| ScottK | apachelogger: If I'm doing <double> to <qreal> changes to fix armel FTBFS, basically if it builds, it's fixed, right? | 01:10 |
|---|---|---|
| apachelogger | ScottK: yes | 01:13 |
| ScottK | OK. | 01:13 |
| ScottK | Cool. | 01:13 |
| === tarun is now known as c2tarun | ||
| ecinx | Hello, I need help instaling an application i've spent over 9 hours tyring to install . | 03:56 |
| ecinx | http://pastebin.com/1Uz4tQEY | 03:56 |
| ecinx | altera_installer_gui: cannot connect to X server :0 | 03:56 |
| tsimpson | ecinx: you don't use sudo with GUI apps, use kdesudo | 04:07 |
| ecinx | oh | 04:08 |
| ecinx | let me try that | 04:08 |
| ecinx | does that look right? | 04:09 |
| ecinx | kdesudo sh ./10.1sp1_quartus_free_linuxx.sh | 04:09 |
| tsimpson | yeah | 04:10 |
| ecinx | it's starting, in a window with an X on the top left, lookes good | 04:12 |
| ecinx | thanks tsimpson , a screen came up | 04:15 |
| ecinx | but the destination directory says ' /root/altera/10.1 is that good? | 04:16 |
| ecinx | the ' /root/ ' part? | 04:16 |
| tsimpson | depends what it's doing and what you want it to do | 04:16 |
| tsimpson | /root is root's home | 04:16 |
| tsimpson | I'd guess you don't need to be root to launch whatever it is, | 04:17 |
| ecinx | i don't know if that sounds right though.. I'm new in linux, but I want to be able to work with the program using my username | 04:17 |
| tsimpson | so just run the script normally | 04:17 |
| ecinx | okay | 04:17 |
| ecinx | on secon thought space req is 5.6g space available is 8.3g | 04:18 |
| ecinx | my home has about 40g+ free i would rather instal it there | 04:19 |
| ScottK | Riddell, apachelogger: I think I fixed the sip problem in bindings, but then http://paste.ubuntu.com/568591/ happened. | 04:29 |
| ScottK | I'm pushing to bzr and going to bed, so please have a look. | 04:29 |
| ecinx | it's installing i installed it into /home/apps/altera apps being a newly created folder since /home/ has over 50gb free while / has only 8gb free and the install is 6gb | 04:36 |
| tsimpson | ScottK: line 3886 | 04:38 |
| ScottK | tsimpson: My 3886 says "In file included from /usr/include/python2.7/Python.h:8:0," | 04:44 |
| ScottK | ? | 04:44 |
| tsimpson | yeah, I didn't mean that line, then I lost the line I did mean | 04:44 |
| tsimpson | lines 5223 & 5224 | 04:45 |
| tsimpson | make[3]: *** [CMakeFiles/python_module_PyKDE4_kdeui.dir/sip/kdeui/sipkdeuipart3.o] Error 1 | 04:45 |
| tsimpson | make[3]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs.... | 04:45 |
| tsimpson | it's much easier to see those when you don't use -j with make | 04:46 |
| vorian | nixternal ping-a-ling | 04:46 |
| ScottK | Yesh. | 04:47 |
| ScottK | tsimpson: Thanks. | 04:47 |
| tsimpson | no problem :) | 04:47 |
| ScottK | I guess that didn't work on fixing sip. | 04:47 |
| ScottK | Hard to believe it went on for another 11,000 lines. | 04:47 |
| ScottK | Thanks. | 04:48 |
| ScottK | Oh, said that already. | 04:48 |
| ScottK | Another sign I should be going to sleep. | 04:48 |
| ScottK | Good night. | 04:48 |
| ecinx | I've successfuly installed it, It ran after the installation finish but after i closed it i don't know how to open it again. I ran quartus and alt f2 and typed 'quartus' in the terminal and it didn't run | 04:52 |
| tsimpson | ecinx: the system doesn't know where to find it, you need to give the full path | 04:54 |
| tsimpson | or edit the applications menu by right-clicking the launcher icon and choosing "Menu Editor", then you can create a link in there | 04:55 |
| ecinx | hmm nice tip | 04:56 |
| ecinx | but i dont even know where the app is | 04:56 |
| ecinx | the directory is full of stuff and folders | 04:57 |
| ecinx | i think i found it, wiht google | 04:58 |
| === SolidLiq is now known as solid_liq | ||
| nixternal | vorian: pong | 05:36 |
| vorian | nixternal: i have ubuntu politics | 05:36 |
| vorian | hate* | 05:36 |
| vorian | HATE! | 05:37 |
| maco | you are who you are because of nobody else? :P | 05:37 |
| nixternal | hahaha | 05:37 |
| nixternal | maco: that was a good one | 05:37 |
| * nixternal jots that one down | 05:37 | |
| vorian | when did we start censoring? | 05:37 |
| vorian | they pulled my damn feed off the planet | 05:38 |
| nixternal | vorian: that's why I chilled from the politics side. i am going to do the me side and that's it. i want to start contributing again, but differently than before. i let myself get way to immersed in the political side and it just wore me out | 05:38 |
| vorian | and the one CC member that is awake will not respond to me | 05:38 |
| vorian | nixternal: i can understand that | 05:39 |
| nixternal | i wouldn't expect them to until after all of them have had time to review | 05:39 |
| vorian | fuck the planet | 05:39 |
| nixternal | i noticed like 3 changes to your blog in lp:~planet-ubuntu in the past 24 hours | 05:39 |
| maco | oi oi, language, mate! | 05:39 |
| vorian | It's mostly wanna be's anymore (on the planet) | 05:40 |
| vorian | and sorry maco | 05:40 |
| nixternal | i have to agree that the latest post doesn't belong on the planet. that's why i split my posts now | 05:40 |
| nixternal | though i haven't yet for ubuntu, because i don't want to tag everything i think would be good for the planet with ubuntu | 05:40 |
| maco | vorian: please learn to spell "poseur" | 05:41 |
| nixternal | kde is different, because i only have my kde tags posted there. they don't want to read about my thunderbird ftw post or ubuntu this or that | 05:41 |
| nixternal | it pisses the arch linux turds off | 05:41 |
| vorian | Well, it was aimed at matthew. he's such a tool | 05:41 |
| maco | i just looked at your twitter and saw you calling matthew a manequin over and over | 05:41 |
| vorian | maco: my twitter? | 05:41 |
| maco | yes where you linked to your blog | 05:41 |
| nixternal | maco: if you are a skater or have been a skater, it is poser and will always be poser, because they don't believe in adding the 'u' to stuff | 05:41 |
| maco | nixternal: i just assumed that was punk kids being crappy spellers | 05:42 |
| vorian | ah | 05:42 |
| vorian | whoops | 05:42 |
| maco | (and i don't mean that in the fire-engine-red or electric-blue hair sense :P) | 05:42 |
| valorie | there is a diff between "posers" and "poseurs" | 05:42 |
| nixternal | hahaha | 05:43 |
| vorian | haha | 05:43 |
| vorian | this is why i <3 kubuntu | 05:43 |
| nixternal | yeah, posers are people who do 3d rendering | 05:43 |
| valorie | rofl | 05:43 |
| nixternal | unless of course you are a sk8r | 05:43 |
| vorian | geeze, mike is not responding at all to my /queries | 05:44 |
| maco | nixternal: i used to have fire-engine-red hair | 05:45 |
| nixternal | i can't picture you with that | 05:46 |
| nixternal | time to play some golf i think. i have messed with .htaccess until i am blue in the face tonight | 05:46 |
| vorian | nixternal: aren't you on the CC now? | 05:47 |
| maco | vorian: he quit | 05:48 |
| vorian | hrm | 05:48 |
| maco | i believe persia was his replacement | 05:48 |
| vorian | maco: just for the fun of it, will you see if mike responds to you? | 05:48 |
| maco | mike who? | 05:48 |
| vorian | ah, persia | 05:48 |
| vorian | mike == technoviking | 05:49 |
| vorian | i think he's just avoiding answering any questions | 05:49 |
| maco | oh that mike | 05:49 |
| maco | no answer | 05:50 |
| vorian | Riddell: what every happens - please don't kick me out of kubuntu-members | 05:50 |
| vorian | thanks for trying maco | 05:50 |
| ecinx | anyone knows how to fix the way the fonts look on maverick 10.10 | 05:57 |
| ecinx | i think i fixed it, i hope | 06:01 |
| === hunger_ is now known as hunger | ||
| apachelogger | hm | 11:17 |
| apachelogger | ulysses++ | 11:18 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: what's ulysses done? | 11:21 |
| apachelogger | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I80pc9jZ_t8 | 11:21 |
| apachelogger | Riddell, ScottK: implicit thumb flag in phonon's rules can be dropped I presume? | 11:35 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: yes | 11:35 |
| Tm_T | ScottK: ppc images in need of testing this weekend? | 11:36 |
| apachelogger | if only it were in bzr ^^ | 11:36 |
| * apachelogger hugs Tm_T | 11:54 | |
| === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan | ||
| ScottK | Tm_T: No. Not yet. | 12:47 |
| === apachelogger changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | Lots to do https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | alpha 3 bugs http://goo.gl/yGhJd | 10.04.2 testing http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ | ||
| Tm_T | ScottK: ok thanks (: | 12:57 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: will do ... at conf.kde.in along with Riddell and some other minions k? | 13:02 |
| === ScottK changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | Lots to do https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | alpha 3 bugs http://goo.gl/yGhJd | ||
| ScottK | 10.04.2 is done. | 13:02 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: do what? | 13:02 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: the app | 13:02 |
| apachelogger | k | 13:02 |
| Riddell | ScottK: see #kubuntu for lucid->maverick upgrade problem, we need to get an updated kdepim into maverick | 13:03 |
| shadeslayer | schedule app | 13:03 |
| apachelogger | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m44PvFs074U | 13:03 |
| ScottK | Riddell: OK, but I've got some other stuff I need to get done first. | 13:04 |
| c2tarun | shadeslayer: hey i'll not be able to come to conf.kde.in :( college internals. will there be any video log uploaded on internet? | 13:19 |
| shadeslayer | idk | 13:24 |
| shadeslayer | c2tarun: dude, get internals postponed? | 13:24 |
| c2tarun | shadeslayer: its exams mate. :( if i'll not give that exam i'll loose my credits and hence my agregate will be affected :( | 13:31 |
| shadeslayer | c2tarun: i'm not saying don't give them, they're internals right? you can request the college to take them seprately for you at a later date :) | 13:32 |
| shadeslayer | any how, sorry to hear that it's not working out for you :( | 13:32 |
| c2tarun | shadeslayer: i'll try ;/ | 13:32 |
| shadeslayer | :) | 13:32 |
| apachelogger | <-- kernel build master | 13:33 |
| shadeslayer | aaaaannnnddd ... they *finally* released GTK3 | 13:34 |
| apachelogger | like they actually changed anything | 13:34 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: bumped so version and added " Hey we released GTK3 after a bazillion years " to the changelog | 13:35 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Can you get whoever it is in #kubuntu to file a bug so we have something to hang the SRU verification on. | 13:35 |
| Riddell | ScottK: that's not "whoever" that's dfaure, the more elite KDE coder ever! | 13:37 |
| ScottK | Riddell: OK. Whoever files it, we'll need a bug. | 13:38 |
| Riddell | ScottK: how to file the bug such that it'll be found again? | 13:38 |
| ScottK | Give me the bug number and I'll remember it. | 13:38 |
| shadeslayer | <Riddell> ScottK: that's not "whoever" that's dfaure, the more elite KDE coder ever! | 13:39 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: more like the most elite koder with a 1000 clones of himself | 13:39 |
| Riddell | ScottK: bug 721269 | 13:43 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 721269 in kdepim-runtime (Ubuntu Maverick) "newer kdepim in lucid than in maverick" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/721269 | 13:43 |
| ScottK | Thanks. | 13:43 |
| Riddell | http://www.kubuntu.org/news/10.04.2-release | 13:50 |
| === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse | ||
| apachelogger | this channel is very boring today :/ | 14:19 |
| apachelogger | kubotu_: order coffee | 14:19 |
| * kubotu_ slides coffee with milk down the bar to apachelogger. | 14:19 | |
| apachelogger | kubotu_: why do you have a suffix? | 14:19 |
| apachelogger | kubotu_: rename kubotu | 14:19 |
| apachelogger | kubotu_: what was that command again? | 14:19 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: possibly make it reconnect | 14:21 |
| apachelogger | well | 14:22 |
| apachelogger | there was a dedicated cmd for that -.- | 14:22 |
| apachelogger | kubotu_: save | 14:22 |
| kubotu_ | can do! | 14:22 |
| apachelogger | kubotu_: restart | 14:22 |
| shadeslayer | toldya | 14:23 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: some of us have code to write! :) | 14:25 |
| shadeslayer | and some of us have exams once again | 14:25 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: what should that scheduling app do btw? | 14:26 |
| apachelogger | show the schedule | 14:26 |
| apachelogger | ultimately hooked up with launchpad so that one can list sessions that one is subscribed to | 14:26 |
| apachelogger | (or subscribe to new ones for that matter) | 14:26 |
| shadeslayer | hmm.. | 14:27 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: so show the sessions on a calendar ( i wonder if kontact has kparts to do this ), API calls to subscribe etc | 14:28 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: I would avoid KDE api to keep it portable for e.g. maemo ;) | 14:29 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: ^^ can we do that during conf.kde.in ? | 14:29 |
| shadeslayer | hehe :) | 14:29 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: also reduces KDE Deps, so can be installed without taking up alot of disk space | 14:30 |
| apachelogger | http://willthompson.co.uk/sojourner/ | 14:30 |
| apachelogger | something like that | 14:30 |
| shadeslayer | *click* | 14:31 |
| apachelogger | just with actual user experience and not done in pyth0rn ;) | 14:31 |
| apachelogger | calendar view should help with that | 14:31 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: uh .. what's calendar view? | 14:32 |
| apachelogger | a view of a calendar :P | 14:32 |
| shadeslayer | i mean ... is it a Qt class?' | 14:32 |
| apachelogger | unlikely | 14:33 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: you should use QML :P | 14:33 |
| shadeslayer | http://doc.qt.nokia.com/4.7-snapshot/richtext-calendar.html | 14:33 |
| apachelogger | otherwise you have problems with deployment to android ;) | 14:33 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: yeah, i know, i'm sure we will have a code sprint wrt QML at conf.kde.in | 14:33 |
| shadeslayer | so i guess we can pitch that idea and come up with something | 14:34 |
| apachelogger | ewww | 14:34 |
| apachelogger | that example is | 14:34 |
| apachelogger | ... | 14:34 |
| apachelogger | brrr | 14:34 |
| apachelogger | in need of grantlee :D | 14:34 |
| shadeslayer | :D | 14:34 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: something is broken with our arm builders | 15:44 |
| apachelogger | they constantly do ccache stuff... | 15:44 |
| apachelogger | and with a kernel build that then results in the kernel wanting to build stuff with ccache it would seem | 15:44 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: OK. Please fix. | 15:47 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: if only I knew how :S | 15:49 |
| eMyller | 'lo again people | 15:51 |
| eMyller | anyone seen sheytan or ofirk these days? | 15:52 |
| eMyller | those guys are gone | 15:52 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: Does export CCACHE_DISABLE=1 help any? | 15:52 |
| apachelogger | might | 15:52 |
| * apachelogger wonders why it defaults to ccache to begin with | 15:52 | |
| apachelogger | oh | 15:53 |
| apachelogger | hoooray | 15:53 |
| apachelogger | bufferclass_ti.ko: | 15:53 |
| apachelogger | Running module version sanity check. | 15:53 |
| bambee | hi | 16:13 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: I think the old pbuilder is just crap | 17:04 |
| ScottK | Could be. | 17:05 |
| rbelem | Riddell, ping | 17:17 |
| Riddell | hi rbelem | 17:26 |
| rbelem | Riddell, i updated the patch http://reviewboard.kde.org/r/6308/ | 17:27 |
| rbelem | Riddell, when samba is not installed it shows a message and a buttom in the place of the addshare form | 17:28 |
| apachelogger_ | http://reviewboard.kde.org/r/6308/s/612/ I might note that the dropdown looks funny | 17:28 |
| rbelem | Riddell, but kpackagekit is not installing the package | 17:29 |
| rbelem | apachelogger_, :-D | 17:29 |
| rbelem | Riddell, i call it but it is not working | 17:29 |
| rbelem | Riddell, do you have a clue? | 17:29 |
| rbelem | apachelogger_, but is it looking nice? | 17:30 |
| apachelogger_ | no, it looks funny | 17:31 |
| rbelem | apachelogger_, hum... funny means that i should replace the dropdown? | 17:31 |
| Riddell | the dropdown looks fine to me | 17:32 |
| apachelogger_ | well | 17:32 |
| apachelogger_ | it is not so much the dropdown as the thing as a whole | 17:33 |
| Riddell | rbelem: "private Q_SLOTS:" what's Q_SLOTS? | 17:33 |
| apachelogger_ | rbelem: it should look like the local permissions tab I suppose | 17:33 |
| apachelogger_ | also using same terminology for that matter | 17:34 |
| rbelem | Riddell, afiestas asked me to do that | 17:34 |
| apachelogger_ | Riddell: the 3rdparty-safe kind of slots | 17:34 |
| apachelogger_ | Q_SLOTS == slots, except that former can be used in a context where another library wants to use the slots keyword | 17:34 |
| apachelogger_ | therefore libraries should always use Q_SLOTS and Q_SIGNALS | 17:35 |
| Riddell | pesky other libraries stealing Qt keywords | 17:35 |
| === apachelogger_ is now known as apachelogger | ||
| * rbelem checking the permissions tab | 17:35 | |
| rbelem | apachelogger, hum... there is a advance permission dialog | 17:36 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, that looks nice | 17:36 |
| apachelogger | oh gawd | 17:36 |
| apachelogger | no | 17:36 |
| apachelogger | rbelem: not by default | 17:37 |
| apachelogger | that makes my head spin and I am not even a regular user :P | 17:37 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, hahaha | 17:37 |
| apachelogger | rbelem: I would go for exactly the same as with the access permission default stuff ... i.e. dropdowns with 3 entries | 17:38 |
| apachelogger | rbelem: possibly even restrict yourself to the standard unix categories owner/group/world | 17:39 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, so it would be better to replace the words Deny, Full control and Read Only? | 17:39 |
| apachelogger | then have an advanced button | 17:39 |
| apachelogger | where you can give permission on user base and whatnot | 17:39 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, hum... | 17:39 |
| apachelogger | having by default a per-user setup will give headaches on a shared system with >1k users | 17:40 |
| apachelogger | loading all those settings and storing them will kill the dialog very much and make it unusable | 17:40 |
| * apachelogger wonders whatever happened to the ACL permission ui in KDE | 17:41 | |
| apachelogger | or do we not build with ACL support anymore? | 17:42 |
| apachelogger | ah | 17:42 |
| apachelogger | nvm | 17:42 |
| apachelogger | one needs to mount the partitions with ACL enabled | 17:42 |
| * apachelogger forgot about that detail ^^ | 17:42 | |
| * rbelem is thinking how the ui would look | 17:43 | |
| apachelogger | rbelem: if you enable acl for a partiton and remount you should get yet another dialog option for the ACL | 17:43 |
| apachelogger | that allows per-user permissions IIRC | 17:43 |
| apachelogger | so you might want to clone that ui for the advanced thingy | 17:43 |
| * apachelogger thinks that the local file permissions should simply be made more abstract and reused by the share tab ;) | 17:44 | |
| apachelogger | anyhow | 17:44 |
| apachelogger | need to pack and leave for train | 17:44 |
| rbelem | thx apachelogger :-) | 17:45 |
| rbelem | Riddell, can we go for now with the current ui? :-D | 17:45 |
| Riddell | rbelem: yes I think we should | 17:46 |
| Riddell | just compiling it now to check the packagekit stuff | 17:46 |
| rbelem | sweet :-D | 17:46 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Would you please add a test case to bug 721269 | 17:59 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 721269 in kdepim-runtime (Ubuntu Maverick) "newer kdepim in lucid than in maverick" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/721269 | 17:59 |
| Riddell | pesky other libraries stealing Qt keywordsmethod call sender=:1.2549 -> dest=org.kde.KPackageKitSmartIcon serial=145 path=/org/freedesktop/PackageKit; interface=org.freedesktop.PackageKit.Modify; member=InstallPackageNames string "No such method 'InstallPackageNames' in interface 'org.freedesktop.PackageKit.Modify' at object path '/org/freedesktop/PackageKit' (signature 'iasas')" | 18:06 |
| Riddell | hmm | 18:06 |
| Riddell | rbelem: it's on the sessionBus not the systemBug | 18:06 |
| Riddell | rbelem: it's on the sessionBus not the systemBus | 18:06 |
| Riddell | but there's still something wrong with the method arguments | 18:06 |
| rbelem | Riddell, :-( | 18:07 |
| rbelem | Riddell, have you seen danti? | 18:07 |
| Riddell | he's moving country I believe | 18:09 |
| ximion | Riddell: yes, he is... very sad for Apper, cause the development slowed down ;) | 18:11 |
| rbelem | Riddell, wow! where is he going? | 18:11 |
| Riddell | I don't know | 18:12 |
| ScottK | Odd that both he and JonTheEchnida vanished at the same time. | 18:13 |
| ScottK | Maybe they met to have a packagement shootout and canceled each other out? | 18:13 |
| rbelem | brb | 18:17 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: What is this NODM stuff? | 18:20 |
| Quintasan | on Todo? | 18:20 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: it's a login manager for kubuntu mobile | 18:20 |
| Quintasan | Oh | 18:20 |
| Riddell | it logs you in without and dialogue or whatever | 18:20 |
| Riddell | it should go onto the mobile images once launchpad merge the task change | 18:21 |
| Riddell | rbelem: meh, i can't work out | 18:38 |
| Riddell | it's something to do with the qstringlist being right | 18:39 |
| Riddell | QStringList interaction that's not right according to | 18:39 |
| Riddell | qdbus org.kde.KPackageKitSmartIcon /org/freedesktop/PackageKit | 18:39 |
| Riddell | it should be a list | 18:39 |
| Riddell | but even then it doesn't work | 18:39 |
| Riddell | patch is good to ship once that's sorted | 18:39 |
| Riddell | ask on #kde-devel I guess, they should know | 18:39 |
| * Riddell out for a bit | 18:39 | |
| debfx | shadeslayer: due to your dcmtk upload some packages are uninstallable: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/NBS/libdcmtk1 | 18:41 |
| debfx | a rebuild should fix them | 18:42 |
| ScottK | Ohhhh. I've seen this exact problem: http://svn.reviewboard.kde.org/r/6513/ | 18:52 |
| bambee | I missed something of "remember authorization" in polkit-kde-agent does not work ? | 18:53 |
| bambee | s/of/or/ | 18:53 |
| kubotu | bambee meant: "I missed something or "remember authorization" in polkit-kde-agent does not work ?" | 18:53 |
| bambee | kubotu: you won a cookie | 18:53 |
| Quintasan | someone should really turn off this damn feature | 18:54 |
| Quintasan | kubotu: order cookies for kubotu | 18:54 |
| * kubotu slides a whole bunch of world's finest cookies down the bar to kubotu. | 18:54 | |
| yofel | apachelogger: can you get kubotu back in #project-neon please? | 19:11 |
| Daskreech | What's the var for ~/.kde ? | 19:28 |
| yofel | Daskreech: KDEHOME I think, let me check | 19:32 |
| Daskreech | Thansk | 19:32 |
| Daskreech | thanks | 19:32 |
| bambee | Daskreech: KDEHOME | 19:32 |
| bambee | http://techbase.kde.org/KDE_System_Administration/Environment_Variables#KDEHOME | 19:32 |
| yofel | xep, KDEHOME | 19:32 |
| Daskreech | Hmm | 19:33 |
| Daskreech | funky | 19:33 |
| bambee | in case of doubt techbase is your friend ;) | 19:33 |
| JontheEchidna | Shytlman started to do something like this at UDS-M in Belgium: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Titlebar+menu?content=138804 | 19:33 |
| JontheEchidna | granted, he was actually trying to put the menu *in* the title bar, and not as a hover thing | 19:34 |
| ScottK | Heya JontheEchidna. | 19:35 |
| JontheEchidna | hi | 19:35 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: Did I ever discuss the backports-not-automatic spec and it's implications for application install/update managers | 19:36 |
| JontheEchidna | If you did, I don't recall | 19:37 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: OK. Short version is that one will no longer automatically upgrade to a backports version. One will have to ask for it. | 19:39 |
| ScottK | So there's a need to distinguish backports update candidates from regular updates for the user. | 19:39 |
| JontheEchidna | is this change being made at the APT level? (Any tech spec sheet?) | 19:39 |
| ScottK | Yes. | 19:39 |
| ScottK | It's in Natty now. | 19:39 |
| ScottK | Let me find the spec. | 19:40 |
| Daskreech | bambee: good point | 19:40 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-foundations-n-backports-notautomatic | 19:42 |
| bambee | Daskreech: techbase and api.kde.org both rock :D | 19:43 |
| yofel | ScottK: how do you see those from an apt-get point of view now? pinned? | 19:44 |
| ScottK | Riddell: pim and pim-runtime for Maverick uploaded. | 19:44 |
| ScottK | yofel: Yes. | 19:44 |
| yofel | ok | 19:44 |
| JontheEchidna | QApt/Muon already respect pins | 19:45 |
| ScottK | The big change is that apt has been fixed to correctly pull needed depdencies from the not automatic repository. | 19:45 |
| yofel | aaah, that's nice :) | 19:45 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: Yes. The real issue I think you might want to address is in Muon showing -updates and -backports differently to the user. | 19:46 |
| ScottK | It's possible a user could have updates to the same package in both and they should have some idea that -updates is fixes and -backports is new features with some incremental risk of regression. | 19:46 |
| JontheEchidna | If the package is pinned lower than the candidate version from the main repositories it will not be shown as upgradeable either | 19:48 |
| JontheEchidna | since in APT | 19:48 |
| JontheEchidna | 's eyes the pinning makes the NotAutomatic pocket packages not the candidate version | 19:48 |
| ScottK | This is where I don't really understand that details (you may want to talk to mvo). | 19:48 |
| ScottK | It's my understanding that both would be 'visible' fsvo visible. | 19:49 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah, I'll probably do that' | 19:49 |
| ScottK | He's got ideas on how to support it in Software Center. | 19:49 |
| JontheEchidna | If I understand the tech spec, the main issue is, as you said, to be able to show more experienced users that -backports updates are available if they want them | 19:50 |
| JontheEchidna | but currently Muon will respect the pinning and not offer the -backports packages for upgrades | 19:50 |
| JontheEchidna | so this is probably more of a new feature | 19:51 |
| ScottK | Yes. | 19:51 |
| ScottK | It'd be nice for users to be able to see the backports as a GHNS like option. | 19:51 |
| jjesse | deos | 19:51 |
| jjesse | doh | 19:51 |
| ScottK | Riddell: pim and pim-runtime for maverick uploaded. Waiting for your test case and ubuntu-sru to accept. | 19:52 |
| JontheEchidna | ScottK: I'll put that on the feature list for Muon 1.2. I plan on redoing the GUI of the updater app entirely, as its currently just a stripped down version of Muon. The GUI could be made much more updater-centric | 19:53 |
| JontheEchidna | Ihttp://i.imgur.com/HKT2y.png <- a bunch of that stuff would not be useful for the average person updating their system | 19:54 |
| JontheEchidna | http://i.imgur.com/HKT2y.png | 19:54 |
| yofel | ScottK: who needs to be subscribed to sync requests again? | 19:54 |
| ScottK | yofel: ubuntu-archvie after they are approved by an ubunth-dev. ubuntu-sponsors to get them approved. | 19:55 |
| yofel | thx | 19:55 |
| JontheEchidna | bbiab | 20:02 |
| jjesse | ok with today's daily on virtualbox i get pass the keyboard section of the install then the installer disappers | 20:05 |
| jjesse | also trying to report the bug fails as rekonq still crashes everytime i launch it on the live cd | 20:05 |
| jjesse | running today's daily amd 64 | 20:05 |
| ScottK | Currently there's an eglibc issue on amd64 that's making all kinds of things crash. | 20:11 |
| jjesse | ah | 20:15 |
| jjesse | ok i guess i will wait still | 20:15 |
| debfx | yay, another armel+sip build failure: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/64675210/buildlog_ubuntu-natty-armel.qgis_1.4.0%2B12730-5ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 22:21 |
| Quintasan | debfx: madness | 22:23 |
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| apachelogger | kubotu: config get irc.join_channels | 22:47 |
| kubotu | irc.join_channels: #kubuntu-devel, #kubuntu-bunker, #ubuntustudio-devel, #kubuntu-offtopic, #thecoolkids, #kubuntu-playtime | 22:47 |
| apachelogger | config add #project-neon to irc.join_channels | 22:47 |
| apachelogger | kubotu: config add #project-neon to irc.join_channels | 22:47 |
| kubotu | irc.join_channels: #kubuntu-devel, #kubuntu-bunker, #ubuntustudio-devel, #kubuntu-offtopic, #thecoolkids, #kubuntu-playtime, #project-neon | 22:47 |
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| ScottK | kubotu: roulette | 22:58 |
| yofel | apachelogger: thanks :) | 23:18 |
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| yofel | indeed | 23:21 |
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