| soreau | FunnyLookinHat: ezrafree: Do you guys actually live in CO? (if so, what part?) | 19:46 |
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| FunnyLookinHat | Heck yes I do soreau | 19:47 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Denver | 19:47 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Work in Boulder. | 19:47 |
| FunnyLookinHat | How about you? | 19:47 |
| soreau | Springs :) | 19:47 |
| FunnyLookinHat | I figured my whois would have given that away... | 19:47 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Ah nice. | 19:47 |
| FunnyLookinHat | So what's your story? | 19:47 |
| soreau | heh, I usually don't whois most people | 19:47 |
| FunnyLookinHat | I whois with a vengeance. | 19:48 |
| FunnyLookinHat | It makes me feel like a script kiddie. | 19:48 |
| soreau | lol | 19:48 |
| soreau | I'm wishing I could figure out how to go to school for CS. But I probably have enough linux under my belt to make a great software tester | 19:48 |
| soreau | I just can't get my foot in the door without a degree or anything tangible | 19:49 |
| soreau | FunnyLookinHat: Knowing you from irc and (now) that you work in Boulder, I'm willing to guess you do something with computers for a living ;) | 19:50 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Ah yeah - degrees are really important for the resume right now... | 19:50 |
| FunnyLookinHat | But | 19:50 |
| FunnyLookinHat | If you know people you can get a foot in the door. | 19:50 |
| soreau | Yea, true | 19:50 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Yeah - I'm a fancied-up programmer. | 19:50 |
| soreau | That's my biggest problem is not knowing folks. I don't really care much for people in general :P | 19:51 |
| soreau | FunnyLookinHat: That's cool, what do you develop mostly? | 19:51 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Heh | 19:52 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Hmm | 19:52 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Well I do everything from PHP/MySQL/Etc. to Android/iPhone/Java | 19:52 |
| soreau | oh wow | 19:52 |
| FunnyLookinHat | I don't claim to be an expert in any of those - but I can get by well enough. :) | 19:53 |
| soreau | For iPhone/Android, do you run the OS in a VM or what? | 19:53 |
| soreau | or do you use a real phone to test (or both) | 19:53 |
| FunnyLookinHat | I do all of my Android testing on a real device - for iPhone I have to use a mac, and I test on a ghetto 2G and the simulators. | 19:53 |
| FunnyLookinHat | I avoid the Android VM as much as possible - it's awful. | 19:53 |
| soreau | ah ok | 19:55 |
| FunnyLookinHat | So what are you interests? Programming? Linux admin? | 19:55 |
| FunnyLookinHat | WoW? | 19:55 |
| FunnyLookinHat | ;) | 19:55 |
| soreau | Not WoW. | 19:55 |
| soreau | :) | 19:55 |
| soreau | I was just curious because I've never dabbled in any embedded OS app dev before | 19:55 |
| FunnyLookinHat | <-- Recently free of the clutches of WoW. | 19:55 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Ah ok | 19:55 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Yeah it's fun - | 19:55 |
| soreau | But yea I'm into programming and fixing things.. handy with a soldering iron | 19:56 |
| soreau | Big linux head - enjoy fixing drivers where I can and filing bugs when I can't | 19:57 |
| soreau | I spent a couple years as a hobby building a circuit interface for N64 controllers, 4 of them, the entire board fits in an N64 shell and plugs into the parport. | 19:58 |
| soreau | Kinda what turned me on to linux is the fact that I was able to actually fix the timing in the driver and go on to implement rumble in the gamecon driver | 19:59 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Nice! | 19:59 |
| FunnyLookinHat | That's so awesome | 19:59 |
| FunnyLookinHat | I've never done anything that low-level... well minus soldering all sorts of crap onto my old TI-85 calculator. | 19:59 |
| soreau | Yea, I'm pretty proud of that accomplishment even though it took for-freaking-ever and I had a lot of help from vojtech and other LK input subsystem devs :) | 20:00 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Hey - that's the best way to learn - from others... no harm in that. | 20:00 |
| FunnyLookinHat | I actively keep an IRC channel open for any language I'm currently working in. :) | 20:00 |
| soreau | Oh no doubt | 20:00 |
| soreau | So I did a lot on the compiz project too | 20:01 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Oh cool | 20:01 |
| FunnyLookinHat | So you know a decent amount of C ? | 20:01 |
| soreau | But now, I'm moving on to learn the monotony that is webpage devel stuff to try and build my own site | 20:01 |
| soreau | Enough C/C++ to scrap by :) | 20:01 |
| soreau | scrape* | 20:02 |
| FunnyLookinHat | :) | 20:03 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Web devel... | 20:03 |
| FunnyLookinHat | It ruins my life. :) | 20:03 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Well that and IE. | 20:03 |
| soreau | whatever you wanna call it | 20:03 |
| soreau | Yes, I now know that IE is CRAP | 20:03 |
| soreau | Even more than I knew previously | 20:03 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Hah | 20:04 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Hey you should try to make it up to Denver for our next release party | 20:05 |
| FunnyLookinHat | for 11.04 | 20:05 |
| FunnyLookinHat | It's crazy to think Ubuntu is at 11.04 - I started with 6 something I think... | 20:05 |
| soreau | Hey, you guys host a release party? (every six months) | 20:05 |
| soreau | ? | 20:05 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Heck yes. | 20:05 |
| soreau | This last time was at a bar or something, wasn't it? | 20:06 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Sort of - we met above a pub in this big meeting room with couches, etc. | 20:06 |
| soreau | oh cool | 20:06 |
| soreau | Yea, I want to do that some time | 20:06 |
| soreau | Hell I wish UDS would come to denver one year ;) | 20:06 |
| FunnyLookinHat | !!! | 20:07 |
| FunnyLookinHat | That would be very cool :) | 20:07 |
| FunnyLookinHat | We have a few members that Attend UDS. | 20:07 |
| FunnyLookinHat | nealmcb_ and joey both do I believe. | 20:07 |
| joey | I do | 20:08 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Ah - he lives! | 20:08 |
| joey | all the time now vs sporadically | 20:08 |
| soreau | heh | 20:08 |
| soreau | I think SmSpillaz (main compiz dev now) works for cannonical and will be at UDS this year (in florida?) | 20:09 |
| soreau | Or did it already happen last month? | 20:09 |
| soreau | I don't keep track of these things | 20:09 |
| FunnyLookinHat | me neither - when it comes to Ubuntu I'm much more into being a user than a dev... | 20:09 |
| soreau | Yea really | 20:09 |
| FunnyLookinHat | I'm a dev all day - don't want to do any more at night. :) | 20:09 |
| soreau | If I want to develop, I'm on Arch or Gentoo :) | 20:10 |
| FunnyLookinHat | HAH | 20:10 |
| FunnyLookinHat | I used to compile... then ... it got old. | 20:10 |
| soreau | Ubuntu is me trying to act like a user hehe | 20:10 |
| soreau | By time I'm done with it, it's not really a ubuntu anymore :D | 20:10 |
| soreau | Yea, ubuntu 10.10 decided to nuke my gentoo partition when I told it to only use it for mounting during the installation | 20:11 |
| soreau | coulda been pebcak, not sure. But I had mixed feelings when I found out. Fortunately there wasn't too much important data on it | 20:12 |
| soreau | Thinking about giving fedora another go but *yawn* | 20:13 |
| soreau | Oh I started ubuntu at Hoary Hedgehog and still have the original cd's | 20:14 |
| soreau | 5.04 I think | 20:14 |
| soreau | FunnyLookinHat: So when's the next release party? | 20:15 |
| FunnyLookinHat | soreau, good question/. | 20:15 |
| soreau | :) | 20:15 |
| * FunnyLookinHat checks the release schedule. | 20:15 | |
| FunnyLookinHat | probably the weekend of the 29th of april | 20:16 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Last time we did a Sunday night - most people were able to make that... minus joey of course. | 20:16 |
| FunnyLookinHat | (!!!) | 20:16 |
| soreau | Do you know where yet or is this posted anywhere? | 20:17 |
| FunnyLookinHat | No we haven't officially planned it yet. | 20:17 |
| FunnyLookinHat | I | 20:17 |
| FunnyLookinHat | I'll probably start making calls and sending emails come the beginning of April. | 20:17 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Are you on our mailing list? | 20:17 |
| soreau | nope | 20:17 |
| FunnyLookinHat | You should be! | 20:18 |
| soreau | How many people usually show up anyway? | 20:18 |
| FunnyLookinHat | https://lists.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-us-co | 20:18 |
| FunnyLookinHat | We had over 30 last time. | 20:18 |
| soreau | oh, that's decent | 20:18 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Really great time - we had everything from "noobies" to veterans. | 20:19 |
| soreau | oh wow, dev-wanted ads? | 20:19 |
| * soreau signs up | 20:19 | |
| FunnyLookinHat | dev-wanted ads ? | 20:20 |
| soreau | On the ml, the most recent posting | 20:20 |
| soreau | FunnyLookinHat: Do they have a different meeting for cosprgs or do you know | 20:20 |
| soreau | I'm just kinda thinking anything that happens in the springs isn't going to have as cool of people as dnever ;) | 20:21 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Ah | 20:21 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Hahaha | 20:21 |
| FunnyLookinHat | We don't have any extra meetings in the springs - but we've been trying to get our monthly hacker-meetups going again | 20:21 |
| FunnyLookinHat | They were basically a chance to talk shop - etc. | 20:21 |
| soreau | oo, what're those about? | 20:22 |
| soreau | oh cool | 20:22 |
| FunnyLookinHat | yeah they were fun | 20:22 |
| * soreau likes to hax0r | 20:22 | |
| FunnyLookinHat | Kevin Fries - one of our members - hosts one in Broomfield and one in Wash park - once a month | 20:22 |
| FunnyLookinHat | But yeah - nothing for the springs yet :( | 20:22 |
| FunnyLookinHat | hah | 20:22 |
| FunnyLookinHat | j00 |337 h4x0r pwn4g3! | 20:23 |
| soreau | hehehe | 20:23 |
| FunnyLookinHat | soreau, hey since you're interested in getting drivers working and whatnot - why not contribute to this so my Optimus can work correctly on my T410? :) https://launchpad.net/~hybrid-graphics-linux | 20:26 |
| soreau | FunnyLookinHat: I don't get the purpose of a 'switchable gpu' | 20:31 |
| FunnyLookinHat | soreau, battery life + performance | 20:31 |
| soreau | Ah ok | 20:31 |
| FunnyLookinHat | But it does it on-the-fly w/o reboot (with correct ACPI/Driver/OS support) | 20:32 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Very cool stuff. | 20:32 |
| soreau | Well it looks like airlied's already involved with this so my guess is that good things will happen | 20:32 |
| soreau | The only thing I could really do is test if I had one | 20:32 |
| FunnyLookinHat | In the meantime I just run the nVidia chip full time on my laptop - I prefer performance over battery life. | 20:32 |
| soreau | sounds hariy though.. switching the gpu hardware and driver while X is running | 20:33 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Well nVidia optimus technology handles most of the difficult stuff. | 20:33 |
| soreau | huh | 20:33 |
| FunnyLookinHat | The problem is getting X to switch screens on the fly and flag the correct stuff for the Optimus system | 20:33 |
| soreau | but, by default I also have to say nVidia is uncooperative with FOSS and for that reason I don't like to promote them | 20:33 |
| FunnyLookinHat | They have a demo video of them hitting a switch, pulling the GPU off the computer, and the comp keeps running as if nothing happened | 20:34 |
| FunnyLookinHat | yeah. | 20:34 |
| FunnyLookinHat | It used to be different. | 20:34 |
| soreau | OTOH, they do have some things going like their cg-toolkit, CUDA and their multi-object drawing caps (forgot what it's called) | 20:34 |
| FunnyLookinHat | So weird. | 20:34 |
| soreau | I don't understand why they can't just make a quality gpu and actually get the power management stuff right | 20:35 |
| soreau | FunnyLookinHat: But yea, if you want more info about your optimus driver(s), ping airlied in #dri-devel or #nouveau | 20:36 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Heh - the holy crail of CPU design. | 20:36 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Cool I might just do that. | 20:36 |
| soreau | He has one of these machines (along with a whole lab of radeons and ghad knows what else) | 20:37 |
| soreau | I love the radeon devs that work for AMD, they're pretty good at what they do and extremely helpful to boot | 20:38 |
| soreau | I would install airlieds kernel for this optimus technology and test | 20:43 |
| FunnyLookinHat | I'll have to make sure I have everything necessary backed up first... this is my work machine. :) | 20:45 |
| soreau | Meh, the worst that could happen is it doesn't work and you have to revert to your old kernel | 20:47 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Well - I went through quite a bit of finnicking to get the GPU supported correctly... | 20:47 |
| soreau | Sounds like it's not all the way sorted yet :) | 20:48 |
| FunnyLookinHat | heh | 20:48 |
| soreau | Or if multi-boot is an option, setup a test partition | 20:48 |
| FunnyLookinHat | not for me at least :) | 20:48 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Yeah I dual boot already - I suppose I could partition gain. | 20:48 |
| FunnyLookinHat | *again | 20:48 |
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