| rbnswartz | DBO you around and not busy? | 00:17 |
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| === smspillaz|sleep is now known as smspillaz | ||
| didrocks | good morning | 07:17 |
| MacSlow | greetings everybody | 08:00 |
| RAOF | smspillaz: If I felt like porting compiz's compositor to XRandR 1.4 to fix the texture size limitations, how bad an idea do you think it would be? | 08:33 |
| RAOF | Note: no guarantee of actual 1.4 porting is being made here :) | 08:33 |
| didrocks | RAOF: stop doing like a commercial ad :) "it will make your life better… DISCLAIMER: no real proof has been made that… blablabla" | 08:37 |
| RAOF | All suggestions, express or implied, that work may or may not be done are explicitly disclaimed at this juncture. May contain traces of nuts. | 08:41 |
| didrocks | :) | 08:43 |
| didrocks | yeah, the "May contain traces of nuts", I really like this one, almost everywhere | 08:43 |
| MacSlow | hey RAOF | 08:46 |
| RAOF | MacSlow: Howdie howdie howdie. | 08:47 |
| MacSlow | didrocks, RAOF: when trying to pull an update (on my nvidia-machine using the binary blob) I should be save if I disable the removing of "nvidia-current" and don't pull updates for the xserver... right? | 08:48 |
| didrocks | MacSlow: apt-get upgrade should do that for you, doesn't it? | 08:48 |
| RAOF | MacSlow: Right. As long as nvidia-current is installed, the new X server won't be. | 08:49 |
| MacSlow | didrocks, using synaptic here | 08:49 |
| didrocks | MacSlow: hum, so yeah, disabling the removing of nvidia -current in it should do what you want | 08:49 |
| MacSlow | didrocks, wouldn't "apt-get upgrade" pull the new xserver and thus remove nvidia-current? | 08:49 |
| MacSlow | cool | 08:49 |
| didrocks | MacSlow: apt-get upgrade never deletes package | 08:50 |
| didrocks | apt-get *dist-*upgrade can propose removing packages :) | 08:50 |
| MacSlow | didrocks, ah ok | 08:50 |
| didrocks | MacSlow: so, as long as you apt-get upgrade, you're always safe | 08:50 |
| didrocks | the thing is that you can't have transition when removal of a package (renaming because of soname bump and such…) is on purpose | 08:51 |
| om26er | njpatel, this bug 705536 was fixed when your launcher-fixes branch was in progress (I tried it) but with the update it seems its back. | 09:18 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 705536 in Unity "Unity allows you to Quit itself" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/705536 | 09:18 |
| njpatel | om26er, urgh, thanks, I'll re-open and milestone for this week | 09:22 |
| njpatel | next week, event | 09:22 |
| njpatel | even | 09:22 |
| njpatel | okay, it's Friday | 09:22 |
| njpatel | om26er, yeah, I can confirm it here....my hack didn't even last for two days! :) | 09:23 |
| smspillaz | RAOF: not a bad idea at all, I was planning to do that anyways | 10:03 |
| smspillaz | RAOF: I will now feed you with documentation | 10:03 |
| RAOF | smspillaz: Oh, if you were going to do it anyway… :) In what sort of timeframe? | 10:03 |
| smspillaz | RAOF: somewhere in the distant future | 10:03 |
| RAOF | Ah. | 10:03 |
| smspillaz | RAOF: but if you've got time to do a simple one that would be great | 10:03 |
| RAOF | Ok, then. | 10:03 |
| RAOF | Maybe. | 10:03 |
| smspillaz | its just a matter of writing the backend | 10:04 |
| RAOF | It'd be a replacement for... opengl, right? | 10:04 |
| smspillaz | http://wiki.compiz.org/Development/zero-nine/CoreClasses/PaintHandler | 10:04 |
| smspillaz | yes | 10:04 |
| smspillaz | and | 10:04 |
| smspillaz | http://ktown.kde.org/~fredrik/composite_howto.html | 10:04 |
| smspillaz | RAOF: the only thing you'd need to do is implement the xrender backend in PaintHandler and then port the decor plugin to use xrender as well | 10:05 |
| RAOF | Ah. You're thinking of something different. | 10:06 |
| smspillaz | oh ? | 10:06 |
| smspillaz | oh | 10:06 |
| smspillaz | s/XRandR/XRender/ | 10:06 |
| RAOF | I wsa thinking s/XRender/XRandR/ :) | 10:06 |
| smspillaz | indeed | 10:06 |
| smspillaz | RAOF: I don't think that XRandR 1.4 will help with mts though | 10:07 |
| smspillaz | RAOF: we have multitexturing in core now, so if a tex size > mts we revert to the XGetImage copy-to-texture backend to copy the pixmap into multiple textures in a list which we draw with the same geometry | 10:07 |
| smspillaz | but XRender would be cool :) | 10:08 |
| RAOF | :) | 10:08 |
| smspillaz | RAOF: out of curiousity, what would XRandr 1.4 do for mts ? | 10:08 |
| RAOF | There's (optionally) no longer a single pixmap covering the whole display; it's now one-per-output. | 10:09 |
| RAOF | So you wouldn't need to split the root pixmap, basically. | 10:10 |
| RAOF | You'd still need multitexturing for when windows get bigger than mts, but that'd require the window to be bigger than a single output, which is an uncommon case :) | 10:10 |
| njpatel | rodrigo_, is this still valid? https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/706891 | 10:34 |
| rodrigo_ | njpatel, looking | 10:34 |
| rodrigo_ | njpatel, hmm, not sure, asking API | 10:35 |
| rodrigo_ | oh, he's not around | 10:35 |
| njpatel | rodrigo_, okay, I guess we'll have to wait :) | 10:41 |
| rodrigo_ | njpatel, I'll point him to the bug as soon as he shows up | 10:42 |
| njpatel | thank you | 10:42 |
| nerochiaro | njpatel: quick question about the emblem support in unity: what is the logic to decide where the emblem should appear ? | 11:02 |
| njpatel | nerochiaro, I'm not 100% certain, will need to ask DBO about that | 11:02 |
| nerochiaro | njpatel: DBO ? | 11:03 |
| njpatel | nerochiaro, jason smith | 11:06 |
| nerochiaro | njpatel: ah, ok. didn't know he had that other nick | 11:06 |
| njpatel | ah, sorry :) | 11:07 |
| njpatel | Here's me thinking he's famous ;) | 11:07 |
| Mark__T | njpatel: ping | 11:45 |
| njpatel | Mark__T, pong | 11:46 |
| Mark__T | Mark__T: are your vapi files for indicator work with latest releases? | 11:52 |
| Mark__T | I can't make generate_vapi generate one for me here | 11:53 |
| Mark__T | njpatel: http://dpaste.com/429590/ | 11:54 |
| njpatel | Mark__T, we don't really use indicator through vapi anymore so I haven't seen that for a while :/ | 11:55 |
| njpatel | Mark__T, looks like some of the -custom bits can be removed now maybe | 11:55 |
| Mark__T | njpatel: I was thinking of doing a clean rewrite of my xfce4-indicator-plugin using vala | 11:58 |
| njpatel | ahh | 11:59 |
| njpatel | Mark__T, did you pick up all the files in the vala directory? (-custom.vala, metadata etc)? | 12:00 |
| Mark__T | no, missed metadata ... | 12:00 |
| Mark__T | njpatel: thanks | 12:02 |
| Mark__T | next time I should use bzr :-D | 12:02 |
| njpatel | heh, yes! | 12:02 |
| njpatel | :) | 12:02 |
| njpatel | Mark__T, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~njpatel/libindicator/vala/files | 12:03 |
| njpatel | that's what I used to create the vapis | 12:03 |
| njpatel | it probably needs a little updating but hopefully should work | 12:03 |
| Mark__T | btw, any chance that vapi-generation moves into libindicator or vala? | 12:04 |
| njpatel | it would be good if libindicator did it manually yeah, but I don't think ted has spare cycles :( | 12:04 |
| Mark__T | k now let's see if I eventually really understand these whole indicator stuff | 12:05 |
| njpatel | heh | 12:05 |
| Mark__T | It was to much guessing and trying involved when I initially wrote that plugin | 12:06 |
| Mark__T | s/to/too | 12:06 |
| njpatel | Mark__T, is your plugin a host for indicators? | 12:07 |
| njpatel | i.e. is it indicator-applet for xfce? | 12:07 |
| Mark__T | njpatel: yes | 12:08 |
| njpatel | sweet | 12:09 |
| Mark__T | unfortunatly it makes the called app crash if I click on a notification entry | 12:10 |
| Mark__T | not sure why, same happens if I use the indicator-applet through a wrapper | 12:11 |
| Mark__T | (there is a plugin for xfce panel to use gnome applets) | 12:11 |
| njpatel | do you ahve a trace? | 12:14 |
| Mark__T | njpatel: need to run something in gdb, and call it ... | 12:31 |
| Mark__T | njpatel: getting debugsymbols for pidgin ... | 12:32 |
| Mark__T | njpatel: http://dpaste.com/429731/ that's all I get | 12:48 |
| njpatel | oh, I don't know much about pidgin, sorry:/ | 12:50 |
| Mark__T | claws-mail crashes too | 12:51 |
| === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch | ||
| === Artir_ is now known as Artir | ||
| cjohnston | I see that the notification area is coming back.. But its limited as to what can use it. Is there a way for apps like Dropbox to display that they are running as they did previously? | 13:41 |
| njpatel | cjohnston, Dropbox just needs updating to the new libindicator-application | 13:44 |
| cjohnston | njpatel: ok.. thanks.. | 13:46 |
| njpatel | cjohnston, the whitelist is kept in dconf if you want to amend it (at least for now it is) | 13:47 |
| cjohnston | oh.. ok.. great.. | 13:50 |
| === API is now known as Guest43074 | ||
| kenvandine | ronoc, i saw you had reverted the merge of TheMuso's branch because the libindicator changes hadn't landed yet | 14:31 |
| kenvandine | ronoc, libindicator with the a11y changes is uploaded, want to re-merge that and do a release? | 14:31 |
| ronoc | kenvandine, hey, will do hoping to merge in also the voip feature, when do you need it by, | 14:32 |
| ronoc | ? | 14:32 |
| kenvandine | anytime | 14:33 |
| kenvandine | voip feature? | 14:33 |
| ronoc | kenvandine, -> Voip Mic input feature to land in the sound menu -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundMenu#Microphone%20volume%20item (works: http://i.imgur.com/rUQWN.png) | 14:34 |
| kenvandine | oh... awesome! | 14:35 |
| njpatel | kenvandine, ! | 14:35 |
| kenvandine | hey njpatel | 14:35 |
| njpatel | kenvandine, I love indicator-xchat, but really need the nick-changing thing to be fixed :) | 14:35 |
| kenvandine | hehe | 14:36 |
| kenvandine | i haven't figured out how to do that :/ | 14:36 |
| njpatel | Could we do a a strstr or something to just fuzzy the search? | 14:36 |
| kenvandine | that might help sometimes | 14:36 |
| kenvandine | if your nick stays similar | 14:36 |
| === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow | ||
| njpatel | right, I mean that's the majority of cases for me, but I get that it's not perfect | 14:37 |
| kenvandine | i just wish xchat-gnome would just give me a signal on nick changes | 14:37 |
| kenvandine | which last time i looked, it doesn't | 14:37 |
| kenvandine | but... somehow the UI knows to change | 14:37 |
| njpatel | kenvandine, also, to get the count off the launcher, I need to switch away from the private conversation/channel or x-chat window | 14:37 |
| kenvandine | i guess i should look to see the the UI does to know | 14:37 |
| kenvandine | right | 14:38 |
| kenvandine | same as the indicator | 14:38 |
| njpatel | really? never noticed I guess :) | 14:38 |
| kenvandine | we don't update the indicator or count if the channel and window is focused | 14:38 |
| kenvandine | that is new :) | 14:38 |
| njpatel | aah | 14:38 |
| kenvandine | the window focus part | 14:38 |
| kenvandine | and focusing the window now signals changing the indicator and count as well | 14:38 |
| kenvandine | if the channel/pm is focused | 14:38 |
| kenvandine | njpatel, but since that is new... there might be bugs | 14:39 |
| kenvandine | ronoc, what is ubuntuone music in the menu for? | 14:39 |
| ronoc | kenvandine, their player slots into the menu nicely | 14:40 |
| kenvandine | ? | 14:40 |
| kenvandine | they have their own player? | 14:40 |
| ronoc | kenvandine, yeah first I heard of it was a few weeks back | 14:40 |
| * kenvandine wonders how he could have missed that! | 14:40 | |
| ronoc | kenvandine, for streaming from ubuntu one | 14:40 |
| ronoc | still in alpha | 14:41 |
| kenvandine | what's the package name? | 14:41 |
| ronoc | kenvandine, I was thrown a deb :) | 14:41 |
| kenvandine | ah | 14:41 |
| aruiz | tedg, hey hey | 14:51 |
| aruiz | :-) | 14:51 |
| tedg | aruiz, Howdy, loved your mail! | 14:56 |
| aruiz | tedg, n_n | 14:56 |
| tedg | aruiz, So yeah, let's make a release and start packaging it. | 14:57 |
| tedg | aruiz, We'll not seed it or anything like that, so most people won't get it right away. | 14:57 |
| aruiz | tedg, should I take care of the debian packaging myself? | 14:57 |
| tedg | aruiz, If you want to, that's fine. Otherwise we can ask the Ubuntu Desktop team. | 14:58 |
| aruiz | tedg, I think it'll be better if the desktop team takes care of it, my dpkg-fu is sub-standard, to say the least, you'll end up spending as much time fixing my stuff than packaging :-) | 14:59 |
| aruiz | tedg, btw, I don't know if you have noticed, but I'm using waf, would that be a problem? | 15:00 |
| tedg | aruiz, Makes sense tome :) | 15:00 |
| tedg | aruiz, No, that should be fine. You might get some bitching, but I'm sure there's packaging rules for it. | 15:01 |
| aruiz | oh well, coping with bitching is okay :-) | 15:01 |
| tedg | aruiz, Do you know how to upload tarballs in LP? | 15:02 |
| aruiz | tedg, actually, I'm going to fix the license headers before the release | 15:02 |
| * kenvandine grumbles about waf | 15:02 | |
| tedg | aruiz, Good idea. | 15:02 |
| * tedg tells kenvandine to be quiet or we'll call this lo-indicator ;) | 15:02 | |
| * kenvandine will hold that package hostage :) | 15:03 | |
| aruiz | tedg, I just had a look at the web form, seems relatively easy, any conventions on the changelog/release notes? | 15:03 |
| aruiz | are they actually mandatory? | 15:03 |
| aruiz | :-) | 15:03 |
| tedg | aruiz, No, not really. I'm pretty bad at filling them out. kenvandine would probably like them filled out more :) | 15:03 |
| aruiz | :-) | 15:03 |
| tedg | aruiz, We have a couple of automake rules to build the Changelog. Not sure how to put those in WAF, but you can try. | 15:04 |
| kenvandine | yeah... i got tired of bitching at tedg about that | 15:04 |
| aruiz | okay, I'll fix these headers and go ahead | 15:04 |
| kenvandine | :) | 15:04 |
| aruiz | kenvandine, oh well | 15:04 |
| aruiz | kenvandine, waf is awesome btw! | 15:04 |
| kenvandine | aruiz, i just some hint of what changes from version to version, specifically if it fixed known bugs :) | 15:04 |
| kenvandine | yeah... not that i don't like waf | 15:04 |
| aruiz | well, this is the first release | 15:04 |
| aruiz | kenvandine, does it not play well with debian packages? | 15:05 |
| kenvandine | it's just frustrating dealing with packages using different build systems | 15:05 |
| aruiz | gotcha | 15:05 |
| kenvandine | never done a debian package using waf | 15:05 |
| kenvandine | but it shouldn't be hard | 15:05 |
| kenvandine | i packaged some conary stuff back in the day with waf, which was easy | 15:05 |
| aruiz | well, the libreoffice extension build mechanism was quite a nightmare to decipher, having to cope with autofoo while trying to understand what's going on with that spagetthi Makefile purgatory wasn't really the best use of my time | 15:06 |
| kenvandine | and back when i hacked on packagekit we made an attempt to switch to waf | 15:06 |
| kenvandine | which didn't go so well | 15:06 |
| aruiz | well | 15:06 |
| aruiz | back then waf was quite unstable | 15:06 |
| aruiz | I actually convinced the maintainer to have a decent set of unit test and stop breaking trunk | 15:06 |
| aruiz | (yeah, trunk, they still use svn) | 15:06 |
| aruiz | (and yeah, he used to brake it several times a day) | 15:07 |
| kenvandine | nice | 15:08 |
| aruiz | kenvandine, if my stuff gives you any trouble let me know and I'll figure out how to make it easy for you | 15:08 |
| kenvandine | :) | 15:08 |
| kenvandine | awesome | 15:08 |
| jcastro | kamstrup: hate to sound whiny .... but any word on GI for libunity? | 15:08 |
| kenvandine | tedg, ^^ example of how to deal with desktop guys :) | 15:08 |
| jcastro | hi aruiz! | 15:08 |
| aruiz | hey jcastro | 15:08 |
| aruiz | how's it going? | 15:08 |
| jcastro | good good, glad to see you around | 15:08 |
| kenvandine | tedg, aruiz is scoring good points here... hint hint :) | 15:08 |
| tedg | kenvandine, aruiz will learn that if you give those desktop people an inch, they'll ask for a mile. He's just a n00b. | 15:09 |
| kenvandine | jcastro, he got LO menus working... | 15:09 |
| aruiz | kenvandine, give him a break X-) | 15:09 |
| kenvandine | ;-D | 15:09 |
| jcastro | wait what? | 15:09 |
| jcastro | screenshot | 15:09 |
| aruiz | jcastro, http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4524326/foo.gif | 15:09 |
| aruiz | screencast | 15:09 |
| aruiz | :P | 15:09 |
| jcastro | nice | 15:09 |
| jcastro | nice nice nice | 15:09 |
| kenvandine | aruiz, when you get a release, ping me and i'll start packaging | 15:09 |
| aruiz | kenvandine, will do | 15:09 |
| kenvandine | no hurry, i have a far bit to do today | 15:09 |
| * aruiz goes to fill those headers | 15:10 | |
| jcastro | aruiz: where's the code at? | 15:10 |
| kenvandine | but i would love to get that uploaded soon... :) | 15:10 |
| aruiz | jcastro, launchpad.net/lo-menubar | 15:10 |
| jcastro | ok thanks | 15:10 |
| jcastro | blogging this bad boy. :) | 15:10 |
| aruiz | jcastro, I was going to blog this! | 15:10 |
| aruiz | :P | 15:10 |
| jcastro | oh, well if you got it then rock and roll with it! | 15:11 |
| aruiz | well | 15:11 |
| jcastro | but hurry, this is great friday-candy | 15:11 |
| aruiz | I'm not in p.u.o | 15:11 |
| jcastro | I'll handle that | 15:11 |
| aruiz | so feel free to refer to it once I blog | 15:11 |
| jcastro | or I can just show the OMG guys this too | 15:11 |
| aruiz | well, it's not finished, loads of stuff to do | 15:11 |
| aruiz | but if that's fine, then sure | 15:12 |
| jcastro | right | 15:12 |
| * tedg thinks our new strategy for U1 will just to be to show dropbox links to OMG and make them go under from bandwidth charges | 15:12 | |
| aruiz | haha | 15:13 |
| aruiz | tedg, I recently created a U1 account | 15:13 |
| jcastro | aruiz: I think most people will just be happy that someone is working on it | 15:13 |
| aruiz | jcastro, :-) | 15:13 |
| tedg | kenvandine, Does Gwibber use SSL for Facebook? I knew you were working on it at some point, but I forgot the end of the story. | 15:14 |
| kenvandine | yes | 15:14 |
| tedg | Cool | 15:14 |
| kenvandine | but there is problems with ssl in pywebkitgtk | 15:15 |
| kenvandine | so in gwibber-accounts it uses ssl, but it doesn't actually validate the cert | 15:15 |
| kenvandine | however, all api calls do | 15:15 |
| === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley | ||
| tedg | Ah, okay. I'm guessing the GTK version of Gwibber is going to be N+1? | 15:16 |
| aruiz | tedg, btw, should I follow LGPLv3/MPL to comply with LO licensing? | 15:16 |
| tedg | aruiz, When I talked to dbarth about this we talked about LGPLv3, but not dual. So let's leave it there for now and talk to him when he gets back next week. I don't see any issue, but we should check that. | 15:17 |
| * tedg didn't think about dual at the time. | 15:17 | |
| aruiz | tedg, I'll go for LGPLv3 then | 15:17 |
| aruiz | this is an extension, so it should be fine | 15:18 |
| rodrigo_ | njpatel, ping | 15:19 |
| njpatel | rodrigo_, pong | 15:19 |
| rodrigo_ | njpatel, iirc, you told me once that the panel service would get coordinates info for the indicators from unity, right? | 15:19 |
| kamstrup | jcastro: hi - good news! I have it working on my own system. Lots of duct tape and spaghetti-wiring, but working :-) | 15:21 |
| njpatel | rodrigo_, yeah, just haven't had a chance to do that yet | 15:21 |
| njpatel | rodrigo_, you need it for a11y, right? | 15:21 |
| jcastro | kamstrup: woo! | 15:21 |
| kamstrup | jcastro: I'll be working with didrocks, next week I guess?, to land it | 15:21 |
| rodrigo_ | njpatel, yes, I do, so how were you planning to do it? I can do it as part of the branch I'm working on | 15:21 |
| njpatel | kamstrup, it's all duct-tape | 15:21 |
| njpatel | :) | 15:21 |
| rodrigo_ | since I really need it, to implement AtkComponent interface | 15:21 |
| kamstrup | jcastro: there's already a python sample in libunity trunk if I remembered to push it | 15:21 |
| rodrigo_ | njpatel, send the coordinates in the sync call? | 15:22 |
| kamstrup | njpatel: nice code name for the next libunity release :-) | 15:22 |
| didrocks | jcastro: kamstrup: yeah, next week :) | 15:22 |
| jcastro | woo! | 15:22 |
| jcastro | didrocks: how "extras.ubuntu.com"'-able do you think we can do places? | 15:23 |
| kamstrup | jcastro: i'm working a bit on cross lang docs as well and there is some progress - i'll have something to show next week prolly, but it wont be pretty... :-) | 15:23 |
| jcastro | didrocks: I'd like to try having people making tons of them but not worry about distro freezes, etc. | 15:23 |
| njpatel | rodrigo_, feel free to do it, it would just be sent after we deal with the Sync signal, basically a method on the service like "SyncGeometries", which, in the same order and using the same ids, sends back a struct like { char *entry_id, int x ,int y, int width, int height) | 15:23 |
| jcastro | kamstrup: maybe I can get you some help there | 15:23 |
| didrocks | jcastro: I think places can totallly be an extras.ubuntu.com entry | 15:24 |
| njpatel | rodrigo_, and we can send it when we have multi-monitor support, but for now just sending it after we refresh all the entries would work perfectly | 15:24 |
| jcastro | didrocks: woo! | 15:24 |
| didrocks | jcastro: but with the /opt policy… we need to work out something | 15:24 |
| didrocks | to detect places there | 15:24 |
| didrocks | not to hard, just we have to think about it | 15:24 |
| rodrigo_ | njpatel, ok, so assing that to me, if there's a bug | 15:24 |
| didrocks | (it's the same issue that I'm discussing for month on .desktop file, dbus service and such…) | 15:24 |
| njpatel | there isn't a bug, feel free to create one | 15:24 |
| kamstrup | didrocks, jcastro: yeah, with everything under /opt we need some magic for dbus activation to work no? | 15:24 |
| tedg | didrocks, Just distro patch it ;) | 15:25 |
| didrocks | kamstrup: dbus and places ;) | 15:25 |
| kamstrup | didrocks: from my pov places~=dbus | 15:25 |
| kamstrup | :-) | 15:25 |
| didrocks | tedg: ahah! I'll distro-patch my Quickly work and python-* perl foo that I made 3 months ago :) | 15:25 |
| didrocks | kamstrup: heh, that's true := | 15:25 |
| didrocks | jcastro: so in a nutshell, not a biggie, just have to discuss it, can be a post feature freeze discussion though | 15:26 |
| jcastro | well, if we want people making places we need someplace to put them, and I'd prefer pointing people towards extras than having every Place scattered in different PPAs, etc. | 15:26 |
| jcastro | didrocks: sounds good to me! | 15:26 |
| didrocks | jcastro: totally agree on the plan :) | 15:26 |
| jcastro | ok so post FF we talk "deploying places". | 15:27 |
| jcastro | high five team, woo | 15:27 |
| rodrigo_ | njpatel, what other stuff do you need the coordinates for? | 15:27 |
| didrocks | kamstrup: the thing is that it's not just "/opt", it's "/opt/extras.ubuntu.com/<app-name>-<version>/<here, standard Unix FHS> | 15:27 |
| * didrocks hugs jcastro, thanks for tracking this! | 15:27 | |
| kamstrup | didrocks: oh... | 15:27 |
| didrocks | kamstrup: hence the "not easy" :-) | 15:28 |
| kamstrup | didrocks: so they are confined to that dir, and that dir only? | 15:28 |
| njpatel | rodrigo_, to get rid of the code that sends back the pointer co-ords when a menu is open (for scrubbing, don't ask), so please cache the co-ords when you get them | 15:28 |
| didrocks | kamstrup: theorically yeah | 15:28 |
| rodrigo_ | njpatel, ok | 15:28 |
| didrocks | kamstrup: so we get the issue with all "well-known directories" like desktop file, dbus, mimetypes… | 15:28 |
| kamstrup | didrocks: eeeek! that's going to be "funny" for a certain definition of "funny" | 15:29 |
| didrocks | kamstrup: I'm waving this issue for some weeks already :-) | 15:29 |
| kamstrup | didrocks: understandably | 15:29 |
| didrocks | the idea is great, but we need to patch the apps before | 15:29 |
| kenvandine | rickspencer3, ping | 15:29 |
| didrocks | and the different caches generated and such | 15:29 |
| rodrigo_ | njpatel, https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/721322 | 15:30 |
| njpatel | thanks | 15:30 |
| rodrigo_ | njpatel, what milestone should I set it to? | 15:31 |
| njpatel | rodrigo_, will you be doing it for next week? | 15:31 |
| njpatel | rodrigo_, 3.4.6 if you are | 15:31 |
| rodrigo_ | njpatel, yes, next week | 15:31 |
| rodrigo_ | although can't seem to be able to set the milestone | 15:32 |
| njpatel | i'll do it in a bit | 15:32 |
| didrocks | jcastro: easy bitesize than need advertisement btw: bug #721121 | 15:34 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 721121 in humanity-icon-theme (Ubuntu) "Icon in Launcher should be home folder icon" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/721121 | 15:34 |
| jcastro | oh god yes, finally, ok on it | 15:35 |
| jcastro | cando_: easy karma ^ | 15:35 |
| cando_ | jcastro, uh cool! btw actually i can't hack unity...my compiz crashes...:( | 15:37 |
| jcastro | smspillaz: nice work. | 15:38 |
| jcastro | can you get a trace or anything? | 15:39 |
| jcastro | or is it just doomed for you? | 15:39 |
| cando_ | yeah, i could try!maybe i'm wrong but it's a common problem...i've read in this channel that somebody else has my same problem.. | 15:41 |
| bregma | njpatel, have you started using GEIS v1 for unity yet? | 15:53 |
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| smspillaz | jcastro: nice work on what ? | 16:05 |
| jcastro | I was just blaming cando_'s compiz problems on you, no worries | 16:05 |
| smspillaz | oh ok | 16:05 |
| smspillaz | cando_: what's the problem, you're speaking to the compiz maintainer | 16:06 |
| cando_ | smspillaz, compiz crashes... :)...i can pastebin my /var/crash/<compiz> if you want.. | 16:07 |
| smspillaz | cando_: that would be lovely | 16:07 |
| aruiz | jcastro, tedg, kenvandine Tarball rolled https://launchpad.net/lo-menubar | 16:08 |
| kenvandine | aruiz, thx | 16:08 |
| jcastro | woo | 16:09 |
| aruiz | note that this is bleeding edge, expect zombie unicorns puking greyscaled rainbows | 16:10 |
| * aruiz goes to blogpost | 16:10 | |
| cando_ | smspillaz, http://paste.ubuntu.com/568788/ | 16:10 |
| kenvandine | aruiz, what provides uno_sal | 16:11 |
| aruiz | kenvandine, oh, yeah, the build deps | 16:11 |
| aruiz | kenvandine, gimme a sec | 16:11 |
| kenvandine | thx | 16:12 |
| aruiz | kenvandine, you need gio-dev, libdbusmenu-dev, libstlport4.6-dev and libreoffice-dev | 16:14 |
| kenvandine | thx | 16:14 |
| aruiz | libglib*-dev that is | 16:14 |
| aruiz | kenvandine, you know what I mean :-) | 16:15 |
| kenvandine | yup | 16:15 |
| jcastro | DBO: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/718880 | 16:15 |
| jcastro | was there a merge request for this or ... ? | 16:15 |
| DBO | i didn't see one | 16:16 |
| jcastro | ok I just asked the guy | 16:17 |
| didrocks | jcastro: DBO: no, he did a brach | 16:17 |
| didrocks | I'll link to the merge request | 16:18 |
| didrocks | I approved it, waiting on some paperwork | 16:18 |
| jcastro | ta | 16:18 |
| cando_ | smspillaz, btw seems that last nux and last unity fail to build: http://paste.ubuntu.com/568792/ | 16:18 |
| jcastro | oh ok, did he do it under ubuntu/ or something? | 16:18 |
| didrocks | jcastro: no no, he just didn't link the branch, one sec | 16:18 |
| smspillaz | cando_: erm, right, it is late at night here, should have remembered that /var/crash is essentially just a core dump. Are you able to get a backtrace ? | 16:19 |
| cando_ | with gdb? | 16:20 |
| cando_ | ok | 16:20 |
| smspillaz | cheers | 16:20 |
| cando_ | trying | 16:20 |
| jcastro | didrocks: I tried to link it and I get some broken search box in launchpad that doesn't find his branch | 16:23 |
| didrocks | jcastro: I've done it, maybe a race? | 16:23 |
| jcastro | that's probably why he didn't link it | 16:23 |
| didrocks | jcastro: I guested | 16:24 |
| jcastro | ah, cheers | 16:24 |
| didrocks | I guess* and commented | 16:24 |
| didrocks | weird, when I type to quick and compiz is hanging the display, it looses keypress events (like my last sentence) | 16:24 |
| jcastro | nice, so there's a new contributor, now oliver needs to fix his up and that'll be 2. | 16:25 |
| jcastro | woo | 16:25 |
| didrocks | :) | 16:28 |
| aruiz | tedg, btw, I don't know if you've noticed that gvim doesn't export the menu data (though it hides its main menu) | 16:29 |
| cando_ | smspillaz, http://paste.ubuntu.com/568804/ | 16:34 |
| smspillaz | thx | 16:35 |
| smspillaz | cando_: seems to be a crash in the launcher | 16:37 |
| smspillaz | that's probably something for DBO to handle ... although he just left .. | 16:37 |
| cando_ | smspillaz, yeah sorry..i've just seen it too.. | 16:37 |
| cando_ | i thought it was compiz... | 16:37 |
| smspillaz | cando_: yeah, the process that crashes is compiz since that hosts the launcher | 16:37 |
| tedg | aruiz, Hmm, it does for me... | 16:38 |
| smspillaz | cando_: you said you were compiling unity right? and it crashes ? | 16:38 |
| tedg | Though, I get no shortcuts... which in a way makes sense. | 16:38 |
| aruiz | tedg, hmmm | 16:38 |
| cando_ | smspillaz, i can't build it....http://pastebin.com/NDNdaum0 | 16:39 |
| smspillaz | MacSlow: ^ | 16:39 |
| smspillaz | MacSlow: did something not get pushed ? | 16:39 |
| cando_ | smspillaz, anyway, thanks:) | 16:39 |
| smspillaz | cando_: try updating nux and unity | 16:40 |
| cando_ | nux it's updated and builds....unity it's updated and failed to build.... | 16:40 |
| smspillaz | try doing a make clean | 16:40 |
| cando_ | yeah | 16:40 |
| kenvandine | aruiz, ok, i got the lo-menubar installed | 16:41 |
| kenvandine | and i see it listed in the extension manager | 16:41 |
| kenvandine | oh... LO is blacklisted in appmenu isn't it? | 16:41 |
| cando_ | smspillaz, nope..same error...maybe i'm doing wrong with same env variables and unity doens't find last nux... | 16:42 |
| aruiz | kenvandine, uh? not that I'm aware of | 16:43 |
| kenvandine | oh, openoffice was black listed in indicator-appmenu | 16:43 |
| kenvandine | humm | 16:43 |
| kenvandine | not getting the appmenu menus | 16:43 |
| aruiz | eeks | 16:44 |
| smspillaz | DBO: does http://paste.ubuntu.com/568804/ look familiar to you? | 16:44 |
| aruiz | kenvandine, are you on that main application with no documents at all? | 16:44 |
| kenvandine | yes | 16:44 |
| aruiz | kenvandine, the one after the splash? | 16:44 |
| aruiz | hah | 16:44 |
| aruiz | it doesn't work for that window | 16:44 |
| kenvandine | :) | 16:44 |
| kenvandine | ok | 16:44 |
| aruiz | open a document | 16:44 |
| cando_ | smspillaz, i think i got it...my bad... | 16:45 |
| aruiz | kenvandine, for some reason that window doesn't fire the event I'm subscribed to | 16:45 |
| aruiz | kenvandine, if you open a document from the file browser or create a new one it should work fine | 16:45 |
| MacSlow | smspillaz, cando_: looking... | 16:46 |
| kenvandine | aruiz, no... crashing | 16:46 |
| MacSlow | smspillaz, cando_: that's not looking right... | 16:46 |
| kenvandine | creating a new document or opening an existing one crashes libreoffice | 16:46 |
| kenvandine | ** (soffice:10196): DEBUG: not present | 16:46 |
| kenvandine | ** (soffice:10196): DEBUG: /com/canonical/menu/94371910 | 16:46 |
| kenvandine | is all the output i get | 16:47 |
| cando_ | MacSlow, maybe i'm doing something wrong.. | 16:47 |
| kenvandine | aruiz, ^^ | 16:47 |
| aruiz | kenvandine, and it crashes? | 16:47 |
| kenvandine | yup | 16:47 |
| kenvandine | well, the window flickers for a second and goes away | 16:47 |
| aruiz | ooookay... | 16:47 |
| * aruiz has a look | 16:47 | |
| MacSlow | cando_, you're nux looks to be out of date | 16:47 |
| kenvandine | note this is running from the installed package | 16:47 |
| MacSlow | cando_, did you pull today? | 16:47 |
| kenvandine | aruiz, is there a way to get more debugging info? | 16:47 |
| * kenvandine knows nothing about libreoffice | 16:48 | |
| aruiz | kenvandine, are you in a 64bit machine by any chance? | 16:48 |
| kenvandine | yes | 16:48 |
| aruiz | mmm | 16:48 |
| aruiz | never actually tested it there | 16:48 |
| kenvandine | hehe | 16:48 |
| aruiz | okay | 16:48 |
| MacSlow | cando_, your nux should be at rev 222 or so | 16:48 |
| kenvandine | well i have a basic package created | 16:48 |
| kenvandine | need to clean it up a bit before uploading it anywhere | 16:48 |
| cando_ | MacSlow, yep....btw i'm trying again...just a moment... | 16:48 |
| aruiz | kenvandine, to debug, do gdb /usr/lib/libreoffice/program/soffice.bin | 16:49 |
| kenvandine | ok | 16:49 |
| MacSlow | cando_, rev 228 is current | 16:49 |
| aruiz | kenvandine, installing libreoffice-gdb might help | 16:49 |
| kenvandine | Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. | 16:50 |
| kenvandine | 0x00007fffecd85072 in g_atomic_int_exchange_and_add () | 16:50 |
| kenvandine | from /lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 | 16:50 |
| aruiz | backtrace? | 16:51 |
| kenvandine | i can try to get more info later, better bt with debug packages after lunch | 16:51 |
| kenvandine | aruiz, want the backtrace i have now without the debug packages? | 16:51 |
| aruiz | kenvandine, my stuff has the debug information | 16:51 |
| kenvandine | aruiz, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/568815/ | 16:52 |
| kenvandine | it should be stripped in the package | 16:52 |
| kenvandine | so probably not :) | 16:52 |
| kenvandine | i gotta run to lunch though, bbiab | 16:52 |
| aruiz | uh wow | 16:52 |
| aruiz | it happens on dbusmenu_server_set_root | 16:52 |
| kenvandine | tedg's fault | 16:53 |
| kenvandine | :-D | 16:53 |
| * kenvandine hides | 16:53 | |
| kenvandine | ok, i am really outta here now | 16:53 |
| kenvandine | bbiab | 16:53 |
| aruiz | bye | 16:53 |
| aruiz | I guess I'll need to setup a 64 bit host | 16:53 |
| aruiz | damn :) | 16:53 |
| cando_ | MacSlow, yes i've 228...https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/InstallationGuideFromSource but i install unity in /usr/local not /opt/unity...maybe this is the problem? | 16:54 |
| MacSlow | cando_, hm... where does your $PKG_CONFIG_PATH point to? | 16:58 |
| MacSlow | cando_, if not set it'll try to grab from /usr/lib/pkgconfig | 16:58 |
| MacSlow | cando_, if you install it "locally" you can use http://paste.ubuntu.com/568818 to temporarily set your env-vars accordingly | 17:01 |
| MacSlow | cando_, I use that all the time because during development I don't want to do any "sudo make install"s | 17:01 |
| MacSlow | cando_, if I mess up I can easily clean up with out blowing up system-wide installed stuff | 17:02 |
| aruiz | czajkowski, that was fast | 17:17 |
| aruiz | :-) | 17:17 |
| czajkowski | aruiz: I do read your blog | 17:17 |
| aruiz | heh | 17:17 |
| czajkowski | aruiz: and for the most part you do make sense | 17:18 |
| aruiz | czajkowski, :-) | 17:18 |
| jcastro | heh | 17:18 |
| jcastro | aruiz: are you on 2d or 10.10 in that screenshot? | 17:18 |
| aruiz | no, 2D on 11.04 | 17:19 |
| aruiz | jcastro, blame nvidia | 17:19 |
| jcastro | heh | 17:19 |
| czajkowski | nvidia has a lot to answer for ! | 17:19 |
| aruiz | :-) | 17:19 |
| aruiz | and AMD too | 17:19 |
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| and471 | ronoc, hey, don't know if you remember me but I got libindicate working with vala now | 17:24 |
| and471 | ronoc, (I was having trouble with the vapi files) | 17:24 |
| and471 | ronoc, anyway I can now get soundmenu support | 17:24 |
| ronoc | and471, ah very good | 17:25 |
| ronoc | and471, working okay ? | 17:25 |
| and471 | ronoc, nearly | 17:25 |
| and471 | one issue so far | 17:25 |
| and471 | ronoc, the soundmenu play/pause button doesn't change to the pause icon, when a track is playing | 17:25 |
| and471 | ronoc, can you remember which property this is? | 17:26 |
| cando_ | MacSlow, smspillaz , ok fixed...i made some mistakes with local/package install | 17:26 |
| cando_ | thanks for your help | 17:26 |
| ronoc | and471, the playbackstatus in the metadata hash property on the player interface | 17:26 |
| and471 | ronoc, so http://www.mpris.org/2.1/spec/Player_Node.html#Enum:Playback_Status ? | 17:28 |
| and471 | ronoc, hmm, that is strange, mine seems to be working (it has the same as banshee) | 17:30 |
| and471 | ronoc, maybe it is the dbus propertieschanged signal? | 17:30 |
| and471 | I may need to emit that manually.. | 17:30 |
| and471 | I will look at xnoise to see if they do anything special | 17:30 |
| and471 | bbiab | 17:30 |
| nmarques | kenvandine, ping... E: xchat-indicator 64bit-portability-issue indicator.c:173 - is it worth to submit a patch to fix it ? | 17:32 |
| ronoc | and471, is the property-changed signal being sent ? | 17:33 |
| ronoc | Everybody don't do a Natty upgrade at the mo, there is a pending libc issue ... | 17:37 |
| ronoc | and471, watch for the signal with dbus-monitor | 17:37 |
| ronoc | quick way of knowing if its going out of not | 17:37 |
| ronoc | or not even | 17:38 |
| and471 | ronoc, thanks for that, I can now see it isn't being sent out | 17:45 |
| ronoc | kenvandine, is it okay to leave out the a11y stuff until I get to talk to Luke on Monday morning | 17:48 |
| ronoc | kenvandine, I have a question or two about the merge | 17:48 |
| and471 | ronoc, ah it seems I have to do a connection.emit_signal(... | 17:50 |
| ronoc | and471, aha haven't wrote a server in vala yet ... | 17:50 |
| bcurtiswx | kenvandine, is gwibber supposed to allow right click on links in feeds? | 18:01 |
| lamlex | are we still waiting on nvidia drivers? | 18:04 |
| kenvandine | bcurtiswx, no | 18:10 |
| kenvandine | ronoc, sure | 18:10 |
| bcurtiswx | kenvandine, k thx | 18:10 |
| ronoc | kenvandine, will release again early week if needed | 18:11 |
| kenvandine | sure | 18:11 |
| bcurtiswx | whats the point of the unity fade-in ? it's kind of annoying | 18:12 |
| ronoc | kenvandine, -> https://launchpad.net/indicator-sound/third/0.6.0 | 18:15 |
| danyR | bcurtiswx: I've the same question. I can't really understand what's the interaction here, or what's it should be doing. either way, it isn't consistent. sometime works, other times just locks my launcher (it doesn't autohide) _S | 18:15 |
| kenvandine | thx | 18:15 |
| danyR | confused. | 18:15 |
| ronoc | np's | 18:15 |
| ronoc | kenvandine, let me know how it goes, will stay logged in | 18:16 |
| kenvandine | ok | 18:16 |
| lamlex | DBO: talk about the launcher fade in :P | 18:16 |
| ronoc | kenvandine, you will need to test with skype | 18:16 |
| ronoc | kenvandine, i need to patch mumble next week | 18:16 |
| DBO | lamlex, what about it? | 18:16 |
| lamlex | bcurtiswx: whats the point of the unity fade-in ? it's kind of annoying | 18:17 |
| DBO | lamlex, I agree | 18:17 |
| DBO | dont ask me | 18:17 |
| DBO | he needs to poke John Lea | 18:17 |
| lamlex | that was why I said :P | 18:17 |
| lamlex | not my clever use of emoticons | 18:17 |
| lamlex | note | 18:17 |
| * bcurtiswx wonders who John Lea is | 18:18 | |
| DBO | bcurtiswx, the designer responsible for this abomination of an autohide behavior | 18:18 |
| * bcurtiswx will hold you to your word "abomination" :P | 18:18 | |
| vish | hmm i wonder why lamalex lost an "a" ;p | 18:19 |
| bcurtiswx | whats his nick? | 18:19 |
| danyR | is there already any app supporting emblems, progress trough icon in the archive? would like to try it out :) | 18:20 |
| bcurtiswx | progress through icon in a launcher? | 18:20 |
| om26er | danyR, kenvandine worked for xchat/-gnome support to show pending messages count | 18:21 |
| bcurtiswx | danyR, he also added the progress bar to the empathy launcher on file transfers | 18:21 |
| kenvandine | yup | 18:21 |
| danyR | kenvandine: already released? | 18:22 |
| bcurtiswx | kenvandine is a programming machINE | 18:22 |
| kenvandine | danyR, yeah, in natty already | 18:22 |
| * danyR goes and installs xchat-gnome, auto sends file to itself | 18:22 | |
| kenvandine | and i've done evolution as well | 18:22 |
| kenvandine | but it isn't working for some reason | 18:22 |
| danyR | *himself | 18:23 |
| kenvandine | danyR,you need xchat-gnome-indicator as well | 18:23 |
| kenvandine | ronoc, are the 3 bugs listed on the 0.6.0 release page fixed in this release? | 18:23 |
| kenvandine | 2 of them are still marked as in progress | 18:23 |
| kenvandine | nmarques, patches welcome :) | 18:25 |
| danyR | sending a file to myself is too fast for me to be able to see the progress. dig the new notifications, though | 18:30 |
| kenvandine | :) | 18:33 |
| kenvandine | danyR, use a bigger file :) | 18:33 |
| kenvandine | i used isos for testing | 18:33 |
| kenvandine | ronoc, that voip stuff in the sound menu is sweet! | 18:35 |
| danyR_ | ups, compiz crashed. any idea on how to get my display number from a VT (for compiz --replace) | 18:37 |
| kenvandine | DISPLAY=:0.0 compiz --replace | 18:37 |
| om26er | i read in a bug report 'super' key will open dash, but atm it shows the launcher is that suppose to change? | 18:38 |
| danyR_ | kenvandine: I tried something similar, but it isnt working. my X is running on VT 8 | 18:38 |
| ubuntu__ | so, could I get a ping? | 18:46 |
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| ronoc | kenvandine, first question yup, | 18:56 |
| bcurtiswx | voip in sound menu? | 19:01 |
| bcurtiswx | sound preferences doesn't work for me | 19:02 |
| ronoc | kenvandine, oh | 19:03 |
| ronoc | kenvandine, sorry bcurtiswx really ? | 19:03 |
| ronoc | bcurtiswx, which the menu item doesn't bring up the g-v-c | 19:04 |
| bcurtiswx | yeah the sound icon, going to sound preferences does nothing, whats the terminal command to bring that window up.. could be an issue i can fix | 19:05 |
| bcurtiswx | ronoc, ^^ | 19:05 |
| ronoc | bcurtiswx, gnome-volume-control | 19:05 |
| ronoc | weird | 19:05 |
| bcurtiswx | found the problem | 19:08 |
| bcurtiswx | had a gnome3 package still installed | 19:08 |
| bcurtiswx | gnome-media | 19:08 |
| bcurtiswx | got that fixed | 19:08 |
| nmarques | tedg, LP#721491 | 20:21 |
| jcastro | If you're on natty right now please don't upgrade | 20:29 |
| jcastro | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eglibc/+bug/721469 | 20:29 |
| jcastro | FYI | 20:29 |
| spikeb | thanks for the info | 20:29 |
| rr0hit | Is it OK if I mark bug 721447 as bitesize bug ? | 20:54 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 721447 in Unity "Unable to scroll in Applications Place using mouse wheel" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/721447 | 20:54 |
| tareth | DBO, I have something for you! | 21:36 |
| tareth | DBO, https://code.launchpad.net/~mrasmus/unity/launcher-action-state-work/+merge/50398 | 21:39 |
| DBO | ooooooooooo | 21:40 |
| DBO | tareth, you got me a pony! | 21:40 |
| DBO | just what I always wanted | 21:40 |
| tareth | It's a pretty unusual pony though | 21:41 |
| DBO | does it do one trick? | 21:41 |
| tareth | Yes. But I'll let that be a surprise... :) | 21:42 |
| DBO | will review shortly | 21:43 |
| tareth | Okay! | 21:43 |
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