[05:13] <zambz> AnomOly,,, u here?
[10:18] <chrisg2x> hi everybody from France !
[10:20] <knome> hey
[10:21] <chrisg2x> :)
[10:22] <chrisg2x> can I have some help with a skilled one ?
[10:22] <knome> just ask, and somebody will most probably answer, if they know the answer
[10:24] <chrisg2x> I've tested a lot of way to launch this command at startup :
[10:25] <chrisg2x> xmodmap -e 'remove mod4 = Super_L'
[10:25] <chrisg2x> xmodmap -e 'add control = Super_L'
[10:25] <knome> in how early stage do you need it?
[10:25] <chrisg2x> I've tested an .xmodmap
[10:26] <chrisg2x> please let me explain ^^
[10:26] <knome> sure
[10:27] <chrisg2x> I'm tested with rc.local
[10:28] <chrisg2x> I've*
[10:28] <TheSheep> you need to put it in 'sessions->autostarted applications;'
[10:28] <TheSheep> it has to be started after you log in, as your user
[10:29] <TheSheep> running it as root before X even starts makes no sense
[10:32] <chrisg2x> I've tested with xinitrc just before "xfce4-session"
[10:33] <chrisg2x> and I've tested with .Xdefaults ! nothing works
[10:33] <TheSheep> chrisg2x: sessions and startup -> autostarted applications
[10:33] <chrisg2x> :)
[10:34] <chrisg2x> >knome, thanks for your help, what do you mean by early stage ? It's about runlevel ?
[10:34] <chrisg2x> >thsheep
[10:34] <chrisg2x> thank you to
[10:35] <chrisg2x> where is the "session" dir ?
[10:36] <TheSheep> chrisg2x: it's not a dir, it's in the 'settings' menu
[10:36] <knome> chrisg2x, see the applications menu -> settings
[10:36] <chrisg2x> ok
[10:36] <chrisg2x> I want to do it the command way !
[10:36] <chrisg2x> ^^
[10:37] <chrisg2x> >knome, thanks for your help, what do you mean by early stage ? It's about runlevel ?
[10:38] <knome> chrisg2x, i meant the same than TheSheep. as it seems you have to run it after you've logged in anyway, you should add it to the autostarted applications
[10:38] <chrisg2x> if it is the settings way it will run only for my session, I want it for everybody
[10:38] <TheSheep> chrisg2x: then add it to the session for everybody
[10:39] <TheSheep> chrisg2x: set it for yourself first, then copy the .desktop file from ~/.config/autostart to /etc/xdg/autostart
[10:40] <chrisg2x> I can't do this without the aspect of session ? I'm a developper so I don't trust it ^^
[10:40] <knome> err, developers created the session for this.
[10:40] <TheSheep> not if you want to use xmodmap
[10:41] <TheSheep> you can do similar things using other tools though
[10:41] <chrisg2x> whatever session you lauch, there are some services that are, right ?
[10:41] <TheSheep> probably even just with xkb cnfiguration
[10:41] <chrisg2x> services are like autostart
[10:41] <TheSheep> chrisg2x: they are configured in /etc/xdg/autostart
[10:41] <chrisg2x> but no session for the sys level ?
[10:42] <TheSheep> every user has their own instance of X running
[10:42] <TheSheep> so there is no common session
[10:42] <TheSheep> and can't be
[10:44] <chrisg2x> ok, so if I modify /etc/xdg/autostart it'll be for all different sessions not only mine ?
[10:46] <TheSheep> yes
[10:51] <chrisg2x> >knome: there are a lot of progs or services (tell it what you want) that launch at the very begining of the boot of your sys, like hum I don't know... CUPS ? and you're false because I've tried for exemple to put another command in /etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc : "/usr/bin/abiword" it works (so before the XFCE session) but no for my xmodmap command, It's my problem. :)
[10:52] <knome> chrisg2x, i was only guessing from what TheSheep said. i don't know Xmopmad well.
[10:52] <knome> *Xmodmap ...
[10:53] <chrisg2x> yes It's simply to see or config your keymap
[10:55] <chrisg2x> xmodmap -e 'remove mod4 = Super_L' =>mod=modifier, I remove the Super_L key from the keys that belongs to mod4 (for exemple shift is a modifier key)
[10:55] <chrisg2x> xmodmap -e 'add control = Super_L' => I put this key to the control modifier so that the Super_L key acts like the Control key
[10:56] <chrisg2x> but why it doesnt work !!!
[10:56] <knome> did you add the command in the autostarted applications?
[10:57] <chrisg2x> not yet
[10:57] <chrisg2x> I've a problem houston ^^
[10:58] <chrisg2x> in /etc/xdg/autostart I see "Applet Blueman" and "Gestionnaire Bluetooth"
[10:59] <xubuntu221> есть кто из рускоговорящих пользователей?
[11:00] <chrisg2x> but I don't understand the link with "home/mysession/.config/autostart/"
[11:00] <xubuntu221> who from russia?
[11:01] <chrisg2x> in my session autostart I see .desktop files : blueman.desktop ans bluetooth-applet.desktop
[11:01] <ablomen> !ru
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[11:02] <knome> chrisg2x, they both are something that show up in the autostarted applications menu. you can probably know if they are actually started or not by looking at the content of the files
[11:05] <chrisg2x> yes, I know It's a little silly question I do but something is strange
[11:06] <chrisg2x> ok I understand but It's not clear
[11:08] <chrisg2x> if there is a 'soft' in startup -> autostarted, which one is not checked, it will boot but will be hidden !
[11:40] <chrisg2x> in startup -> autostarted I can't remove a soft ???
[11:42] <knome> highlight the row and press the remove button under the list?
[11:42] <chrisg2x> the remove button is greyed !
[11:42] <knome> is it an item you added from the commandline?
[11:43] <knome> it is probably an item in /etc/xdg/autostart/
[11:45] <chrisg2x> I haven't touched this part of xubuntu with any command, I've just unchecked some and I thought that logically It won't boot but I've just seen that they are simply hidden
[11:46] <chrisg2x> isn't it a bug that I cant remove one of them in the panel ?
[11:47] <knome> you definitely should be able to remove a panel plugin from the session. but that doesn't mean you should be able to remove it from that autostarted list.
[11:48] <knome> try removing the item from the panel, and then saving session when you log out.
[11:49] <chrisg2x> "you definitely should be able to remove a panel plugin from the session" you mean I can't do it with the GUI but certainly with commands ?
[11:49] <knome> no.
[11:49] <knome> you should be able to do it from the gui. just untick the checkbox in that line.
[11:49] <knome> on the left hand side
[11:49] <knome> if that doesn't work, and it's a panel plugin, try removing the plugin from the panel (right click the plugin and select remove)
[11:50] <knome> and then save the session when logging out
[11:50] <chrisg2x> it's simply to hidden but not to remove from start
[11:50] <knome> which app is it about?
[11:52] <chrisg2x> my system is in french but I try to translate myself : settings / XFCE settings control center / session and boot / tab "autostart"
[11:56] <chrisg2x> we are right ?
[11:57] <knome> yup
[12:03] <chrisg2x> so it's not normal I can't remove one :-(
[12:03] <knome> do you want to remove the item from the list completely, or stop autostarting it?
[12:08] <chrisg2x> ok I think that I misunderstand : when you untik it doesn't boot at start ? like I see [Desktop Entry]
[12:08] <chrisg2x> Hidden=true in file:///home/ivoirieblanche/.config/autostart/bluetooth-applet.desktop or it runs in background at start ?
[12:09] <knome> when you untick, it shouldn't start at all
[12:09] <chrisg2x> ok
[12:09] <chrisg2x> thank you man
[12:09] <knome> no problem
[12:09] <chrisg2x> but It's odd the remove button and the sub menu remove are greyed
[12:10] <chrisg2x> ?
[12:11] <knome> no, if it's an item that is located in /etc/xdg/autostart/, since you aren't running the settings manager with root rights
[12:13] <chrisg2x> ok it's what I was thinking (I don't know if my english is good lol (conjugation
[12:17] <chrisg2x> see U later :)
[12:17] <knome> see you and have fun
[12:17] <chrisg2x> I've to goooooo
[12:17] <chrisg2x> ^^
[12:17] <chrisg2x> U 2
[12:30] <aladoinsano> Does anyone know how to turn off notification for a specific program in xfce. I installed Choqok (twitter client) and its notifications are really annoying
[12:31] <aladoinsano> and the app it self has no setting for disabling notifications
[12:31] <TheSheep> you can always uninstall it :)
[12:31] <aladoinsano> great tip! ;)
[12:32] <TheSheep> I know, I do that all the time
[12:32] <Sysi> it can be in kde systemsettings
[12:32] <TheSheep> kde?
[12:32] <Sysi> iirc Choqok is kde program, try alt+F2 "systemsettings"
[12:32] <aladoinsano> whereon earth do i find those, do they come along when i install a kde app?
[12:33] <aladoinsano> that didnt work
[12:35] <aladoinsano> maybe i can install the kde system settings? If so, would that mess something up? I generally do not want to install foreign stuff, but this titter client is one of the best i have tried
[12:38] <aladoinsano> ok, i did installet it and was able to remove the notification... Problem solved! Thanks for the hint
[12:45] <davidnamy> hola
[12:45] <davidnamy> No se si sera este el sitio adecuado
[12:45] <knome> !es | davidnamy
[12:46] <davidnamy> gracias
[17:43] <alienkid10> I'm installing Xubuntu 10.04 on an old Dell Dimension L433C when I shutdown then it just says system halted and doesn't power off (from live session) according to dmidecode ACPI,APM is supported how can i get it to power off automatically?
[17:44] <alienkid10> I'm using the logout thing in the applications menu
[17:44] <charlie-tca> try disabling thse in cmos, one at a time
[17:45] <alienkid10> if I can find them
[17:46] <alienkid10> not here
[17:47] <alienkid10> nothing about APM or ACPI in BIOS settings
[17:47] <alienkid10> charlie-tca: nothing
[17:48] <charlie-tca> what is under powermanagement in cmos?
[17:48] <alienkid10> there is no powermanagement option
[17:48] <alienkid10> nothing having to do with power
[17:49] <charlie-tca> you need to check all the options to see where it is then. every dell has an option for power off
[17:49] <alienkid10> main says BIOS VERSION: A02
[17:49] <alienkid10> from 1999
[17:49] <charlie-tca> It might be "let the os handle power" or suspend or hibernate or something
[17:50] <alienkid10> nothing
[17:51] <knome> it might be that there is no power management options in a bios from 1999
[17:51] <alienkid10> in "boot" there is on PME set to stay off on LAN set to power on
[17:51] <alienkid10> there is an update to a05 on the dell site
[17:51] <alienkid10> but it is an exe file
[17:52] <alienkid10> and needs to be uncompressed and put onto a DOS bootable floppy
[17:53] <alienkid10> I'd need to get permission from the owner of the computer before I did a BIOS update
[17:58] <alienkid10> how can I get a free DOS envirionment that can be floppy booted
[18:00] <charlie-tca> freedos
[18:01] <alienkid10> I'm on the site but which do I download?
[18:03] <alienkid10> charlie-tca: fdbasecd.iso?
[18:05] <alienkid10> I'll download that gtg
[18:43] <charlie-tca> Xubuntu community meeting in #ubuntu-meeting in 15 minutes. Everyone is invited to attend. Agenda is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings
[19:14] <mark76> Hey. Does anyone know of any apps in Linux for floorplans?
[19:15] <knome> mark76, browse some cad software
[19:15] <mark76> Who are you calling a cad? :p
[19:16] <knome> cad = computer-aided design
[19:16] <Sysi> linuxcads seem to be more about machine design
[19:16] <mark76> British humour is wasted on the gaijin
[19:16] <mark76> :(
[19:16] <Sysi> if you find anything about floorplanning, please let me know
[19:17] <knome> Sysi, i don't know why you couldn't adapt..
[19:18] <Sysi> knome: they are just so different, my dad said on windows autocad and solidworks etc. are pretty useless for him
[19:19] <knome> no idea about that software - i could ask my friend though about more on those..
[19:19] <mark76> Anyone into model railways?
[19:19] <Sysi> i could try browsing.. my dad wasn't so eager about software available for OSX either
[19:20] <mark76> There's a CAD program in Synaptic for designing the layout
[19:20] <Sysi> 2D?
[19:23] <Diego1> Hi I've got a problem with udev? fn keys, physical volume control and dvd-rw stop working after a while
[19:23] <Diego1> do you think it might be udev or is it something else?
[19:55] <Unit193> Would it easy to update the screenshot on the home page? (isn't it out of date?)
[19:56] <Sysi> seems to be from latest LTS
[19:59] <Unit193> My bad then... Last question! Can you put a mini comparison on the download page? (like:http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download#download-block )
[20:00] <Sysi> that's kubuntu, not xubuntu
[20:01] <Unit193> I know... I was asking if on the download page put what differs from LTS to newist (using kubuntu as an exampmle)
[20:01] <charlie-tca> I don't understand that question
[20:03] <charlie-tca> I see it now. We give links to both 10.04 and 10.10 mirrors, but never explain what the difference is on http://xubuntu.org/get
[20:03] <Sysi> (we also could advertise bittorrent more)
[20:04] <Unit193> Yeah, that's it
[20:04] <charlie-tca> We will work on that
[20:05] <Sysi> we could have screenshots of both too
[20:06] <charlie-tca> yes, we could. Thanks for bringing that up, Unit193
[20:06] <Unit193> It just helps a little in picking what one to use (or link right to:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/MaverickMeerkat/Final)
[20:07] <Unit193> Sorry for not being very clear
[20:07] <charlie-tca> It's okay. We will get the idea, even if we are a little slow sometimes ;-)
[20:18] <n2diy> I just upgraded my test box to Xubuntu 10.10, and everything went well, then I rsynced /home over to it, and now X won't start. X starts for a moment, and then returns me to the log in screen, ideas?
[20:19] <Sysi> log in to tty/text console and remove ~/.ICEauthority
[20:21] <n2diy> Sysi, roger that.
[20:25] <n2diy> Sysi, no change.
[20:26] <Sysi> other config files can cause that too propably..
[20:27] <n2diy> Sysi, I re-installed 10.10 and reformatted / but not /home, so I'm sure it is something in my home dir.
[20:28] <Sysi> you could remove entire ~/.config/
[20:28] <n2diy> Sysi, yea, why not!?
[20:29] <estupendo1> Hi
[20:29] <estupendo1> I've got a problem with my dvd-rw drive, where can i find some help?
[20:30] <charlie-tca> Please ask your question all in one line. All of us are volunteers and will attempt to answer if we know.
[20:30] <n2diy> Sysi, it worked!
[20:32] <estupendo1> My dvd recorder doesn't load any disks nor cd's or dvd's, this happens after an hour or so, when I first boot, it does work. what packages manage that?
[20:36] <estupendo1> I first experienced problems with blank dvd's wich wouldn't be recognized by burning tools
[20:37] <charlie-tca> what version of xubuntu?
[20:37] <estupendo1> 10.04
[20:38] <estupendo1> 64 bits
[21:54] <n2diy> ok, now my test box rebooted in the middle of doing updates, after a fresh install. now it freezes at the log in screen, and won't respond to the keyboard or mouse. Booting into recovery mode freezes too, am I screwed, and have to re-install?
[21:58] <charlie-tca> when it freezes, does the numlock and caps-lock lights work?
[22:00] <n2diy> charlie-tca, first thing I try when I suspect a lock up, nope. I do have an Alt CD, I'm running that now in Fix mode.
[22:00] <charlie-tca> yeah, sounds bad to me
[22:01] <charlie-tca> I did have one though, lost power in the middle of updating. I started it and killed it with the power switch about 20 times before it finally let me get to a TTY and run updates again
[22:05] <n2diy> charlie-tca, The alt disk didn't work. If I re-install and don't format anything, do you think that would work?
[22:05] <charlie-tca> It will not allow a reinstall without formatting or at least erasing /
[22:06] <charlie-tca> I say try it
[22:06] <charlie-tca> What can it hurt?
[22:06] <charlie-tca> This was a fresh install, right?
[22:07] <charlie-tca> You might be able to try using the live cd, mount / and run updates on the hard drive
[22:09] <n2diy> charlie-tca, Yes, on my test box. Good idea, I'm there now. How do I disable xscreensaver from the cli, besides killall xscreensaver? I've narrowed that down to the cause of reboots, but I can't disable it, because that causes a reboot trying to get to the settings!
[22:09] <charlie-tca> that's all you can do is killall
[22:10] <n2diy> charlie-tca, Could I put that in an autostart file, or, shudder, write a script to do it at boot?
[22:11] <Unit193> xscreensaver-command -exit
[22:11] <charlie-tca> will it need to be done after updating?
[22:11] <charlie-tca> It is already in autostart, so, maybe remove it from the startup file?
[22:11] <n2diy> charlie-tca, Good question, I don't know yet!
[22:12] <charlie-tca> If you get it to complete the updates, it might be fine
[22:12] <n2diy> charlie-tca, Ok, I'm live! I'm thinking I should run synaptic, and fix broken packages, as that is what I was doing when it rebooted?
[22:13] <charlie-tca> I don't know, I only do it from a terminal
[22:13] <n2diy> charlie-tca, apt-get ???
[22:13] <charlie-tca> mount the partition, sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:13] <charlie-tca> if it fails, sudo apt-get --configure -a
[22:14] <charlie-tca> I never tried from synaptic to fix things
[22:14] <n2diy> charlie-tca, sudo mount /dev/sda1?
[22:14] <charlie-tca> you have to create the mount point...
[22:15] <charlie-tca> sudo mkdir /mnt/sda1
[22:15] <charlie-tca> sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1
[22:15] <charlie-tca> cd /mnt/sda1
[22:16] <charlie-tca> at least, that is how I do it
[22:18] <charlie-tca> and if it still won't work, well, there is that reinstall
[22:19] <n2diy> charlie-tca, ok mkdir /mnt/sda1 worked, but trying to mount it gives me 'not found in fstab and mtab errors?
[22:19] <charlie-tca> sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1       won't mount it?
[22:19] <charlie-tca> Are you sure / is sda1?
[22:20] <n2diy> charlie-tca, no they won't and yes I'm sure, I wrote down the partition table when I created it.
[22:21] <charlie-tca> time to reinstall then
[22:21] <Unit193> charlie-tca: Use a partition editor to show where it is?
[22:22] <charlie-tca> can try, gparted should be there under System
[22:22] <lighta> !rar
[22:23] <n2diy> waiting for Gparted now.
[22:23] <lighta> what's archiver name again ?
[22:24] <n2diy> ok, gparted shows the partitions, all is well, just as I set them, boot flag set, etc...
[22:24] <lighta> maybe ark
[22:24] <lighta> !ark
[22:24] <lighta> ok nice=)
[22:25] <charlie-tca> lighta: xarchiver
[22:25] <n2diy> should gparted desplay mount points, i don't see those?
[22:25] <charlie-tca> n2diy: weird
[22:25] <charlie-tca> no, it won't have mount points, that's why we created on in /mnt/sda1
[22:26] <n2diy> ok, I'm reinstalling then, we tried.
[22:26] <charlie-tca> sorry
[22:26] <n2diy> hey, that's why it is a test box, and not my A box.
[22:27] <n2diy> this is fun!
[22:28]  * charlie-tca nods
[22:29] <charlie-tca> okay, time to go away now. Good luck
[22:31] <lighta> having error trying create archive with xarch, i'll try ark
[22:45] <chrisg2x> hi everybody !!!
[22:45] <chrisg2x> hello knome !
[22:49] <chrisg2x> zzzzzzzz
[22:49] <chrisg2x> wazuuuup
[22:52] <mark76> Wagwan?
[23:01] <chrisg2x> LOL
[23:01] <chrisg2x> wagazugu ?
[23:02] <chrisg2x> are you good in scripting in linux my friend ?
[23:03] <mark76> Nopw
[23:03] <mark76> Nope
[23:06] <chrisg2x> ok
[23:10] <chrisg2x> you're nevertheless welcome mark76
[23:10] <chrisg2x> ^^
[23:11] <chrisg2x> hey a little funny survey ?
[23:11] <chrisg2x> where are you all ?
[23:11] <chrisg2x> me France/Lyon
[23:12] <mark76> Leicester
[23:12] <mark76> Home of the mighty Foxes and Tigers :D
[23:12] <Graet|> perth western australia
[23:14] <chrisg2x> cool men or women !
[23:16] <chrisg2x> leicester tigers is rugby but foxes ?
[23:17] <Graet|> asl? lol
[23:17] <chrisg2x> Graet :)
[23:18] <chrisg2x> 27 / male / France ^^
[23:18] <Graet|> lool
[23:18] <Graet|> 48 m au :P
[23:18] <chrisg2x> ?
[23:18] <chrisg2x> lol
[23:19] <chrisg2x> you're the father
[23:19] <Graet|> well u asked where we were frmo, then gender, so ... lol
[23:19] <chrisg2x> the ancient of the tchat
[23:19] <chrisg2x> respect ;à
[23:19] <chrisg2x> :)
[23:19] <Graet|> ty lol
[23:19] <mark76> Foxes is the nickname for Leicester City FC
[23:20] <chrisg2x> ok
[23:20] <mark76> You've heard of the Tigers, eh? :D
[23:20] <chrisg2x> no Lol
[23:21] <mark76> :(
[23:21] <chrisg2x> I'm from Ivory Coast, and I don't care about football but playing
[23:21] <chrisg2x> lol
[23:21] <mark76> Oh right
[23:21] <mark76> How do you come to be in Perth?
[23:22] <chrisg2x> ohhhh It's a long story mannn (LOL
[23:22] <chrisg2x> ;-)
[23:22] <mark76> Do you speak French?
[23:22] <chrisg2x> the ancient is demanding
[23:23] <chrisg2x> c'est ma langue maternelle je la parle plutôt très bien
[23:23] <mark76> Nice :D
[23:23] <chrisg2x> yeah
[23:23] <mark76> I can't get my head around other languages
[23:23] <chrisg2x> lol
[23:23] <chrisg2x> I'm learning arab two but It's long
[23:24] <mark76> I've tried to learn French, but it's hard to remember all the words
[23:24] <bragr> Is it just me or does xubuntu take longer to install than ubuntu?
[23:24] <mark76> Shouldn't do
[23:24] <chrisg2x> I know french english spanish but arab language is the most beautiful & logical l've seen
[23:24] <mark76> What are you installing it on?
[23:25] <bragr> asus 1215n
[23:25] <mark76> You're a polyglot, chris
[23:25] <bragr> also had ubuntu installed on it
[23:25] <chrisg2x> lol
[23:25] <mark76> Okay, that is weird
[23:25] <bragr> seems to take xubuntu longer
[23:25] <chrisg2x> polysilly
[23:25] <chrisg2x> lol
[23:25] <mark76> A polyglot is someone who can speak/understand multiple languages
[23:26] <chrisg2x> bragr you should timing cause things are often psychological
[23:26] <chrisg2x> should do timing*
[23:27] <bragr> i don't think 1.25 hours is psychological
[23:27] <chrisg2x> LOL
[23:27] <chrisg2x> ok
[23:27] <chrisg2x> you tried with ubuntu ?
[23:27] <mark76> Maybe you're internet connection has slowed to a crawl
[23:28] <mark76> your
[23:28] <mark76> Drat
[23:28] <bragr> yeah, had ubuntu installed on it for 6months
[23:28] <bragr> runs fine once installed
[23:29] <chrisg2x> ok try the actual ubuntu to compare cause they are very similar though
[23:29] <mark76> He's gone
[23:29] <chrisg2x> bad boy lol
[23:32] <feyd> I desperately need some help with sessions and startup
[23:34] <mark76> Mmmm... Sessions and startup
[23:35] <chrisg2x> lol
[23:35] <chrisg2x> how do you know
[23:36] <feyd> it boots to a terminal login, but it worked fine last night, didn't do too many things today
[23:36] <feyd> i had a custom .xinit + .xsession in my home folder, though I never told GDM to use it, also I recompiled NVIDIA drivers earlier as well
[23:36] <mark76> You mean you can't boot into a Xubuntu session?
[23:37] <feyd> it's weird, it boots to a tty login type thing, GDM is started but doesnt show. If I recompile my NVIDIA drivers and restart GDM, it works as normal
[23:37] <estupendo> Hello, my dvd-rw drive no longer recognizes blank dvds, only blank cd's, also xubuntu doesn't automount audio cd's just data any hint about this would be appreciated
[23:38] <chrisg2x> hey fed I'm doing the same sort of things lol
[23:38] <chrisg2x> hi
[23:39] <feyd> estupendo: did you play with your auto-run / open settings?
[23:39] <feyd> chrisg2x: any ideas as to why it'
[23:39] <feyd> chrisg2x: s booting like this? I'm assuming it's related to updated drivers, but I just redid my xorg through nvidia's config thingy
[23:40] <feyd> chrisg2x: and my GDM hasn't changed to use my user-created xsession, so that shouldn't be affecting it - i deleted it to be sure and nothing changed
[23:41] <feyd> mark76: should I be looking at drivers, xorg, gdm, or my user sessions if you had to take a guess?
[23:41] <estupendo> estupendo: yes, i've set burn a cd or dvd when a blank disc is inserted to open xfburn
[23:42] <mark76> SOmetimes .Xsession is the problem
[23:42] <mark76> Try deleting it
[23:42] <feyd> mark76: did that, also I'm going to give opening GDM at login a start instead of logging in automatically, long shot but would rather rule it out
[23:43] <mark76> K
[23:43] <feyd> mark76: I find it absolutely bizarre that compiling nvidia drivers before restarting gdm fixes it though, that just loses me
[23:43] <mark76> I don't use Nvidia drivers
[23:43] <mark76> They keep giving me the wrong resolution
[23:44] <feyd> mark76: I'd use nouveau if i didn't get crazy artifacting randomly on my windows, and that would probably save me headaches
[23:44] <feyd> mark76: maybe I'll try ripping out all the drivers and installing from the repos again
[23:44] <feyd> mark76: thanks for helping me think
[23:45] <mark76> No problem
[23:46] <feyd> mark76: actually, while I have someone to talk to here, is it possible to display any folder on the desktop, or is that locked in?
[23:46] <feyd> right now any files in my home folder show up on there, but im wondering if i can change that
[23:46] <mark76> I've never tried it
[23:47] <mark76> But I should think so
[23:47] <feyd> any idea where to look?
[23:47] <mark76> What do you mean when you say that files in your home folder show up on your desktop?
[23:48] <feyd> any files that aren't hidden in my home folder appear on my desktop, just like it sounds
[23:49] <feyd> i deleted my desktop folder by accident and it did that by default
[23:49] <feyd> im kind of retarded
[23:50] <mark76> Odd
[23:50] <mark76> You could just make a new Desktop folder
[23:50] <feyd> I did that
[23:51] <feyd> i'll figure that out later, first things first
[23:51] <feyd> i may come back with a fiery vengeance, be ready
[23:51] <feyd> thanks again
[23:51] <mark76> I'll be in bed soon
[23:51] <mark76> It's getting late here
[23:51] <feyd> all good, I appreciated your input
[23:52] <mark76> YW
[23:53] <estupendo> thanks