[19:46] FunnyLookinHat: ezrafree: Do you guys actually live in CO? (if so, what part?) [19:47] Heck yes I do soreau [19:47] Denver [19:47] Work in Boulder. [19:47] How about you? [19:47] Springs :) [19:47] I figured my whois would have given that away... [19:47] Ah nice. [19:47] So what's your story? [19:47] heh, I usually don't whois most people [19:48] I whois with a vengeance. [19:48] It makes me feel like a script kiddie. [19:48] lol [19:48] I'm wishing I could figure out how to go to school for CS. But I probably have enough linux under my belt to make a great software tester [19:49] I just can't get my foot in the door without a degree or anything tangible [19:50] FunnyLookinHat: Knowing you from irc and (now) that you work in Boulder, I'm willing to guess you do something with computers for a living ;) [19:50] Ah yeah - degrees are really important for the resume right now... [19:50] But [19:50] If you know people you can get a foot in the door. [19:50] Yea, true [19:50] Yeah - I'm a fancied-up programmer. [19:51] That's my biggest problem is not knowing folks. I don't really care much for people in general :P [19:51] FunnyLookinHat: That's cool, what do you develop mostly? [19:52] Heh [19:52] Hmm [19:52] Well I do everything from PHP/MySQL/Etc. to Android/iPhone/Java [19:52] oh wow [19:53] I don't claim to be an expert in any of those - but I can get by well enough. :) [19:53] For iPhone/Android, do you run the OS in a VM or what? [19:53] or do you use a real phone to test (or both) [19:53] I do all of my Android testing on a real device - for iPhone I have to use a mac, and I test on a ghetto 2G and the simulators. [19:53] I avoid the Android VM as much as possible - it's awful. [19:55] ah ok [19:55] So what are you interests? Programming? Linux admin? [19:55] WoW? [19:55] ;) [19:55] Not WoW. [19:55] :) [19:55] I was just curious because I've never dabbled in any embedded OS app dev before [19:55] <-- Recently free of the clutches of WoW. [19:55] Ah ok [19:55] Yeah it's fun - [19:56] But yea I'm into programming and fixing things.. handy with a soldering iron [19:57] Big linux head - enjoy fixing drivers where I can and filing bugs when I can't [19:58] I spent a couple years as a hobby building a circuit interface for N64 controllers, 4 of them, the entire board fits in an N64 shell and plugs into the parport. [19:59] Kinda what turned me on to linux is the fact that I was able to actually fix the timing in the driver and go on to implement rumble in the gamecon driver [19:59] Nice! [19:59] That's so awesome [19:59] I've never done anything that low-level... well minus soldering all sorts of crap onto my old TI-85 calculator. [20:00] Yea, I'm pretty proud of that accomplishment even though it took for-freaking-ever and I had a lot of help from vojtech and other LK input subsystem devs :) [20:00] Hey - that's the best way to learn - from others... no harm in that. [20:00] I actively keep an IRC channel open for any language I'm currently working in. :) [20:00] Oh no doubt [20:01] So I did a lot on the compiz project too [20:01] Oh cool [20:01] So you know a decent amount of C ? [20:01] But now, I'm moving on to learn the monotony that is webpage devel stuff to try and build my own site [20:01] Enough C/C++ to scrap by :) [20:02] scrape* [20:03] :) [20:03] Web devel... [20:03] It ruins my life. :) [20:03] Well that and IE. [20:03] whatever you wanna call it [20:03] Yes, I now know that IE is CRAP [20:03] Even more than I knew previously [20:04] Hah [20:05] Hey you should try to make it up to Denver for our next release party [20:05] for 11.04 [20:05] It's crazy to think Ubuntu is at 11.04 - I started with 6 something I think... [20:05] Hey, you guys host a release party? (every six months) [20:05] ? [20:05] Heck yes. [20:06] This last time was at a bar or something, wasn't it? [20:06] Sort of - we met above a pub in this big meeting room with couches, etc. [20:06] oh cool [20:06] Yea, I want to do that some time [20:06] Hell I wish UDS would come to denver one year ;) [20:07] !!! [20:07] That would be very cool :) [20:07] We have a few members that Attend UDS. [20:07] nealmcb_ and joey both do I believe. [20:08] I do [20:08] Ah - he lives! [20:08] all the time now vs sporadically [20:08] heh [20:09] I think SmSpillaz (main compiz dev now) works for cannonical and will be at UDS this year (in florida?) [20:09] Or did it already happen last month? [20:09] I don't keep track of these things [20:09] me neither - when it comes to Ubuntu I'm much more into being a user than a dev... [20:09] Yea really [20:09] I'm a dev all day - don't want to do any more at night. :) [20:10] If I want to develop, I'm on Arch or Gentoo :) [20:10] HAH [20:10] I used to compile... then ... it got old. [20:10] Ubuntu is me trying to act like a user hehe [20:10] By time I'm done with it, it's not really a ubuntu anymore :D [20:11] Yea, ubuntu 10.10 decided to nuke my gentoo partition when I told it to only use it for mounting during the installation [20:12] coulda been pebcak, not sure. But I had mixed feelings when I found out. Fortunately there wasn't too much important data on it [20:13] Thinking about giving fedora another go but *yawn* [20:14] Oh I started ubuntu at Hoary Hedgehog and still have the original cd's [20:14] 5.04 I think [20:15] FunnyLookinHat: So when's the next release party? [20:15] soreau, good question/. [20:15] :) [20:15] * FunnyLookinHat checks the release schedule. [20:16] probably the weekend of the 29th of april [20:16] Last time we did a Sunday night - most people were able to make that... minus joey of course. [20:16] (!!!) [20:17] Do you know where yet or is this posted anywhere? [20:17] No we haven't officially planned it yet. [20:17] I [20:17] I'll probably start making calls and sending emails come the beginning of April. [20:17] Are you on our mailing list? [20:17] nope [20:18] You should be! [20:18] How many people usually show up anyway? [20:18] https://lists.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-us-co [20:18] We had over 30 last time. [20:18] oh, that's decent [20:19] Really great time - we had everything from "noobies" to veterans. [20:19] oh wow, dev-wanted ads? [20:19] * soreau signs up [20:20] dev-wanted ads ? [20:20] On the ml, the most recent posting [20:20] FunnyLookinHat: Do they have a different meeting for cosprgs or do you know [20:21] I'm just kinda thinking anything that happens in the springs isn't going to have as cool of people as dnever ;) [20:21] Ah [20:21] Hahaha [20:21] We don't have any extra meetings in the springs - but we've been trying to get our monthly hacker-meetups going again [20:21] They were basically a chance to talk shop - etc. [20:22] oo, what're those about? [20:22] oh cool [20:22] yeah they were fun [20:22] * soreau likes to hax0r [20:22] Kevin Fries - one of our members - hosts one in Broomfield and one in Wash park - once a month [20:22] But yeah - nothing for the springs yet :( [20:22] hah [20:23] j00 |337 h4x0r pwn4g3! [20:23] hehehe [20:26] soreau, hey since you're interested in getting drivers working and whatnot - why not contribute to this so my Optimus can work correctly on my T410? :) https://launchpad.net/~hybrid-graphics-linux [20:31] FunnyLookinHat: I don't get the purpose of a 'switchable gpu' [20:31] soreau, battery life + performance [20:31] Ah ok [20:32] But it does it on-the-fly w/o reboot (with correct ACPI/Driver/OS support) [20:32] Very cool stuff. [20:32] Well it looks like airlied's already involved with this so my guess is that good things will happen [20:32] The only thing I could really do is test if I had one [20:32] In the meantime I just run the nVidia chip full time on my laptop - I prefer performance over battery life. [20:33] sounds hariy though.. switching the gpu hardware and driver while X is running [20:33] Well nVidia optimus technology handles most of the difficult stuff. [20:33] huh [20:33] The problem is getting X to switch screens on the fly and flag the correct stuff for the Optimus system [20:33] but, by default I also have to say nVidia is uncooperative with FOSS and for that reason I don't like to promote them [20:34] They have a demo video of them hitting a switch, pulling the GPU off the computer, and the comp keeps running as if nothing happened [20:34] yeah. [20:34] It used to be different. [20:34] OTOH, they do have some things going like their cg-toolkit, CUDA and their multi-object drawing caps (forgot what it's called) [20:34] So weird. [20:35] I don't understand why they can't just make a quality gpu and actually get the power management stuff right [20:36] FunnyLookinHat: But yea, if you want more info about your optimus driver(s), ping airlied in #dri-devel or #nouveau [20:36] Heh - the holy crail of CPU design. [20:36] Cool I might just do that. [20:37] He has one of these machines (along with a whole lab of radeons and ghad knows what else) [20:38] I love the radeon devs that work for AMD, they're pretty good at what they do and extremely helpful to boot [20:43] I would install airlieds kernel for this optimus technology and test [20:45] I'll have to make sure I have everything necessary backed up first... this is my work machine. :) [20:47] Meh, the worst that could happen is it doesn't work and you have to revert to your old kernel [20:47] Well - I went through quite a bit of finnicking to get the GPU supported correctly... [20:48] Sounds like it's not all the way sorted yet :) [20:48] heh [20:48] Or if multi-boot is an option, setup a test partition [20:48] not for me at least :) [20:48] Yeah I dual boot already - I suppose I could partition gain. [20:48] *again