333> unless you mean the actual server...
[02:59] <qman__> dasilva333, loose connector, bad USB port/header/controller, bad drive
[02:59] <qman__> anything along the chain
[02:59] <dasilva333> ah ok
[02:59] <qman__> but that type of error is a hardware error
[03:00] <elbow``> I am trying to get FastCGI installed on my server, all ive found on ubuntu is mod_fcgid
[03:03] <thesheff17> elbow: for php?
[03:04] <elbow``> perl
[03:05] <thesheff17> I believe you just have to enable the mod_perl for apache2
[03:05] <elbow``> I dont want to use mod_perl
[03:06] <thesheff17> ah sorry you should be able to do apt-get install libfcgi-perl
[03:07] <dasilva333> THANK YOU SO MUCH GUYS!!! *HUGS ALL AROUND*
[03:07] <dasilva333> ok so thanks all your ideas and help i was able to resolve my problem
[03:08] <dasilva333> how i ended up fixing it was simply booting into the live cd and running fsck on the original drive, it found a whole bunch of inode errors, rebooted and it was fine
[03:12] <ZacLnxNewb> does anyone use deluge?
[03:13] <ZacLnxNewb> where is the configuration file used to say, change the port I access deluge from?
[03:13] <ZacLnxNewb> myserver.com:8112 to myserver.com:602
[03:15] <ZacLnxNewb> Roasted:  you there still?
[03:27] <RoyK> win 11
[03:35] <ZacLnxNewb> damn it, now deluge doesn't work
[03:36] <ZacLnxNewb> RoyK: Willing to help me again? :p
[03:37] <RoyK> for wj
[03:37] <RoyK> for what?
[03:38] <ZacLnxNewb> RoyK:  I just installed deluge, I restarted my server and was able to connect using the web ui in the browser through 192.168.1.250:8112
[03:38] <ZacLnxNewb> RoyK:  in the deluge settings through the web ui, I changed the port from 8112 to 602
[03:39] <ZacLnxNewb> RoyK:  then rebooted the server again, and now everything is inaccessible through http
[03:39] <RoyK> aorrt - mp
[03:39] <RoyK> no odea
[03:40] <ZacLnxNewb> RoyK: actually, seems the website portion jsut started working
[03:40] <ZacLnxNewb> RoyK:  can't connect to deluge at all though
[03:42] <RoyK> I thought I wss to lose a 35TB pool today
[03:42] <RoyK> lots of messups
[03:43] <ZacLnxNewb> RoyK: ouch
[03:43] <RoyK> so I'm not too ast answering
[03:49] <ZacLnxNewb> What the hell is this? "~/.config/deluge/"
[03:51] <pmatulis_> looks like a hidden configuration file
[04:08] <ZacLnxNewb> can someone help me fix whatever deluge has done to my server?
[08:22] <twb> Anybody have experience with journalled quotas (-ousrjquota=aquota.user,jqfmt=vfsv0)?
[08:23] <twb> I just noticed that repquota isn't seeing any changes when I create new files, and it was some time ago (back when journal-less usrquota was in use instead.)
[08:33] <MTecknology> root@liber:/var/spool/exim4# mailq      0m  1.6K 1PpzH3-00065K-QO <> *** frozen ***      www-data@liber.profarius.com      <-- any ideas what might be setup wrong?
[08:35] <MTecknology> or more details- http://dpaste.com/425569/
[08:36] <twb> 19:36 <twb> Never mind, I found the problem.  For some reason quotaon(8) isn't being run at boot.  Fucking ubuntu garbage...
[08:44] <MTecknology> so... if I send an email to me@profarius.com from a web server that hosts the profarius.com website... it sends it to /var/mail/michael instead of to my email address
[08:45] <MTecknology> the header even holds the right "To: field"
[08:47] <huats> morning
[08:49] <MTecknology> huats: howdy
[09:04] <twb> This patch is necessary to make Lucid handle journalled quotas correctly!  http://paste.debian.net/107916/
[09:18] <eagles0513875> hey guys quick question is a cloud limited to running virtual machines or can for instance a dedicated server be put in the cloud
[09:20] <gnuyoga> whole idea of cloud is self provisioning … doing that with a bare metal is possible but for that
[09:20] <gnuyoga> you can use something like cobbler
[09:21] <twb> "Cobbler is a Linux provisioning server that centralizes and simplifies control of services including DHCP, TFTP, and DNS for the purpose of performing network-based operating systems installs."
[09:22] <twb> ...so, it's dnsmasq.
[09:25] <twb> "Cobbler is a small and lightweight application (about 15k lines of Python code)."
[09:25] <lephisto> morgen
[09:25] <twb> ...whereas dnsmasq is 17kloc *including the TFTP, DNS and DHCP servers*.  Silly RH users!
[09:32] <eagles0513875> gnuyoga: whats cobbler?
[09:33] <eagles0513875> humm
[09:37] <gnuyoga> eagles0513875: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-linux-provisioning-automation-with-cobbler.html
[09:39] <eagles0513875> thanks :)
[09:45] <ttx> Any chance you could set up a tarball job for nova-bexar on Jenkins ? I'd like that set up before we start approving the post-release BMPs
[09:45] <ttx> soren: ^
[09:46] <ttx> aw
[09:46] <ttx> wrong channel
[09:47] <jibel> Daviey, hallyn , Hi. you marked 2 server tests as started yesterday, can you change the status on the tracker if it's done. thanks.
[09:48] <eagles0513875> thanks for the link gnuyoga :) will have to give cobbler a shot :)
[09:52] <bencer> could anyone from server team have a look at #720564, that blocks me in trying to upload new ebox/zentyal packages to natty
[09:53] <bencer> it's just a simple sync from debian
[09:55] <eagles0513875> bencer: that would have to be asked in ubuntu+1 as that is natty support
[09:56] <bencer> eagles0513875: is ubuntu+1 an irc channel? don't have many experience on ubuntu dev workflows
[09:56] <eagles0513875> ya it is
[09:56] <bencer> just saw it, thanks
[09:58] <bencer> well seems that it got already accepted
[09:58] <bencer> Build well, sync request ACKd
[09:58] <bencer> ** Changed in: libredis-perl (Ubuntu)
[09:58] <bencer>        Status: New => Confirmed
[09:59] <eagles0513875> bencer: :) patience is the key
[10:52] <plm> Hi all
[10:53] <plm> anyone know what package in Ubuntu hjas the "pdo sqlite driver"?
[10:53] <plm> I try with apt-cache search but not sucesss
[10:54] <TeTeT> plm: maybe php5-sqlite: /usr/lib/php5/20090626+lfs/pdo_sqlite.so
[10:54] <TeTeT> plm: I used apt-file search pdo | grep sqlite for that output
[10:54] <soren> $ apt-cache search pdo sqlite
[10:54] <soren> php5-sqlite - SQLite module for php5
[10:54] <soren> php-db - PHP PEAR Database Abstraction Layer
[10:57] <plm> TeTeT: so I have that installed..  But I have this error: [Thu Feb 17 08:45:59 2011] [error] [client 192.168.0.30] PHP Fatal error:  Uncaught exception 'PDOException' with message 'could not find driver' in /var/www/web/classes/csql.php:88\
[10:57] <plm> A complete error is here http://dpaste.com/425885/
[10:58] <soren> plm: "/var/www/web/db..." looks odd.
[10:58] <TeTeT> plm: I'm afraid I know nothing about this error
[10:59] <Daviey> jibel, ack
[11:13] <plm> soren: TeTeT solved. I restart apache after install php5 module, but now after install sqlite driver...
[11:17] <TeTeT> plm: ah, great that it works now
[11:18] <Daviey> jibel, The reason i haven't passed it yet, was because i wanted to question postifx being installed on a plain server install.  I don't remember that being in 10.04.
[11:19] <Daviey> and a running network service by default is a new feature.
[11:40] <Daviey> jibel, duh... it's because i did the RAID-1 install.
[11:40] <Daviey> marked as passed
[12:40] <jibel> Daviey, thanks for your help in testing.
[12:40] <Daviey> hallyn / jdstrand: Are either of you planning a libvirt merge soon?
[12:40] <Daviey> jibel, np.. I intended to do more, but seemed to already have pretty good coverage!
[12:41] <jibel> Daviey, indeed, the results are pretty good.
[12:52] <hallyn> Daviey: i handed jdstrand 0.8.7, but it's looking like 0.8.8 has mostly papercut bugfixes so we may just want to immediately jump to that (it just came out today)
[12:53] <hallyn> bia
[12:53] <hallyn> biab
[12:53] <jdstrand> hallyn: I haven't reviewed it yet, if you are keen on doing 0.8.8, feel free to give it to me and I'll review it instead
[12:58] <hallyn> jdstrand: only bc it looks like it might fix bug 720426
[12:59] <hallyn> uh, hm, then again i guess it might not :)  but lemme see how trivial that bump is
[13:00] <hallyn> RoAkSoAx: so yeah, as of yesterday I suddenly have the same disk io woes you have.  to the point thta it made me stop working when the family went to bed bc laptop fan kept going off like a fighter jet
[13:02] <ivoks> kirkland: congrats ;)
[13:02] <kirkland> ivoks: :-)  thanks
[13:03] <jdstrand> hallyn: fyi, I think my temperature issues in the guests unstable bug are bug #716528
[13:04] <jdstrand> hallyn: so I guess put me in the me too camp there
[13:04] <jdstrand> (and I just did in the bug)
[13:05] <jussi> would it be even remotely safe to install a maverick package on a hardy server? (ie. http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/libemail-sender-transport-smtp-tls-perl)
[13:17] <Daviey> hallyn / jdstrand: That is good news, i noticed it bumped from experimental to unstable.
[13:18] <ivoks> Daviey: hi, how are you?
[13:18] <Daviey> ivoks, Hello sir!  Not too bad.. how are you keeping?
[13:19] <ivoks> Daviey: hanging :) by a thread :)
[13:20] <Daviey> ivoks, heh... so...... mail stack... how is it doing for natty? :)
[13:20]  * ivoks walks away :)
[13:21] <Daviey> lol
[13:21] <ivoks> Daviey: i'll look at it in next couple of days
[13:21] <ivoks> i still don't have natty dev environment
[13:22]  * ivoks runs away :)
[13:22] <Daviey> ivoks, that is good... Feb 24th... Feature Freeze :)
[13:23] <ivoks> pih
[13:25]  * hallyn hates guis
[13:55] <JamesPage> Daviey: hows the euca dhcp issue in natty coming along?
[13:58] <Daviey> JamesPage, funny you ask...
[13:58] <Daviey> JamesPage, no good progress at the moment..
[13:59] <Daviey> I don't think upstream will land a configuration option.. I'm currently writing a wrapper to just check it /will/ work.. If it does, i'll change it in code.
[13:59] <Daviey> JamesPage, why do you ask?
[13:59] <JamesPage> Daviey: bug 717166
[14:01] <MadHaTTer_777> hey ppl i need some support with ubuntu 64-bit server 10.10
[14:01] <MadHaTTer_777> can anyone help?
[14:01] <Daviey> JamesPage, thanks.. i've just confirmed it
[14:01] <JamesPage> Daviey: same issue yes?
[14:02] <Daviey> JamesPage, yeah, sadly
[14:03] <MadHaTTer_777> my issue has been going on for about a week and its a pain
[14:03] <MadHaTTer_777> problem after problem
[14:04] <MadHaTTer_777> but now im near the end of fixing it at least
[14:04] <JamesPage> MadHaTTer_777: well you are in the right place - whats your problem?
[14:05] <MadHaTTer_777> ok im trying to install a usb modem their software didnt work so i got some code online tweaked it and edited the wvdial and widial files now
[14:06] <MadHaTTer_777> its a usb flip flop device btw the code i was talking about is to get it to change mode
[14:06] <MadHaTTer_777> now in terminal it gives me 2 dif errors at random
[14:06] <MadHaTTer_777> when i wvdial
[14:07] <MadHaTTer_777> i get "--> Cannot open /dev/ttyUSB0: device or resource busy
[14:07] <MadHaTTer_777> 3 times
[14:08] <MadHaTTer_777> the other error is where it tells me to add the option of pppd in wvdial.conf
[14:08] <MadHaTTer_777> how do i fix these?
[14:11] <RoAkSoAx> morning all
[14:12] <JamesPage> hey RoAkSoAx
[14:14] <MadHaTTer_777> wth?
[14:16] <MadHaTTer_777> anyone know how to fix these errors?
[14:16] <apw> someone was talking to me about nbd, and we had two issues, first that the second open deadlocked (now resolved) and a second which was bad opens r/w of a r/o device which was failing
[14:17] <apw> can anyone remember
[14:18] <ogra> apw, i bet that was stgraber
[14:18] <apw> ahh thanks ... wanted to know what happened to the userspace changes ... seems the kernel change may have been temp reverted cause of the userspace carnage, but i do wnat to make sure its getting fixed
[14:20] <MadHaTTer_777> ANY IDEA HOW TO FIX MY PROBLEM?
[14:20] <MadHaTTer_777> also i have another problem once these 2 r fixed
[14:21] <MadHaTTer_777> something wrong with apt
[14:21] <MadHaTTer_777> hash sum mismatch
[14:24] <JamesPage> MadHaTTer_777: so I guess that you are referring to drivers for the USB modem with regards to the code you got online
[14:24] <JamesPage> MadHaTTer_777:  whats the make/model of USB modem you are using?
[14:25] <MadHaTTer_777> so what can be done about it?
[14:25] <MadHaTTer_777> it wont help
[14:26] <JamesPage> MadHaTTer_777: well maybe not but I like to have the full facts before commenting on something...
[14:26] <MadHaTTer_777> acs franklin wireless cdu680 p/n du6800-014-ac ive been through all the usuall
[14:27] <MadHaTTer_777> the manu site was last updated around the time of ubuntu 7.4
[14:27] <MadHaTTer_777> the isp told me they dont even use the software that comes with the modem cause it doesnt work 4 sht
[14:28] <MadHaTTer_777> brb i need a smoke
[14:32] <MadHaTTer_777> bk
[14:32] <MadHaTTer_777> u there james?
[14:33] <JamesPage> MadHaTTer_777: yep
[14:33] <Sheepherd> hey guys im bout to set up a ubuntu server and got a teacher that tells me that installing servers virtually with VMware vSphere is the best way. is he right?
[14:34] <Sheepherd> i mean he says security is better and hes prolly right but isnt a virtual server more error-prone due to incompatibilities?
[14:35] <Sheepherd> because its another layer that has to work perfectly
[14:37] <MadHaTTer_777> so can u help me?
[14:38] <JamesPage> MadHaTTer_777: I'm drawing a blank at the moment; I can't find anything more than you have already found;
[14:39] <JamesPage> it looks like a driver issue of some description
[14:39] <zul> ill upload a new cobbler snapshot tomorrow
[14:41] <JamesPage> MadHaTTer_777: have you seen this - https://custsupport.alaskacommunications.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/304/~/installing-the-mobile-broadband-cdu-680-on-linux
[14:42] <MadHaTTer_222> back
[14:43] <JamesPage> MadHaTTer_222: have you read this - https://custsupport.alaskacommunications.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/304/~/installing-the-mobile-broadband-cdu-680-on-linux
[14:43] <MadHaTTer_222> yes thats garbage
[14:45] <MadHaTTer_222> and im past that anyways'
[14:46] <MadHaTTer_222> i can get all that feed as described there its after that i get the problems
[14:52] <JamesPage> fair enough; I'm just refreshing on wvdial - not used it in a LONG time
[14:53] <MadHaTTer_222> ir seems like its a problem with pppd
[14:54] <MadHaTTer_222> in the one error it says to use the option in wvdial.conf to specify the pppd
[14:55] <ikonia> MadHaTTer_222: this is the channel for ubuntu server, you stated earlier this was a problem on your deskop
[14:56] <MadHaTTer_222> no ikonia it is a problem in ubuntu server 64 bit as i stated earlier
[14:56] <ikonia> my mistake, I thought you said it was a problem with your desktop in the other channel
[14:57] <MadHaTTer_222> i did temperoraly install the desktop on it but plan to remove it once finished
[14:57] <MadHaTTer_222> kubuntu i belive its called
[14:57] <ikonia> no, that's a desktop
[14:57] <ikonia> not a server
[14:57] <MadHaTTer_222> im new to linux as i said
[14:57] <ikonia> so please don't ask for desktop support in here
[14:57] <MadHaTTer_222> no its a server
[14:58] <ikonia> no, kubuntu is a desktop
[14:58] <MadHaTTer_222> like i just said i temp installed a desktop on the server
[14:58] <MadHaTTer_222> ik
[14:58] <ikonia> ok, so it's the server os with a deskop
[14:58] <MadHaTTer_222> yes
[14:58] <ikonia> great, no problem
[14:59] <JamesPage> MadHaTTer_222: so there are some differences between a normal desktop install and a server install - for example the kernel is different
[14:59] <JamesPage> this is not a normal device to be installing in a server so that could be the issue; you could try running a desktop live cd to see if that makes any difference.
[14:59] <MadHaTTer_222> yes i am using ubuntu server 64 bit
[15:00] <ikonia> JamesPage's great advice, there are additional modules available for the desktop kernel
[15:00] <ikonia> MadHaTTer_222: try the desktop install
[15:00] <ikonia> may help when reporting the bug that you have tried on both desktop and server kernel
[15:01] <JamesPage> if it still does not work suggest that you report a bug against ubuntu for this device - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReportingBugs
[15:01] <JamesPage> You can run the a live cd without installing Ubuntu which means that you current server install will remain intact.
[15:02] <MadHaTTer_222> that would be nice
[15:02] <MadHaTTer_222> also u know anything about a prob i get with apt
[15:02] <MadHaTTer_222> hash sum mismatch
[15:02] <JamesPage> I think the pppd issue is a red-herring - you should only need to specify this if the install of pppd is non standard which it is not in Ubuntu
[15:03] <MadHaTTer_222> what u mean?
[15:03] <ikonia> MadHaTTer_222: could you show me the output of uname -a on your machine please ?
[15:03] <MadHaTTer_222> non standard not in ubuntu?
[15:04] <JamesPage> It is installed in /usr/sbin/pppd which is standard
[15:04] <MadHaTTer_222> yeah just a sec i gotta ics it through this machine
[15:04] <ikonia> no problem
[15:04] <JamesPage> For you other issue try running sudo apt-get clean - sounds like you having a corrupt .deb or suchlike
[15:05] <JamesPage> s/having/have/
[15:05] <MadHaTTer_222> i cleaned it and auto cleaned it already didnt work
[15:09] <MadHaTTer_777> http://pastebin.com/stQulvqx
[15:09] <ikonia> MadHaTTer_222: that is an empty paste
[15:09] <ikonia> oops
[15:10] <ikonia> MadHaTTer_777: that is an empty paste
[15:10] <MadHaTTer_777> theres what u wanted ikonia
[15:10] <MadHaTTer_777> or not
[15:10] <MadHaTTer_777> lol srry
[15:11] <MadHaTTer_777> i quit?
[15:11] <MadHaTTer_777> again?
[15:12] <ikonia> please post the info I asked for
[15:15] <MadHaTTer_777> still dont belive me on the ver huh i am im just bringing the other come in the irc now
[15:16] <ikonia> what ?
[15:19] <MadHaTTer_777> http://pastebin.com/stQu1vqx
[15:19] <b0gatyr_> question, when mounting a windows share do you guys still use the credentials file and change permissions to root?
[15:20] <MadHaTTer_777> brb i dont think it will let me on the irc using 2 comps and the same ip for both
[15:20]  * EtienneG page kirkland
[15:20] <kirkland> EtienneG: yo
[15:20] <EtienneG> kirkland, ehw and myself (well, mostly ehw) went through the bug related to the proposed likewise-open SRU
[15:21] <EtienneG> kirkland, https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/534629 and friends
[15:21] <ikonia> !info linux-image
[15:21] <EtienneG> kirkland, that's the branch you reviewed last December during your patch pilot
[15:21] <kirkland> EtienneG: right
[15:22] <MadHaTTer_333> k now im on the ubuntu machine
[15:22] <MadHaTTer_333> http://pastebin.com/stQu1vqx
[15:22] <EtienneG> kirkland, when you have a minute, would you mind having a look and see if it can be sponsored?
[15:22] <ikonia> MadHaTTer_333: ok, so you need to update your kernel to the current version, that's a good start
[15:22] <EtienneG> kirkland, if there's anything missing, just let us know, we'll fix it
[15:23] <ikonia> MadHaTTer_333: always better to log a bug on the current kernel
[15:25] <hallyn> is anyone here using ipmi who could test+verify the proposed fix for 473332 so I can request the patch to be merged?
[15:25] <RoAkSoAx> SpamapS: around?
[15:26] <hallyn> that is, for bug 473332
[15:32] <hggdh> anyone able to test 10.04.2 iSCSI for http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/?
[15:32] <MadHaTTer_777> can u hear me now?
[15:33] <ikonia> MadHaTTer_777: yes
[15:42] <MadHaTTer_999> sorry again
[15:42] <MadHaTTer_999> these modems suck
[15:42] <MadHaTTer_999> so how do u update the kernel
[15:42] <MadHaTTer_999> apt-get update what?
[15:43] <patdk-wk> normally dist-upgrade
[15:43] <MadHaTTer_999> thanx
[15:43] <jmarsden> MadHaTTer_999: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:46] <MadHaTTer_777> wtf is with my modems i efin hate my shty isp
[15:47] <MadHaTTer_777> its updating now
[15:47] <MadHaTTer_777> gonna be bout 10 mins
[15:47] <robbiew> Daviey: JamesPage: kirkland: RoAkSoAx: smoser: SpamapS: zul:  hallyn:  can anyone help with 10.04.2 iso testing?
[15:47] <robbiew> skaet_: is waiting on us
[15:47] <kirkland> robbiew: sure thing;  i synced them last night
[15:48] <robbiew> :/
[15:48] <kirkland> robbiew: i'm on it now
[15:48] <JamesPage> robbiew: yep - I'll pickup some more now
[15:48] <_1094kms> I'm at a loss to find out where my firewall records (iptables -L) come from. apparmor uninstalled, ufw disabled, nothing in /etc/network ... where else can they be??
[15:48] <MadHaTTer_777> ohh the hash sum mismatch from what i can tell i think its cause my isp stamps the packets and screws it up any way around this?
[15:48] <smoser> robbiew, i'm patch-piloting right now, but i can later. i'll check in with kirkland after lunch on it.
[15:49] <robbiew> thnx all
[15:49] <Daviey> robbiew, hmm
[15:49] <Daviey> robbiew, I thought the coverage was good?
[15:49] <MadHaTTer_777> brb im gonna have another smoke while this updates
[15:50] <Daviey> robbiew, The JeOS test cases are not required aiui
[15:50] <SpamapS> RoAkSoAx: here now.
[15:52] <Daviey> hallyn, any update on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/result/4995/265 ?
[15:52] <sjm> where can I report a bug in ubuntu (tzdata)?
[15:52] <Daviey> robbiew, other than that - i think we are pretty complete?
[15:52] <zul> robbiew: hudson says its good with the iso testing of i386 if that helps
[15:53] <robbiew> Daviey: I'm just relaying what skaet_ told me
[15:53] <Daviey> robbiew, oh ok
[15:53] <jibel> All, we are missing iSCSI test cases and marjo is experiencing a problem with i386 preseed.
[15:54] <SpamapS> http://svn.php.net/viewvc/php/php-src/tags/php_5_3_6RC1/NEWS?revision=308400&view=markup
[15:54] <zul> SpamapS: yes i track it regularily ;)
[15:54] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: who runs iso.qa.ubuntu.com?  I reset my password a few minutes ago and haven't gotten the email back yet
[15:54] <kirkland> robbiew: ^
[15:54] <SpamapS> zul: they had discussed getting 5.3.6 out very soon.. maybe we should shoot to ship it before FF
[15:55] <hallyn> Daviey: no.  alas usb-creator-gtk did not serve me well
[15:55] <hallyn> retrying as we speak
[15:55] <zul> SpamapS: i was mulling over it...but it all depends when they release it
[15:55] <SpamapS> zul: typically their RC cycles are really short
[15:56] <kirkland> FYI, all, I'll take the RAID1 tests
[15:56] <kirkland> can someone mark those as "started" for me?
[15:56]  * kirkland can't login right now
[15:56] <zul> SpamapS: ack.. well see how busy we get ;)
[15:56] <_1094kms> if I have an entry in /etc/init/ufw.conf =
[15:56] <SpamapS> zul: I know 5.3.6 fixes at least one really weird issue that I've been tracking where some SSL sites are inaccessible because the remote server doesn't support some feature that openssl added recently
[15:56] <SpamapS> zul: if its going to happen, its going to be all you ;)
[15:56] <_1094kms> sry - does it mean it starts automatically on ubuntu 10.04?
[15:56] <Daviey> kirkland, i've done  RAID-1
[15:57] <kirkland> Daviey: not i386
[15:57] <kirkland> Daviey: according to the tracker
[15:57] <Daviey> ah, good point
[15:57] <Daviey> :)
[15:57] <kirkland> Daviey: can you mark that one "started" for me?
[15:57] <Daviey> kirkland, ack
[15:57] <zul> SpamapS: cool about the openssl bug....not so cool about all being on me
[15:57] <SpamapS> are you guys doing tests for 10.04.2 or latest natty?
[15:58] <Daviey> SpamapS, lucid
[15:58] <jibel> kirkland, Daviey JamesPage, hallyn   Can someone take care of i386 preseed and confirm if it's really broken
[15:59] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: dunno! I just reset the password myself less than half an hour ago
[15:59] <RoAkSoAx> and it worked correctly
[15:59] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: how long did it take for you to get the email?
[15:59] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: it was instant
[15:59] <hallyn> Daviey: so, this is sucking:  i had installed it under kvm just fine, but of course couldn't test kvm module loading there.  on my test laptop booted from usb, install hangs at /lib/partman/automatically_partition/50biggest_free/choices
[16:00] <hallyn> Daviey: and i don't know if that failure is just bc of usb-creator-gtk
[16:00] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: note that you need to login with the user you selected rather than with your email
[16:00] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: lucky
[16:00] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: (i was trying to log in with my email too and didn't work xD )
[16:00] <JamesPage> jibel: whats the current issue with the i386 preseed?
[16:00] <Daviey> jibel, hggdh has marked preseed ok.... what issue did marjo have?
[16:01] <JamesPage> jibel: as all of the automated ISO tests use preseed I'd not be to worried.
[16:01] <Daviey> hallyn, yeah... seems there is a bug regarding usb-creator
[16:01] <hggdh> Daviey: marjo got a d-i error on install: E: Package linux-headers-generic has no installation candidate
[16:01] <jibel> JamesPage, Daviey we have +1 and -1 on this testcase, I'd like to confirm that its really good.
[16:01] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: aha, that was it!
[16:01] <hggdh> which is weird
[16:01] <Daviey> hallyn, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usb-creator/+bug/645818
[16:01] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: they should really integrate it with openid
[16:02] <Daviey> hggdh, do you have your preseed?
[16:02] <RoAkSoAx> SpamapS: Is there any docs to create and test upstart jobs?
[16:02] <hggdh> JamesPage: the minimal install is hosed on hudson
[16:02] <Daviey> jibel, do you have the preseed that marjo used?
[16:02] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: no kidding!
[16:02] <hggdh> JamesPage: after install it was 700+ MB in size, and with iptables set
[16:03] <SpamapS> RoAkSoAx: Right now upstart.ubuntu.com and man 5 init are the best sources of information
[16:03] <Daviey> kirkland, Federate single sign on is overated... i love maintaining seperate usernames and passwords everywhere... it's a hobby:)
[16:03] <hallyn> Daviey: i don't think that's my problem, as i can boot fine, it's during the disk partitioning steps that it freezes
[16:03] <hggdh> Daviey: yes, it is at http://people.canonical.com/~cerdea/preseed.cfg
[16:03] <kirkland> Daviey: :-D
[16:03] <jibel> Daviey, http://people.canonical.com/~cerdea/preseed.cfg
[16:03] <JamesPage> hggdh: which builds? I can't see this issue.
[16:03] <SpamapS> RoAkSoAx: as far as testing it.. well.. you really need to whole boot to happen to test if it starts at the right point and blocks what it needs to block.. so VMs are the best way to test.
[16:03] <Daviey> hallyn, ah.... NFI then, sorry
[16:04] <hallyn> Daviey: unless i'ts pissed off that i'm installing without network.  but that shouldn' tstall partman
[16:04] <Daviey> hallyn, hmm.. installing without networking has been tested as successfull
[16:04] <Daviey> ... but that was without libvirt
[16:05] <Daviey> I'd imagine it would fail after disk setup... that is too early in the process to be relevant IMO
[16:05] <hggdh> JamesPage: lucid server builds. I monitored it here -- installation is successful, but a *LOT* of packages are isntalled
[16:05] <Daviey> hallyn, I'm guessing bad media tbh.
[16:06] <hallyn> Daviey: i've done usb-creator-gtk twice on different (natty) hosts
[16:06] <RoAkSoAx> SpamapS: so manually copying a job to /etc/init/ would not actually help?
[16:06] <hallyn> Daviey: then i'm not sure i can do that test until i can get to the store and buy some blanks at lunch
[16:07] <hggdh> JamesPage: http://204.236.234.12/view/lucid-server-amd64/job/lucid-server-amd64_virtual-host/lastFailedBuild/artifact/1/test-results/d-i-syslog.log.gz
[16:07] <Daviey> hallyn, i mean, usb media problem?
[16:07] <Daviey> Have another stick to test?
[16:07] <hallyn> Daviey: no.  this one's brand new though
[16:12]  * hallyn running to the store for some (*&$*% cds
[16:13] <JamesPage> hggdh: thats not a minimal virtual install - that's a virtual host test - I would expect it to be more that 500M!
[16:14] <hggdh> JamesPage: oh joy, I cannot even _read_
[16:14] <JamesPage> hggdh: still does not look that good
[16:14] <JamesPage> as it timed out....
[16:15] <hggdh> yep. Do you set, anywhere, iptables?
[16:17] <MadHaTTer_777> alright its done updating
[16:18] <MadHaTTer_777> now the wvdail is giving me the error --> cannot open /dev/ttyusb0: device or resource busy
[16:19] <JamesPage> hggdh: don't think so.
[16:19] <MadHaTTer_777> i need to sleep ill be back soon its 720 am
[16:19] <froggymana> Hello. I recently compiled nagios and followed the guide for setting it up, but now I want remove that so I can use the packaged version which I just found out about
[16:20] <MadHaTTer_777> bye for now thanx
[16:20] <froggymana> Anybody familar with nagios?
[16:22] <ikonia> froggymana: sure
[16:22] <hggdh> zul: do not reboot cempedak now, I am setting a UEC install
[16:23] <zul> hggdh: k
[16:23] <ikonia> !ops | MadHaTTer_777 using offensive language in channel and in pm and a bad attitude, banned from multiple channels
[16:30] <MadHaTTer_777> ??? ikonia r we good now?
[16:30] <MadHaTTer_777> or r u trying to have me banned from yet another channel?
[16:30] <KB1JWQ> MadHaTTer_777: Please remember the code of conduct.
[16:31] <MadHaTTer_777> yeah i think ikonia forgot to mention i was apolagising and thanking him
[16:31] <KB1JWQ> Take it to PM please.
[16:31] <MadHaTTer_777> lol goodnight all
[16:38] <RoAkSoAx> SpamapS: would you say this would be a good approximation of upstart job? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/568297/
[16:43] <SpamapS> RoAkSoAx: whoa.. thats a big one :)
[16:43]  * SpamapS suspects that is not the first time RoAkSoAx has heard that
[16:44] <SpamapS> RoAkSoAx: hrm, almost.. let me tweak it a little..
[16:45]  * SpamapS wishes paste.ubuntu.com had a 'new paste from this one' button
[16:46] <SpamapS> RoAkSoAx: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/568303/
[16:47] <SpamapS> RoAkSoAx: so two things.. 1) start on started networking is too early if you have dhcp interfaces, since 'ifup -a' will return immediately
[16:47] <SpamapS> which actually means I did it wrong again..
[16:47] <SpamapS> and it should probably be start on net-device-up IFACE!=lo
[16:48] <RoAkSoAx> SpamapS: ok cool. will try it out
[16:48] <SpamapS> RoAkSoAx: anyway, 2) the logic on whether or not to start the daemon is only needed in pre-start .. you don't want to re-run that stuff when the daemon respawns or is restarted, for instance.
[16:49] <RoAkSoAx> SpamapS: right, I did the pre-start thing and it still started the dameon regardless
[16:49] <SpamapS> RoAkSoAx: questions: Does the current package ship a /etc/default/corosync ? Also, does the daemon work without a real network? (meaning lo)
[16:49] <RoAkSoAx> of wether the validation was successful or unsuccessful
[16:49] <SpamapS> RoAkSoAx: right, note that I also did 'stop'
[16:50] <RoAkSoAx> SpamapS: yes the package ships /etc/default/corosync and the daemon needs to work with networking up
[16:50] <RoAkSoAx> SpamapS: first time it boots, 127.0.0.1 should be up and that's it
[16:51] <RoAkSoAx> SpamapS: but after being configured, it needs to start after the iface(s) have their IP addresses
[16:51] <SpamapS> RoAkSoAx: so if you do 'start on net-device-up IFACE!=lo' then it won't be started until a real iface is up
[16:52] <RoAkSoAx> SpamapS: ok cool!! thanks. Will test it
[16:54] <SpamapS> RoAkSoAx: hopefully this will be simpler when we abstract it a bit and you can just say 'start on starting network-services'
[16:55] <RoAkSoAx> SpamapS: yeah, it indeed needs some improvements
[16:59] <kirkland> JamesPage: looks like you're on "Install (JeOS on KVM)", right?
[16:59] <JamesPage> kirkland: yep - for amd64?  Just waiting for my iso download to complete
[17:03] <kirkland> JamesPage: k
[17:03] <kirkland> hallyn: did you complete http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/result/4995/265?
[17:04] <kirkland> hallyn: looks like you started that yesterday
[17:07] <hallyn> kirkland: as i just old Daviey, no
[17:08] <hallyn> kirkland: usb-creator-gtk messes up the image
[17:08] <hallyn> kirkland: and i have no cds
[17:08] <kirkland> hallyn: okay
[17:08] <kirkland> hallyn: i'll take that one
[17:08] <hallyn> kirkland: awesome, thanks.  I thought I was running out 20 mins ago to buy cds, but felt compelled to reproduce another bug first
[17:09] <kirkland> hallyn: heh, don't buy cds :-)
[17:09] <hallyn> kirkland: well i've got to, this is ridiculous :)
[17:09] <hallyn> i've got two on a shelf at the old place, but that doesn't help this morning
[17:10] <hallyn> kirkland: went ahead and deleted my 'result', thaks
[17:10] <hallyn> thanks, that is
[17:10] <Daviey> hallyn, don't stress over it... at least you know of an issue testing for alpha3 testing :)
[17:11] <hallyn> yup i am to be prepared for the next round :)
[17:17] <RoAkSoAx> SpamapS: the upstart job seems to be working amazingly. thanks for that one ;)
[17:27] <SpamapS> RoAkSoAx: cool!
[17:27] <SpamapS> RoAkSoAx: make sure to test the reload command
[17:28] <ivoks> SpamapS: any news about cloning in upstart?
[17:28] <ivoks> clonning even :)
[17:28] <SpamapS> ivoks: as in, the expect fork bug that fails to see clones as forks?
[17:28] <ivoks> SpamapS: yes
[17:29] <SpamapS> ivoks: none.. but I'm talking w/ jhunt_ right now about upstart bugs
[17:29] <ivoks> RoAkSoAx: ^
[17:29] <ivoks> so that upstart job isn't working amazingly... it doesn't work at all :)
[17:30] <RoyK> backing up 25TB over a gigE link takes some time.... :P
[17:30] <jkg> feel my pain, trying to back up 100GB over ~300kbps ADSL upstream... :P
[17:34] <hallyn> never understimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of mag tapes
[17:34] <JamesPage> kirkland, hggdh, zul: I'm guessing that my minimal virtual install should end up with a -virtual kernel? (as described in ISO test case)
[17:35] <zul> thats my belief as well unless something has changed
[17:35] <patdk-wk> hallyn, why? just a 4gig usb stick would be faster, in rush hour traffic :)
[17:35] <hallyn> young whippersnappers
[17:36] <JamesPage> OK well this is odd - the linux-image-virtual package is installed but uname -r returns 2.6.32-28-server
[17:36] <patdk-wk> heh, a single lto1 tape? :)
[17:36] <patdk-wk> jamespage, that is normal
[17:36] <patdk-wk> -virtual is a meta package (alias)
[17:37] <JamesPage> OK then the ISO test case needs to be updated as it says otherwise  - hggdh?
[17:37] <patdk-wk> or check it with dpkg --get-selections | grep -virtual
[17:37] <patdk-wk> and see if it's installed
[17:38] <patdk-wk> hmm, linux-virtual maybe, - will probably freak grep out
[17:38] <hggdh> JamesPage: I just found the same -- -v irtual is installed, but uname -r returns -server
[17:38] <ivoks> SpamapS: RoAkSoAx doesn't trust me, please tell him that until clonning works in upstart, upstart shouldn't be used for corosync :)
[17:39] <JamesPage> hggdh: it passes the test in every other way except uname -r :-)
[17:39] <ivoks> fwiw, that bug is reported cause of the issues with corosync
[17:40] <SpamapS> RoAkSoAx: ivoks is right.. or corosync needs a foreground option
[17:40] <ivoks> :)
[17:42] <Maleko> anyone knows the formula that 'nice' uses to determine amount of cpu time to allocate to a process?
[17:42] <RoAkSoAx> ivoks: lol I do trust you, I just said I;m working on pacemaker 1.1.4 and corosync 1.3.0 which is NOT shipped in Natty
[17:45] <hggdh> jamespage: the question now is should it be -virtual, or -server? Who can answer that, foundations?
[17:45] <jamespage> hggdh: or kernel?
[17:46] <hggdh> jamespage: aye, kernel, of course. I guess ;-)
[17:46]  * jamespage goes to ask on #ubuntu-kernel
[17:47] <hggdh> Daviey: uec is tested, correct?
[17:48] <Daviey> hggdh, yes - simple topology only
[17:48] <Daviey> hggdh, if you wanted to do multi-host... that would be good. :)
[17:50] <kirkland> jamespage: yeah
[17:51] <zul> hggdh: hey can i reboot?
[17:51] <jamespage> ok so that answer was that for lucid its -server; but for maverick + its -virtual
[17:51] <hggdh> zul: yes, sorry
[17:54] <hggdh> jamespage: test updated with the caveat
[17:54] <jamespage> hggdh: \o/
[17:54] <hggdh> :-)
[17:54]  * jamespage thinks he might need to cut back on the coffee
[17:57] <jamespage> hggdh: I think thats OK for amd64 but i386 is different again; -generic-pae
[17:57] <jamespage> hggdh: looking at the seeds on the ISO's this would make sense.
[17:57] <hggdh> oh bloody hell
[17:57] <hggdh> jamespage: are we defaulting to always install -pae?
[17:58] <binaryhat> qman__, u around?
[17:58] <jamespage> hggdh: thats what the preseeds on the i386 iso say
[17:58] <hggdh> jamespage: so... back to ask somebody? Now it should be foundations, right?
[17:59] <hggdh> or kernel again?
[17:59] <jamespage> kernel again
[17:59] <jamespage> (I think)
[18:00] <hggdh> just asked there
[18:01] <jamespage> saw
[18:03] <jamespage> hggdh: guess it was a question for foundations then!
[18:04] <hggdh> jamespage: heh. well, we bait, and see who bites
[18:04]  * patdk-wk likes to bite
[18:05]  * hggdh takes the bait off the water
[18:06] <hggdh> cjwatson: what capabilities are looked for in i386 (on install) to decide if it is a standard kernel, or a -pae one?
[18:06] <patdk-wk> -virtual always instealls pae
[18:06] <patdk-wk> atleast on lucid :)
[18:07] <cjwatson> hggdh: don't have time to turn it into prose right now, but look in base-installer/kernel/i386.sh
[18:07] <hggdh> cjwatson: good enough, thanks -- a pointer is very nice
[18:08] <cjwatson> unfortunately the server installer does always install -pae right now; this is a known bug, namely bug 227869
[18:08] <cjwatson> one of these days ...
[18:10] <binaryhat> qman__, i just got a new psu and ran mem test and it still shuts off. im at loss
[18:11] <RoAkSoAx>  /win 3
[18:12] <hggdh> jamespage: this was on the JeOS on KVM, right?
[18:12] <jamespage> yep
[18:12] <jamespage> I documented this in the test result in the test tracker
[18:14] <kirkland> robbiew: how are we looking?  looks like JeOS on ESX is the only thing untested now....
[18:16] <robbiew> kirkland: yeah...and I wonder if that needs to be "mandatory"
[18:17] <patdk-wk> JeOS?
[18:18] <patdk-wk> show me the page and I'll test on esx 4.1
[18:18] <patdk-wk> or 4.0 if you wish
[18:19] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: i'd think that it's an optional case
[18:20] <hggdh> kirkland: we are trying to find someone with Windows to test it
[18:20] <kirkland> hggdh: k
[18:20] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: hugh?
[18:22] <patdk-wk> with windows to test what?
[18:23] <hggdh> patdk-wk: installing 10.04.2 on ESX (VMWare's)
[18:24] <patdk-wk> both iso's ubuntu server 386 and 64?
[18:25] <patdk-wk> ah, I'm firuing out that website
[18:25] <patdk-wk> heh, just didn't make sense to me at first
[18:25] <hggdh> yes, both
[18:25] <hggdh> patdk-wk: you are my hero :-)
[18:28] <patdk-wk> boot the cd == ubuntu server cd?
[18:29] <zul> hggdh: doesnt the lab have esx?
[18:29] <hggdh> zul: IDK
[18:30] <hggdh> patdk-wk: yes
[18:41] <jo-erlend> can Ubuntu boot from a software raid5 now? I'm particularly interested in 10.04.2, but all information is good :)
[18:42] <patdk-wk> I think grub2 can, but I doubt your bios can
[18:42] <jo-erlend> I hardly believe that bios cares about that.
[18:42] <patdk-wk> why? the bios has to pick a drive to boot
[18:43] <jo-erlend> yes, and?
[18:43] <patdk-wk> and if the drive it picks doesn't have the mbr on it
[18:43] <patdk-wk> it won't boot
[18:43] <jo-erlend> ... What does that have to do with raid?
[18:43] <patdk-wk> you really have no clue how raid works do you?
[18:44] <jo-erlend> I think that Linux cannot be booted without an MBR in any case. Is that wrong?
[18:44] <patdk-wk> linux can boot without mbr, linux doesn't care
[18:44] <patdk-wk> but your bios does
[18:45] <hggdh> Daviey: running uec separate install now
[18:45] <jo-erlend> patdk-wk, sure.. So I'll duplicate the MBR, which obviously is far outside of any raid setup.
[18:45] <jo-erlend> can grub boot a raid5 now?
[18:46] <patdk-wk> you need to duplicate grub on all disks
[18:46] <patdk-wk> not just the mbr
[18:48] <patdk-wk> hmm, actually, it looks like grub supports that already, looks like it installs itself to all mbr's
[18:48] <jo-erlend> ... Listen. I know how to setup boot from RAID5. I do not know if grub supports it in 10.04.2, which is what I'm asking.
[18:50] <tabularasa> Anyone build an NDT server on 10.10 ?
[18:55] <Daviey> hggdh, super
[19:00] <patdk-wk> hggdh, all pass, except the -virtual (-server/-generic-pae), and amd64 uses 520mb diskspace, and i386 using 506mb
[19:02] <hggdh> patdk-wk: can you please update the test entries? It passes, but please mark your findings. I will update the test steps to point out the -pae thingie
[19:02] <hggdh> patdk-wk: and THANK YOU!
[19:02] <patdk-wk> testing one more thing (cause I want to see it fail) :)
[19:03] <patdk-wk> tested both lsi logic parallel and sas, and flexible and e1000
[19:04] <patdk-wk> oh nice :)
[19:04] <patdk-wk> vmxnet3 + pvscsi worked also :)
[19:04] <patdk-wk> atleast for the installer, so far
[19:06]  * RoAkSoAx goes for lunch
[19:07] <patdk-wk> nice, that works also :)
[19:10] <hggdh> patdk-wk: cool! please ping me when you have the test results posted, if you do not mind
[19:12] <patdk-wk> posted
[19:27] <robbiew> EtienneG: thnx for the help!!!!
[19:29] <binaryhat> my pc still shuts off after running stress test
[19:36] <kirkland> lynxman: ping
[19:49] <EtienneG> robbiew, for what it is worth, you're welcome!  :)
[19:57] <ahasenack> hey guys, any hint about this vlan error?
[19:57] <ahasenack> [Thu Feb 17 19:57:11 2011][004568][EUCADEBUG ] StartNetwork(): params: userId=admin, netName=1b1155a5-d139-4d1a-9527-563364bdbd89, vlan=2950, nameserver=127.0.0.1, ccsLen=1
[19:57] <ahasenack> [Thu Feb 17 19:57:11 2011][004568][EUCAERROR ] vnetStartNetworkManaged(): supplied vlan '2950' is out of range (0 - 2047), cannot start network
[19:57] <ahasenack> the vlan range set in the UI is NOT 0-2047, but 2950-2999
[19:57] <ahasenack> so why isn't it sticking, or why is 2950 out of range?
[20:01] <ahasenack> hmm
[20:02] <ahasenack> I think I found it
[20:06] <sparc> Hey, there seems to be a lot of tools surrounding packaging, and building, which is awesome.
[20:06] <sparc> Are there any libraries that automate common tasks on might do in postinst?
[20:07] <sparc> like adding users, or modifying config files
[20:08] <sparc> my boss asked, to see if there were things i could re-use there
[20:08] <sparc> (in my opinion, it seems like chef and puppet, are for those things)
[20:12] <Giant81> ok setting up a syslog server with ubuntu-server, if I install syslog-ng and it removes rsyslog, and I set syslog-ng to only listen to a TCP stream, that will pretty much fark up my normal interal syslogs right?
[20:13] <hallyn> sparc: given the barbaric nature of the postinst's I've seen, I'd assume not
[20:14] <sparc> haha
[20:14] <sparc> ok :)
[20:15] <sparc> i'll try to write my own routines then, and see if it ends up being useful enough later, to post/share/etc
[20:15] <sparc> thanks
[20:16] <pmatulis_> Giant81: question #1, why do you want to get rid of rsyslog?
[20:16] <Giant81> I don't, I think it did it by mistake
[20:17] <pmatulis_> Giant81: question #2, why did you install syslog-ng?
[20:17] <Giant81> I think apt thought I wanted to replace rsyslog, when I just wanted to install someting to get remote messgaes
[20:17] <patdk-wk> rsyslog does remote messages
[20:18] <Giant81> my understanding of the syslog servers is this... syslogd is basic and replaced with syslog-ng, rsyslog has more features of syslog-ng and is default on ubuntu-server
[20:18] <patdk-wk> and syslog-ng and rsyslog don't get along
[20:18] <Giant81> I guess I fell more comfortable with seperate syslog daemons one for internal one for external, but if rsyslog is easy to seutp I have no problems using it
[20:19] <Giant81> I'll have to go back and do more reading
[20:19] <pmatulis_> Giant81: you got it
[20:19] <Giant81> I asked in a couple channels and nobody seem to have an opion but rsyslog vs syslog-ng I take it you're more of an rsyslog fan?
[20:20] <patdk-wk> I'm using syslog-ng
[20:20] <patdk-wk> cause I know how it works, and I know it can perform on the load I give it
[20:20] <patdk-wk> I should convert to rsyslog, but just haven't had time to test it yet
[20:20] <Giant81> I'm looking at about 800mb of syslogs /day
[20:20] <patdk-wk> no, the amount of logs isn't the problem
[20:21] <patdk-wk> the ammount of concurrent connections is (atleast for syslog-ng)
[20:21] <zul> hallyn: so im playing around with lxc/libvirt/openstack a bit more and i got 4 instances running with lxc and it hasnt blown up yet
[20:21] <Giant81> oh ok, I thought that was what you ment by load
[20:21] <Giant81> I'm only looking at maybe a dozen devices concurrent so I should be fine with about anything
[20:21] <patdk-wk> I'm doing about 3gigs per day
[20:21] <patdk-wk> I think
[20:22] <Giant81> is there some sort of compressed filesystem type I can use in linux?
[20:22] <patdk-wk> sure, many, but I wouldn't
[20:23] <Giant81> I know under windows I can set the compress flag on a folder, doesn't compress alot in comparison to an archive, but better than fat files on a volume
[20:23] <Giant81> preformance issues?
[20:23] <patdk-wk> have to use fuse
[20:23] <Giant81> I plan to just cron a tar job to compress the previous days logs anyway
[20:24]  * patdk-wk doesn't like fuse at all
[20:26] <jsebean> why is my server hdd used space climbing?
[20:26] <jsebean> pretty fast i thought
[20:27] <jkg> because you're storing more data on it. obvious guesses would be log files, received mail, or downloaded packages.
[20:27] <Giant81> myabe run a find for all files recently added?  not sure
[20:27] <jsebean> im not storing more data on it
[20:28] <Giant81> logs could be filling up etc...
[20:28] <Giant81> something is getting generated somewhere
[20:28] <jsebean> will go check, might have messed up somewhere
[20:38] <hallyn> zul: cool, and this is calling out to liblxc's tools?
[20:39] <hallyn> me, i'm playing with upstart for libcgroup :)  will be asking SpamapS to take a look soonish
[20:40] <zul> libvirt and lxc
[20:40] <zul> ill be doing a bzr branch for libvirt
[20:40] <skaet_> help please,   could someone look at: https://launchpad.net/bugs/720865?
[20:42] <skaet_> zul, kirkland, Daviey,  can one of you help?   ^^ Need to figure out the impact of this on the release.
[20:42] <zul> jjohansen: ^^^
[20:43] <zul> kirkland: ^^^
[20:44]  * Daviey reads
[20:44] <zul> skaet_: you might want to get the kernel team to look at it
[20:45] <skaet_> zul,  thanks.   will do.
[20:46] <Daviey> skaet_, agreed
[20:46] <Daviey> at a push, it could be foundations related.
[20:46] <skaet_> Daviey, ok, have started posting in the ubuntu-kernel channel...  ;)   will move on to foundations if necessary :P
[20:47] <skaet_> thanks zul, Daviey :)
[20:47] <Daviey> :)
[20:55] <kirkland> skaet_: zul: i can try to reproduce it here
[21:09] <jsebean> hi
[21:09] <jsebean> does anybody know where to start to find out why my hdd used space is climbing about 10KB every 10 seconds, with no active users online?
[21:11] <EvilPhoenix> system logging?
[21:11] <jsebean> i narrowed it down to apache
[21:11] <EvilPhoenix> oh well then its apache
[21:11] <EvilPhoenix> because apache is a memory hog
[21:11] <lynxman> kirkland: pong
[21:11] <jsebean> when i disable apache the HDD space climb stops
[21:12] <EvilPhoenix> jsebean:  yeah, i have a similar issue with apache
[21:12] <kirkland> lynxman: was just going to point you to http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2011/02/mcollective-now-in-ubuntu.html
[21:12] <jsebean> its not climbing on ram, just my hdd space
[21:12] <kirkland> lynxman: and mention that 1.0.1 landed
[21:12] <lynxman> kirkland: oooh nice
[21:12] <EvilPhoenix> 'cept i have about 3TB of data in a RAID0 config, so :P
[21:12] <kirkland> lynxman: also, we need about ~5-6 manpages for the binaries in there, if you ever feel so inclined ;-)
[21:12] <EvilPhoenix> jsebean:  you could try a different httpd
[21:12] <jsebean> is taking 10KB of HDD space every 10 seconds
[21:12] <EvilPhoenix> <EvilPhoenix> jsebean:  you could try a different httpd
[21:12] <jsebean> how do i disable apache logging?
[21:12] <lynxman> kirkland: I wouldn't mind doing that... btw I need sponsorship for the mcollective-plugin packages :)
[21:13] <EvilPhoenix> jsebean:  you need logging for httpds, you know.
[21:13] <kirkland> lynxman: sure ... where is the request?
[21:13] <EvilPhoenix> jsebean:  i dont advise disabling logging
[21:13] <kirkland> lynxman: oh, the cloud-init thing?
[21:13] <jsebean> yes, but just tempoarly
[21:13] <kirkland> lynxman: smoser is going to do that one
[21:13] <EvilPhoenix> jsebean:  let me rephrase: I dont advise disabling logging even if it IS temporarily
[21:13] <lynxman> kirkland: no request yet, I have the package ready but as said, need some sponsoring, was thinking that maybe zul or you would want it
[21:13] <lynxman> kirkland: the cloud-init stuff is an addendum as well
[21:14] <kirkland> lynxman: sure
[21:14] <kirkland> lynxman: email it our way, or just put it on the ubuntu-server@ mailing list
[21:14] <smoser> for cloud-init i'm waiting on lynxman to give me a config snippet for cloud-config
[21:14] <smoser> (that would be good to have ... )
[21:14] <lynxman> smoser: which I'll do tonight :)
[21:14] <jsebean> will another httpd work with my htaccess files?
[21:14] <lynxman> kirkland: will do! thank you :)
[21:15] <jsebean> i turned off apache, but need some web server
[21:15] <jsebean> the hdd climb has now stopped
[21:15] <lynxman> kirkland: mcollective without the plugin collection is useful, albeit limited
[21:15] <lynxman> kirkland: the plugins give it a lot of juice
[21:15] <kirkland> lynxman: sure
[21:15] <jsebean> so why would it be climbing in the first place?
[21:16] <kirkland> skaet_: i just ran that test in a VM with no trouble
[21:16] <kirkland> skaet_:         kvm -m 1024 -smp 4 -cdrom /local/virt/iso/lucid-server-i386.iso -drive file=/home/kirkland/.cache/testdrive/img/testdrive-disk-ciHH42.img,if=virtio,cache=writeback,index=0,boot=on -usb -usbdevice tablet -net nic,model=virtio -net user -soundhw es1370 -vga cirrus
[21:16] <skaet_> kirkland, thanks!    Can you let them know in the #ubuntu-testing channel as well?
[21:20] <guntbert> jsebean: hav you already found out what file is being written to?
[21:21] <jsebean> thats what im trying to find
[21:21] <jsebean> ive narrowed it down to be in the /var folder
[21:21] <jsebean> but not in the www
[21:21] <kirkland> skaet_: done
[21:21] <jsebean> so it probably is a log file?
[21:22] <jsebean> the ever growing file is a file in /var/log .... now to find out why and what file
[21:23] <guntbert> jsebean: it will be definitely in /var/log/apache2
[21:23] <jsebean> yes
[21:23] <hallyn> kirkland: I used -m 512 and reproduced it
[21:23] <hallyn> skaet_: ^
[21:23] <kirkland> hallyn: oh, really ...
[21:24] <kirkland> hallyn: skaet_: well, i think we advertise 384M as the memory requirement
[21:24] <kirkland> hallyn: skaet_: so if we're failing with 512, that's certainly suboptimal
[21:24] <guntbert> jsebean: so ls -l /var/log/apache2    should give a clue
[21:24] <hallyn> kirkland: let me re-test with 1024 to make sure that's it
[21:24] <kirkland> hallyn: k
[21:24] <kirkland> hallyn: it's a nice, quick test
[21:24] <jsebean> thanks
[21:25] <kirkland> hallyn: btw, that preseed + instruction is the basis for the kvm-autotest stepfile, btw
[21:25] <kirkland> hallyn: it should be enhanced to skip past the language selection, too
[21:25] <jsebean> its my other_vhosts_access log
[21:25] <kirkland> hallyn: that's a trivial 3 lines
[21:25] <jsebean> the log gets written to every 2 seconds! why?
[21:26] <jsebean> well im glad i know what it was :D
[21:26] <hallyn> kirkland: so seriously, the preseeds have to script the answers for questions in order?
[21:26] <kirkland> hallyn: no, order doesn't really matter
[21:27] <kirkland> hallyn: it just has to answer questions
[21:27] <kirkland> hallyn: which debconf picks up and overloads its internal database with key/value pairs
[21:27] <guntbert> jsebean: look at the config - somewhere you will have told apache to log a lot
[21:27] <hallyn> kirkland: i was wrong
[21:27] <hallyn> kirkland: well, sort of
[21:27] <hallyn> when i killed kvm and restarted, it booted
[21:28] <hallyn> weird
[21:34]  * hallyn switches to a preseed using his mirror...
[21:34] <hallyn> i know, i know, i should intercept dns...
[21:51] <jsebean> got the issue fixed
[21:51] <guntbert> jsebean: what was the reason?
[21:51] <patdk-wk> issue? we have issues?
[21:52] <jsebean> i had about 3 chat users online. Chat refreshes every 2 seconds. It was logging every refresh (connection 200)
[21:52] <jsebean> basically every hit on the site was being logged
[21:52] <patdk-wk> that is what is suppost to happen :)
[21:52] <jsebean> and with a fair amount of users on my forum and chat the log was growing fast
[21:52]  * patdk-wk notes log rotation and compress :)
[21:53] <patdk-wk> that stuff compresses *great*
[22:05]  * RoyK notes that zfs yet hasn't come to linux
[22:06] <Frenk> Hello. I have Spamassasin & Postfix installed. How do I see how spamassasin is hoocked into postfix?
[22:15] <raubvogel> Frenk, it depends
[22:15] <raubvogel> One way is to use amavis as the middleman
[22:15] <raubvogel> another is to use  mailscanner
[22:15] <raubvogel> I've done both
[22:15] <raubvogel> and the third is to connect to postfix directly
[22:16] <Frenk> raubvogel: no I dont have amavis/mailscanner. I just installed spamassasin
[22:17] <raubvogel> This might give you ideas: http://www.debuntu.org/postfix-and-pamassassin-how-to-filter-spam
[22:18] <raubvogel> See part 2, "3. Make Postfix call Spamassassin" to see how they talk to each other
[22:19] <Frenk> raubvogel: thx
[22:39] <Frenk> raubvogel: Using Postfix before-queue Milter support or After-Queue Content Filter for amavis?
[22:40] <raubvogel> I want to say before. Check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixAmavisNew
[22:41] <raubvogel> Ok, I am wrong
[22:41] <raubvogel> It is after
[22:41] <raubvogel> http://www.postfix.org/FILTER_README.html
[22:42] <raubvogel> (I think ;) )
[22:43] <ivoks> SpamapS: i need your help :)
[22:50] <ivoks> SpamapS: nah, ignore me
[23:13] <ZacLnxNewb> hello
[23:13] <ZacLnxNewb> does anyone know where this would be located on my server?
[23:13] <ZacLnxNewb> "~/.config/deluge/ " ???
[23:15] <ZacLnxNewb> and does anyone know how I can force deluge onto a port below 1024?
[23:16] <_1094kms> ZacLnxNewb: ~ stands for your home directory, e.G. /home/username/.config/deluge/
[23:17] <ZacLnxNewb> _1094kms:  I have a non standard home directory, and deluge seems to go awal when I try to change it's port
[23:19] <_1094kms> ZacLnxNewb: you run it in client/server mode?
[23:21] <_1094kms> maybe try a symlink to the standard home location. Otherwise I'd say it's more a deluge specific question
[23:23] <ZacLnxNewb> _1094kms:  I have it installed as deluge-server with a deluge-webui
[23:23] <ZacLnxNewb> hm
[23:24] <ZacLnxNewb> _1094kms:  do you know how I can port forward so when I do domain.com:902 it accesses 8112?
[23:25] <_1094kms> that sounds like NAT
[23:27] <ZacLnxNewb> _1094kms:  I can't even find the settings, config file of deluge
[23:27] <ZacLnxNewb> _1094kms:  it's not in it's ~/.config default directory
[23:28] <ZacLnxNewb> not in  /root/home/zachary/.config/deluge/
[23:28] <ZacLnxNewb> and not in root/storage/home/zachary/
[23:30] <_1094kms> have you tried starting it with logging enabled? maybe it will tell you where to look
[23:30] <ZacLnxNewb> _1094kms:  I've looked in the logs, no indication
[23:31] <_1094kms> http://dev.deluge-torrent.org/wiki/Faq#HowdoIstartthedaemonwithloggingenabled
[23:32] <_1094kms> there is a debug option, should be more verbose.
[23:32] <RoyK> what dedup?
[23:35] <ZacLnxNewb> [ -r /etc/default/$PKGNAME ] && . /etc/default/$PKGNAME
[23:37] <ZacLnxNewb> RoyK:  I'm having trouble with deluge, first I can't find it's configuration file at all, it's default location is supposed to be "~/.config/deluge/"
[23:38] <ZacLnxNewb> _1094kms:  RoyK  I did some tinkering around
[23:39] <ZacLnxNewb> RoyK: _1094kms    " deluge-webui --help "  "sudo deluge-webui --port=902"  that seems to have worked
[23:40] <_1094kms> ZacLnxNewb: you could also try to generate a config file with the GTK Interface and copy the config file to the server.  Maybe the webgui is limited in it's abilities.
[23:41] <ZacLnxNewb> RoyK:  _1094kms  nevermind, still having issues.  doing that got the webui port to what I wanted, and I can access the webui now, but it seems that the  daemon isn't running now
[23:43] <ZacLnxNewb> RoyK:  you have any ideas?
[23:43] <ZacLnxNewb> _1094kms:  gtk interface?
[23:44] <_1094kms> the interface you run on your desktop. If I remember correctly you can start it two ways, as server and standalone.
[23:46] <ZacLnxNewb> _1094kms:  I don't use that interface
[23:46] <ZacLnxNewb> _1094kms:  In this case the webui is basically the ui
[23:46] <_1094kms> maybe you can install it on your ubuntu desktop and just use the file.
[23:46] <binaryhat> whats the best way to execute stress command? im doing stress --cpu 1 --vm 1
[23:47] <ZacLnxNewb> _1094kms:  I use Windows 7 to manage my server via putty
[23:52] <_1094kms> Then it's not an option unless you maybe install a quick ubuntu vm install in vbox or virtualmachine.
[23:52] <_1094kms> which is fun but sounds like a bit of overkill :-)
[23:54] <_1094kms> ZacLnxNewb: have you tried #deluge ? It seems well visited and I think they probabloy have more detailed knowledge for specific questions.
[23:56] <ZacLnxNewb> thanks, I will try them
[23:57] <Adman65> can you use ** with logrotate, example /apps/**/*.log ?
[23:59] <ZacLnxNewb> _1094kms:  on the other hand, no one's answering